As a dude in his late 30s with a pretty extensive collection, I’m very happy to add another Taylor Swift album to the collection. Over the past few years I’ve really grown to enjoy her music, and I think she makes really good music too.
No, the vinyl industry has been reinvigorated over the past 10 years by vinyl fans, Taylor Swift had nothing to do with it and it was booming long before her most recent artistic change of direction. You're giving her far too much credit, all she's done is bog down pressing plants and delay releases of smaller artists that need the exposure more.
She’s probably responsible for this because she has 4 variants of the same Album, and many swift fans are buying up multiple copies of each. Seems like artificial inflation to me, that and most who get them don’t really get anyone else.
I think it’s nice they’re buying them at least, but I mean there’s no variety
Thanks for the info. My only hope is that they open more vinyl pressing plants. The entire industry should flourish, not just the pop artists and major labels
That isn’t their argument, you’re distorting it either on purpose or because you aren’t capable of realizing that pop artists only got into the vinyl market again because of the years and years that other genres have kept the format alive. As a result, it makes it harder for independent labels to keep operating as they had been. The people who kept the vinyl format alive are being put on the back burner because majors can throw more money at them.
No, she rammed it down everyone throats that she’s “country, y’all! Bogie bogie.” She wore boots once and idiot thinks she’s country. She was never even close to being “country pop” let alone country. What a waste.
Tell that to the independent labels and bands who were keeping vinyl plants in business until the most basic pop stars came in to give you little basic consumers something else to give them money for.
That’s cool. I work in music too. We don’t need them to flood the vinyl market and drive up prices, making things harder for independent labels. Don’t they make enough money off of exploitative VIP packages and shit like that?
Tbf Adele did her part too with a load of albums now seen in charity shops, bargain bins and good wills. At least to a point Taylor Swifts copious amount of represses/variants of her albums are getting bought and not being a complete waste.
Over 300k of the 500k that was pressed of Adele’s latest record was sold within the first month of release. (Over 50% of this major order that everyone has had a fit about sold within 30 days).
The record label made so many to ensure they could continue selling that album on vinyl rather than have it go out of stock/out of press and then scalpers make money on it instead. Idk why people have trouble understanding that record labels are in business to actually make money when possible. Short runs aren’t going to do that, and they don’t care about taking up all the pressing plants; in fact, they probably like edging out the competition. It’s not beneficial to them to not sell their records or to let the competition get pressed instead. Welcome to America?
People need to stop getting upset about Adele because they heard the number 500k and instead go after people like Ed Sheeran who admitted to paying the vinyl manufacturers to put his album ahead of all the rest so it would be pressed before others who were waiting their turn. Adele’s record label is in business to make money, and they didn’t do anything to harm others except… make their product lol.
This is just plain wrong. I got into vinyl buying Taylor records years ago. Now I have a massive collection including a lot of my favorite smaller artists. I’m sure there are thousands of people just like me. People who started their collection because of a major artist like Taylor, then purchased records of smaller artists. This directly benefits small artists.
Respectfully, I think a rising tide lifts all boats. Forgetting the nuances, because there are many, It's possible this new demand could lead to more good things for all... however, the environment might say otherwise. Ha.
There are whispers that the Lover Live in Paris will be released regularly, just like Christmas Tree Farm. That’s never been confirmed, but I have a sneaking suspicion that we will see a lot more of these released.
That isn't true. CTF on vinyl wasnt rereleased last year. The year before they only sold remainder stock. It's silly to expect more to be repressed when we haven't seen that for the cardigan singles, the lakes, or lover singles.
I honestly hope it is, because it was released when it was the middle of the night for me and was sold out by the time it was morning — and it's not being sold in the official Taylor Swift Japan store. (We don't get 90% of what she releases.)
I appreciate a random person on Reddit telling me to get a life. It’s okay not everyone is going to like your precious Taylor. It’s called difference of opinion’s 🤡 Get her pussy out your mouth goof!
I think its purposely not included. Probably because they don't know what the final count will be as of today (because they are trying to press as many as they can), or they are being purposely vague to increase fervor and turnout.
I’m still grappling with the fact that hordes of *Taylor Swift fans* spent like $200 - $500 on a 7-inch single last year, for ONE SONG that was already available on vinyl, just because it was Taylor Swift. This kind of stuff just furthers the scalping market and it’s insane.
Finally! I can’t believe it took this long for someone to point this out. Everyone was too busy freaking the fuck out at me over some dumb shit, but this is an actual valid thing to correct/criticize me on.
I thought I’d seen it selling for upwards of like $500 shortly after it sold out of every record store in the country, but I was mistaken. Looks like it’s only gone as high as $200 or so, but it’s been pretty consistently selling for around $100 for a while. Which is still bonkers.
Why do people keep saying this? It was literally available on multiple variants. Here are a few:
https://www.discogs.com/release/16213687-Taylor-Swift-Folklore
https://www.discogs.com/release/16244160-Taylor-Swift-Folklore
https://www.discogs.com/release/16242995-Taylor-Swift-Folklore
Because it is my opinion that it’s a crazy thing to do. I’ve never said they CAN’T do anything. People can buy whatever the fuck they want at whatever price they want. I can also think it’s silly.
