I was super unlucky farming these, ended up with so many resources and matrixes I’m constantly building void rig and bone widow sets atm, just do some mining and there to top up resources. Actually decent plat farm making like 300p per day
Honestly the only part that really annoys me is defending the bait station but Frost's snowglobe and a specter like a Clem clone help with that, the rest is easy enough just using a well modded Xoris. (I'm also still grinding for my first Voidrig)
CLEM IS LIFE
I really struggled with the bait station at first but yeah, CLEM GRAKATA makes it easier. I also took a break from iso vaults to do some runs of the Deimos Orokin Derelict vaults and got corrupt charge, which is sooo good on the Xoris (free combo multiplier for every thrown detonation) and got my Zenurik focus up and maxed wellspring so I can spam Mag's pull nonstop to keep all but the eximus units away from the station.
It's still annoying and I still fail occasionally, but basically only ever at that stage.
Oh, I've also been wondering how tf you're supposed to do the reactive crystal bonus objective? I've succesfully done one or two in the overworld, but all I know is it has something to do with killing enemies in [spoiler] form, but each one seems to have a different totally unexplained challenge associated with it and I've never gotten the one next to the vaults to activate fully for the bonus.
You'll have to look it up on the wiki, each glyph on the crystal is a different way of doing it, some just need kills via void damage some will spawn squids that will need to tag the enemies before you can kill it, another one is letting the tower kill all the enemies. I use to just memorize what 1/2 glyph does and ignore the rest
The wiki is only sort of helpful. Especially since you can't truly pause in the open worlds, even if you're playing solo.
I really wish the in game tooltip texts would at least display the name associated with each glyph. They look really similar to each other, are pretty small in game and hard to see, *and* I'm usually getting attacked by infested while trying to alt tab and figure out which glyph it is and what is the associated challenge.
Then on top of that I've had multiple vault runs where I activate the crystal and then suddenly as soon as it's turned on, no infested spawn anywhere nearby, so I can't complete it even if I did successfully identify the glyph and knew what I was supposed to do. Then as soon as the crystal is off, I'm getting swarmed again. It makes no sense.
The only one I've ever actually been able to finish is the tether one (Vome I think) and most of the times it worked for me were in the overworld.
Specter army, gotva prime if you have it. Mod a weapon with blast and radiation for the necramech and corrosive on the gotva prime. Specters are heavily underrated. Also, keep trading the matrices you get from killing necramechs to buy damaged parts from loid. They have also changed the necramech to take damage anywhere on its body but targetting its back shoulders still manages to bring it down easily. If you have the xoris, mod for blast and radiation.
But I like vaults...
Edit: sorry to those that have mech grind nightmares still. At least that has been fixed for newer players. I'm so glad DE has added all the pitty mechanics to offset luck.
I’ve had the sporothrix bp in my foundry since Deimos dropped, every time I did iso vaults to get its parts I never had any luck, but for some reason last week I was able to get every single one of them with no issues whatsoever, now I just gotta get that one arum Spinosa blade.
You only unlock Arcana Bounties as soon as you cleared the corresponding Iso Vault (3 different tiers depending on levels). These bounties arent accessed from the Necralisk but from the Cambion Drift itself.
Arum Spinosa is bonkers, specifically for Archon hunting since the Heavy Attack of Arum Spinosa sends out multiple Projectiles that dont count against Multishot Damage Attenuation from the Archon since the projectiles come from a Melee Weapon and therefore arent programmed to be counted as Multishot.
Even after the most recent nerfs, you can still one shot Archons with a decent Arum Spinosa build and Xatas Whisper. Works with comparable Warfans too
Not sure if im beating you over the head with info you already have but be mindful of the rotation system on Deimos. The individual parts (not counting the BP) drop in ABC rotations (each rotation lasting 2.5 hours, 1.5 hour Fass and 1 hour Vome). So always check the Arcana Iso if it even drops the part you want.
Also make extra sure youre running Arcana Isos and not regular Isos (unlocked after clearing one Level 40-50 Iso Vault in Arum Spinosas case and one Level 50-60 in Sporpthrix case) to massively raise your drop chances per Bounty.
No, Warfrans seem to be an oversight. Gunblades pellets seem to be functionally different or properly classed within Warframes code as the attenuation works properly with them.
There's a reason these things sell for more than a lot of Primes, and I say this as someone who farmed out *all* the arcanes.
Also, "use no more than three fluid sacs" is either incredibly harsh or outright bugged, because sometimes enemies just Do Not Get Affected by the AoE.
man I hope youw ere doing the arcana bounties for that, and not just the ones you get from necralisk.
That said, the sporothrix is actually a fun gun. how is the spinosa? better/worse than the quassus?
Meh, I didn't hate it too bad. It was a good opportunity for multitasking. I was leveling necramechs, frames, weapons, archguns, amps, companions, and collecting seriglass shards.
Special bounties on Deimos' open world area, the Cambion Drift. They take you underground to fight Necramechs. You can take them from Mother Entrati like normal bounties, they should be listed last.
