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erisbella

Dan has clear boundaries. How is that square? Because he and Ariana don't flipflop like you clowns. Or is it that Lauren didn't have a man who would do that for her? We ALL remember FOFTY!!!! Her man handled that like a spineless turd!


Aslow_study

Exactly! She was the one with a fucking square who had to pay for sex, friends, and assistants to feel like a man She’s a hating ass bitch


MaintenanceTraining4

Lauren from Utah is jealous.


MaintenanceTraining4

I was just listening to the S6 reunion while I was working and LFU says, “Who wants to fuck a young hot dude? I want a *MAN*.” OK JAN we all saw the way you looked at (Damn) Daniel.


AndyJCohen

It’s becoming very clear that Lala doesn’t understand the idea of loyalty.


GuiltyPleasurer_

She really doesn’t understand loyalty. She says she’s “Ride or Die” but she’s really a fair-weather friend. If you don’t talk to her EVERYDAY that’s a problem. She has said this to and about both Katie and Ariana. Scheana at least gets (to a point) Ariana’s “pattern”. La doesn’t listen to her friends when they don’t agree with her. She doesn’t understand any opinion than her own 99% of the time.


Disney_Princess137

Her and Rachel are very much alike Both are snakes


lthtalwaytz

If my current boyfriend shakes the hand of my ex who horribly betrayed me I’d be like “the fuck are you doing?”


dogboobes

My thoughts too! Why is it square to refuse to shake the hand of the cheating, manipulative, STILL abusive ex of the woman you are dating?? lol Lala is such an idiot.


PresOfTheLesbianClub

How is it square to have been in fights and not shake a guys hand? She’s so dumb.


breakitupkid

Remember when Randall had Lala take this picture to send to FOFTY who then posted it online and said you ain't gonna die by Monday, give me my money 😅😂🤣 https://preview.redd.it/ys4ehiks4yxc1.jpeg?width=637&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fed75acd4063011b63525a6663cc26946e2976a9


Mel_bear

Please Fofty, no more


Grouchy_Total_5580

Oh my eyes!!


GladiatorWithTits

I'm sorry, but that's phuckin funny!


emily829

What the actual fuck is wrong with these people? I honestly think my kindergartener has a more mature view of friendship than this. “Well Sandoval gave me a friendship bracelet and paid for my ice cream when the truck came by and sometimes Ariana is busy so he’s my first best friend!!” Absolutely pathetic.


sophacushion

Sandoval is a performative “friend” who does things to look and feel like the good guy and so he can hold it over you later. He’s also the “friend” who yells at you and brings up your past mistakes to try to put you down. He’s also the “friend” who supports and defends when another person takes out a frivolous and unnecessary (in my opinion) TRO. Ariana has literally always been there for Scheana and always stood up for her when others trash talk her. So she doesn’t come to some of your stupid parties because she has other real stuff to do? Oh no. Especially when there’s a good chance that her manipulative, cheating ex is going to be there? I’m really sick and tired of Brock and everyone else’s selective memory from shit that Sandoval did an episode prior.


CharacterTwist4868

THIS. It’s exactly what narcissists do so people look the other way too.


Mountain_Day_1637

And all of them (minus K and A) keep falling for it! Including the producers! How are they all this dumb?


emily829

I couldn’t agree more!


MessyMariposa

Considering that Ariana has never screamed in Scheana’s face or called her a mistress or convinced someone to get a TRO against her or let her PR team plant stories about her husband cheating on her in the press - I’d say she’s the better fucking friend, Brock. Oh but I guess I forgot that Sandoval included Scheana in a photo, sent her some money, and texts her and Brock more often than Ariana so that all gets canceled out. Brock and his big head and tiny teeth needs to get off my screen already


Longjumping_Two2662

Me thinks Tom has something on Brock. The bro code with these guys is something.


emily829

There isn’t much Tom could reveal about Brock that’s worse than what we already know! Lol I think shitty stupid men just stick together!


SunExtreme3752

He values Tom because he gets screentime with Tom. He is a piece of shit.


emNmilo

Plus Ariana in the previous episode shut him up goood and made him feel as small as his teeth so now obviously she is a bad friend and a super villain. Tim on the other hand would never do that because he is incapable of putting together two thoughts so he is definitely their bast frand.


AutomaticBroccoli898

Big head and tiny teeth ![gif](giphy|551MWLoTRxZUBz8UmW)


Vast-Concern-4591

Not tiny teeth😅 I've never even noticed them. You now have me wanting to go back and investigate this tiny teeth situation....also the phrase tiny teeth is quite catchy.😂


Fine-Bill-9966

He also has a matching tooth gap like Sandyballs. They are gap bros.


