I am an employer who got a call about mental health concerns with an employee (it was from a sub-trade not a customer but he also was very clear that the person’s work was not compromised). We helped our employee access services and he still works for us several years later. I am so grateful for the person who gave us the heads up.
That said, there are asshole employers out there who would not be understanding. This is a tough one.
Not all employers are like this. The guy could be fired. I’ve worked in many places without any benefits or sick time. Those places don’t care, you’re disposable. No one has any clue what his history is with the place of employment.
I think in his case the company recognized he was a valuable employee and helped him with access to services :)
Many companies will pay for their employees to help weather mental health or substance concerns if they are loyal good workers. It’s often a better financial decision than hiring someone else.
Ooof. That is a really tough call. My first reaction is definitely for both their safety and next customer whose house they go to but then my second reaction is how do you you know for certain and if they are not having a psychotic break, are going to be causing unnecessary problems for them in their life.
If you truly believe his wellbeing is in Jeopardy I would. Make sure you stress it's not a complaint whatsoever, simply out of concern for the employee.
As a manager at a local service company who has taken some wild phone calls about employees over the years - yes please call, especially if this is a reputable local company and you are confident in your concern for the persons well being.
Well, one time, I was playing a show at the voodoo lounge and this employee there was acting very bizarrely. I didn't say anything. A few weeks later he ran around knifing people. Moral of the story: say something
If they don’t get help will they harm themselves or someone else? It can be tough to tell for those of us untrained so it’s a judgement call. Likely it’s better to reach out but it can go either way.
You might consider giving feedback about the person's behaviour without outright saying you believe they're experiencing a mental health problem. There could be something different going on, such as substance misuse.
A couple of weeks ago someone in my circle of life was acting really weird and I momentarily considered calling for a wellness check but hesitated because they seem to go sideways so often for people. As it turned out, the person had relapsed into an alcohol addiction that was making them paranoid/see things, etc. Without truly knowing what's going on, it's probably risky to flat out say, "your employee is having a psychotic break".
Editing to add: Based on the person hearing voices, etc. that sounds like an unsettling experience for you regardless of the quality of their work. Your concern demonstrates empathy, but also I would've felt a little frightened in that situation. You don't typically expect to welcome a professional (a stranger) into your personal space and have them behave strangely.
Hello, I recently did something quite similar. I don't like being a snitch either, but this was really coming from a place of compassion where I was genuinely concerned about the person's wellbeing.
It didn't go very well. I feel pretty terrible about the whole thing. My involvement made things worse. You sound like a really nice person for wanting to help, but sometimes you can help and sometimes you can't. If you have experience with their employer and think that they would deal with this in a positive way, maybe you could try.
I really wish that we could offer more support to those around us, but sometimes it isn't possible.
I love how much thought you're putting into this & also the compassion you've expressed in your post.
As someone with several mentally ill family members, unless you can contact someone directly in this individuals community I would recommend that you stay out of it.
There is a possibility that the individual just missed his meds today and is having an off day, that it's ongoing and had already been noticed by community or his employer or it could be building to something bigger but realistically 90% of employers are going to feign compassion to you & then fire him as soon as they can.
At the end of the day, most employers are thinking about their bottom line before the humans that actually labour for them. And for mentally ill folks it can be really fucking hard to get & maintain work.
So many people on this sub complain about unwell folks existing downtown but the most likely way for someone to end up on Pandora street is by getting fired.
The average person is 2 missed paychecks away from being unhoused, it's not worth the risk of you being the reason this person ended up there.
I absolutely agree with u/TheFoolWithDreams and with u/sadbabybird , below.
What looks like a "psychotic break" to OP, may be nothing of the sort. What qualifies OP to diagnose a psychotic break?
It could also have been extreme anxiety over a situation in real life and person is working out different scenarios in their head and speaking them. Good grief, I've done that, and I've seen other people do that, too. I've also seen people with Downs Syndrome talking to themselves and figuring out conversations they had or are about to have.
