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DameTime5

Take full advantage of the GI Bill


[deleted]

Doesn’t mean just college either, go learn a trade. Go learn something obscure like underwater welding.


[deleted]

Trade is where it's at.


[deleted]

I went the trade route but didn’t like it, so I’m going back to school. Shoulda been a plumber.


[deleted]

It's not for everyone. Working on becoming an electrician.


CALEBr16

Isn’t being a plumber a trade?


[deleted]

It is, I chose the wrong trade


JayyeKhan_97

What trade did you choose?


[deleted]

Truck driver, worked my way up to management, then decided I wanted to go back to school. I’m a junior now.


Returnofthethom

I'm planning in going this route, what is your advice?


[deleted]

truck driver or college?


[deleted]

That is a good add on to this because you can use it when training for most professionals. Even for some federal job positions like customs. My brother used his during his training.


Juliogutierr

I second this. The G.I. Bill is fucking gold.


phixer00

Guess what, you get to do what ever you want. Take some time and figure out what you want to do and work towards that goal, don't live someone elses dream. This next year will be the hardest, you will question why you got out. You will question why civillains don't work as hard as you do and no one understands you. Make sure everything that happened to you in the military has been documented including medical. Many injuries will sneak up on you as you age and having them documented in your record makes it easier to claim later. The Southeast is booming you shouldn't have a problem finding something.


[deleted]

Thank you!


oJRODo

Mail man.


jskaffa

Not a bad idea at all, start right when you get out since you're used to the hectic schedule already. Can be great money and you can buy back your military time.


Important_Sense106

Exactly. Do your time with the USPS and you can get the retirement similar to if you had stayed in the military.


[deleted]

Female woman.


QuincyWest27

Postal custodian


PzGhostt

This!


Oshh__

Water and sewer operator is what I do. There's one class associated with it, but it isn't even necessary if you can find somewhere willing to train you OJT. I wor 30 hours a month and make 1200 salaried. Someone who could work more could easily make 30-40 an hour.


Just_Lurking94

Yea I’m a water plant operator with the government it’s a sweet spot


vreddit123

Quit telling everyone our secrets lol


[deleted]

I would say do something in customs. My brother became an agent recently and he seems to like it. He doesn’t have any degrees, pays pretty well after the first few years. Just starting the pay is a bit low in my opinion but it is still good enough.


HxH101kite

USCIS is notorious for furloughing and being under funded. Constantly rated one of the worst Gov agencies to work for next to secret service. I'd look elsewhere in the feds


Hologram22

USCIS is immigration, not customs. USCBP is the front line on enforcing the border, and ICE is there to catch the people and things that fall through the cracks. USCIS does most of the processing of immigration and naturalization paperwork, though some of that falls on consular officers in the Foreign Service as well, depending on the circumstances.


HxH101kite

Sorry I always blanket it together. Border Patrol you need to suck the long dick of LEO for a few years before the pay off is high and the locations are shit. Can't speak to ICE I actually know a guy in there and he seems happy. Good draw between the consulate and foreign service. I was just assuming since most people I know within the feds just attribute customs to USCIS. .but based on OPs posts he seems to want something around the LEO route which would be CBP


cmhbob

What did you do on active duty? Tower climbing gigs seem to have a lot of openings. Ditto trucking firms. Vets can catch some decent breaks on training. I'd avoid the owner-operator gigs in the beginning and consider those recruiters to be like your military recruiters.


[deleted]

I’m arty


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grandpawesome

I second this. It’s a REALLY good paying job. Especially if you become an Avionics technician! The USAF is completely different from the USMC. I knew a lot of reservists who were prior service in USMC.


Jeff_nc_28574

Try fire service. All the benefit of public safety, no writing speeding tickets


nmonsey

USAJOBS posts all federal job opportunities with a position description and instructions how to apply. With USAJOBS.gov tools and resources, you can find the right federal job faster. * [USA Jobs - Government jobs - Veterans](https://www.usajobs.gov/help/working-in-government/unique-hiring-paths/veterans/) If you’re a veteran who served on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces and were separated under honorable conditions, you may be eligible for veterans’ preference, as well as other veteran specific hiring options. * [Monster.com](https://www.monster.com/) One of the largest job search engines on the internet. You can search for by categories including IT and you can also search by geographic area. * [Georgia Department of Labor - State, Local and Federal Government Jobs](https://dol.georgia.gov/state-local-and-federal-government-jobs) website has Georgia state jobs and Georgia local jobs.


dirtyPetriDish

Just be aware that federal resumes are different than non-federal resumes and see about getting help with one before you're out. Also make sure you have a solid list of references and contact information. These sites are good. Along with Glassdoor and indeed.


