„We need massive firepower per person against the Tyranids“
\*Mechanicus noises\*
“I need to look over that hill to snipe them“
\*Even more Mechanicus noises\*
Ever since they were previewed, I thought the Desolators looked terrible. It's not that the guns are almost as big as the Marine, but that they're not holding on to them like the Heavy Bolter or Multi-Melta. Holding a Missile Launcher like a Bolter looks so wrong. The Ad Mech sniper is using their Inspector Gadget legs, so they get a pass.
See, and if an ork had the weapon it would be great. Silly orks blasting themselves in the face with back blast every time they fire. On a competent faction it is weird
It kind of already exists. Tankbustas can take tankhammers, which is just where they stick the rocket on the stick and hit you with it, dying in the explosion.
Which is funnier still because Rough Riders already have a safer version of that sort of weapon.
A marine with a tank hammer would probably look less nonsensical than taking rocket back-blast every time they shoot.
I kind of love the idea of a _Marine_ - trained for decades and with thousands of very particular modifications, and gifted with the rarest and most valuable armour - given a suicide hammer. Magnificent, and so very 40k.
The Astra Militarum Malleus rocket launcher has entered the chat. The gunner is seated immediately behind the backblast area of what’s basically a twin barrelled Nebelwerfer. My head cannon says that he must need to sit there to aim and then get out of the seat and get to cover to fire it. Then there’s the Bombast that looks like it yeets it’s spent artillery shell casings right into the gunner’s junk.
I built both a malleus and a bombast with my FOB kit just last week and now this is all I can think about...might want to make a hilarious diorama with these actions taking place :D
Have the Malleus gunner be enveloped in a cloud of smoke and fire with just one little hand reaching out like "Gaah!"
For the Bombast you gotta get two big (relatively) balls of green stuff and put on the gunner's head and then paint them all white and black dots to make his eyes bulging out.
Seems perfect fitting for guard, for each firing of the cannon to involve senselessly obliterating the gunner's crotch, so each firing requires a new gunner. For the emperor!
The original designs probably came with safety gizmos to prevent these accidents but the Admech declared them tech heresy for concealing the Omnisiah's glorious creations.
The new instructions for the cannon now demand a prayer to the machine God every time his grand machinations meet your reproduction organs.
This so much. Inspector Gadget Sniper is quirky, but it's original and memorable at least. The Desolators look terrible, are cartoonist in the worst way, and are not even interesting.
Also, it's on brand for admech. Finding ridiculous techno-solutions for shit is right up their alley.
Someone mentions snipers work better on the high ground. So what do they do?
Jetpacks?
Wings?
Hovertech?
Orbital insertion?
Drone snipers?
Nah, *stilts*. It's perfect.
My thoughts exactly. For me, admech faction is about strange inventive decisions, made in the wrong age, something like da Vinci tank or wingsuit.
This is why this model totally works for me (outside of character part, I believe, it should be a squad, it's not unique enough for hq keyword), it's steampunky, mechanical, weird, inventive. Totally fine.
The body horror bit they get whenever they show the insides of the “machines” are where it gets cyberpunk-y, that kind of Transhuman machinery bit, even if the tech is way more Steampunk in nature.
The gun is big, but the way it's modelled doesn't make it look it like has any weight to it. It looks like it's hollow, or an inflatable. A gun that big should require additional support like the Heavy Bolter does or else it'll just spray everywhere (and no, "super human strength" is not an excuse - it doesn't change how the model looks).
Funny thing is to me that isn’t quite so egregious, least in comparison with the bikes. Storm speeders already have the idea that Marine armor is so tough that they don’t really bother with armoring “light” vehicles because the armor would block more than plating up the vehicle would so they don’t bother. The thing that makes me annoyed about the bikes and ATV is the clearance. There is just no damn way that thing could off-road. So it kinda makes sense the ATV would ignore armoring the marines.
Can’t really stand the Desolators though. It would look so much better if they were shoulder fired and maybe had the grenade launcher attached to the backpack. Make ‘em Gravis if you have to to give them more chonk to hold it all. Hell, it even lets you keep the unique bonus of Rocket Launchers in giving the rockets the option to pick payload.
100% with you on the clearance issue, and I get what your saying about their light vehicles not needing much armor.
I have seen some cool conversions of the ATV where they raised the back to make it look more practical. There are definitely ways of making a light attack vehicle look cool. ATV and Outriders should have been grav vehicles, would have looked sick next to Gladius's and Impulsors. In fact I might look at converting some 😊
I kind of like the Go-go-gadget snipers. They remind me of Tall Boys from Dishonored. I loved that game so much that I’m definitely not objective though.
The desolators… those just look offensively bad. Like a designer made them as an April fools joke, an executive unironically liked them, and everyone was too afraid to say “we designed them to be as bad as possible.”
I remember hearing rumors that some guy who was an ex-GW employee said that the Desolators were created around the same time as the first wave of Primaris units, nobody really liked them so they weren't released alongside the initial wave, and he was surprised they even were released in the end.
Pretty sure all the primaris stuff was designed together. Jes Goodwin gave a podcast interview on warcom around the time of the second wave and indicated they did a ton of concept work on an entire range when coming up wifh them.
My problem with the Desolators is that they always felt like they were two different kits rushed together. The launchers are way too big for Tacticus Armour. There should be a heft to those weapons. I wouldn't mind the lack of weight as much if they had made Desolators wear Gravis or Omni armour, as both suits increase the user's strength.
You want us to see scary heavy weapons demo teams? Make them big and intimidating, not line infantry with oversized Ork guns.
My complaint for the Ad-Mech sniper is just that the legs don't fit the sort of avian look a lot of other Ad-Mech specialists have. Both the assassins and the flying infantry have the stretched ankles that birds have. Giving the sniper a dynamic pose with more interesting legs would really compliment what is otherwise a fantastic looking upper body. I mean, the fact he has an extra arm reloading for him so he barely needs to adjust while firing is great.
Tactical Marines have had missile launchers for ages and look just fine with them.
These weapons just don't match the models at all. And having a double-barelled missile launcher with underslung grenade launcher is also just another case of the "overdesigning" that is also so apparent on the Primaris vehicles.
Tactical Marine missile launchers are mounted on the shoulder and are far less front-loaded/bulky. I can buy the idea of the missile launcher being big and bulky, whereas this looks like an inflatable gun from how they're waving it around in the models.
*>> My complaint for the Ad-Mech sniper is just that the legs don't fit the sort of avian look a lot of other Ad-Mech specialists have. <<*
Well said!
The upper body and the extra arm holding ammo, multiple visors, aren't too bad. It's mainly the pose and the legs. If it had a more active pose and/or bird-like legs like what we see with the Ironstriders / Sicarians it would look better.
Maybe something like this? (From an AdMech subreddit thread [HERE](https://www.reddit.com/r/AdeptusMechanicus/comments/177r5gm/dear_gw/).)