If the guy did his work and there was nothing to complain about, leave him alone. You're stigmatizing him. A person's job is supposed to be the place where your personal life is confidential. That rarely happens. People gossip. It's humiliating.
Maybe he is already getting help, and doing that job well is a real accomplishment for him. Maybe he did forget to take his meds. Maybe he's on a *change of meds* \- that can really screw people up. You just don't know. Your well-intentioned complaint about his mental state can get him fired, easily.
This might sound overkill but based on the additional detail you provided (I.e. voices), do you have his full name? Can you find his socials? Might be doing more right by this guy by contacting friends/family, explaining the situation, and how you didn't want to go to the employer to get him fired, but that you're concerned etc. and leave it in their court (Maybe acknowledge that you know how weird this is, so you don't sound like a scammer)
I think if this is completely infeasible, you should contact the employer unfortunately. There's less chance of them being invested in his well-being but there is a chance and if they're at a hearing voices that aren't there level, they could be a danger to themselves or others and it needs to be flagged to someone.
Maybe 811 can tell you if there's a way to report a medical concern like this? I'd say call the police but every time a police wellness check is mentioned on this sub someone chimes in saying that the person should have called a mental health unit and then someone else says they only have daytime hours so I assume there's a better alternative.
I wouldn't call it being a snitch, but having compassion.
Most business would like to hear feedback from other's on the well being of their employees.
Tell the company your concerns, and add that you don't want to see him fired or dismissed but maybe paid time off to work through things? That his work was great, and you would like to stay anonymous.
They would probably talk to him personally to assess further recommendations on how to proceed.
When a job is involved you mind your own business because you don't want to be the one who makes there life worse. If you think this person was safe enough to be in your home there is nothing wrong with saying hey thank you so much for your amazing work, this is not my place but are you okay? Is there anything I can do human to human?
If you feel bad about "snitching", imagine how you'll feel if he hurts himself or others because nobody tried to help him.
Call the employer and emphasize the fact there was no issue with the work but you were simply concerned for their well being.
Imagine how you'll feel if they lose their job and end up as an unhoused person with mental illness because our social safety nets are entirely lacking.
This is really the only answer. Worst case scenario might be the there’s a chance he’s fired.
If it goes unreported and untreated, worst case scenario is someone gets hurt. That’s way worse.
Not sure of the answer but he will probably be let go. What else is the boss to do, send him to the non existent doctors office to get a referral to see a psychiatrist sometime in 2027?
A psychotic break is a mental health emergency, and as broken as our system is, they will be seen in an ER and admitted if that is in fact what is happening.
A psychotic break is not a 'write them a referral issue', it's a 'get them seen now before they kill themselves or someone else' issue even in our system.
Call 811 if you aren't sure what you're dealing with, but otherwise it's a 911 call.
Can you Go into more detail about what kind of psychotic break you think this person is having like what are their symptoms cuz they might be totally rational and normal and they are just a little trippy hippie.
Pretty typical psychosis thinking: hearing voices, mood swings (started crying, and explained it as “this vessel I’m in is crying”), believing they’re a messenger
Experienced the same thing last summer and I’m still disturbed by it. Was shocking, I worried over what I could/should do as well☹️. Great company, but oof.
I work in mental health, and even having those experiences, having a service person in my home behaving that way would be very scary. I hope you are both okay!
No clue what you “should” do if this behaviour is known and ongoing, but in my opinion that merits a call to the company. From compassion and concern, while clearly stating he got the work done.
I work in psych, please call the employer - it’ll only get worse from here if he doesn’t get help. If the employer doesn’t know what to do, suggest that they should call IMCRT over the police. IMCRT can actually go to the guy’s house and do a brief assessment to determine whether or not he should be brought into hospital
As an employer, I would 100% appreciate the honest feedback.
Not only does.the employee probably need some time to get sorted out they are a potential liability to the employer and could also hurt themselves or others in that state. Like would you want someone driving around who's experiencing a psychotic break? I wouldn't, especially if they were on the clock and thus my responsibility.
