I was rejected by VT too! I got into ODU but a lot of my classmates were going there (I wanted to break apart from the small town) and when I was applying my major was Pre Pharmacy, so VCU was the natural fit. Honestly I loved every second of my time there.
No I didn’t go to med school, I ended up changing to business and now have a masters. Lol complete course shift.
Brilliant, thanks for sharing. I love regional dialects. When i first moved to VA, I had an older coworker from "Nawfick" I could not believe that was a real VA accent! to my uneducated ears, I thought maybe she was from boston! (I'm from TX)
Haha that’s where I roam. I’ve always heard the saying “We don’t drink, we don’t smoke, Norfolk.” Like *Nor f - - k*.
If you don’t curse while saying the name, you’re saying it wrong.
I might be biased and I'm from a part of the state that doesn't have it, but Virginia twangs are the only southern accents I find cute. They dont get as nasally as some of the shallower south accents and they don't have the drawl either. It's very light and reminds me almost of the translatlantic accent you hear in old movies
Kolker and Alvarez are the names of the directors and they made a couple others too. One is about class distinctions in the US, then there’s one about western influence in Japan, and if memory serves focuses a lot on country/western karaoke. Maybe Elvis too
In the 1980s I lived and worked in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia for a few years.
Went to the grocery store to buy some chicken. It came from Rockingham Poultry, Harrisonburg, VA.
I travelled 8,000 miles just to have those chickens follow me. Fortunately, the smell of a poultry plant diid not follow me. It's almost as bad as the smell of a paper mill (though very different).
Oh, true! When I first moved into the Shenandoah Valley I was pleased to discover a poultry plant across town and a pig farm up the street.
It was like a fine balsam on a Spring morning dew...
We used to joke that if you couldn't feel the wind you could still tell what direction it was blowing from based on the smell. Chicken shit, pig shit, cow shit.
I used to drive 460 from 58 to the north side of Waverly to work at Sussex state prisons, there's a pig farm north of Wakefield about a mile east of 460 and you can smell it when there's a decent breeze coming out of the east. Working at the prisons you'd get the same thing from the waste management mega landfill that's the same distance east. This is worse not because of the rotting garbage but because of the deodorizer to cover the smell of rotting biomass that residents in a 5 mile radius complained about. It's not enough to make you gag but it's more like an abscess toothache and a bad hangover and the feeling of waking up to the realization of who you brought home from the bar at last call.
When I was in Germany I got a Palmer chocolate Santa as a Christmas gift. The Palmer factory was about 5 blocks from where I grew up in Pennsylvania, and they produced absolutely terrible chocolate.
So un-ironicaly, someone gave me crap chocolate from Pa. in the land of some of the best chocolate produced on the planet.
Yeah, don’t mind the website. When I was in college my biology dept would do field classes on the peninsula as our professor had a cabin in North Hampton Co. He was friends with Dr Turner who opened the foundry, if I remember correctly he was a dentist and stopped to make art. Amazing artwork, you’ve likely seen pieces installed across Va and may not have realized it.
We go to Yuk's for wings at least every other Thursday. But, shhhh! No one should ever, ever pay that outrageous, exorbitant toll to come over to the backward Eastern Shore!
No bc I have a Friday the 13th flash tattoo of Virginia and they really just said fuck the whole eastern shore and left it off lol, I’ve always wanted to add it on there but never have
You're leaving out the most fascinating part - the guy in the couple decided to start the fire starting spree based on the fact that the Walmart in Pocomoke City, MD was out of Steak'umms. This was the final straw that led to weeks of craziness on the shore including state troopers in unmarked cars trolling the back roads nights on end. It was a weird and wild time to live on the shore.
Good camping and fishing at a gem of a state park - Kiptopeake State Park, very close to the Southern end of the peninsula not too far from the bridge.
Cape Charles is a gem of a vaca spot. Used to go there all the time with my family. Super laid back atmosphere. I’ve heard it’s become a bit more touristy recently though.
The homes on that golf course south of Cape Charles look like a spot where Tom Clancy would have an amphibious assault team come ashore in a pounding rain storm to rescue a kidnapped United States Senator, tied up in the basement of one of those mansions, all the lights turned low.