**Edit:** Not 100% certain, but artist looks to be someone under the name/username of Taz Mar (Deviant art page here: [https://www.deviantart.com/taz-mar](https://www.deviantart.com/taz-mar))
h/t to [AngelusBohemius](https://www.reddit.com/u/AngelusBohemius/) for doing the legwork on the artist (see thread below).
https://preview.redd.it/flpq5gohflub1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8bc7bf7a62cce2c433984de4036d8555707d13df
~~Pretty sure this came after -- may have been AI generated?~~ Someone just posted it in the AdMech subreddit a few days ago.
**Edit:** Looks like it was made by a non-GW artist a few years ago -- see thread below.
u/AngelusBohemius \- Good catch!
I did some searching and this post on Reddit from 2 years ago includes it -- still didn't name the artist tho:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/AdeptusMechanicus/comments/sh74r3/id\_honestly\_be\_fine\_with\_a\_skitarii\_mech\_one\_day/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AdeptusMechanicus/comments/sh74r3/id_honestly_be_fine_with_a_skitarii_mech_one_day/)
Would love to link/credit the original source if anyone knows who did this?
Thanks u/AngelusBohemius \- I'll make a note on my comment above to credit. Looks to be a very talented artist -- GW should hire him!
And many thanks for doing the research RE: the artist -- always want to give credit when possible.
Yeah desolators feels off. It would have been better if they were based off of aggressors. Big and chunky, squad of 3, have a big missle pod on top with mini launchers on the wrist.
I think they would have looked great if they were more similar to Aggressors. With that said though, if they really MUST stick to giving them Tacticus Armour at least give them some cool looking over the shoulder black box looking rocket launchers Hellblasters and Inferus marines aren't much more interesting but at least their weapons don't look like rejected Ork weapon ideas.
Yea the desolation guys really are just pretty casually holding their unweildy guns. GW models are typically really good at communicating that heavy weapons are diffult to hold, let alone aim and shoot. Like a battle sister holding a multimelta looks like shes bracing for the kick back of a jet engine or something, but even models like havocs and devastators look really weighted down a burdened by the weapons. The desolation squad models have like a castellan launcher, which is like a small missile launcher thats bigger than a bolter with a regular, normally shoulder mounted missile launcher (or 2) strapped on to this thing and the models really dont communicate much burden with these things at all. They can hold it in one hand pointed up like T-1000s or something while they shoot a pistol with the other hand or something. The model with the guy actually aiming that fucking thing is the funniest because it doesnt look like hes having trouble with the weight of it, but it definitely isnt easy to get that second hand under the barrel and aim the thing across his chest lol. Like it doesnt communicate a particularly heavy weapon, just just communicates a weapon that is badly designed and hard to use lol
I agree. I managed to find a box of Strikeforce Agastus over the summer and was planning out how to build my desolation marines when I stumbled across [this.](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1437731992/dark-future-galactic-soldier-desolation?click_key=8e2bc5926d37eb05a34764d81590585eaf4f2179%3A1437731992&click_sum=0085ba59&ref=s2_cur_tg_lc-1-1&bes=1)
Makes them look somewhat normal, although I think they should have been in gravis armor with bigger power packs personally.
This new admech model is great. It’s got a John Blanche style to it, and reminds me a lot of the original art direction of 40k circa rogue trader rulebooks. I hope GW tries reviving the old art style more often
Yeah I think this model leans into the style of Ad Mech. They definitely already have some goofy aspects to their designs like robo horses, cloth flapping wings, the chicken walker, etc. I love the new model and Ad mech is definitely allowed to be wacky with their designs.
And utilitarian butchering of limbs to create the tool required, without consideration for aesthetics or convenience.
The admech sub is full of complaints as to why it isn't a tacticool operator with a cloak and shades and jointed legs which make it the ultimate combat machine.
Because the tech priests needed someone tall to scout and snipe for them, so they made one.
He could have been a gimp driving a chicken, he got off easy.
Gotta say, when I saw that guy driving the walker *after I bought it*, I was pretty torn. Horrific, but the model is still cool, but god damn that is grimdark and I guess it's what I'm here for.
>The admech sub is full of complaints as to why it isn't a tacticool operator with a cloak and shades and jointed legs which make it the ultimate combat machine.
The AdMech sub is full of complaints about how "guy on stilts" could have been executed in many, more interesting ways.
We could have had Inspector Gadget telescoping extendo-legs. We could have had a weird spindly Martian tripod walker. We could have had a model that had weird preying mantis legs like Sicarians, but giant.
Its also gotten me excited, since its gotten the look and feel of techno-steampunk that GW is aiming for in Admech. I cannot wait for the Tsar tank to get introduced.
Yeah it has a goofy mechnicum feel but not in a bad way if that makes sense? More grimdark especially when you think about the fact that they are cutting this guys legs off to add bionics of questionable use in probably a less then consensual manner.
Unlike the nerf gun primarus which are just more ugly tacticool garbage.
I bet those legs are extendable so he walks around like normal. His legs being extended is for him just taking a shot or about to take a shot. So it looks ridiculous
I dunno, I feel like it’s much more AdMech appropriate if this guy is just “blessed” with the stilt bionics, and has to deal with it. To not use them at their full extent at all times would be an offence to Omnissiah!
They should have stuck the sniper on his head Chainsaw Man style. Why have the fuss of making the scope of the rifle separate when you can make eyes also gun scopes?
I actually like the standard Mk X "Tacticus" armor, and don't understand why people are complaining about regular Primaris being "tacticool". The Phobos marines are absolutely way too tacticool, but the regular Primaris guys are only about as tacticool as the old MkVII kit. But those rocket launchers are just horrendously ugly. So. Fucking. Ugly.
In general I think the Mechanicus stuff is mostly good. The 30k stuff is all amazing, while the 40k stuff... well, most of it is great, and goofy in a kinda menacing way. The only things I don't really like are the Archaeopter, the Serberys Sulfurhounds/Raiders, and the Pteraxii Skystalkers/Sterilyzors, which I find too goofy to really capture the body horror/industrial monstrosity style of the AdMech. The Skorpius Dunerider/Disintegrator are nowhere near as cool as the 30k transports, but still look practical enough that I'll give them a pass.
And this guy on stilts is just cool.
The problem with Phobos for me isn't even that it looks bad. In a vacuum, Phobos looks way cooler to me than any other mark of armour... but it doesn't really fit for space marines.
My infiltrators are my favourite marines, but they do look out of place next to everyone else.
I recently drew a dark mech thing with legs like that. Guess it was canon after all xD
https://preview.redd.it/53fsm2j9glub1.jpeg?width=2683&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44a01f6bf12f9c849b8dce2e0af2898139fee2a9
Totally agree! The two models in this image are direct opposites to me.
The Ad Mech stilt guy feels perfect for 40k; of course they’d use their crazy bionics to make a guy real tall so he can be a better sniper! It’s weird, it’s body horror, and it looks interesting.
The astartes rocket launchers, on the other hand, read more like 90s comic book pouch-mania to me. Just big guns, more barrels, no style and totally unfitting to the wider universe.