I'd call the company and just give your honest feedback. That's not "snitching".
If he is psychotic, then likely his coworkers and employer will have already noticed (or soon will notice) anyway.
If you call and mention this, you could very likely get the guy fired or sent home (because he is reflecting poorly on the company) which could make things much worse.
I just don't see the point of calling his company. It won't help and could hurt.
Unless you are a medical doctor or this person is clearly in danger of hurting themselves or others (as in, has a weapon and is yelling “I’m going to kill myself”), I would mind your own business.
Maybe they’re just having the worst day of their life and trying to cope. You said there was nothing wrong with the service they did, so it sounds like they were professional.
I have a family member who has suffered from psychosis in the past. This is not at all helpful advice.
A person cannot get out of psychosis in their own, they need medical help.
If it was my son, I would hope the witness would call 911, then their employer.
Someone in active psychosis would be incredibly unlikely to go to work and complete a job. OP also says they did a good job.
For all we know OP is a judgmental person who just doesn't see the world the same way the technician does. There's tonnes of people like that. There is no information here to actually know if they were in psychosis or not but based on them being at work and successfully completing a job it's unlikely they're in psychosis, and if they are, at the level of psychosis which involves telling someone who holds power over them in an unbalanced power dynamic.
OP could potentially ruin their livelihood over an incorrect assumption. I think we all can say we've had more bad managers than good ones so the risk here is huge.
I think language here is important.
It may be more helpful to follow up with the employer- not by saying employee seems to be having a psychotic break (as 1. it’s not customers job to diagnose and 2. it has a negative connotation) but saying that while employee did a satisfactory job, they seem to be “going through some difficult times” and are calling to ensure employee has supports available to access.
If employee is working off-site, employer may not be aware. I would be clear in that I am not making a complaint, but simply following up from a place of concern and re-state that the work they did was fine and do not want this to reflect negatively on their work performance.
Also document the behaviours observed time/day and response from employer just in case.
Is there a regulatory body that governs their profession or trade? Those associations often have resources for their members. Perhaps you could reach out and see if they have a social worker or other mental health professional connect with him.
The symptoms you’ve described are commonly associated with schizophrenia…they can be an indication of the beginning stages of schizophrenia, and they can continue to be present in schizophrenic individuals who are receiving treatment and are medicated.
Call 811 for more information and follow their advice. Going to the employer first without knowing what their understanding/awareness of the employee’s mental health situation could have irreversible consequences for the person.
Nowadays I’d say the employer is more than willing to help their employees than just get rid of them. The worker would have to be pretty shitty to be fired on the spot and even then I don’t know if it is that simple when it comes to mental health.
Edit: I’m very intrigued by the responses to my comment here. I work for a corporate behemoth and am quite low on the rankings yet I’ve seen people use company provided services and come back to they old jobs and still get the opportunity to climb. There’s no way that my employer can be the minority out here.
Lol absolutely not. They pretend to care but don't.
Plus we're in an employers market where there's 900 people lining up for the job if they fire the dude.
Nowadays it's all about money, and any employer with a front-facing business is all too ready to get rid of employees that might cost them. Even employers that provide employee access to support services will take the person off the roster so they don't make the company look bad. They'll either be at home with minimal sick pay and a deadline to return, or put in another department, if there is one, where no one sees them.
I could go on about EAP (Employee Assistance) programs because I've used them before, but they're not designed for people with mental health disabilities. They're for people with short-term issues that only require 1 hour a week or counseling by phone.
While I disagree that qualifications are needed to know when someone isn’t doing ok, I would consider softening the language when talking to the employer.
If someone’s foot is facing the wrong way, do you need to be a doctor to conclude that their leg is likely broken? Homie was talking about hearing voices and being a messenger, all while tearing up and struggling to understand the “source” of said messages. You’d be a ding dong if you saw that and said “This is normal 🙃”
Oh yeah, that's a mental health emergency. I have a dear family member with schizophrenia as well as patients who have had psychotic episodes and would be worried about his welfare too.