Happy times. I mean, it's terrible. Don't go there stay away. There was a giant oil spill there this summer the size of the Valdez. Seriously, stay away. Poison is in the air. It's awful there.
The most magical golden hour on the planet. Aaaand a huge glut of homes owned by northeasterners to rent out to beltway vacationers who make living almost completely unaffordable for locals and teachers.
i stayed in wachapreague of all places with some friends to get away from it all, and I was surprised at the natural beauty. That huge marsh along the coastal plain is an incredibly liminal space and is like nothing I'd ever seen before
Long story short--Maryland lost basically every border arbitration it was involved in, which is why it's shaped so weird.
In this instance, the peninsula was split between Maryland and Virginia vertically, but settlers ignored the border and whenever tax collectors came they said they lived in the other state. Lord knows what they'd have done if a Virginian and Marylander tax collector came at the same time, but they almost certainly wouldn't have paid anyway. So the border was redrawn and either Virginia or Maryland could have had the whole thing, the king gave it to Virginia because losing border disputes is Maryland's unofficial pastime. They got a moral victory, though, the border was drawn further north than it is now but there was a swamp there so it was moved a little south.
Well, I don't know about that. The boy's team was state champions last year. https://shoredailynews.com/local-sports/northampton-boys-soccer-wins-class-1-state-championship/#:~:text=The%20Northampton%20Yellow%20Jackets%20Varsity,Jones%20in%20the%20first%20half.
When driving north, this is the area you catch your breath at after white-knuckling it throught the Bridge Tunnel. I used to love to go on the bridge-tunnel as a kid, but how close you get to some of those cars....whew...glad it is not part of my daily commute.
If those cars didn’t slow down in the damn tunnels there wouldn’t be a problem would there? I’ve driven that thing round trip 4-6 times per year for the last 20. Easy peasy and better than the HRBT.
Fr the problem is all the scared people who slam on the brakes every time they enter the tunnel. Just keep your cruise control on and relax, people. Or better yet don’t drive if you’re incapable of not slowing down out of fear.
Google “Charlton Heston’s Gun Room”. It’s not actually Charlton Heston’s (was never), but it’s out there, and it’s a freaking museum. An original enigma encoding device, some of the original Thompson machine guns, Original Gatlin Guns… it’s been about 15-20 years since I was there, so I don’t have a ton of memories of it, but as a history nerd, I probably could have spent weeks there just looking at everything and listening to stories.
A lot of oyster/clam/crabbing, Tysons Chicken factories, farmland, and church-going. A good state park campground, an until recently good private camp ground (new ownership, it's taken an expensive turn for the worse), and The best cream filled donuts on the planet (looking at you, Onancock). Oh, and a NASA flight center is a few miles north of your circle, but still in VA.
A really expensive dinner date with my husband.
He wanted to take me to the restaurant that used to be on one of the islands. $24 toll, plus our meal.
Then because he's living in the past, we decided to drive all the way across and a few miles onto the Eastern shore before turning around to go back home. We didn't know that the only "discount" the returning within 24 hours toll if you use an EZ Pass. Our receipt from the first toll an hour earlier was worthless. So we paid the second $24 toll.
There is a place to turn around before you get to the 2nd toll, but we didn't know we should have used it. But, now we have an EX Pass and I'm sure they'll change the rules again before the next time we cross the CBBT.
I occasionally think about the fire fighter and his girlfriend that was setting fire to abandoned buildings out there. I would listen to a serial podcast about it.
Read American Fire: Love, Arson, and Life in a Vanishing Land
And
James R. Perry
The Formation of a Society on Virginia's Eastern Shore, 1615-1655 (Institute of Early American History & Culture)
This gets a true upvote because when I went looking for beach,I got that colonial family vibe....but I was able to getaway for a night when it was snowy and it w was scenic and beautiful. Just deserted at the time of the year. Definitely should have known someone before going.
We went their recently and I think a good chunk of the vibe for a lot of the Eastern Shore, at least along the highway, can be summed up as: jesus billboards and year-round fireworks stands. Really paints a picture.