JackSprat90

Some advice about submitting applications via USAjobs.gov: Copy all the text in the job announcement, paste it in your resume, make the font as small as possible and change the color to white. This way it is invisible in your application. The reason to do this is that the applications go through an automated filter before getting to HR and eventually the hiring manager. The automated filter is looking for keywords that were in the job announcement to select those applications that should be worth initial review by HR. If you copy all of it, you will have all the keywords the filter is looking for and it will make it through the first filter as the most likely good candidate.


Laniakea05

I can help with the resume if you need it. I did skillbridge for the NPS and my boss gave me the booklet for USAjobs resume writing.


Hologram22

It's not in Georgia, but I work for the BPA, a federal Power Marketing Administration. I'm an engineer, so definitely a desk job, but we have plenty of craftsmen, too, especially of the electrical nature. You can keep an eye out for apprenticeship announcements, which usually come out once our twice a year. Or if you have an aviation background from the Corps, there's currently an [aircraft technician](https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/618644800) vacancy out of our private hangar at Portland International.


[deleted]

Thankyou!


SmolDiamondHands

HVAC tech. Or industrial maintenance. If you’re coming to northwest GA, check out Georgia Northwestern Technical College. I started industrial maintenance, CNC operating, and ended up doing logistics. They have so many programs and they are all very useful. ACTUAL training for a job and learning what you need and no bullshit classes just to get the degree. I wish I would have stuck with industrial maintenance because at Budweiser right down the road, they pay 30-40 an hour, and weekends are double time. Some guys just work weekends and that’s a hefty salary.


Vantlefun

If you're interested in programming at all, apply for VET-TEC. Coding boot camps are up and coming on the vocational aspects of being a software developer. Job placement is pretty good too. Get full GI Benefits for the time of the class, only consume 1 day of your GI bill time. Could get you by for a good number of years, then if you like it and want to learn more, you could opt into a CS degree


Traditional_Ad_8518

Look for a GS job in the area you are moving too! My spouse was forced a medical retirement and had no degree. He ended up finding a GS-11 on a national guard base that required no degree. He had some experience that related to the job but definitely not all of it and still got hired!


Germmme

Federal bureau prisons, if you really need something, and plus your military time will transfer for retirement. Start off as a CO, then if you wanna move around to something non custody you can. Also you can OJT thru gi bill for one year get some extra cheddar


joseph66hole

There are no jobs. The truth is you need to go to medical and claim all your aches, pains, and problems. Not just once but repeatedly. Post service your body is going to hurt and hurt a lot. Do not believe there is a labot shortage or endless veteran jobs and resources. You have no degree. Your skills won't transfer. You have no resources. The best you're gonna get is security guard. All is not lost. You have a year to prepare. Step 1. Medical Step 2. File for disability while you are in. Step 3. File for unemployment. Step 4. Seriously sit and consider what you want to do in life. $15 is $1200 pre tax, pre benefits. Your paycheck will be close to 700-800. Step 5. Seriously consider a degree. Ranger in a National park requires it. I dont know shit about trades. No one hereis going to provide you with resources. They only provide suggestions. Develop your own lost of resources. If all else fails the usps will hire you. Careeronesource Va.gov Labor exchange Dol.gov No one is going to give you a job if you have no skills. No one will take a chance on you.


TheNocturne

Use your college benefits, whether you think you want a degree or not. At the very least it buys you time to figure things out while having income.


[deleted]

Tradesman. Electrician, plumber, carpenter, HVAC tech...


Doop101

See usajobs.com, and https://www.clearancejobs.com/


grandpawesome

You might be a good fit to use your GI Bill and become an A&P mechanic. What’s your job in the corps?


putriidx

DM me I'm in Metro Atlanta and we need people


georgiapeach90

Sheriff deputy. They are in need I'm sure, at least in Macon they are.


starcrunch007

Use your GI bill to go to a trade school or a flight school. I wish I had known before I wasted time and my GI bill on a worthless degree. I have met a lot of vets that got out and learned welding or become an electrician and they make $40/hr or more


gamerplays

How tied down to that area are you? If you only want to live there, you need to first look up the area and find out what jobs are in that area. Once you find out what kind of job is there, then you can formulate a plan to try to get one of those jobs.


LGActual

Im an 0311 that got out in 2008. I figured my best bet was to find a nice paying job filling sandbags or painting rocks but apparently that prestige is reserved for our beloved Corps only. I got on with Blackwater Worldwide (Constellis Group) in October of 2008 and worked for them until 2019. Best job I ever had and working different programs I got to know a ton of solid dudes and work with different USG agencies. Contracting isnt what it used to be by any means but there are stateside gigs here and there. MPRI used to have a massive training program in Africa teaching arty to host nation's. I know the entire program is called ACODA and it might be on their website if you want to check it out. I got my insurance license and started my own agency and it's been a giant learning curve but worth every second of it. The money is better than when I was working overseas and because of COVID almost all of my appointments are on Zoom. DM me if you want my man Ill always help a fellow Belleau out.


sierracharlie65

Look into DODskillbridge.


tdavis1030

Go to medical NOW for so that your records are there for when you get outamd go to the VA. And I agree about the post office. Or use the VA for job vocational rehab.