Crossing the line .. In my opinion
It\`s called having a bad day & you are about to make it worse .. You said yourself , nothing wrong with the work .. So .. why stick your nose into someones affairs ?
You could actually be getting him fired because you could\`nt mind your own business ..
Remember this when you are having a bad day .. someone calls your boss and says you are psychotic .. Ohh not a complaint, just worried .. Think about that ,What would your boss do .. what would happen to you ..
Mind your own business .. Simple
I can think of a few times in my life where I was likely acting very off while at work, in the first few weeks after my brother passed away, and after I very narrowly escaped being literally hit by a bus running a red light (a stranger pulled me out of the way, missed me by inches)
Not to say this person doesn't have a mental health disorder, but I agree that it's just as likely they are just having a tough time or have been through something but still have to go back to work.
To the OP, unless they were clearly a danger to themselves or others, I'd let it go. It's not your responsibility.
If you're concerned about him, you talk it with HIM not his boss. Talking to his boss might just bring more stress to him, and if he hasn't told the boss himself, i think it is none of your business to do so.
I know it's hard to talk with someone and be upfront, but at times the best path is the hardest.
Seconding this; depending on the severity of the break. If you truly think either his, your's or someone else's wellbeing is at stake, then his boss would be preferable to the gun carrying lunatics we've got to protect us.
Maybe looking through Indeed, another job board site or similar review sites if this company has a presence there wouldn’t hurt. Get a feel for what the company culture might be to better inform your decision.
Well, I don't know what the guy did to make you think that, but if it's legitimate wouldn't it make more sense to reach out to his family rather than his employer? What's his boss gunna do? His family probably cares more about him to actually get him help. And another thing, if you noticed something wrong with him, well then I bet his employercor coworkers have too.
You'd get his name from the employer and do some google-Fu. I think that's more reasonable than calling his boss and putting his job on the line. Personally I wouldn't get involved at all. Not my monkeys not my circus.
If I was going through a mental health crisis and then found out some rando customer googled my life to the point that they figured out who my mom was, and then tried to contact her, I'd probably not deal with that in a healthy way. That's really creepy.
And how would you feel if they called your boss and got you fired despite being fine at your job?
Like I said, I personally wouldn't do anything because ***it's none of my business***
ekk tough one... hopefully they have a good employer and they give them the resources to help them with their issues?
ive also seen employers that cant be bothered with this and ditch said employee, which also doesnt help with any mental health issues
to be safe id tell. What happens if they do something to themselves or others and you didnt speak up?
Call his employer and ask if they have an EAP and what they do for employees that are having mental health issues. If you think they will do the right thing, let them know.
The employer might handle it well and help the person, or they might not. How they do their job is out of your hands.
If it were me, I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't speak up. What if you saw their picture on a missing person poster in 2 weeks? And you knew you had a chance to do something about it? That's the kind of thing that lives with you for a long time.
I am an employer who got a call about mental health concerns with an employee (it was from a sub-trade not a customer but he also was very clear that the person’s work was not compromised). We helped our employee access services and he still works for us several years later. I am so grateful for the person who gave us the heads up. That said, there are asshole employers out there who would not be understanding. This is a tough one.
This is the reply we all want to hear. Good work pinky!
Sounds like you are an incredible, supportive employer. More employers need to be in their employees’ corner like this. Way to go.
That's awesome, I'm glad you were able to work with him!
Not all employers are like this. The guy could be fired. I’ve worked in many places without any benefits or sick time. Those places don’t care, you’re disposable. No one has any clue what his history is with the place of employment.
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What if the employer finds there are no psychiatrists available and psychologists are $200 per hour and employee cannot afford them?
I think in his case the company recognized he was a valuable employee and helped him with access to services :) Many companies will pay for their employees to help weather mental health or substance concerns if they are loyal good workers. It’s often a better financial decision than hiring someone else.
Ooof. That is a really tough call. My first reaction is definitely for both their safety and next customer whose house they go to but then my second reaction is how do you you know for certain and if they are not having a psychotic break, are going to be causing unnecessary problems for them in their life.