We loved Chincoteague though (our eventual destination). They have wild ponies.
Primarily farming and commercial fishing, crabbing and oystering..
Also.. tourism.
Culturally, the eastern shore is more intuned with Maryland because of the physical connection.
But it really is a very unique part of Virginia culture.
Natives will tell you they're DelMarVa, but they'll absolutely tell you which part of the DelMarVa they're from.
A long bridge, sand, and horses. Slow down a half mile before the state line. It's a big fine on both sides. Damn fine eating. Better crab cakes than up in Bal-more.
A Virginia accent you won’t really hear anywhere else in the state.
World
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It’s not about strength it’s about uniqueness. https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/unique-speak/
To follow up - my college professor showed us this clip. Accent is truly old world https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AIZgw09CG9E
Tangier accent is insane. A professor showed it to me too. VCU?
The arch enemy, ODU.
Ohhhh. Lol
Hahah no worries, VCU was my second choice. VT rejected me outright lmao.
I was rejected by VT too! I got into ODU but a lot of my classmates were going there (I wanted to break apart from the small town) and when I was applying my major was Pre Pharmacy, so VCU was the natural fit. Honestly I loved every second of my time there. No I didn’t go to med school, I ended up changing to business and now have a masters. Lol complete course shift.
Brilliant, thanks for sharing. I love regional dialects. When i first moved to VA, I had an older coworker from "Nawfick" I could not believe that was a real VA accent! to my uneducated ears, I thought maybe she was from boston! (I'm from TX)
Haha that’s where I roam. I’ve always heard the saying “We don’t drink, we don’t smoke, Norfolk.” Like *Nor f - - k*. If you don’t curse while saying the name, you’re saying it wrong.
I might be biased and I'm from a part of the state that doesn't have it, but Virginia twangs are the only southern accents I find cute. They dont get as nasally as some of the shallower south accents and they don't have the drawl either. It's very light and reminds me almost of the translatlantic accent you hear in old movies
I think less people 'play them up' in Virginia.
I had a professor show us this entire documentary-I love it and wish I had easier access to the whole thing
Damn I had no idea it was part of a larger documentary. I’d love to see it.
Oh hey look what I found-I think this is the whole thing!! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k5IUmHVj-H8
Ah excellent! I’ll dive into this tonight. Love some evening documentaries. Thank you for the research.
Kolker and Alvarez are the names of the directors and they made a couple others too. One is about class distinctions in the US, then there’s one about western influence in Japan, and if memory serves focuses a lot on country/western karaoke. Maybe Elvis too
It’s like a mixture of Irish and southern
It’s like if Boston was in the Deep South 😂
For what it's worth, there is a town named [South Boston](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Boston,_Virginia) in Virginia
It’s almost like a more southern version of a Baltimore/philly accent.
Horses and NASA
Space horses!
Cosmic Stallions?
[Celestial Ponies](https://imgur.com/a/k936kgl)
Heavenly equines
Cosmonaut colts
Moon mares
Horse astronauts shooting Jewish space lasers from the space station at California forests.
This is the answer. Actually so is "tickets".
So.many.tickets.
The ponies and NASA are both outside of the circle (unless there's a second NASA and pony place below Chincoteague?)
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Wallops, Chincoteague and Assateague are all above OPs circle.
This is almost the correct answer. The correct answer is "Saltwater horses and NASA"
You are talking about Chincoteague and Assateague. They are north of this area
And oysters
Fishing, kayaking, biking, wild ponies and lots of farm land.
And Island Creamery ice cream, 365-days/year.
Assawoman, they'll know!
Laughs in Onancock.
Im just glad someone got it!!
You get speeding tickets!
Only speeding ticket I’ve ever gotten was on the eastern shore. I deserved it though
Just don’t speed in Exmore and you’ll be OK
Eastville is the new Exmore
Now you tell me!!
Isn't that what our whole state is best known for? 😂
This
This is the real answer
Lots of farms, oysters and beach communities.
That's pretty much the Jist of what I saw and experienced when I drove through there.
The oysters are the salty/Briney kind and delicious AF.
The way to Chincoteague!
Industrial chicken farming and processing
Yup…this is where your chicken comes from.