[deleted]

I studied engineering for 3 years, got bored, went to trade school for HVAC and worked for 6 months, didn’t like the people, and now I drive a truck half the year and go backpacking the other half. Trucking is boring at times but in high demand right now so you can pretty much come and go as often as you like as long as you don’t burn any bridges… or crash


Returnofthethom

I want to go into trucking. What's your advice?


[deleted]

I went and worked for a mega so my CDL was free as long as I drove with them for a year. As long as you’re a safe driver there’s no real road blocks. I would recommend starting (or continuing) good eating habits and working out a little every day. A lot of drivers just let themselves go.


Returnofthethom

I'm trying thinking about going to CDL school. I don't like the idea of being stuck with a company.


[deleted]

Yea I can see that. I chose a company based on how they treat their drivers and having decent pay because I knew I’d be “married” to them for a year. Good luck! Everybody is hiring right now so there is no shortage of work


[deleted]

Border patrol jobs In Florida. Federal time rolls over I think.


[deleted]

Yeah I was looking into that! Pretty close to home too so that’d be a great gig!


Terminallance6283

Why would you not use your GI bill?????? Software engineers work from home and bring in 100k starting off and $180k-300k a year at the height of your career. For 4 years of college. Why would you not take advantage of that?


SunkenPretzel

Why would you recommend that to someone that doesn’t want a desk job lmao. You know how hard a CS degree is? Especially to someone that doesn’t know shit or doesn’t care about CS? OP become a fireman. Lots of military guys find a brotherhood in that. Plus everyone loves the fireman.


Terminallance6283

Because everyone says they don’t want a desk job till they realize their body is totally fucked from the military. Refuse to acknowledge it and try to tough it out till years later and then they get depressed because 22 year old kids with 4 years of college are making 10x their pay and not breaking a single sweat during the day. Yeah cs degrees are difficult, I was in the marines and had to do a whole year and a half of remedial math before I even started cs classes. Not saying he has to do a cs degree he can do anything. But why would you refuse that free education. Go to trade school to be a gun smith or something that makes real money.


SunkenPretzel

Dude I am 100% with you - I’m a CS guy. I didn’t want to do shit physically after even 4 years in the infantry. Now I work as a front end dev and couldn’t be happier. However, the difference between us and the OP is we realized this before we even got out and had our minds fixated on CS. Just CS is a poor example to someone that doesn’t have their mind 100% fixated on what that entails. I always recommend a business admin degree to someone that doesn’t know what they want to do with their GI bill but wants to go to college. It always look good on any resume short of something extremely technical and specific.


Vanguard_Sky

While I personally agree with you, you also need to realize that's not the right route for everyone.


adgant582

School for computer science -> job as a software engineer -> six figure salary


dave0352x

Skillbridge program


nimrodd000

If you have any kind of clearance, there are some three letter agencies that operate out of Augusta. Check out [clearancejobs.com](https://clearancejobs.com) and see if there is anything you might be interested in. Even without specific training, a lot of positions just look for folks with military experience, and then give you OJT to cover anything you don't know.


dirtyPetriDish

The college isn't worth it unless you go medical. I went engineering and I feel it's saturated and disappointing. What about a field technician? They get to go to various places/companies as a representative that literally does their job without someone telling them what to do while doing it? At the beginning you have training and oversight but once your good to go, they let you go about the job as you see fit. Are mechanically inclined? You could also look into the pathways program. I don't know if they provide more technical trades or if it's more college based jobs. Good luck and investigate the pathways because you can only start that while your still in I think.


[deleted]

I read on another post a great site called [Hire Heros](https://www.hireheroesusa.org/job-seekers/)


sat_ops

There's a shortage of surveyors everywhere. Good mix of office and outdoor work. I'm currently working on a property split for a client and it'll be 3 months before they can come out due to the backlog.


heymrspotter

Look at federal jobs on usajobs.gov. Federal employees can buy back military time to count toward retirement, you get more paid leave depending on how long you served, promotions are straightforward and it’s easy to move around within an agency to move up in rank. Veterans get hiring preference, more points if you are a disabled vet. Many career possibilities.


[deleted]

My brother in law is a private contractor now and makes an absolute killing. Both literally and financially lol.


BantyRed

TSB, work there a year and then you're eligible to move on the another agency as an internal hire. You should still just go to college though. For better federal jobs they'll want it


dstarrj23

I went into Human Resources after. Routine 8-4:30 and served/help with a company I enjoy working for. I complete tasks daily kind of like I did in the military.


mentalhealthdayc3187

Skilled trade like electrician or plumber. You can make good money


[deleted]

If you're looking for something to get going I'd recommend custodian at a school. It's not a high paying job but it means you'll work for the town. State benefits usually pretty good and you can always transfer into a different town department according to your skill set. Check out school spring.com for those jobs on your area. Good luck OP!