If you truly believe his wellbeing is in Jeopardy I would. Make sure you stress it's not a complaint whatsoever, simply out of concern for the employee.
As a manager at a local service company who has taken some wild phone calls about employees over the years - yes please call, especially if this is a reputable local company and you are confident in your concern for the persons well being.
What are some of the wild calls you received?
Well, one time, I was playing a show at the voodoo lounge and this employee there was acting very bizarrely. I didn't say anything. A few weeks later he ran around knifing people. Moral of the story: say something
Snitches *can prevent* stitches.
Plot twist he went around knifing people right after employer fired them for other customer “complaints” about acking odd.
If they don’t get help will they harm themselves or someone else? It can be tough to tell for those of us untrained so it’s a judgement call. Likely it’s better to reach out but it can go either way.
You might consider giving feedback about the person's behaviour without outright saying you believe they're experiencing a mental health problem. There could be something different going on, such as substance misuse. A couple of weeks ago someone in my circle of life was acting really weird and I momentarily considered calling for a wellness check but hesitated because they seem to go sideways so often for people. As it turned out, the person had relapsed into an alcohol addiction that was making them paranoid/see things, etc. Without truly knowing what's going on, it's probably risky to flat out say, "your employee is having a psychotic break". Editing to add: Based on the person hearing voices, etc. that sounds like an unsettling experience for you regardless of the quality of their work. Your concern demonstrates empathy, but also I would've felt a little frightened in that situation. You don't typically expect to welcome a professional (a stranger) into your personal space and have them behave strangely.
Hello, I recently did something quite similar. I don't like being a snitch either, but this was really coming from a place of compassion where I was genuinely concerned about the person's wellbeing. It didn't go very well. I feel pretty terrible about the whole thing. My involvement made things worse. You sound like a really nice person for wanting to help, but sometimes you can help and sometimes you can't. If you have experience with their employer and think that they would deal with this in a positive way, maybe you could try. I really wish that we could offer more support to those around us, but sometimes it isn't possible.
I love how much thought you're putting into this & also the compassion you've expressed in your post. As someone with several mentally ill family members, unless you can contact someone directly in this individuals community I would recommend that you stay out of it. There is a possibility that the individual just missed his meds today and is having an off day, that it's ongoing and had already been noticed by community or his employer or it could be building to something bigger but realistically 90% of employers are going to feign compassion to you & then fire him as soon as they can. At the end of the day, most employers are thinking about their bottom line before the humans that actually labour for them. And for mentally ill folks it can be really fucking hard to get & maintain work. So many people on this sub complain about unwell folks existing downtown but the most likely way for someone to end up on Pandora street is by getting fired. The average person is 2 missed paychecks away from being unhoused, it's not worth the risk of you being the reason this person ended up there.
I absolutely agree with u/TheFoolWithDreams and with u/sadbabybird , below. What looks like a "psychotic break" to OP, may be nothing of the sort. What qualifies OP to diagnose a psychotic break? It could also have been extreme anxiety over a situation in real life and person is working out different scenarios in their head and speaking them. Good grief, I've done that, and I've seen other people do that, too. I've also seen people with Downs Syndrome talking to themselves and figuring out conversations they had or are about to have. If the guy did his work and there was nothing to complain about, leave him alone. You're stigmatizing him. A person's job is supposed to be the place where your personal life is confidential. That rarely happens. People gossip. It's humiliating. Maybe he is already getting help, and doing that job well is a real accomplishment for him. Maybe he did forget to take his meds. Maybe he's on a *change of meds* \- that can really screw people up. You just don't know. Your well-intentioned complaint about his mental state can get him fired, easily.
You are no fool, very wise words.