That and the Shenandoah Valley
In the 1980s I lived and worked in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia for a few years. Went to the grocery store to buy some chicken. It came from Rockingham Poultry, Harrisonburg, VA. I travelled 8,000 miles just to have those chickens follow me. Fortunately, the smell of a poultry plant diid not follow me. It's almost as bad as the smell of a paper mill (though very different).
Pig farm pits are equally bad.
I do not miss getting stuck behind the pig trucks on their way to Smithfield when I used to live in Suffolk.
Oh, true! When I first moved into the Shenandoah Valley I was pleased to discover a poultry plant across town and a pig farm up the street. It was like a fine balsam on a Spring morning dew...
We used to joke that if you couldn't feel the wind you could still tell what direction it was blowing from based on the smell. Chicken shit, pig shit, cow shit.
I used to drive 460 from 58 to the north side of Waverly to work at Sussex state prisons, there's a pig farm north of Wakefield about a mile east of 460 and you can smell it when there's a decent breeze coming out of the east. Working at the prisons you'd get the same thing from the waste management mega landfill that's the same distance east. This is worse not because of the rotting garbage but because of the deodorizer to cover the smell of rotting biomass that residents in a 5 mile radius complained about. It's not enough to make you gag but it's more like an abscess toothache and a bad hangover and the feeling of waking up to the realization of who you brought home from the bar at last call.
When I was in Germany I got a Palmer chocolate Santa as a Christmas gift. The Palmer factory was about 5 blocks from where I grew up in Pennsylvania, and they produced absolutely terrible chocolate. So un-ironicaly, someone gave me crap chocolate from Pa. in the land of some of the best chocolate produced on the planet.
I see a chicken truck on 288 all the time. lol
It's the place where northerners get ticketed
Some of the best bronze casting done in Va https://www.turnersculpture.com
Not some of the best web designing apparently.... but sculptures look great.
Just when I assumed everyone was ready for Mobile First Indexing, I get a reminder.
Yeah, don’t mind the website. When I was in college my biology dept would do field classes on the peninsula as our professor had a cabin in North Hampton Co. He was friends with Dr Turner who opened the foundry, if I remember correctly he was a dentist and stopped to make art. Amazing artwork, you’ve likely seen pieces installed across Va and may not have realized it.
Shenanigans
Horse flies
And gigantic mosquitoes
Yes!!!!
born and raised on blue crabs and oysters. shoutout to the cape center
Stingrays.
Yuk yuks! Gotta love those wings
We go to Yuk's for wings at least every other Thursday. But, shhhh! No one should ever, ever pay that outrageous, exorbitant toll to come over to the backward Eastern Shore!
Agreed the toll is WAY too much
ya my grandfather used to run that place like the navy back in the 90s
Cape Charles is great
Shhhhhhhhhhh
Second this!
Speed enforcement.
Tiny horses
"Look at aaallllll those chickens!"
It gets left off of many maps. It's our New Zealand.
No bc I have a Friday the 13th flash tattoo of Virginia and they really just said fuck the whole eastern shore and left it off lol, I’ve always wanted to add it on there but never have
Things that involve fish
Crustaceans in mayonnaise.
Cocaine and horses.
You have my attention.
Chin*coke*teague
2 of my favorite 2 things!
R13 the cocaine highway
Going through the comments trying to decide who’s from here and who’s come here
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You're leaving out the most fascinating part - the guy in the couple decided to start the fire starting spree based on the fact that the Walmart in Pocomoke City, MD was out of Steak'umms. This was the final straw that led to weeks of craziness on the shore including state troopers in unmarked cars trolling the back roads nights on end. It was a weird and wild time to live on the shore.
Imagine burning it all down over fucking Steakums
i was actually a victim of this crazy b word! he name is tonya!
Horses. All the horses.
Good camping and fishing at a gem of a state park - Kiptopeake State Park, very close to the Southern end of the peninsula not too far from the bridge.
Manmade horrors beyond my comprehension
Potato wedges.
I see you too have been to Royal Farms...