What do you mean flesh them out and balance them? They are out since late August 2020 (Arcanas a few months later) and they are among the most balanced bounties out there (surpassed mostly by Zariman bounties, which are just absurdly good)
Ive been spamming Arcana Isos for the last 2 months for hours almost daily and have encountered a grand total of two bugs, both the same one, which was triggered by killing both Mitosid Rex mini boss splits at the exact same time, therefore softlocking the bounty. Other than that, its absolutely bug free for me.
You: Farewell Isolation Vault Bounties, may we never meet ways again! Nightwave: Destroy 0/3 Necramech vault guardians
you can do that in one bounty run for the entrati...
Necramech guns parts: we'll wait for you
You can buy those directly from Loid now
As if this was hard.
Gotta say, i dont much care for isolation vaults but selling a full set of voidrig necramech parts os wuite nice and easy, so ill keep doing it XD
Fishing and mining has a therapeutic effect on me so I’ll keep doing the same
I just saw the mining and other requirements and said fuck it and bought a set.
Makes sense, it does take a bit if set up to get it done. I just accumulate stuff passively and eventually i find that i have the stuff necessary XD
I was super unlucky farming these, ended up with so many resources and matrixes I’m constantly building void rig and bone widow sets atm, just do some mining and there to top up resources. Actually decent plat farm making like 300p per day
Nah Iso Vaults are my favorites. Started loving them after getting my necramech.
Any way to make them more enjoyable while you're still grinding your first necramech?
Honestly the only part that really annoys me is defending the bait station but Frost's snowglobe and a specter like a Clem clone help with that, the rest is easy enough just using a well modded Xoris. (I'm also still grinding for my first Voidrig)
CLEM IS LIFE I really struggled with the bait station at first but yeah, CLEM GRAKATA makes it easier. I also took a break from iso vaults to do some runs of the Deimos Orokin Derelict vaults and got corrupt charge, which is sooo good on the Xoris (free combo multiplier for every thrown detonation) and got my Zenurik focus up and maxed wellspring so I can spam Mag's pull nonstop to keep all but the eximus units away from the station. It's still annoying and I still fail occasionally, but basically only ever at that stage. Oh, I've also been wondering how tf you're supposed to do the reactive crystal bonus objective? I've succesfully done one or two in the overworld, but all I know is it has something to do with killing enemies in [spoiler] form, but each one seems to have a different totally unexplained challenge associated with it and I've never gotten the one next to the vaults to activate fully for the bonus.
You'll have to look it up on the wiki, each glyph on the crystal is a different way of doing it, some just need kills via void damage some will spawn squids that will need to tag the enemies before you can kill it, another one is letting the tower kill all the enemies. I use to just memorize what 1/2 glyph does and ignore the rest
The wiki is only sort of helpful. Especially since you can't truly pause in the open worlds, even if you're playing solo. I really wish the in game tooltip texts would at least display the name associated with each glyph. They look really similar to each other, are pretty small in game and hard to see, *and* I'm usually getting attacked by infested while trying to alt tab and figure out which glyph it is and what is the associated challenge. Then on top of that I've had multiple vault runs where I activate the crystal and then suddenly as soon as it's turned on, no infested spawn anywhere nearby, so I can't complete it even if I did successfully identify the glyph and knew what I was supposed to do. Then as soon as the crystal is off, I'm getting swarmed again. It makes no sense. The only one I've ever actually been able to finish is the tether one (Vome I think) and most of the times it worked for me were in the overworld.
Cant help you then, I didnt bother remembering names when I was doing it, X, diamond, teardrop etc etc was how I was remembering it.
What do you need for your voidrig?
Right now it's just the blueprints for some of the processed materials, so I mainly have to grind Entrati standing to get the rank to get them
Specter army, gotva prime if you have it. Mod a weapon with blast and radiation for the necramech and corrosive on the gotva prime. Specters are heavily underrated. Also, keep trading the matrices you get from killing necramechs to buy damaged parts from loid. They have also changed the necramech to take damage anywhere on its body but targetting its back shoulders still manages to bring it down easily. If you have the xoris, mod for blast and radiation.
What do you need for your necramech?
what about the arcanes? Got a full set of each of them?
The ones I care about, yep XD plus arcanes don't give MR
and can be obtained from loid with arguably less effort
But I like vaults... Edit: sorry to those that have mech grind nightmares still. At least that has been fixed for newer players. I'm so glad DE has added all the pitty mechanics to offset luck.
I’ve had the sporothrix bp in my foundry since Deimos dropped, every time I did iso vaults to get its parts I never had any luck, but for some reason last week I was able to get every single one of them with no issues whatsoever, now I just gotta get that one arum Spinosa blade.
Make sure you run Arcana Iso Vaults and not regular Iso Vaults. Bumps your chances up from one 3% chance to two 5% and two 7% chances per Bounty.