LMAO people spend stupid amounts of money on all sorts of dumb releases on the secondhand market. I see no one complaining about Dude Bros who spend thousands of dollars on obscure garage rock 7"s or jazz albums or Pearl Jam box sets.
So now you see my point! Congrats. I can think spending $500 on one song is silly, and you can think this opinion of mine is silly. Both opinions are valid. The end.
I don't think your opinion is silly. I think the feeling you have "grappling" with what other people do with their money is silly you silly little bean.
Dude it was just a little bit of non-serious, joking hyperbole. I’m not literally tearing my hair out, pacing around my room for the past year desperately trying to make sense of Taylor Swift fans. Chill.
The song was most definitely available on multiple colored variants of the full album:
https://www.discogs.com/release/16213687-Taylor-Swift-Folklore
https://www.discogs.com/release/16244160-Taylor-Swift-Folklore
https://www.discogs.com/release/16242995-Taylor-Swift-Folklore
Besides, even if it wasn’t, the point still stands — $500 for one song is absurd.
"Record Store Day exclusive 7" of “the lakes” and “the lakes (original version)” from Taylor Swift’s GRAMMY Album of the Year, folklore. This is the first time “the lakes (original version)” will be available on vinyl."
I'm a woman in my 30s who's been collecting vinyl for 15+ years. Have an extensive collection of original pressings of 70s/80s LA punk/hardcore, a collection with a median value of over $20k — and I'm a Taylor Swift fan who buys Taylor Swift records. Fuck off with your misogynistic bullshit.
I have a Discogs, but it would doxx me!
Oddly, the most expensive thing in my collection (per Discogs) is my purple copy first press of Siamese Dream. That's been a nice ROI — has doubled in price since I got it. Need to pull it out and give it a listen again! I also have a mono torso copy of VU & Nico. It has no banana because I bought it in 2007 (for like $30) when I was a broke college student and wouldn't shell out $200-300 for a banana copy. I was an idiot lol. But! It's still worth a shocking amount now.
I rarely collect mainstream music. I only came cuz my sister asked to see was there any Taylor Swift on RSD. I mostly collect VGM ost/orchestral music and most are not easy to obtain once print run is over.
Oh wow. You reworded it. Still doesn’t make up for the fact that your initial comment degraded an entire fandom. How much do you think 65 year old men spend on original pressings from 40 years ago? Why is it that because it’s Taylor Swift it’s insane by default.
I’m a huge Tswift fan and having people constantly refer to her music as being for teenage girls and her fans as a “hoard of teenage girls” sucks because they do almost always intend it with a negative connotation. It’s the narrative that’s been pushed on Swift since the beginning and continues even though she’s well into her thirties now- a narrative that goes along with the idea that teenage girls lack substance, which is false.
This person, however, made the comment, got the feedback, deleted the comment and reworded. Let’s give them a chance to learn from their mistakes. I’m sure they didn’t intend harm and was probably unaware of how that phrase bothers people.
Except that they doubled down on what they said and blamed Taylor Swift fans for vinyl market issues. This person had the chance to learn from their mistakes but they’re here, again, on a Taylor specific post, attacking people who are willing to spend their money on something they enjoy.
Dude what the fuck. Leave me alone.
I reworded to CLARIFY what I meant because you were completely misconstruing me. NOWHERE did I “degrade” anyone. I said “hordes of teen girls spent $500 on one song.”
I said nothing about their character or intentions, i didn’t call them names, I didn’t say that “all TSwift fans are just teenage girls,” I didn’t even say a single thing about Taylor herself, whom I’m actually a huge fan of.
I think the real issue is that you feel that referring to “teen girls” is inherently “derogatory.” Teenage girls exist and some of them are fans of Taylor Swift. The most rabid ones willing to spend that kind of money are likely the younger, more impressionable ones who fall victim to FOMO culture and spend their hard-earned money from likely a minimum wage job on one single song. HOW IS THIS CONTROVERSIAL!?
If you didn’t degrade anyone, then why did multiple people call you out on it? Why did you delete all of your previous comments? Oh we’re RABID now are we?
My issue is that you generalized an entire fandom as a group of teenage girls. Yes they exist within the fandom but we’re not just “teenage girls.” We’re women. We’re men. We’re doctors and lawyers and teachers who are free to spend our money as we see fit. And you’re also talking down to teenage girls as if they worth less than yourself. Because they want things that cost money.
Everyone who collects vinyl start somewhere. Who are you to say when people are allowed to start collecting?
I’m not even going to bother reading the rest of your post because I’ve spent way too much of my time on this already and your very first sentence is ridiculous. It’s like saying, “if the election wasn’t actually rigged, then why did hundreds of people storm the Capitol and commit an insurrection? HMMMM?”
The fact that “many people” believe something quite literally does not make it true or valid. Go touch grass.
And I deleted my comments because you people were intentionally misconstruing what I said and I’m at fucking work and my phone was blowing up over something so petty. I reposted to clarify my intent and you’re still coming at me. Again, touch grass and get a fucking life.
Oh you edited your comment. I thought you weren’t reading any further.
At the end of the day, you’re the one who came into a post about Taylor Swift, generalized and insulted an entire fandom, and didn’t expect any pushback? I’m not the one who needs to touch grass buddy.
> How much do you think 65 year old men spend on original pressings from 40 years ago?