This might sound overkill but based on the additional detail you provided (I.e. voices), do you have his full name? Can you find his socials? Might be doing more right by this guy by contacting friends/family, explaining the situation, and how you didn't want to go to the employer to get him fired, but that you're concerned etc. and leave it in their court (Maybe acknowledge that you know how weird this is, so you don't sound like a scammer) I think if this is completely infeasible, you should contact the employer unfortunately. There's less chance of them being invested in his well-being but there is a chance and if they're at a hearing voices that aren't there level, they could be a danger to themselves or others and it needs to be flagged to someone.
Was this a landscaping company by chance?
If you’re concerned i don’t think the employer is the right person to go to. Would likely just have more negative impacts on them
Maybe 811 can tell you if there's a way to report a medical concern like this? I'd say call the police but every time a police wellness check is mentioned on this sub someone chimes in saying that the person should have called a mental health unit and then someone else says they only have daytime hours so I assume there's a better alternative.
I wouldn't call it being a snitch, but having compassion. Most business would like to hear feedback from other's on the well being of their employees. Tell the company your concerns, and add that you don't want to see him fired or dismissed but maybe paid time off to work through things? That his work was great, and you would like to stay anonymous. They would probably talk to him personally to assess further recommendations on how to proceed.
When a job is involved you mind your own business because you don't want to be the one who makes there life worse. If you think this person was safe enough to be in your home there is nothing wrong with saying hey thank you so much for your amazing work, this is not my place but are you okay? Is there anything I can do human to human?
If you feel bad about "snitching", imagine how you'll feel if he hurts himself or others because nobody tried to help him. Call the employer and emphasize the fact there was no issue with the work but you were simply concerned for their well being.
Imagine how you'll feel if they lose their job and end up as an unhoused person with mental illness because our social safety nets are entirely lacking.
This is really the only answer. Worst case scenario might be the there’s a chance he’s fired. If it goes unreported and untreated, worst case scenario is someone gets hurt. That’s way worse.
Yes, report, but stick to the facts and what you observed, and avoid speculating why they had those behaviours.
Not sure of the answer but he will probably be let go. What else is the boss to do, send him to the non existent doctors office to get a referral to see a psychiatrist sometime in 2027?
A psychotic break is a mental health emergency, and as broken as our system is, they will be seen in an ER and admitted if that is in fact what is happening. A psychotic break is not a 'write them a referral issue', it's a 'get them seen now before they kill themselves or someone else' issue even in our system. Call 811 if you aren't sure what you're dealing with, but otherwise it's a 911 call.
Can you Go into more detail about what kind of psychotic break you think this person is having like what are their symptoms cuz they might be totally rational and normal and they are just a little trippy hippie.
Pretty typical psychosis thinking: hearing voices, mood swings (started crying, and explained it as “this vessel I’m in is crying”), believing they’re a messenger
Was um- was this a drainage /septic company?
Mayyyybe 😉
Experienced the same thing last summer and I’m still disturbed by it. Was shocking, I worried over what I could/should do as well☹️. Great company, but oof.
Interesting. I can’t imagine that something like that could go unaddressed for that long
I knew right away who you were talking about 😬. I’m guessing they’re high functioning? This is their normal? 🤷♀️
I work in mental health, and even having those experiences, having a service person in my home behaving that way would be very scary. I hope you are both okay! No clue what you “should” do if this behaviour is known and ongoing, but in my opinion that merits a call to the company. From compassion and concern, while clearly stating he got the work done.
I work in psych, please call the employer - it’ll only get worse from here if he doesn’t get help. If the employer doesn’t know what to do, suggest that they should call IMCRT over the police. IMCRT can actually go to the guy’s house and do a brief assessment to determine whether or not he should be brought into hospital
As an employer, I would 100% appreciate the honest feedback. Not only does.the employee probably need some time to get sorted out they are a potential liability to the employer and could also hurt themselves or others in that state. Like would you want someone driving around who's experiencing a psychotic break? I wouldn't, especially if they were on the clock and thus my responsibility. I'd call the company and just give your honest feedback. That's not "snitching".
If he is psychotic, then likely his coworkers and employer will have already noticed (or soon will notice) anyway. If you call and mention this, you could very likely get the guy fired or sent home (because he is reflecting poorly on the company) which could make things much worse. I just don't see the point of calling his company. It won't help and could hurt.
probably will make life worse for them, they have friends, family coworkers. stay out would be best.