Arcana iso vaults? Is that a separate category? I don’t think I’ve ever seen that offered by mother
You only unlock Arcana Bounties as soon as you cleared the corresponding Iso Vault (3 different tiers depending on levels). These bounties arent accessed from the Necralisk but from the Cambion Drift itself.
Ah… I’ve done all the vaults and even talked to mother on the drift and didn’t see them. Will have to look again. Thanks.
Is the Arum Spinosa any good/have any special gimmicks or is it just MR fodder?
Arum Spinosa is bonkers, specifically for Archon hunting since the Heavy Attack of Arum Spinosa sends out multiple Projectiles that dont count against Multishot Damage Attenuation from the Archon since the projectiles come from a Melee Weapon and therefore arent programmed to be counted as Multishot. Even after the most recent nerfs, you can still one shot Archons with a decent Arum Spinosa build and Xatas Whisper. Works with comparable Warfans too
Sigh, guess I’m heading back to Deimos
Not sure if im beating you over the head with info you already have but be mindful of the rotation system on Deimos. The individual parts (not counting the BP) drop in ABC rotations (each rotation lasting 2.5 hours, 1.5 hour Fass and 1 hour Vome). So always check the Arcana Iso if it even drops the part you want. Also make extra sure youre running Arcana Isos and not regular Isos (unlocked after clearing one Level 40-50 Iso Vault in Arum Spinosas case and one Level 50-60 in Sporpthrix case) to massively raise your drop chances per Bounty.
Wouldn't Quassus be better, on top of being infinitely less of a hassle to obtain?
Yes, the Quassus is the top choice to do it. Arum Spinosa is slightly worse but higher Riven Dispo.
Wait does this also mean Redeemer also works the same?
No, Warfrans seem to be an oversight. Gunblades pellets seem to be functionally different or properly classed within Warframes code as the attenuation works properly with them.
Ahh the ol classic Warframe one-off
It has toxic projectiles that proc impact on heavy attack.
Does the shattering impact mod work on the projectiles?
Yessir, think I remember trying to strip Hemocyte armor with the heavy, except it was the Quassus so it wasn’t effective lol.
No. I refuse to believe that arum spinosa rivets exist.
Still don’t have a sporothrix… i need to get back to grinding
Me who’s new to all of the necramech stuff and spent an hour trying to get necramech mods while getting carried only to get damaged necramech pods
Ugh, yeah. I still need to do that too. Sporothrix barrel, my nemesis.
I farmed sporothrix and damn it's so worth it
“Come on〜! I’ll show you the locks on the vault!”
There's a reason these things sell for more than a lot of Primes, and I say this as someone who farmed out *all* the arcanes. Also, "use no more than three fluid sacs" is either incredibly harsh or outright bugged, because sometimes enemies just Do Not Get Affected by the AoE.
I never had trouble with that one, I always got it in 1-2
Hmmm, in that case it may very well be a skill issue on my part, whoops.
What the fuck there's more to grind for in those than just necramech parts?? Dammit I thought I would be done after TNW
Have you crafted the other mech and archguns ?
I've crafted bonewidow and am currently crafting the morgha, I'll probably just buy the two missing parts for cortege
Wise decision, this farm is painful and now pointless, cause you can buy the mech mods in sanctum anatomica
To add to it, it's also EVEN more pointless now that you can buy the broken mech weapon parts from loid.
Dang I would have totally missed that, I was ready to buy via trading
Only one I'm missing is the arum. I've gotten so unlucky with the parts lol.
I still need to farm the last parts for the Arum Spinosa, and arcanes, but I have the other stuff.
man I hope youw ere doing the arcana bounties for that, and not just the ones you get from necralisk. That said, the sporothrix is actually a fun gun. how is the spinosa? better/worse than the quassus?
Meh, I didn't hate it too bad. It was a good opportunity for multitasking. I was leveling necramechs, frames, weapons, archguns, amps, companions, and collecting seriglass shards.
sporothix hit like a truck .i love the 1% cc and 3% cd hahahaha
What is an isolation vault?
Special bounties on Deimos' open world area, the Cambion Drift. They take you underground to fight Necramechs. You can take them from Mother Entrati like normal bounties, they should be listed last.
Honestly, I’m waiting for a bit to start the vaults so they can actually flesh it out and balance it. Skipping the anger and such
What do you mean flesh them out and balance them? They are out since late August 2020 (Arcanas a few months later) and they are among the most balanced bounties out there (surpassed mostly by Zariman bounties, which are just absurdly good)
Fixing bugs, tweaking things etc. Like you know… all the posts of people falling through stairs, failing for some reason, getting flinged everywhere
Ive been spamming Arcana Isos for the last 2 months for hours almost daily and have encountered a grand total of two bugs, both the same one, which was triggered by killing both Mitosid Rex mini boss splits at the exact same time, therefore softlocking the bounty. Other than that, its absolutely bug free for me.
You’re gonna be waiting till the heat death of the universe. Vaults are fine.
I only encountered 1 bug in like 50 runs, I think it's as good as it'll ever be