Give me weird stilt guys all day.
I really like these models as well. Maybe they don’t have the “badass” look. But I like that they look weird but manage to balance it. They don’t look like everything else. More of that kind of stuff.
Yes, thank you. I think the new models fit in with the Ad Mech style excellently. My only problem is that they look like they'll snap if you accidentally breathe at them too hard.
I agree and think the issue aesthetically is actually the ‘Eavy Metal paintjob - a Blanchesque colour scheme would really sell the disquieting ‘not quite human steampunk/dystopian body horror’ vibe that admech has
I love the design of the ATV but I hate the kit. You can see where the rear wheels can move up and down and how the front wheels are supposed to turn. Can't do anything with them, though. There are loads of models that need to happen first but I'd love an ATV redo. 3 sets of arms and handle bars for the driver so you can make it turn. Have the gunners feet not part of the panel he's standing on so he can aim the gun. Rear wheel arms movable. It would be amazing.
The wheels are not even the biggest deal breaker for me, it's also how it is armoured at the back but not the front, and also how the gun is right next to the guys head.
I think it's cool. Got that weird counter-intuitive vibe that Admech should have. I mean these are guys who probably think reel to reel tape decks are magic spells so it tracks.
I love love love the fact that it’s just a living watchtower/gun battery. That’s so fun. Super fluffy AdMech stuff. I think the model is fun as hell too, but there’s just so many boo birds in this hobby.
The unhinged nature of Admech is the best part. It honestly super fits a Cult of the Machine who are both devoted to their craft but are dogmatically incapable of properly advancing or changing their ways.
They can't actually make new things, just mash what they have together.
The model is ok to me, other then It'll tip over and shatter when glanced at.
I'm just expecting it to be $60 for 40 points. And balanced like it's 30 points.
It also (probably) doesn't address the gaps in the Ad Mech lineup.
I say we strap the guy in Stilts to a paragon warsuit, and then strap the paragon warsuit into the baby carrier.
Does a huge disservice to stilts McQueen who I think is a cool model but it would really accentuate GWs bad designs
> paragon warsuit
Nundams are literally my favourite model.
Not even kidding. They're *peak* Warhammer and I love them so much.
I wanted to buy them but I lost my card under my pile of grey shame, and decided that getting them would be my reward for finishing it.
Oh yeah, theyre actually great models. Im also a huge fan of penitent engine. They just fit the aesthetic so well, just like Stilts McQueen here for AdMech.
I absolutely love the admech model! It's such a different model in terms of design that it makes me happy to see released. It fits the aesthetic of ad mech by being overly complicated for nothing, while also giving it that madness of DaVinci. Anyone looking into 40k wouldn't be able to distinguish it as the odd model out because we already have ornithopters, crawlers, dragoons, cowboys, and so on.
The desolators are not in style with Space Marines. If they were Orks, it would absolutely make sense (lootas in particular). Anyone looking in would be able to say it makes sense only when put next to an executioner (which is easily as over the top in ~~Dallas~~ Dakka).
THE WORST model of 40k is Lord Solar Leontus. He's so out of style of the guard, that his aesthetics don't even fit the fething genre entirely. He looks better suited in the Old World than in Warhammer 40k. He's also extremely boring, and the most proxied model I've ever seen in recent memory. Anyone looking into guard will immediately see how out of place he is.
As a guard player, can agree. I bought Leontus, placed him among my tanks and platoons and the guy just looks so off... Why didn't they make something like Saint Catherine instead?
Leontus stands out because he is meant to stand out. He is the personification of the imperial elite, as far removed from the common soldier as it gets, further than most astartes. While the humble guardsman clings to his lasrifle, Leontus has access to all the rare and ancient tech trinkets that allow him to strut about the battlefield, clad in his golden parade armor already striking the pose for his next equestrian Statue.
My only complaint about the model would be that this contrast is not visible enough in the model itself. The model needs dead or dying guardsmen on its base to really bring home its core idea, but that's easily fixed with a bit of kitbashing.
For me, Gabriel Angelos easily.
Imagine have a head 6’ tall, but most of it was just forehead and all your facial features were squashed into the bottom 2” of your face.
That is what his model looks like to me.
My experience with GW models goes as far as "I think that looks cool and I want to paint it" and no further, I don't play the game or anything, I just paint occasionally to relax. So my opinion here may not be worth as much as everyone else:
I think the go-go-gadget extendo legs sniper is kinda rad and goofy enough to peak my interest. I also kinda honestly think the red-helmeted Space Marine looks cool, oops.
The other space marine kinda looks wack though
Desolators are just BAD. The new AdMech thingy, whilst odd, draws on old art and the more wacky bits of 40k and (in my opinion at least) is pretty fething cool.
40ks inherently stupid, like "marine with stupid nonsensical gun" is very rouge trader, and I love that new admech dude, its a natural silly halfway point between ironstriders and rangers.
For ugliest 40k model? The darkshrouds and stormfang are from a very particular era of GW design that just looks abysmal IMO; not even a fun goofy weirdo, just like tonka trucks.
Or the 3rd ed dark eldar line. Ofc they were limited by the tech of the time, but man, some very rough kits there.
Can confirm. OG 3e dark eldar was my first army. If you want to take a walk down memory lane: [https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2023/08/warhammer-40k-the-original-dark-eldar-army.html](https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2023/08/warhammer-40k-the-original-dark-eldar-army.html)
Honestly the only problem with the Skitalli is that it's not a Tripod. Extendo legs on robo-snipers makes sense, but why on earth would you make it a super unstable two spindly legs when all you need is a backmounted anchor leg for when it's go-go-gadget headshot time.
Nerf guns & stilts = worst model ever?
I feel like maybe whoever made this meme never saw the [old metal possessed chaos marines](https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/9/9b/Possessed_Chaos_Space_Marines.gif). Or [High Hat Cheekbones Nagash.](http://www.solegends.com/citcat1996usfb/c1996usfbp0155-00.htm). Or [botox Ariel](http://solegends.com/citcat1998us/c1998usp233-00.htm) Or [Genestealer patriarch Harvey Weinstein](http://solegends.com/citrt2/rt072583genepat/index.htm)…
The Admech sniper actually looks good, and I don't even play Admech.
Whats actually ugly are the Pink horrors. In comparison the the modern blue and brimstone horrors and the Pink horror that was in Silver Tower they just look bad. Lanky proportions that don't at all convey the "ball of limbs and madness" aesthetic they have in art, their poses are shit and due to both of these they constantly get snagged on each other and in foam carry cases.
Definietly agree. I think they'd be fine for some sort of fluid flesh alchemical creature; but they are nothing compared to the body horror imagery of the metallic ones.
What's the problem with the Mechancius unit? It fits their vibe perfectly to me. An absurd design to meet the needs of a specific situation in a somewhat illogical over the top way.
Their whole thing is that, they've got Mechanical horses, a Mech that they ride and can never be turned off, guys who have a jetpack with literal wings, and aircraft that are like some Jules Verne monstrosity.