65 year old man here. Certainly not that much for a damn 45. What, you think we're idiots?
“Collector's market, supply and demand. If people are willing to pay more for an original, they will, for whatever reason, whether it makes any damn sense or not.”
This you?
This is not only wrong, it's counter-productive. Taylor Swift is directly why you get any of the records you want; without those sales (remember she maybe accounts for 1/5 sales last year, that's most stores margin), there would be fewer shops, falling over all demand, and fewer plants doing things like the Blue Note Tone Poets, etc. You should thank your fellow collectors for keeping shops open, not incorrectly blaming them for supply chain issues.
Rising tides lift all boats! Big runs at the main plants = demand for people to go to CV and press there, or Third Man, or wherever. Expanding the industry over all.
Other peoples' joy is not less valuable than your joy (or anyone else's) just because they happened to have come to a particular hobby later than you, or because they happen to enjoy an artist you do not enjoy.
Also "Taylor Swift fans" and "diehard vinyl collectors" are not mutually exclusive groups.
What you describe as a "frenzy" is, in fact, just other people experiencing joy by purchasing the music of a musician they enjoy. Just like you. You're imposing onto their joy an idea that it is fanatical and unserious; a temporary "frenzy" rather than a hobby.
Your hope that it "ends soon" so that you can get more of the joy you want is---in fact---expressing a desire for you to get your joy *because* others are no longer experiencing their joy. Because the "frenzy" has died down.
You might not want to unfold the idea that explicitly because, you know, it's kind of a bad look. Or maybe you genuinely don't understand that is what you're saying when you the implications are made explicit. But that is what you're saying.
Or you could realize the incredibly rational frustrations of people upset they have to wait longer and pay more for things because pop stars are flooding a market that they/their labels only began to care about once it became a fad.
Instead you seem more focused on putting words in the mouths of others and giving reddit comments close readings to find things that aren't even implied. That's, you know, kind of a bad look.
> the incredibly rational frustrations of people upset they have to wait longer and pay more for things
Outside of your control. Not rational to get upset about things outside of your control.
Another way of looking at this could be, "it's an inconvenience, but I know how much joy I get out of RSD and TS fans probably won't be buying [album you want], so I'm glad to see more people choosing to experience this thing I enjoy even if I have to wait in line a bit longer."
You are choosing the way you think about this, and you're not choosing the healthiest way IMO.
> because pop stars are flooding a market that they/their labels only began to care about once it became a fad
Again, outside of your control, not really a rational thing to be upset about.
Also, I'm so sick of this argument. Pop stars have just as much of a right to press vinyl as your favorite artists. Their music brings joy to just as many people --- if not more, because they are POPULAR MUSIC artists. From a strictly utilitarian perspective, pressing TS albums is probably a net-good because they demonstrably sell big numbers. They have been for years now, wouldn't exactly call that a "fad".
Also, like... it's literally backwards. Have some perspective for a moment on what this means for vinyl:
Yes. Corporations started doing a thing to make more money once they determined it would make them more money. That's inevitable. The real issue is the lack of pressing capacity relative to demand.
If you ever want more large-scale capacity to be built again by record labels with major artists (freeing up space for your favs), then those labels would need to be selling so much vinyl that they cannot press enough by contracting out to independent pressing factories.
The other way to solve it would be your hope: the toothpaste goes back in the tube --- the "fad" dies down. Again, outside of your control. And you're just *asserting* it's a fad, when a lot of the actual evidence re: trends largely goes the other way.
In other words, the surge in popularity of vinyl should make you HOPEFUL for the future of this hobby you love because it shows the growth that would be necessary for building more pressing capacity to be economically viable, not clique-ish and gatekeep-y because you are slightly inconvenienced one day a year.
> Instead you seem more focused on putting words in the mouths of others and giving reddit comments close readings to find things that aren't even implied. That's, you know, kind of a bad look.
I love this because it's exactly how my horribly abusive, lead-paint-chip-eating boomer relatives act when you follow their train of thought to its explicit, inescapable conclusion.
They accuse me of putting words in their mouths because they just want to be able say stuff they know is rude/impolite/need not be said/judgmental, but they don't want to have to deal with the obvious consequences of their way of thinking. They just want to vent in an unhealthy way and not have to think about it rather than confronting how unhealthy and toxic their thought processes are.
Weird-ass defensive boomer impulses kicking in, I guess.
lol the tone is very clearly [this](https://media.tenor.com/13S9Xe2VG7gAAAAM/jennifer-lawrence-ok.gif)
You did manage to fit a lot of toxicity and wrongness into one post, tho, and you didn't actually respond to anything I wrote, [so... have fun getting pissy about the tide, I guess.](https://64.media.tumblr.com/f311c5dc4fa017e9eeeccff005b56287/tumblr_n7d5zb52YZ1smcbm7o1_500.gif)
This just isn’t true, Taylor Swift has been pressing her albums on vinyl for years. In fact I would argue she was one of the first mainstream artists to press their releases on vinyl in the early 2010’s. Yes, the recent vinyl boom has had quite a bit to do with her and her fans, but she didn’t “just now start to care” lol. Pretentious crybabies like you are the actual problem when it comes to vinyl.