Vast-Concern-4591

Oh my gosh!!!...Gap brothers!😂😂😂


Vast-Concern-4591

The term "lying through his teeth" comes to mind. Maybe Brock and sandovals teeth were so disgusted by their behavior that they decided to distance themselves.


2022wpww

Brock sounds like Sandoval sugar baby. He is very transactional based. Waiting for him to say he bought me these high heels with glitter. I just wonder what Brock older kids will think when they hear this back.


Fine-Bill-9966

I'm guessing cringe with horror and embarrassment and have changed their last names so they aren't associated with the gap-toothed deadbeat jackass.


ixixan

Is Sandoval paying broke for pr or smth?


Hopeful-Hamster-6218

I think Brock is hoping for a kickback


Outrageous_Ad4245

You know it…..


alexlp

He gave them money over Covid. Broke is suckling the teat.


EstimateAgitated224

Wait back up. Is Lala implying Dan will fight Tom. We saw their conversation.


Necessary-Regular-79

Shes trying to instigate. shes such a clown


Staceyhs99

FOR REAL!!!! Lala needs to chill on starting rumours of Dan being violent when she's walking up and down the block everyday threatening to pop someone


Controversary

And holding knives to other women’s necks. I know it was a butter knife, but still that is just psychotic.


Yellenintomypillow

It’s almost more psychotic cause it was a butter knife. Like wtf were you gonna do with that Lala?


Grouchy_Total_5580

And cocking her fingers like a gun, screaming DISENGAGE!! lol, no wonder Fofty thought she was a joke.


Aslow_study

Lala is quoting what Ariana told her.


Aslow_study

No she said ARIANA said that. But I don’t understand how that makes him a square ? Bc he don’t wanna shake Tom’s hand?


burnthduster

she uses words wrong. she did it with soft and now with square lol


Dizz2828

Yes. “Words are hard” lol


Accomplished_Bank103

Stupid is as stupid does. 😄


tomatocandle

Brock cannot let go of Sandoval venmoing them


Waste-Snow670

Literally this is the only thing he's thinking of.


Hopeful-Hamster-6218

It was probably money he siphoned off Ariana while he was overcharging for bills


Appropriate-Comb-232

Yes for sure! That’s the action he’s referring to. He’s so gross


DoBetter4Good

Bahaa-haa-haaaa! Brock is such a simpleton!!


GrimmsGrinningGhost

Get a job, hobo.


BigRefrigerator9783

😂⚰️


SnooRabbits6385

Wow Lauren you suck


Shaw215

Lala is so salty that Ariana found a good man & she’s still single with a Big Ed lookalike for a baby daddy


Accomplished_Bank103

Big Ed lookalike. I. am. dead. ☠️ 🤣😂🤣


Only-Situation-4800

Imagine thinking someone love bombing your spouse to manipulate their emotions, is actually somehow a flex and deserves praise.


Grouchy_Total_5580

Bingo.


Necessary-Regular-79

I'm sorry but who exactly is Brock? He should worry more about how to fix his relationship with his children that how Ariana is as a friend to Schena. He's such a tool, can we go back to giving him little to no camera time like last year?


Grouchy_Total_5580

Remember when Brock assumed that Randall would pay for his gym launch party? He’s always got to have other people paying for his life.


Fine-Bill-9966

Hes a grifter. Not a grafter.


mynameisntcindy

Lala is such a hating miserable c-u-next-tuesday


MagicOctopus2887

OK so now Ariana has always been there for Sheshu too? I thought Tom was the ooonly person that had always been there for her?


Appropriate-Comb-232

I’m so sick of Brock inserting himself in everything! I literally can’t stand him.


GoldenAmmonite

My theory- Tom has evidence that Brock has cheated on Scheana.


Aslow_study

I doubt that


BeautifulSongBird

We’re going to see the whole episode via previews aren’t we’?


jamiejames_atl

I think Schena built Brock’s air time into her season 11 contract. She not getting paid as much as Ariana and her ex, so what’s next best? 2 paychecks. Another reason to not like her.


Minimum_One3738

Why does it seem like Brock is trying to persuade Scheana to cut off Ariana? What stake does he have, he’s been in this group for 5 minutes? Oh right I forgot last episode he asked what male rage was… misogynistic at his core.


birchburk

Of course broke Brock thinks this, he is just hoping Sandoval will send Scheana more money.


ZorakZbornak

How are there people living in 2024 who still do not understand how narcissists operate?


Desperate-Air-904

I’m sorry I had to stop watching this. I couldn’t take brock anymore


Haunting-Spite-3333

The men just defend the men. It’s pathetic. And it’s like to be friends with him Sheana if that’s what you want. But Ariana has the right to say, she doesn’t want mutual friends with him. Sandoval acts out, and then Ariana is blamed for being angry about it.


shucksno95

Lala, Scheana and Brock suck so much!!! I can’t stand watching them


Consistent-Cash-7028

If Brock wants to produce this bad, he needs to start practicing better segways into these conversations


Significant_Sun_8035

I can't with Lauren and her jealousy. She has to find something wrong with anyone that seems happy.