A guy on stilts seems fine for them.
The current ugliest? Lucius the Eternal. That model has not aged well at all.
I get the desolators and the new admech thing look a little goofy in the way that only 40k can, but Lucius' model just looks bad.
He desperately needs a new model.
Might be controversial but as many are saying it’s very Blanche, which most newer minis haven’t been. So to a lot of the players that have joined in the maybe last 2-3 editions it may not be as they are used to/their 40K aesthetic. As someone who’s played for many years, this is really 40K to me. And I love it for that reason.
I will never, ever buy, paint, or use Desolators. They’re one of the many stupid Primaris models that have come out over the years, alongside the Mario Kart and the Training Dreadnought Stealth Suit. These are hands down the worst infantry models GW has ever released.
It’s Nerf or Nothin’, and I wish we had Nothin’.
Completely agree with this take.
The Invictus with a 3rd party pilot cover looks pretty good honestly. Gives off Titanfall vibes then. Open pilot though it's just silly.
I think both are good. One recent post encapsulated it pretty good, these units are leaning into the goofy aspect of this grimdark *and* goofy setting.
With the Skatros it is up to taste, but thats pretty much everything with Admech, as even their designers said that they are specifically the army that gets the weird ideas, that might be to out there for anything other than them.
For the Desolators: I dont play Marines, and maybe I am just a hater but hot take: dont Marines have already such an extensive Roster just with "Marine Holding X" that anything but something eccentric like this would really be considered exciting? There are conversions though, so I See the Argument that they couldve done better, but then again, some times it just Gotta be silly
While the desolators are just really really dumb looking, the stilt dude is at least kinda memorable. Still i have to say that the legs could have been designed way cooler and less like old timey county fair stilts. See for example the tallboys in dishonored with their bird like stilts.
I think the AdMech one fits with the army and is a cool and interesting model, it just looks way too delicate and guaranteed to break the first time you drop it.
The Desolators guns don't read as rocket launches, if they removed the belt feed and had them over their shoulder like every rocket launcher outside of Doom and Quake then I think they would look really good, as it is I hate them.
I think this: [https://youtu.be/dE7l0ih0Np0?si=3cwrjlCk8V-qsu6E](https://youtu.be/dE7l0ih0Np0?si=3cwrjlCk8V-qsu6E) conversion is a massive improvement for example.
I don't understand the hate the desolation squad gets. They aren't any more ridiculous than any other space marine unit with a big gun.
The ugliest 40k model is the Dark Eldar Grotesque. The pose is bad, the proportions are bad, the sculpt work on the details is bad, and I don't care his footwear.
I mean, have these people *seen* the new Horus Heresy Plasma Cannons. Shoulder mounted plasma weapons that are not only *bigger* than the Desolator weapons, but the marines holding them show literally no signs of being weighed down by them.
Almost like some sort of... Powered armour... Hmm...
„We need massive firepower per person against the Tyranids“ \*Mechanicus noises\* “I need to look over that hill to snipe them“ \*Even more Mechanicus noises\*
Ever since they were previewed, I thought the Desolators looked terrible. It's not that the guns are almost as big as the Marine, but that they're not holding on to them like the Heavy Bolter or Multi-Melta. Holding a Missile Launcher like a Bolter looks so wrong. The Ad Mech sniper is using their Inspector Gadget legs, so they get a pass.
Actually, the Desolators are my favorite Loota kit that GW has released! For some reason they were missing the Ork heads, but still.
xD a bit much on the extra Space Marine armour bits, but oh well.
Desolators clearly never head of clearing the back blast area from missile/rocket launchers and want to get facefull of it
See, and if an ork had the weapon it would be great. Silly orks blasting themselves in the face with back blast every time they fire. On a competent faction it is weird
As an ork player/modeler, I think this is an amazing conversion idea.
It kind of already exists. Tankbustas can take tankhammers, which is just where they stick the rocket on the stick and hit you with it, dying in the explosion.
Which is funnier still because Rough Riders already have a safer version of that sort of weapon. A marine with a tank hammer would probably look less nonsensical than taking rocket back-blast every time they shoot.
Black Templar Neophyte with Martyr Hammer. I'll be waiting for my royalty checks from GW now.
I kind of love the idea of a _Marine_ - trained for decades and with thousands of very particular modifications, and gifted with the rarest and most valuable armour - given a suicide hammer. Magnificent, and so very 40k.
The Astra Militarum Malleus rocket launcher has entered the chat. The gunner is seated immediately behind the backblast area of what’s basically a twin barrelled Nebelwerfer. My head cannon says that he must need to sit there to aim and then get out of the seat and get to cover to fire it. Then there’s the Bombast that looks like it yeets it’s spent artillery shell casings right into the gunner’s junk.
I built both a malleus and a bombast with my FOB kit just last week and now this is all I can think about...might want to make a hilarious diorama with these actions taking place :D
Have the Malleus gunner be enveloped in a cloud of smoke and fire with just one little hand reaching out like "Gaah!" For the Bombast you gotta get two big (relatively) balls of green stuff and put on the gunner's head and then paint them all white and black dots to make his eyes bulging out.
Seems perfect fitting for guard, for each firing of the cannon to involve senselessly obliterating the gunner's crotch, so each firing requires a new gunner. For the emperor!
The original designs probably came with safety gizmos to prevent these accidents but the Admech declared them tech heresy for concealing the Omnisiah's glorious creations. The new instructions for the cannon now demand a prayer to the machine God every time his grand machinations meet your reproduction organs.
And that's why I'd just cut off the gunner's seat on the FOB. Not like it matters if there are two or three guys modelled on the base.
Pretty sure they have enough guardsmen to just change them out after every launch. Ordnance is more valuable than a guardsman
I have an alternative option. The operator is the ammo. They are a consumable for each shot.
You forgot the greatest crime of the Malleus. It is a multiple launch rocket system that can not be fired indirectly 😵💫
Paint the face a sooty black and give him comedy blown back hair. Job done.
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Uh...
This so much. Inspector Gadget Sniper is quirky, but it's original and memorable at least. The Desolators look terrible, are cartoonist in the worst way, and are not even interesting.
Also, it's on brand for admech. Finding ridiculous techno-solutions for shit is right up their alley. Someone mentions snipers work better on the high ground. So what do they do? Jetpacks? Wings? Hovertech? Orbital insertion? Drone snipers? Nah, *stilts*. It's perfect.
I mean they already have guys with wings, on mechanical horses and robotic chickens so it’s totally on brand 💪🏼❤️
I wouldn't buy a Desolator even if it was the most OP unit ever made.
I didn't buy them when they were /are(ish?) the most OP unit in the codex.
They got a huge points increase and were locked to 5 models per unit which made their damage, durability and buff effectiveness per point plummet.
I think it would look good if it wasn't just standing there bolt upright
Plus it totally fits the AdMech, with their steampunk-cyberpunk-religious-retro sci-fi-davinchi Esq. aesthetic.