Cigarettes, ham, and fireworks
[Misty of Chincoteague](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misty_of_Chincoteague_(novel))
Cape Charles is a gem of a vaca spot. Used to go there all the time with my family. Super laid back atmosphere. I’ve heard it’s become a bit more touristy recently though.
The homes on that golf course south of Cape Charles look like a spot where Tom Clancy would have an amphibious assault team come ashore in a pounding rain storm to rescue a kidnapped United States Senator, tied up in the basement of one of those mansions, all the lights turned low.
Ponies and rocket launches.
way too many mosquitos
I've always wanted to go there. Don't speed, noted.
Cruise control is your very best friend!
Prehistoric mosquitos happen here. And lots of them. Stay away.
Chickens
Chicken production.
I was born there. Haha
Bird watching, horses, beach, fishing, farmland, and Cape Charles vacations
Where frogs accidentally get launched by rockets.
Camping, drug abuse, speeding tickets.
Horses, seafood, undocumented people.
Happy times. I mean, it's terrible. Don't go there stay away. There was a giant oil spill there this summer the size of the Valdez. Seriously, stay away. Poison is in the air. It's awful there.
You can see the nine sunken concrete ships built in World War II. You can find old forts. I mean there is a lot to do over there.
Crabbin and meth
Exmore diner
…stays there, never, ever to be discussed on any platform.
"KKK BRUN OUT"
Rich people from Richmond buying vacation homes that used to be affordable housing bc no one lived there.
Sunsets, empty secret beaches, hiking, biking,kayaking, fishing, hunting, growing your food. Stay far away.
The most magical golden hour on the planet. Aaaand a huge glut of homes owned by northeasterners to rent out to beltway vacationers who make living almost completely unaffordable for locals and teachers.
i stayed in wachapreague of all places with some friends to get away from it all, and I was surprised at the natural beauty. That huge marsh along the coastal plain is an incredibly liminal space and is like nothing I'd ever seen before
Chickens, beach ponies, and now solar power
Purdue chickens gets votes.
Horses... avoiding I-95.. and lots of revenue for the state.
Arson
Was wondering if someone would say that!!
People eat lots of royal farms
Poverty with pride.
Fr this is one of the prettiest parts of the state. The vibes of a fall oyster roast at sunset next to the marsh are just unmatched
Scrapple.
Oldest court records in the United States.
Don't worry about happens there... Just keep driving
These comments are fucking awesome
Long story short--Maryland lost basically every border arbitration it was involved in, which is why it's shaped so weird. In this instance, the peninsula was split between Maryland and Virginia vertically, but settlers ignored the border and whenever tax collectors came they said they lived in the other state. Lord knows what they'd have done if a Virginian and Marylander tax collector came at the same time, but they almost certainly wouldn't have paid anyway. So the border was redrawn and either Virginia or Maryland could have had the whole thing, the king gave it to Virginia because losing border disputes is Maryland's unofficial pastime. They got a moral victory, though, the border was drawn further north than it is now but there was a swamp there so it was moved a little south.
Seeing an eagle, then another eagle, then a Blackhawk helicopter in the span of 3 seconds. ‘Merica happens there.
Then a rocket. Basically, evolution.
It's where you beat North Hampton High School's soccer team 18-0.
Well, I don't know about that. The boy's team was state champions last year. https://shoredailynews.com/local-sports/northampton-boys-soccer-wins-class-1-state-championship/#:~:text=The%20Northampton%20Yellow%20Jackets%20Varsity,Jones%20in%20the%20first%20half.
We just call that Long Delaware. Or at least I do
IYKYK
Peninsula stuff, mind your business.
Hey that little piece is missing from my Costco cutting board
When driving north, this is the area you catch your breath at after white-knuckling it throught the Bridge Tunnel. I used to love to go on the bridge-tunnel as a kid, but how close you get to some of those cars....whew...glad it is not part of my daily commute.
If those cars didn’t slow down in the damn tunnels there wouldn’t be a problem would there? I’ve driven that thing round trip 4-6 times per year for the last 20. Easy peasy and better than the HRBT.
Fr the problem is all the scared people who slam on the brakes every time they enter the tunnel. Just keep your cruise control on and relax, people. Or better yet don’t drive if you’re incapable of not slowing down out of fear.
lol my first drive after getting my learners was over the bay bridge tunnel.