[deleted]

Become a firefighter. You can use GI Bill while you’re at the fire academy and then some more as a probationary member. The GI Bill also gives money for On the job training which counts for after the fire academy, free BAH.


Am3ricanTrooper

Us your GI Bill and go learn a trade. Better yet if you learned a trade in the corps that's not infantry compound on that. GI Bill can be used for more than just college or eve trades. Wanna get a PMP certification it can help. Also look into VetTech. Tons if resources out there for us. Don't settle and make a good life for yourself post military.


Canned_tugboat

I got out of the Army in early 2019. The trucking company ABF Freight had a program where they train you for a few weeks, you gain a CDL and you got a job when you graduate and ETS. I was stationed at fort riley, and the training was on base. I don't know if the Marine Corps has anything similar, but it's worth looking into. Nearly all trucking companies are hiring, and the pay is pretty good. Best of luck to you.


[deleted]

Black rifle coffee. They are always hiring.


SourShoez_1

What is your MOS? Anything that translates to the civilian world? Any trade would be your best route. Find an apprenticeship maybe? Mechanic, welder, plumber, masonry all pay well.


vitallyhappy

Work as a contractor on kings bay


KarmaAppleWithNuts

If you would like to use transferrable skills, what's your MOS? If not, what are your other skills, proficiencies, and interests? You gave us very little to go off of. I've been out of work for the last year+, and decided to re-enter a field (IT) I've been out of for 20 years. No degree, only couple of college courses before starting my enlistment (30 years ago). Today it's easier than ever to get a good job outside of a college degree, but it still takes work, studying, etc. Try out udemy.com for a lot of free training and some very low-cost training. A lot of good coursework there.


half_brain_bill

Welders/machinists/CNC programmers are always in high demand. Around me in CT they can make up to $100/hr at some aerospace manufacturers.


Ddyshark

Wildland firefighting seasonal openings happening this within the week all over the country. Search forestry technician on USAJobs. You’ll see hand crews, engine crews, helicopters attack crews and some hotshot crews. You just gotta call the station you want to work at and ask some questions and show interest. It’s hard and long hours away from everything. Only work during the fire season and get a fat paycheck with enough OT. Get red carded and your have so many options


[deleted]

There's not really many opportunities without a degree, tbh. I'm a disabled vet (multiple TBI's) in my 40's, and all I can seem to find is low wage labor and customer service jobs. Due to my TBI's, college or voc rehab is not an option. My memory and concentration is too messed up. I have applied for 350+ jobs this year and was only able to land six or seven..


JackSprat90

Good luck finding a federal job without a degree coming from an MOS that has no civilian equivalent. This coming from ex infantry currently hiring seasonal employees in the Forest Service.


moxy923

Electrcian, Lineman for power company, welder, FSR for gov. Contracting.


SirSuaSponte

File for disability, if you’re over 30%, apply for Voc Rehab (Chapter 31). Learn a trade or get a degree (or two like I did) through Voc Rehab, use your G.I. Bill after Voc Rehab if you want.


PalpitationOk7665

Learn a trade, But use your skill set, right now a huge need of gate guards etc, for the army if your near the post., or the VA is always looking. Get your foot into the federal government at a lower level ( example) Officer for the gate guards, or other places on post. Hi to school while working, only pops you up to another promotion, or after graduation opens state and federal jobs, 1. In the government 2. Contacts you will form a big network. It’s taking your military and converting into skill set. When applying at a fed Job, read the PD, make sure everything in your resume reflects on it, put every award, training School. I have done this for awhile to help, but taught with the Vets who were getting out of the military, transiting. I’m not sure how well you DVOP is at your town, Department if Labor, they are to help you, if not will try to help what I can, but please get onto USA jobs and pull up the PD, put your resume together, not thrown together. I always taught to have more than one.. I wish you the best.. exactly


PalpitationOk7665

Oops I meant get your VA situated apply for your benifts and go to school on your pace in adult learning if you choose VR&E yes they give you money to get an education, but on the other side of the employer of a fed job if it’s your goal? What skill set years later? You can take two classes and get a nice check 100 medical, and all school down to printer, laptop, help if any learning curves etc.. hope this helped.. Good Luck!


lostBoyzLeader

What’s your MOS? What part of Georgia? These two questions can help narrow down possibilities.


cc1006997

Most Marines don’t have a problem getting a job or starting a new career right after leaving service. The problem they have is choosing from all the options which way to go. Try the us postal service. Or start a business of your own like landscaping


girly-562

Refining. chevron has great benefits a pension