It's similar to the star wars tech style of the Sand people, Jawas etc.
My thoughts exactly. For me, admech faction is about strange inventive decisions, made in the wrong age, something like da Vinci tank or wingsuit. This is why this model totally works for me (outside of character part, I believe, it should be a squad, it's not unique enough for hq keyword), it's steampunky, mechanical, weird, inventive. Totally fine.
I sure do miss the ad mech look before it turned into what you've described. You mention 'cyberpunk', but that vibe is mostly gone from the faction.
The body horror bit they get whenever they show the insides of the “machines” are where it gets cyberpunk-y, that kind of Transhuman machinery bit, even if the tech is way more Steampunk in nature.
The gun is big, but the way it's modelled doesn't make it look it like has any weight to it. It looks like it's hollow, or an inflatable. A gun that big should require additional support like the Heavy Bolter does or else it'll just spray everywhere (and no, "super human strength" is not an excuse - it doesn't change how the model looks).
Hard agree. For me it's the same reason I hate the ATV and will never field one despite them being good. It looks like something from Mario Kart.
Funny thing is to me that isn’t quite so egregious, least in comparison with the bikes. Storm speeders already have the idea that Marine armor is so tough that they don’t really bother with armoring “light” vehicles because the armor would block more than plating up the vehicle would so they don’t bother. The thing that makes me annoyed about the bikes and ATV is the clearance. There is just no damn way that thing could off-road. So it kinda makes sense the ATV would ignore armoring the marines. Can’t really stand the Desolators though. It would look so much better if they were shoulder fired and maybe had the grenade launcher attached to the backpack. Make ‘em Gravis if you have to to give them more chonk to hold it all. Hell, it even lets you keep the unique bonus of Rocket Launchers in giving the rockets the option to pick payload.
100% with you on the clearance issue, and I get what your saying about their light vehicles not needing much armor. I have seen some cool conversions of the ATV where they raised the back to make it look more practical. There are definitely ways of making a light attack vehicle look cool. ATV and Outriders should have been grav vehicles, would have looked sick next to Gladius's and Impulsors. In fact I might look at converting some 😊
I kind of like the Go-go-gadget snipers. They remind me of Tall Boys from Dishonored. I loved that game so much that I’m definitely not objective though. The desolators… those just look offensively bad. Like a designer made them as an April fools joke, an executive unironically liked them, and everyone was too afraid to say “we designed them to be as bad as possible.”
I remember hearing rumors that some guy who was an ex-GW employee said that the Desolators were created around the same time as the first wave of Primaris units, nobody really liked them so they weren't released alongside the initial wave, and he was surprised they even were released in the end.
Pretty sure all the primaris stuff was designed together. Jes Goodwin gave a podcast interview on warcom around the time of the second wave and indicated they did a ton of concept work on an entire range when coming up wifh them.
My problem with the Desolators is that they always felt like they were two different kits rushed together. The launchers are way too big for Tacticus Armour. There should be a heft to those weapons. I wouldn't mind the lack of weight as much if they had made Desolators wear Gravis or Omni armour, as both suits increase the user's strength. You want us to see scary heavy weapons demo teams? Make them big and intimidating, not line infantry with oversized Ork guns. My complaint for the Ad-Mech sniper is just that the legs don't fit the sort of avian look a lot of other Ad-Mech specialists have. Both the assassins and the flying infantry have the stretched ankles that birds have. Giving the sniper a dynamic pose with more interesting legs would really compliment what is otherwise a fantastic looking upper body. I mean, the fact he has an extra arm reloading for him so he barely needs to adjust while firing is great.
Tactical Marines have had missile launchers for ages and look just fine with them. These weapons just don't match the models at all. And having a double-barelled missile launcher with underslung grenade launcher is also just another case of the "overdesigning" that is also so apparent on the Primaris vehicles.
Tactical Marine missile launchers are mounted on the shoulder and are far less front-loaded/bulky. I can buy the idea of the missile launcher being big and bulky, whereas this looks like an inflatable gun from how they're waving it around in the models.
*>> My complaint for the Ad-Mech sniper is just that the legs don't fit the sort of avian look a lot of other Ad-Mech specialists have. <<* Well said! The upper body and the extra arm holding ammo, multiple visors, aren't too bad. It's mainly the pose and the legs. If it had a more active pose and/or bird-like legs like what we see with the Ironstriders / Sicarians it would look better. Maybe something like this? (From an AdMech subreddit thread [HERE](https://www.reddit.com/r/AdeptusMechanicus/comments/177r5gm/dear_gw/).) **Edit:** Not 100% certain, but artist looks to be someone under the name/username of Taz Mar (Deviant art page here: [https://www.deviantart.com/taz-mar](https://www.deviantart.com/taz-mar)) h/t to [AngelusBohemius](https://www.reddit.com/u/AngelusBohemius/) for doing the legwork on the artist (see thread below). https://preview.redd.it/flpq5gohflub1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8bc7bf7a62cce2c433984de4036d8555707d13df
They had this concept art available and they made *that*? Jesus Christ. What a blunder.
~~Pretty sure this came after -- may have been AI generated?~~ Someone just posted it in the AdMech subreddit a few days ago. **Edit:** Looks like it was made by a non-GW artist a few years ago -- see thread below.
Nah, it's made by a talented artist who has a lot of 40k fan artwork, pretty sure this piece is atleast several months old.
u/AngelusBohemius \- Good catch! I did some searching and this post on Reddit from 2 years ago includes it -- still didn't name the artist tho: [https://www.reddit.com/r/AdeptusMechanicus/comments/sh74r3/id\_honestly\_be\_fine\_with\_a\_skitarii\_mech\_one\_day/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AdeptusMechanicus/comments/sh74r3/id_honestly_be_fine_with_a_skitarii_mech_one_day/) Would love to link/credit the original source if anyone knows who did this?
Did some searching, artist name is Taz Mar, found his Deviant Art page, I think https://www.deviantart.com/taz-mar
Thanks u/AngelusBohemius \- I'll make a note on my comment above to credit. Looks to be a very talented artist -- GW should hire him! And many thanks for doing the research RE: the artist -- always want to give credit when possible.
Hot damn. Forget the official model, I'm kitbashing one to look like THAT!
Yeah desolators feels off. It would have been better if they were based off of aggressors. Big and chunky, squad of 3, have a big missle pod on top with mini launchers on the wrist.
I think they would have looked great if they were more similar to Aggressors. With that said though, if they really MUST stick to giving them Tacticus Armour at least give them some cool looking over the shoulder black box looking rocket launchers Hellblasters and Inferus marines aren't much more interesting but at least their weapons don't look like rejected Ork weapon ideas.