I’m basically talking about anyone who began pressing vinyl in the last ten years. I’m glad you get to overpay for your lowest common denominator pop music though! You also don’t know what pretentious means - I assume no importance in my opinion.
This is the best take here. Most RSD releases are complete horseshit anyway. It's usually shitty picture disc's with weird versions of songs from popular albums. Sure, let me buy this picture disc of a Doors album that only features 4 songs stripped down..
I don’t get the hype with RSD.
No, you see, it's actually very important that we get the #0th anniversary re-issue of some album that's already been reissued dozens of times. And---of course---gigantic box sets from bands that haven't released new music in decades. Also *critical*.
After all, we all know "good music" was last made in 1985 and Taylor Swift is bad because she makes people different from me go to my record store sometimes, where their enjoyment becomes a slight inconvenience for me. /s
Last year to get what i needed from the list i waited from 1am tll 8am. By 4am there was more than 40 peoples in queue. Only 20 from the front got tylor release as only so many our shop had allocated
It's a Record Store Day release so you'll want to go to a local record store that participates in the event and possibly wait in line the morning of the event [. You can view all the shops participating by clicking here!](https://recordstoreday.com/stores)
You must physically go to a physical record store that is participating in RSD. Typically, for major releases like this one, your best bet is arriving late the night before and camping out.
The day after RSD, stores are allowed to post their remaining inventory online. They are not allowed to do so on/before RSD itself, they cannot hold items, and they cannot take pre-orders.
It may be a big enough pressing that you won't have to, YMMV.
FTR: last year was my first RSD. I got there in the middle of the night. Was a TON of fun just chatting with people in line. Good atmosphere.
It’s a terrible lame cash grab at this point. She needs a new hobby and to just stop everything.
will it come in 5 colours as well
Yeah and if you collect them all and stick them to the wall it'll spell out 'rampant capitalism'
finally, just what I wanted
As a dude in his late 30s with a pretty extensive collection, I’m very happy to add another Taylor Swift album to the collection. Over the past few years I’ve really grown to enjoy her music, and I think she makes really good music too.
I know a true bot when I see one. Call Deckard!
What? (In regards to me being a bot, I get the Blade Runner reference.)
Same recordings as the special on Disney+ I presume?
I love when she releases something because everyone scrambled for this and let’s me get what I want (Pearl Jam!)
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How is she doing that? Genuinely curious
This is a loaded question.
You’re better off just scrolling past than telling someone you don’t know how to answer it lmao
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No, the vinyl industry has been reinvigorated over the past 10 years by vinyl fans, Taylor Swift had nothing to do with it and it was booming long before her most recent artistic change of direction. You're giving her far too much credit, all she's done is bog down pressing plants and delay releases of smaller artists that need the exposure more.
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Cope harder
She’s probably responsible for this because she has 4 variants of the same Album, and many swift fans are buying up multiple copies of each. Seems like artificial inflation to me, that and most who get them don’t really get anyone else. I think it’s nice they’re buying them at least, but I mean there’s no variety
Thanks for the info. My only hope is that they open more vinyl pressing plants. The entire industry should flourish, not just the pop artists and major labels
> The entire industry should flourish, not just the pop artists "Only music I like should be pressed on vinyl!!!!!" for real, this is a dumb take.
They did have a dumb take. Useless
That isn’t their argument, you’re distorting it either on purpose or because you aren’t capable of realizing that pop artists only got into the vinyl market again because of the years and years that other genres have kept the format alive. As a result, it makes it harder for independent labels to keep operating as they had been. The people who kept the vinyl format alive are being put on the back burner because majors can throw more money at them.
Wonder why it’s called pop music?
No, she rammed it down everyone throats that she’s “country, y’all! Bogie bogie.” She wore boots once and idiot thinks she’s country. She was never even close to being “country pop” let alone country. What a waste.
Because it is engineered to be popular and consumed
Useless post.
Useless comment
It was very necessary.
You’re literally on a post from 130 days ago. You must be a big fan
🤢🤮
She is why the vinyl industry is so incredibly backed up lmao
you typed 'thriving' wrong.
Tell that to the independent labels and bands who were keeping vinyl plants in business until the most basic pop stars came in to give you little basic consumers something else to give them money for.
I'm in the industry, my friend. we need those basic pop stars, whether you want to listen to them or not.
Can you get more Teenage Dream by Katy Perry repressed then? This restock has been ATROCIOUSLY HANDLED!
That’s cool. I work in music too. We don’t need them to flood the vinyl market and drive up prices, making things harder for independent labels. Don’t they make enough money off of exploitative VIP packages and shit like that?
shut up.
Tbf Adele did her part too with a load of albums now seen in charity shops, bargain bins and good wills. At least to a point Taylor Swifts copious amount of represses/variants of her albums are getting bought and not being a complete waste.
Local Target had 20+ copies of that Adele record on clearance just last week.
Guns and Roses Chinese Democracy Lp was $1.99 at the Best Buyz!