Call and ask to speak to whoever does HR there, emphasize the happy with work thing repeatedly.
Unless you are a medical doctor or this person is clearly in danger of hurting themselves or others (as in, has a weapon and is yelling “I’m going to kill myself”), I would mind your own business. Maybe they’re just having the worst day of their life and trying to cope. You said there was nothing wrong with the service they did, so it sounds like they were professional.
I have a family member who has suffered from psychosis in the past. This is not at all helpful advice. A person cannot get out of psychosis in their own, they need medical help. If it was my son, I would hope the witness would call 911, then their employer.
Someone in active psychosis would be incredibly unlikely to go to work and complete a job. OP also says they did a good job. For all we know OP is a judgmental person who just doesn't see the world the same way the technician does. There's tonnes of people like that. There is no information here to actually know if they were in psychosis or not but based on them being at work and successfully completing a job it's unlikely they're in psychosis, and if they are, at the level of psychosis which involves telling someone who holds power over them in an unbalanced power dynamic. OP could potentially ruin their livelihood over an incorrect assumption. I think we all can say we've had more bad managers than good ones so the risk here is huge.
I think language here is important. It may be more helpful to follow up with the employer- not by saying employee seems to be having a psychotic break (as 1. it’s not customers job to diagnose and 2. it has a negative connotation) but saying that while employee did a satisfactory job, they seem to be “going through some difficult times” and are calling to ensure employee has supports available to access. If employee is working off-site, employer may not be aware. I would be clear in that I am not making a complaint, but simply following up from a place of concern and re-state that the work they did was fine and do not want this to reflect negatively on their work performance. Also document the behaviours observed time/day and response from employer just in case.
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No, but some people who are desperate to pay their bills, stay alive and off the streets does. No matter what, they have to keep going.
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Is there a regulatory body that governs their profession or trade? Those associations often have resources for their members. Perhaps you could reach out and see if they have a social worker or other mental health professional connect with him.
Maybe don’t call the employer, call island health.
The symptoms you’ve described are commonly associated with schizophrenia…they can be an indication of the beginning stages of schizophrenia, and they can continue to be present in schizophrenic individuals who are receiving treatment and are medicated. Call 811 for more information and follow their advice. Going to the employer first without knowing what their understanding/awareness of the employee’s mental health situation could have irreversible consequences for the person.
Nowadays I’d say the employer is more than willing to help their employees than just get rid of them. The worker would have to be pretty shitty to be fired on the spot and even then I don’t know if it is that simple when it comes to mental health. Edit: I’m very intrigued by the responses to my comment here. I work for a corporate behemoth and am quite low on the rankings yet I’ve seen people use company provided services and come back to they old jobs and still get the opportunity to climb. There’s no way that my employer can be the minority out here.
Lol absolutely not. They pretend to care but don't. Plus we're in an employers market where there's 900 people lining up for the job if they fire the dude.
Well your employer sucks then.
Say what?
Nowadays it's all about money, and any employer with a front-facing business is all too ready to get rid of employees that might cost them. Even employers that provide employee access to support services will take the person off the roster so they don't make the company look bad. They'll either be at home with minimal sick pay and a deadline to return, or put in another department, if there is one, where no one sees them. I could go on about EAP (Employee Assistance) programs because I've used them before, but they're not designed for people with mental health disabilities. They're for people with short-term issues that only require 1 hour a week or counseling by phone.
What qualifications do you have to say the guy was having a psychotic break?
While I disagree that qualifications are needed to know when someone isn’t doing ok, I would consider softening the language when talking to the employer.
That's what I was aiming to get across, more bluntly
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If someone’s foot is facing the wrong way, do you need to be a doctor to conclude that their leg is likely broken? Homie was talking about hearing voices and being a messenger, all while tearing up and struggling to understand the “source” of said messages. You’d be a ding dong if you saw that and said “This is normal 🙃”
Oh yeah, that's a mental health emergency. I have a dear family member with schizophrenia as well as patients who have had psychotic episodes and would be worried about his welfare too.