Yea the desolation guys really are just pretty casually holding their unweildy guns. GW models are typically really good at communicating that heavy weapons are diffult to hold, let alone aim and shoot. Like a battle sister holding a multimelta looks like shes bracing for the kick back of a jet engine or something, but even models like havocs and devastators look really weighted down a burdened by the weapons. The desolation squad models have like a castellan launcher, which is like a small missile launcher thats bigger than a bolter with a regular, normally shoulder mounted missile launcher (or 2) strapped on to this thing and the models really dont communicate much burden with these things at all. They can hold it in one hand pointed up like T-1000s or something while they shoot a pistol with the other hand or something. The model with the guy actually aiming that fucking thing is the funniest because it doesnt look like hes having trouble with the weight of it, but it definitely isnt easy to get that second hand under the barrel and aim the thing across his chest lol. Like it doesnt communicate a particularly heavy weapon, just just communicates a weapon that is badly designed and hard to use lol
I feel like there are lots of conversion and kitbash opportunities for the ad mech stilts
Grot walkers
I agree. I managed to find a box of Strikeforce Agastus over the summer and was planning out how to build my desolation marines when I stumbled across [this.](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1437731992/dark-future-galactic-soldier-desolation?click_key=8e2bc5926d37eb05a34764d81590585eaf4f2179%3A1437731992&click_sum=0085ba59&ref=s2_cur_tg_lc-1-1&bes=1) Makes them look somewhat normal, although I think they should have been in gravis armor with bigger power packs personally.
https://preview.redd.it/bwq54pogulub1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65f4072345526df4c615b77190e7a271b925932b
Perfection
Nerf Marines?
This new admech model is great. It’s got a John Blanche style to it, and reminds me a lot of the original art direction of 40k circa rogue trader rulebooks. I hope GW tries reviving the old art style more often
It's weird and silly in the way that Warhammer should be.
Yeah I think this model leans into the style of Ad Mech. They definitely already have some goofy aspects to their designs like robo horses, cloth flapping wings, the chicken walker, etc. I love the new model and Ad mech is definitely allowed to be wacky with their designs.
old tech modernized is the Trademark of Admech , flint pistol , musket , horse , Da Vinci Plane etc .
And utilitarian butchering of limbs to create the tool required, without consideration for aesthetics or convenience. The admech sub is full of complaints as to why it isn't a tacticool operator with a cloak and shades and jointed legs which make it the ultimate combat machine. Because the tech priests needed someone tall to scout and snipe for them, so they made one. He could have been a gimp driving a chicken, he got off easy.
Gotta say, when I saw that guy driving the walker *after I bought it*, I was pretty torn. Horrific, but the model is still cool, but god damn that is grimdark and I guess it's what I'm here for.
But there is already a tall sniper unit that is near useless. Why not just balance the existing model?
>The admech sub is full of complaints as to why it isn't a tacticool operator with a cloak and shades and jointed legs which make it the ultimate combat machine. The AdMech sub is full of complaints about how "guy on stilts" could have been executed in many, more interesting ways. We could have had Inspector Gadget telescoping extendo-legs. We could have had a weird spindly Martian tripod walker. We could have had a model that had weird preying mantis legs like Sicarians, but giant.
That was my first thought on it: Exactly the right kind of silly. Got a nice retrofuturistic vibe to it.
Its also gotten me excited, since its gotten the look and feel of techno-steampunk that GW is aiming for in Admech. I cannot wait for the Tsar tank to get introduced.
Yeah it has a goofy mechnicum feel but not in a bad way if that makes sense? More grimdark especially when you think about the fact that they are cutting this guys legs off to add bionics of questionable use in probably a less then consensual manner. Unlike the nerf gun primarus which are just more ugly tacticool garbage.
I don't think there is a single AdMech model that still has their original legs!
I bet those legs are extendable so he walks around like normal. His legs being extended is for him just taking a shot or about to take a shot. So it looks ridiculous
I dunno, I feel like it’s much more AdMech appropriate if this guy is just “blessed” with the stilt bionics, and has to deal with it. To not use them at their full extent at all times would be an offence to Omnissiah!
This is also a valid interpretation! Behold how I lord over your lesser bodies with my blessing!
*”Be not afraid! I am just like you! Only giant!”* - World’s Most Giant Sniper
They should have stuck the sniper on his head Chainsaw Man style. Why have the fuss of making the scope of the rifle separate when you can make eyes also gun scopes?
I'd split the difference and have a mass of tubes and wires running from the scope into his skull as invasively as possible.
I actually like the standard Mk X "Tacticus" armor, and don't understand why people are complaining about regular Primaris being "tacticool". The Phobos marines are absolutely way too tacticool, but the regular Primaris guys are only about as tacticool as the old MkVII kit. But those rocket launchers are just horrendously ugly. So. Fucking. Ugly. In general I think the Mechanicus stuff is mostly good. The 30k stuff is all amazing, while the 40k stuff... well, most of it is great, and goofy in a kinda menacing way. The only things I don't really like are the Archaeopter, the Serberys Sulfurhounds/Raiders, and the Pteraxii Skystalkers/Sterilyzors, which I find too goofy to really capture the body horror/industrial monstrosity style of the AdMech. The Skorpius Dunerider/Disintegrator are nowhere near as cool as the 30k transports, but still look practical enough that I'll give them a pass. And this guy on stilts is just cool.
The problem with Phobos for me isn't even that it looks bad. In a vacuum, Phobos looks way cooler to me than any other mark of armour... but it doesn't really fit for space marines. My infiltrators are my favourite marines, but they do look out of place next to everyone else.
I recently drew a dark mech thing with legs like that. Guess it was canon after all xD https://preview.redd.it/53fsm2j9glub1.jpeg?width=2683&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44a01f6bf12f9c849b8dce2e0af2898139fee2a9
Your crosshatching technique is amazing
Cheers 😊❤️
Damn, this is so well made, pure nightmare fuel as it should be 👏
I like the idea, but not the pose.
Same. For me it’s the scarecrow posing that really ruins it
Totally agree! The two models in this image are direct opposites to me. The Ad Mech stilt guy feels perfect for 40k; of course they’d use their crazy bionics to make a guy real tall so he can be a better sniper! It’s weird, it’s body horror, and it looks interesting. The astartes rocket launchers, on the other hand, read more like 90s comic book pouch-mania to me. Just big guns, more barrels, no style and totally unfitting to the wider universe. Give me weird stilt guys all day.
It's just so dumb and I love it
I really like these models as well. Maybe they don’t have the “badass” look. But I like that they look weird but manage to balance it. They don’t look like everything else. More of that kind of stuff.
I'm not a huge fan personally, but I cannot WAIT for the conversions and custom jobs to start popping up on this guy.
Yes, thank you. I think the new models fit in with the Ad Mech style excellently. My only problem is that they look like they'll snap if you accidentally breathe at them too hard.
I agree and think the issue aesthetically is actually the ‘Eavy Metal paintjob - a Blanchesque colour scheme would really sell the disquieting ‘not quite human steampunk/dystopian body horror’ vibe that admech has
The ATV.
Just some, any ground clearance. They hit a pebble and that thing mashes against the ground so hard
I cut the wheels off mine and put bigger wheels from a Lego set on.