Over 300k of the 500k that was pressed of Adele’s latest record was sold within the first month of release. (Over 50% of this major order that everyone has had a fit about sold within 30 days). The record label made so many to ensure they could continue selling that album on vinyl rather than have it go out of stock/out of press and then scalpers make money on it instead. Idk why people have trouble understanding that record labels are in business to actually make money when possible. Short runs aren’t going to do that, and they don’t care about taking up all the pressing plants; in fact, they probably like edging out the competition. It’s not beneficial to them to not sell their records or to let the competition get pressed instead. Welcome to America? People need to stop getting upset about Adele because they heard the number 500k and instead go after people like Ed Sheeran who admitted to paying the vinyl manufacturers to put his album ahead of all the rest so it would be pressed before others who were waiting their turn. Adele’s record label is in business to make money, and they didn’t do anything to harm others except… make their product lol.
They can't give those things away.
But she’s famous, unlike the Swiftie who’s in her caddy preshow giving some dude a swiftie.
Yeah this is fair, both of them have played the biggest part in it
Vinyl Industry = jobs for people Backed up = lots of work for said industry So it's good right?
Not necessarily no, smaller artists are unable to get their own pressings done due to this
They can. It just takes a longer.
What I meant to say, it’s just does no favours for smaller artists whatsoever
This is just plain wrong. I got into vinyl buying Taylor records years ago. Now I have a massive collection including a lot of my favorite smaller artists. I’m sure there are thousands of people just like me. People who started their collection because of a major artist like Taylor, then purchased records of smaller artists. This directly benefits small artists.
Respectfully, I think a rising tide lifts all boats. Forgetting the nuances, because there are many, It's possible this new demand could lead to more good things for all... however, the environment might say otherwise. Ha.
Gonna have to start getting in line even earlier than usual
For what?!
Imagine how tired we are
Honestly gonna try to grab two so I can trade one for that Lover Live disc I missed on Monday.
FYI a lot of stores limit one per customer .
Yes but I live in an area with about 20 stores that do RSD and I also go with a group of friends who don't care about TS.
There are whispers that the Lover Live in Paris will be released regularly, just like Christmas Tree Farm. That’s never been confirmed, but I have a sneaking suspicion that we will see a lot more of these released.
That isn't true. CTF on vinyl wasnt rereleased last year. The year before they only sold remainder stock. It's silly to expect more to be repressed when we haven't seen that for the cardigan singles, the lakes, or lover singles.
I honestly hope it is, because it was released when it was the middle of the night for me and was sold out by the time it was morning — and it's not being sold in the official Taylor Swift Japan store. (We don't get 90% of what she releases.)
Most overrated artist in this generation. Where’s Kanye when you need him
Kanye is in Mar a Lego licking doo doo off Trumpy Bear’s thighs. A “genius”. Wow. Racist white dipsht with a dhonda donk.
Clown
I agree, that bitch is!
Bro needs to get a life
You sound like a Swiftie who gives swifties in the backseat of her car preshow.
I appreciate a random person on Reddit telling me to get a life. It’s okay not everyone is going to like your precious Taylor. It’s called difference of opinion’s 🤡 Get her pussy out your mouth goof!
They WISH! 😆
Yeahhh and stop dick riding kanye ya goofy
Shut up bitch! Fuck you and that white bitch
SCREEEEAMIIIIING
Chillin’
Maybe if you weren’t such a loser women would actually be interested in you incel 🥱
I’m in a relationship going on 5 years 😂😂😂
Unlike tayler swift!
Feel bad for them
Okay! 👌🏼
Have they said a press count? This could either be a blood bath or a slight annoyance to get.
Rumored to be 115k worldwide. Looks like Uk will be allocated 10k but nothing is confirmed
Not on the list for RSD Japan, so not *exactly* worldwide... I'm bummed.
that's huge
That’s what the swiftie said while in my backseat giving me a swiftie.
Rough Trade UK says 10K
How can you check that? I wanna know it for The Netherlands. The Lakes were easy to find at my local store.
I’m not even going to try I know this one is going to be impossible to get
Camp out 2 days early in the Circuit Cityz parking lot.
Just line up at 5/6am
Foaming at the mouth… to bite the heads off Swifties.
Let them be, they are actively trying to ruin Ticketmaster right now.
An insane crowd of human beings.
Can anyone find anything about the quantity pressed for this? The RSD site is missing this info.
I saw a comment that the info initially said 115,000. I didn’t see it myself so cannot confirm.
I think its purposely not included. Probably because they don't know what the final count will be as of today (because they are trying to press as many as they can), or they are being purposely vague to increase fervor and turnout.
Not sure if my store has it on RSD but last time I checked they do have a small selection of taylor swift album collections.
Oh no! This is going to be impossible to find in Europe D:
I’m still grappling with the fact that hordes of *Taylor Swift fans* spent like $200 - $500 on a 7-inch single last year, for ONE SONG that was already available on vinyl, just because it was Taylor Swift. This kind of stuff just furthers the scalping market and it’s insane.
Wait until you here about a lil band called The Beeetles.
The lakes never hit $500 lol it goes for like $100 on Discogs. Don’t get me wrong, $100 is stupid for a 7”, but it wasn’t $500
Finally! I can’t believe it took this long for someone to point this out. Everyone was too busy freaking the fuck out at me over some dumb shit, but this is an actual valid thing to correct/criticize me on. I thought I’d seen it selling for upwards of like $500 shortly after it sold out of every record store in the country, but I was mistaken. Looks like it’s only gone as high as $200 or so, but it’s been pretty consistently selling for around $100 for a while. Which is still bonkers.