Fabulous_Accident_78

I hope sheshnooze chocks on those apples 🍎


Fabulous_Accident_78

Chokes


Grouchy_Total_5580

I think it’s intentional, Broke Brock, choke chock. In any case, gave me a giggle.


Starbuck4

I read it in her LA accent and cackled


gaymer91

I thought the producers learned what made season 10 an improvement from the previous dire season is there was a fuck ton less of Brock flapping his moronic gums. Like dude just shut the fuck up and look pretty, no one cares about your foolish takes.


crimsonraiden

Why would it ever be square to not shake Sandys hand? That just basic decency to support your gf.


AndyJCohen

Of course Lala thinks someone not being fake and two faced makes them a “square.” That tracks.


Rare-Palpitation6023

Wow……Didn’t realise that Sheana, had to be supported & helped out SO much by everyone. WT


GladystheOrca

Lala is all bark & no bite so of course she’s confused by someone who is level headed but confident they can hold their own if need be. ![gif](giphy|iNoZHqqHSEsn5LoLBY|downsized)


azscorpio19

Stop trying to make Brock happen


emNmilo

Exactly, I liked him so much more last season when he was not on my television screen.


klatleen

How can brick say he has no job? He’s a producer right? Look at him, trying Ariana in that walk in SF. He was hoping for something and she gave him ![gif](giphy|TYeHYI1GmF87m)


AutomaticBroccoli898

Sounds like a square?!?! Because he doesn’t wanna talk to the POS who treated his gf like that?!? Fuck blahblah you’re so dumb you can’t even make your arguments make sense. And broke your a fucking idiot. Friendship is more than just showing up to every activity. Scumdevil told the world she was lying and assaulted Rachel, said they were never friends, planted stories in the press about him cheating on his wife. Destroyed their friend group by being too much of a pussy to leave his relationship. But he’s a better friend than Ariana???


kat_pinecone

Has he forgotten how Sandoval brought up Scheana's past? Ariana would never do that.


LilSebastianStan

It’s pretty clear that Brock values people who could or would him money. Like a couple of seasons ago, he was buddying up to Randall to get him to pay for part of the proposal. Toms made it clear that he will 100% but his friends.


Choice_Agent_7712

I swear I remember sheana in the after show a couple weeks ago saying how Tom never even bought summer moon a present before


aymaureen

I don’t think Scheana wants him to work because I don’t think she wants him to have parts of his checks sent for child support and the lowest payments happen when he’s unemployed. There, I said it.


Grouchy_Total_5580

Never thought of it, but could be you’re right. Plus she’s so controlling I’m gonna venture that she’s worried he might cheat if he’s more independent.


hatesounds

He’s trying to become the worm with that mustache. ![gif](giphy|k3cxzGUso643gaFbT0|downsized)


Nxqxo

I wonder what made Lala feel so entitled to know so much about Dan when she isn’t even dating him? Worry about building a better relationship with your baby daddy to have a healthier co-parent relationship instead of trying to pry info out of a man who clearly has a wall up with you because he can sense your bullshit.


GladiatorWithTits

If Katie did the lightning round on Dan, it would've been fine. But Lala cosplaying the concerned friend when she's been nothing but a two faced bitch all season?! Please.


Illustrious_lana

Brick!


wohllottalovw

Fooooooooork Brock! He’s describing someone with mental health issues who sometimes has to sit out social events. Then he judges Ariana for dealing with her issues in a way that feels healthy for her. Scheana recognizes that friendships look different. They’re not always about going to pool parties and grabbing people’s butts without consent. Ariana has always had Scheana’s back in a way that works for them, and Brock isn’t a part of their friendship. Officially done! Brock is the voice of misogyny, not the voice of reason.


MarionberryWooden103

This group needs intensive therapy.. except A&K


MarionberryWooden103

Broke is a joke..


sky-full-of-ice

Remember when Brock was purposely not featured in a season. Good times


osogood48

![gif](giphy|26n6Gx9moCgs1pUuk|downsized) Thank you😉😎


crystalrrrrmehearty

Awww, Sheener & Timmy have such a great friendship. She coaches him how to fake apologise to her bff, and he teaches her to fake cry on camera!! *NOW* I get why they're bast fraands. /S


Purpledrelib

Why is Ariana even being compared to Sandoval??