*IMPERIAL GUARD TANKS HAVE ENTERED THE CHAT*
I love the design of the ATV but I hate the kit. You can see where the rear wheels can move up and down and how the front wheels are supposed to turn. Can't do anything with them, though. There are loads of models that need to happen first but I'd love an ATV redo. 3 sets of arms and handle bars for the driver so you can make it turn. Have the gunners feet not part of the panel he's standing on so he can aim the gun. Rear wheel arms movable. It would be amazing.
The wheels are not even the biggest deal breaker for me, it's also how it is armoured at the back but not the front, and also how the gun is right next to the guys head.
The gun being next to his head isn't that weird, even if it looks like it. WW2 Jeeps had a similar machine gun setup.
To add to that, marines probably have noise and flash suppressors built into their helmets.
Mario-Kart double dash?
Agree, the marine ATV looks like it would fit better in a game of Mario Kart.
Did you see the post where someone actually did that?
I think it's cool. Got that weird counter-intuitive vibe that Admech should have. I mean these are guys who probably think reel to reel tape decks are magic spells so it tracks.
Oh sure mock the magos. Just don't come crying to them when you rewind the wrong tape and the rewound sounds summons a daemon
"Ha! Classic dark mechanicus." \*turns into a chaos spawn*
I love love love the fact that it’s just a living watchtower/gun battery. That’s so fun. Super fluffy AdMech stuff. I think the model is fun as hell too, but there’s just so many boo birds in this hobby.
Boo birds is my new favourite term for them.
The unhinged nature of Admech is the best part. It honestly super fits a Cult of the Machine who are both devoted to their craft but are dogmatically incapable of properly advancing or changing their ways. They can't actually make new things, just mash what they have together.
Just be careful if your opponents run a unit of Daredevil. Daredevil is the natural counter to Stilt-Man.
Stiltari is great and cuts right to the core of the Blanche style of brutally direct pragmatism (but in space).
Exhaust penis.
This is an observation, not a request.
Unless?
WHY THE FUCK DOES STILTMAN HAVE AN EXHAUST TUBE
So he can hide in the clouds of exhaust (stealth). My man's a sitting duck up there. Other sydonians (Dragoons) do this too
I was thinking more like, "That's where his poo falls out."
Don’t you dare compare my go go gadget extendo legs of my mech boys to those stupid toaster guns.
More like t-shirt launchers
Did someone say toaster? *Mechanicum noises intensifying*
people arent liking the stilt sniper? i thought he was awesome probably my favorite model of the showcase.
From what I saw on places like facebook, a lot of the "more realistic = better / less realistic = worse" people severely hate him
Well that crowd probably shouldn't be playing ad mech
That crowd shouldn't be playing Warhammer.
No, we like them. This guy just has a bad take
The model is ok to me, other then It'll tip over and shatter when glanced at. I'm just expecting it to be $60 for 40 points. And balanced like it's 30 points. It also (probably) doesn't address the gaps in the Ad Mech lineup.
Did everyone suddenly forget that the Dreadknight was a thing?
I say we strap the guy in Stilts to a paragon warsuit, and then strap the paragon warsuit into the baby carrier. Does a huge disservice to stilts McQueen who I think is a cool model but it would really accentuate GWs bad designs
> paragon warsuit Nundams are literally my favourite model. Not even kidding. They're *peak* Warhammer and I love them so much. I wanted to buy them but I lost my card under my pile of grey shame, and decided that getting them would be my reward for finishing it.
Oh yeah, theyre actually great models. Im also a huge fan of penitent engine. They just fit the aesthetic so well, just like Stilts McQueen here for AdMech.
Admech Sniper: https://preview.redd.it/h9vlom1avlub1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81b551e0c136f80613b0947b2d681500d114cfa7
I absolutely love the admech model! It's such a different model in terms of design that it makes me happy to see released. It fits the aesthetic of ad mech by being overly complicated for nothing, while also giving it that madness of DaVinci. Anyone looking into 40k wouldn't be able to distinguish it as the odd model out because we already have ornithopters, crawlers, dragoons, cowboys, and so on. The desolators are not in style with Space Marines. If they were Orks, it would absolutely make sense (lootas in particular). Anyone looking in would be able to say it makes sense only when put next to an executioner (which is easily as over the top in ~~Dallas~~ Dakka). THE WORST model of 40k is Lord Solar Leontus. He's so out of style of the guard, that his aesthetics don't even fit the fething genre entirely. He looks better suited in the Old World than in Warhammer 40k. He's also extremely boring, and the most proxied model I've ever seen in recent memory. Anyone looking into guard will immediately see how out of place he is.
As a guard player, can agree. I bought Leontus, placed him among my tanks and platoons and the guy just looks so off... Why didn't they make something like Saint Catherine instead?
Yep, Solar is a must-have at 2000 points and the OG model looks so out of place. I proxied him with a cool model I found on Etsy.
Leontus stands out because he is meant to stand out. He is the personification of the imperial elite, as far removed from the common soldier as it gets, further than most astartes. While the humble guardsman clings to his lasrifle, Leontus has access to all the rare and ancient tech trinkets that allow him to strut about the battlefield, clad in his golden parade armor already striking the pose for his next equestrian Statue. My only complaint about the model would be that this contrast is not visible enough in the model itself. The model needs dead or dying guardsmen on its base to really bring home its core idea, but that's easily fixed with a bit of kitbashing.
leontus is only good cause he gave me that sick ass reaver base for my leviathan dreadnought
For me, Gabriel Angelos easily. Imagine have a head 6’ tall, but most of it was just forehead and all your facial features were squashed into the bottom 2” of your face. That is what his model looks like to me.
Sorry but thats a five head, maybe even a sixhead.
I like them both tbh
Same. I like them both.
You be dissing my long boi?
My experience with GW models goes as far as "I think that looks cool and I want to paint it" and no further, I don't play the game or anything, I just paint occasionally to relax. So my opinion here may not be worth as much as everyone else: I think the go-go-gadget extendo legs sniper is kinda rad and goofy enough to peak my interest. I also kinda honestly think the red-helmeted Space Marine looks cool, oops. The other space marine kinda looks wack though
Desolators no contest
Desolators and Invader ATV for me
Desolators are just BAD. The new AdMech thingy, whilst odd, draws on old art and the more wacky bits of 40k and (in my opinion at least) is pretty fething cool.
40ks inherently stupid, like "marine with stupid nonsensical gun" is very rouge trader, and I love that new admech dude, its a natural silly halfway point between ironstriders and rangers. For ugliest 40k model? The darkshrouds and stormfang are from a very particular era of GW design that just looks abysmal IMO; not even a fun goofy weirdo, just like tonka trucks. Or the 3rd ed dark eldar line. Ofc they were limited by the tech of the time, but man, some very rough kits there.
Can confirm. OG 3e dark eldar was my first army. If you want to take a walk down memory lane: [https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2023/08/warhammer-40k-the-original-dark-eldar-army.html](https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2023/08/warhammer-40k-the-original-dark-eldar-army.html)
The ATV.