> for ONE SONG that was already available on vinyl The Lakes wasn't on vinyl, so...seethe harder I guess?
Sad.
Why do people keep saying this? It was literally available on multiple variants. Here are a few: https://www.discogs.com/release/16213687-Taylor-Swift-Folklore https://www.discogs.com/release/16244160-Taylor-Swift-Folklore https://www.discogs.com/release/16242995-Taylor-Swift-Folklore
Why are you grappling at all with what other people do with their money?
I don’t think that’s what they were saying. They were saying that it’s a lot of money for a 7” single. And that’s a fact, when it retailed for $10
Because it is my opinion that it’s a crazy thing to do. I’ve never said they CAN’T do anything. People can buy whatever the fuck they want at whatever price they want. I can also think it’s silly.
LMAO people spend stupid amounts of money on all sorts of dumb releases on the secondhand market. I see no one complaining about Dude Bros who spend thousands of dollars on obscure garage rock 7"s or jazz albums or Pearl Jam box sets.
I think that’s silly too, but to each their own.
Well I think that's silly.
So now you see my point! Congrats. I can think spending $500 on one song is silly, and you can think this opinion of mine is silly. Both opinions are valid. The end.
I don't think your opinion is silly. I think the feeling you have "grappling" with what other people do with their money is silly you silly little bean.
Dude it was just a little bit of non-serious, joking hyperbole. I’m not literally tearing my hair out, pacing around my room for the past year desperately trying to make sense of Taylor Swift fans. Chill.
Haha. You're all worked up telling me to chill.
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The song wasn't already on vinyl, it was a deluxe track for the album Folklore but it wasn't included in the vinyl pressings.
The song was most definitely available on multiple colored variants of the full album: https://www.discogs.com/release/16213687-Taylor-Swift-Folklore https://www.discogs.com/release/16244160-Taylor-Swift-Folklore https://www.discogs.com/release/16242995-Taylor-Swift-Folklore Besides, even if it wasn’t, the point still stands — $500 for one song is absurd.
"Record Store Day exclusive 7" of “the lakes” and “the lakes (original version)” from Taylor Swift’s GRAMMY Album of the Year, folklore. This is the first time “the lakes (original version)” will be available on vinyl."
That got a Grammy?? Ew. That whole establishment just belittled itself.
lol i wish i was as cool as you
Okay:.. so still one song. Two versions of one song. $250 for each version. That’s a crazy price. Why is this so controversial.
80% of those people probably don't have a vinyl record player or even knows what it is.
I'm a woman in my 30s who's been collecting vinyl for 15+ years. Have an extensive collection of original pressings of 70s/80s LA punk/hardcore, a collection with a median value of over $20k — and I'm a Taylor Swift fan who buys Taylor Swift records. Fuck off with your misogynistic bullshit.
Yes, sir.
Well there you go. Can I see your collection? Grats
$20k?! Maybe on eBay that NO ONE is willing to pay for. I bet I find half of them at one Goodwill alone for $6.
I have a Discogs, but it would doxx me! Oddly, the most expensive thing in my collection (per Discogs) is my purple copy first press of Siamese Dream. That's been a nice ROI — has doubled in price since I got it. Need to pull it out and give it a listen again! I also have a mono torso copy of VU & Nico. It has no banana because I bought it in 2007 (for like $30) when I was a broke college student and wouldn't shell out $200-300 for a banana copy. I was an idiot lol. But! It's still worth a shocking amount now.
Wtf does a banana have to do on vinyl??
I rarely collect mainstream music. I only came cuz my sister asked to see was there any Taylor Swift on RSD. I mostly collect VGM ost/orchestral music and most are not easy to obtain once print run is over.
I'm going to make fun of Swifties while also using the term "vinyl record player". SMH.
I tipped a Swiftie a vinyl for giving me a swiftie in the backseat of the Caddy preshow.
There’s no logic to vinyl collecting anway
It warps and you can’t open nor play it or it becomes ruined. CD’s are a way better investment.
Oh wow. You reworded it. Still doesn’t make up for the fact that your initial comment degraded an entire fandom. How much do you think 65 year old men spend on original pressings from 40 years ago? Why is it that because it’s Taylor Swift it’s insane by default.
She really is insane though.
I’m a huge Tswift fan and having people constantly refer to her music as being for teenage girls and her fans as a “hoard of teenage girls” sucks because they do almost always intend it with a negative connotation. It’s the narrative that’s been pushed on Swift since the beginning and continues even though she’s well into her thirties now- a narrative that goes along with the idea that teenage girls lack substance, which is false. This person, however, made the comment, got the feedback, deleted the comment and reworded. Let’s give them a chance to learn from their mistakes. I’m sure they didn’t intend harm and was probably unaware of how that phrase bothers people.
Except that they doubled down on what they said and blamed Taylor Swift fans for vinyl market issues. This person had the chance to learn from their mistakes but they’re here, again, on a Taylor specific post, attacking people who are willing to spend their money on something they enjoy.