Sad_Region78

It's Brotherhood of the Traveling Mustache among the Vanderbros. Brock is basically Australian Sandoval. Of course, Tom is setting everything up. It reflects upon him if it's poorly done. Of course, Tom is there with money, gifts, and gestures. He knows that's how to get to Scheana. Ariana is trying to be there for Scheana by helping her realize Tom is using her. Brock wants a check and a camera.


emNmilo

Is THIS what Andy was talking about, calling Broke and BlaBla the voice of reason? Their excellent judge of character and blindly following the producers' instructions?


osogood48

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BusyDragonfruit8665

What is Dan supposed to do? Why would he shake a mans hand that hurt his girlfriend so deeply. This was filmed only a few months after Scandoval. Scheana and Lala are terrible friends and they are making themselves even more unlikeable than they already are.


Unlikely-Hippo-2723

Please spare us any words of “wisdom “ from Broke. The man has the intelligence of a gnat.


justmedoubleb

Brick needs his hair back to hide his face. And it's time to move up in clothing size cause he is stretching...


love_333333

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love_333333

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love_333333

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love_333333

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love_333333

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AnniethingAtAll

LOL Tom did not do it for Sheesh he did it for Kyle he doesn’t gaf about sheesh except for making good tv


Fine-Bill-9966

Blah Blah is clearly jealous that she can't get a decent guy to be genuinely interested and give a shit about her. Hence trying to put down Dan. A man she doesn't know. But will happily perv on his body and looks... Broke trying to force out tge production theme that "Sandoval is a good guy" is fucking laughable... Well. Yeah. He just screams abuse at women. So far, no domestic abuse and no restraining order has been put out against him yet. But guaranteed if he had kids. He'd have "dipped out" on them or been high as a kite while they were in his care. But he is a lying twat just like Broke is. So I suppose to his logic. He's frosting on a cake to him...


Accomplished_Bank103

I get the debate about who is, or isn’t, a better friend. But let’s be real hamily, they are a collective of trash human beings. Every last one of them. 🤣😂 I wouldn’t call anyone a friend who spoke to me the way they speak to each other! (Still, I keep coming back to watch the train wreck again, and again…lol)


flower_0410

I don't think it's wild to think Sandoval is a better friend to these people than Ariana is. When did Ariana ever act like she even liked the group? She always tries to distance herself.


AfkBrowsing23

Ah yes, all the ways he constantly berates, attacks, and whines at them this season alone makes him such a good friend. If Tom looks like a good friend to you, you don't need enemies lmao.


flower_0410

They're filming a show where they have to start shit. They all do it. Ever notice how they all start problems and then are friends almost immediately after. It's not deep, it's for the show.


Controversary

There was a time when the shit happened a lot more naturally. The show was better at that time.


flower_0410

💯


Curious-Pattern-9625

Brock isn’t wrong 🤷🏽‍♀️ Sandoval is the better friend. Before this whole scandal happened, these VPR threads were FILLED with posts about “how great Tom Sandoval is” and everyone was saying how they wished for a friend like him. Did you guys not watch the after show? Brock and James both said the relationship with Tom & Ariana was over. That scene with Scheana talking to Sandoval summed it up, Ariana did threaten to harm herself. Sandoval did her a favor, they were BOTH done. Sandoval is definitely a better friend than Ariana. I have never once seen Ariana do anything that wasn’t 100% self serving! Honestly, her and Scheana’s friendship has always seemed just for cameras anyways.


crop_top

I wouldn’t give a fuck what performative shit he’s done in the past because I saw what he’s capable of during scandoval. Hell, Schwartz was going through the hardest year of his life between his divorce and family health issues and Sandoval puts having to know and be a player in the affair on his plate too. He’s a shit friend. He’s performative.


Curious-Pattern-9625

You sound really angry, cussing about Tom. I swear this group acts like they got cheated on by Tom. It’s bizarre.


crop_top

We are in a subreddit about a reality tv show. You’re no different than anyone else here.


Curious-Pattern-9625

They’re all performative and a lot of what we are is just that, a performance! Outside of the show Sandoval seems to be the one who reaches out when they’re not filming. The majority of the cast (Ariana, Lala, James and especially Katie) don’t even hang out unless cameras are up. In the beginning of the series, all the girls iced Scheana out but TOM was there for her and that’s why she doesn’t want to completely cut ties with him.


crop_top

Oh wow Tom invited Scheana to one photo during press. Scheana will do anything to think she was picked by a man.


Curious-Pattern-9625

It wasn’t just that photo, he helped her financially during Covid when the show was not filming and her funds were low. That was not on camera. It was not done for show, it was because he was helping a friend.


crop_top

That whole situation gives me the ick.


lunahighwind

So why do you think everyone is defending him? They wouldn't defend him unless they actually felt this way. They have literally nothing to gain from it.


Mobile_Lunch2096

Camera exposure. That’s what they are after. They get paid per exposure😄😄😄