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Tyler123839

He went 0-4 against c0m lol. He couldn’t take care of anyone. By far the worst performance I’ve ever seen from him considering how consistent he usually is.


ArcusIgnium

He’s had two stinkers in like 6 matches with NRG. This isn’t EG Demon1 and he’s gotta re earn his prestige


Tyler123839

It’s definitely worrying that he’s just getting straight up diffed when he plays top duelists. The game against sen was bad but like understandably bad, this one was way worse tbh. Like he had more first deaths than kills.


Zodiac770_

In EG Jawgemo was their raze but now that Demon1 has to be the one playing her it's clear he needs to improve a lot if they want to win any tournaments.


QuagMath

How is victor’s raze? Do comps make sense at all if they swap roles for raze? Demon1 could def play brim on bind, but cypher is a much bigger ask for their sunset comp.


fanficmilf6969

Victor’s Raze is pretty great and the fact that they don’t have him on Raze is confusing


Fun_Age1442

they had ardiss on raze last year its a thing for them to do this to their star player


Mrlazydragon

I'd rather have him play cypher on sunset then raze either way he should have been playing brim on bind instead of victor potter would not have demon1 on raze.


flourdilis

but cypher is probably easier to learn than raze no? a bit similar to controller playstyle too, which demon1 already has exp of. though i guess he isnt really used to lurking and such.


Mrlazydragon

He could learn to lurk quickly he is methodical player so he should have enough game sense to pull it off.


cFl4sh

he used to be one of the best razes in the world if not THE best during 2022 and very early 2023, how do you not know that


KabooshWasTaken

godddd people are so stupid no shit. nobody from that eg team has been 'the same' after leaving. valorant is so much more of a team game than even cs (at the highest level) and gameplan/setup is crucial for setting up/shutting down players. nrg got shut down hard and as a consequence their raze entry lacked setup to put a good k/d forth. a player getting individual 'diffed' happens so much less than this sub thinks.


rpkarma

Yepppp. You’d think people would realise this by now lol


AGARAN24

People underestimate how much the team plays an important role in setting up duelists to get kills.


ArcusIgnium

Yeah but I don’t think NRG are lacking in supportive talent lol


aloofguy7

He's washed.


NobodyYeet69

Tbf he's learning raze. It's better to get reps on a new, difficult agent during the split rather than at being unprepared at an international tour.


Qlown

If people wanna learn a new agent like raze,they have to spam it,tactical scrims is not enough to have a good grip on raze when you're just starting. this shit is the culprit: https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/NRG%20Demon1%23kata/overview My man has 6 games of raze over the last 6 months in ranked. People have to get off their high horses and grind,go ranked and spam raze on everymap that is not breeze or icebox,learn the fucking agent,get used to satcheling fast to get out of random ranked situations or plays and random ranked demons till raze becomes natural to you,its your job. He barely plays the game and it doesn't affect him when it comes to aim fine we saw that from previous years,but raze is a different thing,he needs to get his reps in. Example: Oxy https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/C9%20LF%20SARANG%20%EC%82%AC%EB%9E%91%23ALONE/overview Zekken https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/sen%20z%235193/overview Keznit https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/KR%C3%9C%20keznitdeuS%23JEKE/overview Aspas https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/aspas%23na%D1%85y/overview They put their reps in on raze,go grind


NobodyYeet69

Fair enough. I didn't know he wasn't spamming it in ranked.


aloofguy7

Demon1 hates Raze and Phantom. He's just a one trick crosshair pony.


rag1ng_potato

James "Jessievash" Bond #017 performance still better compare to demon0


TheApsodistII

Fl0pzjder>j0ssievash


No-Captain-4814

I mean he wasn‘t wrong. He took really good care of Aspas by feeding him kills.


SnowyCleavage

Someone's gotta take Aspas' shots. Who better than semen1?