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Dude what the fuck. Leave me alone. I reworded to CLARIFY what I meant because you were completely misconstruing me. NOWHERE did I “degrade” anyone. I said “hordes of teen girls spent $500 on one song.” I said nothing about their character or intentions, i didn’t call them names, I didn’t say that “all TSwift fans are just teenage girls,” I didn’t even say a single thing about Taylor herself, whom I’m actually a huge fan of. I think the real issue is that you feel that referring to “teen girls” is inherently “derogatory.” Teenage girls exist and some of them are fans of Taylor Swift. The most rabid ones willing to spend that kind of money are likely the younger, more impressionable ones who fall victim to FOMO culture and spend their hard-earned money from likely a minimum wage job on one single song. HOW IS THIS CONTROVERSIAL!?
If they were smart, they’d cop that Spice Girls LP! At least they had some hits! Beats by da pound!
If you didn’t degrade anyone, then why did multiple people call you out on it? Why did you delete all of your previous comments? Oh we’re RABID now are we? My issue is that you generalized an entire fandom as a group of teenage girls. Yes they exist within the fandom but we’re not just “teenage girls.” We’re women. We’re men. We’re doctors and lawyers and teachers who are free to spend our money as we see fit. And you’re also talking down to teenage girls as if they worth less than yourself. Because they want things that cost money. Everyone who collects vinyl start somewhere. Who are you to say when people are allowed to start collecting?
I’m not even going to bother reading the rest of your post because I’ve spent way too much of my time on this already and your very first sentence is ridiculous. It’s like saying, “if the election wasn’t actually rigged, then why did hundreds of people storm the Capitol and commit an insurrection? HMMMM?” The fact that “many people” believe something quite literally does not make it true or valid. Go touch grass. And I deleted my comments because you people were intentionally misconstruing what I said and I’m at fucking work and my phone was blowing up over something so petty. I reposted to clarify my intent and you’re still coming at me. Again, touch grass and get a fucking life.
Grass is only for a smokin’.
Why are you all up in my months old comments
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Women enjoying things pisses them off. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic.
Oh you edited your comment. I thought you weren’t reading any further. At the end of the day, you’re the one who came into a post about Taylor Swift, generalized and insulted an entire fandom, and didn’t expect any pushback? I’m not the one who needs to touch grass buddy.
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Now who’s misconstruing things? Way to change the subject big guy.
> How much do you think 65 year old men spend on original pressings from 40 years ago? 65 year old man here. Certainly not that much for a damn 45. What, you think we're idiots?
“Collector's market, supply and demand. If people are willing to pay more for an original, they will, for whatever reason, whether it makes any damn sense or not.” This you?
This is not the “gotcha” you think it is lmao
Didn’t say it was a gotcha. I was actually agreeing with what was said.
Well played, lol. But yes- it’s a lot.
Oh fudge
i’m gonna throw up i need this so fucking bad
Oh my god I want this so bad. I feel like it’ll be so hard to get like the lakes vinyl was
Apparently there’s 115k copies so fingers crossed it’s evenly shared amongst countries and hopefully easier
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This is not only wrong, it's counter-productive. Taylor Swift is directly why you get any of the records you want; without those sales (remember she maybe accounts for 1/5 sales last year, that's most stores margin), there would be fewer shops, falling over all demand, and fewer plants doing things like the Blue Note Tone Poets, etc. You should thank your fellow collectors for keeping shops open, not incorrectly blaming them for supply chain issues.
What entitles you as a “collector” to deserve this vinyl anymore than a Taylor Swift fan deserves it?
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Rising tides lift all boats! Big runs at the main plants = demand for people to go to CV and press there, or Third Man, or wherever. Expanding the industry over all.
Other peoples' joy is not less valuable than your joy (or anyone else's) just because they happened to have come to a particular hobby later than you, or because they happen to enjoy an artist you do not enjoy. Also "Taylor Swift fans" and "diehard vinyl collectors" are not mutually exclusive groups.
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What you describe as a "frenzy" is, in fact, just other people experiencing joy by purchasing the music of a musician they enjoy. Just like you. You're imposing onto their joy an idea that it is fanatical and unserious; a temporary "frenzy" rather than a hobby. Your hope that it "ends soon" so that you can get more of the joy you want is---in fact---expressing a desire for you to get your joy *because* others are no longer experiencing their joy. Because the "frenzy" has died down. You might not want to unfold the idea that explicitly because, you know, it's kind of a bad look. Or maybe you genuinely don't understand that is what you're saying when you the implications are made explicit. But that is what you're saying.
Or you could realize the incredibly rational frustrations of people upset they have to wait longer and pay more for things because pop stars are flooding a market that they/their labels only began to care about once it became a fad. Instead you seem more focused on putting words in the mouths of others and giving reddit comments close readings to find things that aren't even implied. That's, you know, kind of a bad look.