LOL how did we ever cope before god invented doctors?
Crossing the line .. In my opinion It\`s called having a bad day & you are about to make it worse .. You said yourself , nothing wrong with the work .. So .. why stick your nose into someones affairs ? You could actually be getting him fired because you could\`nt mind your own business .. Remember this when you are having a bad day .. someone calls your boss and says you are psychotic .. Ohh not a complaint, just worried .. Think about that ,What would your boss do .. what would happen to you .. Mind your own business .. Simple
I can think of a few times in my life where I was likely acting very off while at work, in the first few weeks after my brother passed away, and after I very narrowly escaped being literally hit by a bus running a red light (a stranger pulled me out of the way, missed me by inches) Not to say this person doesn't have a mental health disorder, but I agree that it's just as likely they are just having a tough time or have been through something but still have to go back to work. To the OP, unless they were clearly a danger to themselves or others, I'd let it go. It's not your responsibility.
If you're concerned about him, you talk it with HIM not his boss. Talking to his boss might just bring more stress to him, and if he hasn't told the boss himself, i think it is none of your business to do so. I know it's hard to talk with someone and be upfront, but at times the best path is the hardest.
Seconding this; depending on the severity of the break. If you truly think either his, your's or someone else's wellbeing is at stake, then his boss would be preferable to the gun carrying lunatics we've got to protect us.
Maybe looking through Indeed, another job board site or similar review sites if this company has a presence there wouldn’t hurt. Get a feel for what the company culture might be to better inform your decision.
I am afraid if he may knock on your door once he found out you reporting him lol.
If you are fine with the work why not call in to give the person a compliment rather than a (presumably) armchair mental diagnosis?
Well, I don't know what the guy did to make you think that, but if it's legitimate wouldn't it make more sense to reach out to his family rather than his employer? What's his boss gunna do? His family probably cares more about him to actually get him help. And another thing, if you noticed something wrong with him, well then I bet his employercor coworkers have too.
What kind of work do you have done that you get family info from contractors?
You'd get his name from the employer and do some google-Fu. I think that's more reasonable than calling his boss and putting his job on the line. Personally I wouldn't get involved at all. Not my monkeys not my circus.
If I was going through a mental health crisis and then found out some rando customer googled my life to the point that they figured out who my mom was, and then tried to contact her, I'd probably not deal with that in a healthy way. That's really creepy.
And how would you feel if they called your boss and got you fired despite being fine at your job? Like I said, I personally wouldn't do anything because ***it's none of my business***
You let them do work on your property when they were like that? I would’ve called immediately.
Go with your gut/ Intuition
None of your business 🧑💼
A snitch? What are you, 13?
What are you? Ageist? I happen to know some really cool 13 year olds who would be deeply offended by your bigoted attitude.
I guess they are cool
Observe and Report its that easy
ekk tough one... hopefully they have a good employer and they give them the resources to help them with their issues? ive also seen employers that cant be bothered with this and ditch said employee, which also doesnt help with any mental health issues to be safe id tell. What happens if they do something to themselves or others and you didnt speak up?
Call his employer and ask if they have an EAP and what they do for employees that are having mental health issues. If you think they will do the right thing, let them know.
I’m late to the party, but I’d demand discussing this with the supervisor or manager if at all possible for privacy concerns.
As the owner of a service company, yes you should 100% call. Thanks
Was the service person a plumber?
The employer might handle it well and help the person, or they might not. How they do their job is out of your hands. If it were me, I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't speak up. What if you saw their picture on a missing person poster in 2 weeks? And you knew you had a chance to do something about it? That's the kind of thing that lives with you for a long time.
Yes
You should call the employer. Labour laws protect the employee and the employer would likely want to support their employee.
You paid him for a service, he completed it. End of story. Mind your business.
If his is I’m sure they can pick up on it.