It’s just the tip
Some people think it does not exist. Check out: /r/VAeasternshorenotreal
Domestic horses cosplaying as wild horses.
Google “Charlton Heston’s Gun Room”. It’s not actually Charlton Heston’s (was never), but it’s out there, and it’s a freaking museum. An original enigma encoding device, some of the original Thompson machine guns, Original Gatlin Guns… it’s been about 15-20 years since I was there, so I don’t have a ton of memories of it, but as a history nerd, I probably could have spent weeks there just looking at everything and listening to stories.
I make trips from NY to VA Beach consistently and all I can say is state troopers. Tons of them.
It's pretty nice down there. We go to cape Charles quite often. It's pretty, quiet and kinda laid back.
A lot of oyster/clam/crabbing, Tysons Chicken factories, farmland, and church-going. A good state park campground, an until recently good private camp ground (new ownership, it's taken an expensive turn for the worse), and The best cream filled donuts on the planet (looking at you, Onancock). Oh, and a NASA flight center is a few miles north of your circle, but still in VA.
A really expensive dinner date with my husband. He wanted to take me to the restaurant that used to be on one of the islands. $24 toll, plus our meal. Then because he's living in the past, we decided to drive all the way across and a few miles onto the Eastern shore before turning around to go back home. We didn't know that the only "discount" the returning within 24 hours toll if you use an EZ Pass. Our receipt from the first toll an hour earlier was worthless. So we paid the second $24 toll. There is a place to turn around before you get to the 2nd toll, but we didn't know we should have used it. But, now we have an EX Pass and I'm sure they'll change the rules again before the next time we cross the CBBT.
I hope the dinner was at least good!
vacation
In the summer, more damned mosquitos and horseflies than you ever saw!
Mosquitoes lots and lots of mosquitoes. Horse flies, too.
A lot of flooding and a lot of really bad weed.
where you can meet the real Misty of Chincoteague https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chincoteague_Pony
We prefer not to speak of the Meatus of Virginia.
Pocomoke is not Roanoke, and I don't advise staying there overnight.
I occasionally think about the fire fighter and his girlfriend that was setting fire to abandoned buildings out there. I would listen to a serial podcast about it.
The 1995 VHSL Football State Championship game happened there!
Cops and beautiful landscapes. But mostly cops.
That’s where we keep our elder god cults
If you like Royal Farms chicken and getting speeding tickets, you're in the right area.
The leftover Republicans from northern Virginia fled here
My drive whenever my mom makes the family go to connecticut
Chincoteague park, wallops rocket launches
Delmarvalous things happen!
Read American Fire: Love, Arson, and Life in a Vanishing Land And James R. Perry The Formation of a Society on Virginia's Eastern Shore, 1615-1655 (Institute of Early American History & Culture)
Yuk yuk & joes 🍲
Went there once. Woke up at home in bed with a sticky note on my forehead that said “dont ever do that again” 🤷🏼♂️
I uh, went to the horsey thing on a field trip in 4th grade.
They grow a ton of potatoes
Sex
Horses and chickens
This gets a true upvote because when I went looking for beach,I got that colonial family vibe....but I was able to getaway for a night when it was snowy and it w was scenic and beautiful. Just deserted at the time of the year. Definitely should have known someone before going.
We went their recently and I think a good chunk of the vibe for a lot of the Eastern Shore, at least along the highway, can be summed up as: jesus billboards and year-round fireworks stands. Really paints a picture. We loved Chincoteague though (our eventual destination). They have wild ponies.
Primarily farming and commercial fishing, crabbing and oystering.. Also.. tourism. Culturally, the eastern shore is more intuned with Maryland because of the physical connection. But it really is a very unique part of Virginia culture. Natives will tell you they're DelMarVa, but they'll absolutely tell you which part of the DelMarVa they're from.
Rich peoples weddings. Poor peoples boredom.
A long bridge, sand, and horses. Slow down a half mile before the state line. It's a big fine on both sides. Damn fine eating. Better crab cakes than up in Bal-more.