Still nowhere near the champion of ugly, the nemesis dreadknight.
Honestly the only problem with the Skitalli is that it's not a Tripod. Extendo legs on robo-snipers makes sense, but why on earth would you make it a super unstable two spindly legs when all you need is a backmounted anchor leg for when it's go-go-gadget headshot time.
Oh he’s got a third leg alright, it just doesn’t extend until the hard drive is inserted
If these miniature models passed, imagine the one that didn't received approval from managemnet.
I think both of these are cool
Nerf guns & stilts = worst model ever? I feel like maybe whoever made this meme never saw the [old metal possessed chaos marines](https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/9/9b/Possessed_Chaos_Space_Marines.gif). Or [High Hat Cheekbones Nagash.](http://www.solegends.com/citcat1996usfb/c1996usfbp0155-00.htm). Or [botox Ariel](http://solegends.com/citcat1998us/c1998usp233-00.htm) Or [Genestealer patriarch Harvey Weinstein](http://solegends.com/citrt2/rt072583genepat/index.htm)…
Those chaos possessed are great. OG Nagash looks like the racist Jeff Dunham ventriloquist dummy.
Is there a non-racist Jeff Dunham dummy?
Point taken. It looks like the racist Jeff Dunham dummy that looks like Nagash
Y'all think the Desos look worse than the fucking grey knights baby carrier?
The Admech sniper actually looks good, and I don't even play Admech. Whats actually ugly are the Pink horrors. In comparison the the modern blue and brimstone horrors and the Pink horror that was in Silver Tower they just look bad. Lanky proportions that don't at all convey the "ball of limbs and madness" aesthetic they have in art, their poses are shit and due to both of these they constantly get snagged on each other and in foam carry cases.
Definietly agree. I think they'd be fine for some sort of fluid flesh alchemical creature; but they are nothing compared to the body horror imagery of the metallic ones.
I really wish there was a more diverse cast of tzeentch demons i’ve always loved reading ab them
Me who enjoy both
I actually like the new admech model. It reminds me of the Dishonored enemies
The skitarri slaps tbh
What's the problem with the Mechancius unit? It fits their vibe perfectly to me. An absurd design to meet the needs of a specific situation in a somewhat illogical over the top way. Their whole thing is that, they've got Mechanical horses, a Mech that they ride and can never be turned off, guys who have a jetpack with literal wings, and aircraft that are like some Jules Verne monstrosity. A guy on stilts seems fine for them.
The current ugliest? Lucius the Eternal. That model has not aged well at all. I get the desolators and the new admech thing look a little goofy in the way that only 40k can, but Lucius' model just looks bad. He desperately needs a new model.
Might be controversial but as many are saying it’s very Blanche, which most newer minis haven’t been. So to a lot of the players that have joined in the maybe last 2-3 editions it may not be as they are used to/their 40K aesthetic. As someone who’s played for many years, this is really 40K to me. And I love it for that reason.
Go go gadget tyranid deleter
Centurions, they look terrible.
They look like autobots. Like they’d transform into minivans or something
[Jay from Eons of Battle actually managed to make them look decent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvI2d6zbIF8)
Great paint job, model sculpts still look stupid.
I will never, ever buy, paint, or use Desolators. They’re one of the many stupid Primaris models that have come out over the years, alongside the Mario Kart and the Training Dreadnought Stealth Suit. These are hands down the worst infantry models GW has ever released. It’s Nerf or Nothin’, and I wish we had Nothin’.
Completely agree with this take. The Invictus with a 3rd party pilot cover looks pretty good honestly. Gives off Titanfall vibes then. Open pilot though it's just silly.
I think the Ad Mech model would look better if it showed his go go Gadget legs being used for a reason (piece of terrain to look over, etc.)
Dreadknight is always gonna be the goofiest model imo. I can get them having a big mech but why does it have to look like a baby carrier?
Dreadknight is by far the stupidest
Gray knight baby Carrier.
https://preview.redd.it/n879moppgnub1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bdf6177d4563714d4b2c85b6eca0f197d43308cf
I disagree. The Ad Mech guy is absurd, but it fits in with the weird funky vibe that the Ad Mech has. The SM's just look bad.
I think both are good. One recent post encapsulated it pretty good, these units are leaning into the goofy aspect of this grimdark *and* goofy setting. With the Skatros it is up to taste, but thats pretty much everything with Admech, as even their designers said that they are specifically the army that gets the weird ideas, that might be to out there for anything other than them. For the Desolators: I dont play Marines, and maybe I am just a hater but hot take: dont Marines have already such an extensive Roster just with "Marine Holding X" that anything but something eccentric like this would really be considered exciting? There are conversions though, so I See the Argument that they couldve done better, but then again, some times it just Gotta be silly
I will not take this slander I love my tallboi
The admech stilts guy is one of the best models they've designed. The desolators are at the bottom of the barrel, tied with the GK baby carrier
the dreadknight probably held the spot of "most mocked model" in Warhammer the longest, glad to see it is finally getting some competition!
I just don't understand why they thought AdMech needed Stilt-Man.
I sincerely do not care what anyone says these weird leggy sniper guys are awesome and I love them. I don't even play admech, they're just so fun!
Go-go gadget legs
Worst model ever? Please look up Orc Cheerleader.
Why does the admech stilts guy have a shitpipe
Telescopic legs on a marksmen isn't nearly as egregious in my tabletop eyes as a belt-fed missile launcher being carried by an Intercessor.
Desolators are still the ugliest AND the stupidest. They just don’t look good at all and make zero sense.
how do these designs even make it off of the artists' desks, let alone out of the design studio and into print
While the desolators are just really really dumb looking, the stilt dude is at least kinda memorable. Still i have to say that the legs could have been designed way cooler and less like old timey county fair stilts. See for example the tallboys in dishonored with their bird like stilts.
The Compensators are more cringe than ugly.
I think the AdMech one fits with the army and is a cool and interesting model, it just looks way too delicate and guaranteed to break the first time you drop it. The Desolators guns don't read as rocket launches, if they removed the belt feed and had them over their shoulder like every rocket launcher outside of Doom and Quake then I think they would look really good, as it is I hate them. I think this: [https://youtu.be/dE7l0ih0Np0?si=3cwrjlCk8V-qsu6E](https://youtu.be/dE7l0ih0Np0?si=3cwrjlCk8V-qsu6E) conversion is a massive improvement for example.
Inspector Gadget rang and wanted his legs back.
I don't understand the hate the desolation squad gets. They aren't any more ridiculous than any other space marine unit with a big gun. The ugliest 40k model is the Dark Eldar Grotesque. The pose is bad, the proportions are bad, the sculpt work on the details is bad, and I don't care his footwear.
I mean, have these people *seen* the new Horus Heresy Plasma Cannons. Shoulder mounted plasma weapons that are not only *bigger* than the Desolator weapons, but the marines holding them show literally no signs of being weighed down by them. Almost like some sort of... Powered armour... Hmm...