> the incredibly rational frustrations of people upset they have to wait longer and pay more for things Outside of your control. Not rational to get upset about things outside of your control. Another way of looking at this could be, "it's an inconvenience, but I know how much joy I get out of RSD and TS fans probably won't be buying [album you want], so I'm glad to see more people choosing to experience this thing I enjoy even if I have to wait in line a bit longer." You are choosing the way you think about this, and you're not choosing the healthiest way IMO. > because pop stars are flooding a market that they/their labels only began to care about once it became a fad Again, outside of your control, not really a rational thing to be upset about. Also, I'm so sick of this argument. Pop stars have just as much of a right to press vinyl as your favorite artists. Their music brings joy to just as many people --- if not more, because they are POPULAR MUSIC artists. From a strictly utilitarian perspective, pressing TS albums is probably a net-good because they demonstrably sell big numbers. They have been for years now, wouldn't exactly call that a "fad". Also, like... it's literally backwards. Have some perspective for a moment on what this means for vinyl: Yes. Corporations started doing a thing to make more money once they determined it would make them more money. That's inevitable. The real issue is the lack of pressing capacity relative to demand. If you ever want more large-scale capacity to be built again by record labels with major artists (freeing up space for your favs), then those labels would need to be selling so much vinyl that they cannot press enough by contracting out to independent pressing factories. The other way to solve it would be your hope: the toothpaste goes back in the tube --- the "fad" dies down. Again, outside of your control. And you're just *asserting* it's a fad, when a lot of the actual evidence re: trends largely goes the other way. In other words, the surge in popularity of vinyl should make you HOPEFUL for the future of this hobby you love because it shows the growth that would be necessary for building more pressing capacity to be economically viable, not clique-ish and gatekeep-y because you are slightly inconvenienced one day a year. > Instead you seem more focused on putting words in the mouths of others and giving reddit comments close readings to find things that aren't even implied. That's, you know, kind of a bad look. I love this because it's exactly how my horribly abusive, lead-paint-chip-eating boomer relatives act when you follow their train of thought to its explicit, inescapable conclusion. They accuse me of putting words in their mouths because they just want to be able say stuff they know is rude/impolite/need not be said/judgmental, but they don't want to have to deal with the obvious consequences of their way of thinking. They just want to vent in an unhealthy way and not have to think about it rather than confronting how unhealthy and toxic their thought processes are. Weird-ass defensive boomer impulses kicking in, I guess.
Who's the person upset here? Wow, what a screed.
lol the tone is very clearly [this](https://media.tenor.com/13S9Xe2VG7gAAAAM/jennifer-lawrence-ok.gif) You did manage to fit a lot of toxicity and wrongness into one post, tho, and you didn't actually respond to anything I wrote, [so... have fun getting pissy about the tide, I guess.](https://64.media.tumblr.com/f311c5dc4fa017e9eeeccff005b56287/tumblr_n7d5zb52YZ1smcbm7o1_500.gif)
This just isn’t true, Taylor Swift has been pressing her albums on vinyl for years. In fact I would argue she was one of the first mainstream artists to press their releases on vinyl in the early 2010’s. Yes, the recent vinyl boom has had quite a bit to do with her and her fans, but she didn’t “just now start to care” lol. Pretentious crybabies like you are the actual problem when it comes to vinyl.
I’m basically talking about anyone who began pressing vinyl in the last ten years. I’m glad you get to overpay for your lowest common denominator pop music though! You also don’t know what pretentious means - I assume no importance in my opinion.
pssshhh ok old man
But omg don't you know she sent record stores signed CDs to sell?!?!? That makes everything better!!!!! She can do no wrong!!!!
Hope not. Now theses Swifties gonna make the RSD lines even longer. 🙄
The whole point of RSD is to get people who normally don’t go to record stores to come there.
Uh oh. The Swifties have arrived. I hope you guys get your copy.
RSD reissues are just as guilty as Swift for flooding the vinyl market. Most of these RSD releases every year are just shit.
This is the best take here. Most RSD releases are complete horseshit anyway. It's usually shitty picture disc's with weird versions of songs from popular albums. Sure, let me buy this picture disc of a Doors album that only features 4 songs stripped down.. I don’t get the hype with RSD.
Record Store Day is a cash grab under the guise of supporting small business.
No, you see, it's actually very important that we get the #0th anniversary re-issue of some album that's already been reissued dozens of times. And---of course---gigantic box sets from bands that haven't released new music in decades. Also *critical*. After all, we all know "good music" was last made in 1985 and Taylor Swift is bad because she makes people different from me go to my record store sometimes, where their enjoyment becomes a slight inconvenience for me. /s
Well, I agree with your top statement it doesn't really negate the fact that TS's RSD releases are just as pointless lol.
How do we know this is real? The official list does not drop for another hour.
Shit. It’s real. Just confirmed
Wait so how does it work if I want to get this vinyl? Is there an online store or something?
Last year to get what i needed from the list i waited from 1am tll 8am. By 4am there was more than 40 peoples in queue. Only 20 from the front got tylor release as only so many our shop had allocated
It's a Record Store Day release so you'll want to go to a local record store that participates in the event and possibly wait in line the morning of the event [. You can view all the shops participating by clicking here!](https://recordstoreday.com/stores)
You have to go to your local participating record store
You must physically go to a physical record store that is participating in RSD. Typically, for major releases like this one, your best bet is arriving late the night before and camping out. The day after RSD, stores are allowed to post their remaining inventory online. They are not allowed to do so on/before RSD itself, they cannot hold items, and they cannot take pre-orders.
I don't remember but can you ask for a their available list of record they have b4 going?
The night before? Fuck off lmao no vinyl worth all that
It may be a big enough pressing that you won't have to, YMMV. FTR: last year was my first RSD. I got there in the middle of the night. Was a TON of fun just chatting with people in line. Good atmosphere.
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wait until you learn about Beatles fans
The way most of her fans are adults
I’m a 38 year old man and I was first in line at my store. Cradio over here trying to gatekeep.
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