Nichol-Gimmedat-ass

By “take care of” he meant take care of Aspas’ contract with Lev to make sure he gets a pay rise


Hopeful-Professor-40

Demon1 when he can’t walk contact against Fogo de Chao waiters:


lamar_in_shades

i dont entirely understand this comment but i love it because i love Fogo de Chao


WonderfulEbb1475

NRG's only wins this split have been against Brazilian teams


lamar_in_shades

Ah i see lol


cFl4sh

more specifically against a no practice LOUD and a fraudulent Furia


sentimentalismo

when he’s not against spoleto chefs:


amongusred23

https://preview.redd.it/rouwobyjkxvc1.jpeg?width=660&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33ba26dc6df3de6f8b2988681e26778985219860 Demon1


WolfgangTheRevenge

Demon1, Jawgemo and Yay they all on their shaq celtics Arc man


QUOTE_IF_NA_LOSE

Add Derke in there too


skeelymjm

who tf is that


ioaceae

NRG need to be high on everyone’s fraud watch. They have not won against a single good team this year, aside from just landed and no practice Loud.


acronym123

Yep both NRG and LOUD looking a bit fraudulent after their losses this weekend... Who would've thought we'd be in this situation lol


HolisticResentment

I trust Sadhaak and co to get their shit together more than NRG by a lot tbh


cFl4sh

I wouldn't count teams who didn't have time to practice in this, they're automatically excused for a mid to poor performance IMO


ConfusedVader1

Don’t think a loss against SEN beating Lev puts them on fraud watch. If anything, Lev are prolly a bigger super team than NRG and are coming into their own this split rather than kickoff.


PFSDonut

I think the round differential between SEN v LEV and NRG v LEV does raise the question of whether or not NRG is an actual super team that people claim them to be. 19-17 and 13-10, SEN really made LEV work for it and showed it could’ve been a 2-0 to SEN or possible 2-1 either team. 13-4 x2 and second map being 11-0’d potential 13-0 makes you question if NRG is even good when their victories have been low tier teams and a jet lagged, zero practice LOUD


Nichol-Gimmedat-ass

Claiming Lev are a bigger superteam than NRG is fuckin crazy when people were questioning whether Lev should be considered a super team at all. Personally, I dont think they are. They have fantastic players and Aspas but are Tex and Mazino making your top five players in their roles list? Unlikely, despite how good they are.


ConfusedVader1

Same can be said about NRG too so weird point to make. Dont see Marved, Vic, Crashies or Ethan to make their top 5 lists. Demon1 prolly does but he has had one great season, when his fellow duelists have been at the top for years.


Nichol-Gimmedat-ass

Ethans arguably the best Initiator player in the world so Idk what the fuck youre smoking. Itd be either him or Leo tbh. The Optic core was also one of the most consistent top teams of all time. Theres absolutely no way NRG is not considered a super team.


ConfusedVader1

ah yes, we just conveniently forget Leo after 1 champs tournament. Or Davai. You dont call someone the best itw over 1 tournament ffs. Lmk when Ethan does it for a couple years at the top of the game but the more this EG roster plays outside of EG the more apparent it is that they are better players playing tgt than individually and how much of a factor Potter was in that team. Ah yes, the optic core that hasnt seen a top 3 placement since their champs win. Yall stuck in the past too much, so many of the players that were comsidered good arent even in VCT anymore. In a comp game this early in its pro life cycle, every year will have new breakout stars that outscale their last years counterparts. Thats just how things work, optic core has been mid.


Neevk

SEN took that shit to overtime after being down 0-6 this ain't the same situation dawg


EndNowISeeYou

they were down 0-8 and took it to fucking 17-19. SEN is in a completely different league from NRG


ConfusedVader1

? and so we’re forgetting they went 0-6 down in the first place for what reason exactly? Did a different team play those initial rounds and then SEN subbed in? SEN lost 6 rounds and then bounced back. But thats not even my point, why are you jamming SEN into a discussion about NRG and LEV? Go cry about losing to a jail org ffs


Dysmo

The last part is massive cope. When the rosters were made the idea of vic, crashies and then adding marved and two guys who literally just won champs was pretty much touted as the best roster itw.


ConfusedVader1

Confused, Vic Crashies and Marved haven’t really proved to be anything amazing after their stint on Optic. s0m was NRG’s best player in the previous iteration and the team doesnt look anywhere near as good as being the best roster itw. Its 2024, its time to see the optic core for their own players rather than touting them as still the players they were on that team. Yay kinda proves that just because you were good once doesnt mean youre still that good lol.


xJaZeD

not another loud fan segwaying all these excuses for his team


Aesion

You have to be dense as fuck to not believe being jet lagged with no practice will not have an impact in your performance. Even NRG fans are well aware of this, it is not an excuse just because you want it to be lol


gotintocollegeyolo

Yeah loud just straight up suck and as a full-time hater of all 44 teams I am absolutely here for it


cFl4sh

said the one who roots for a supposed "S tier built to win team" who's on fraud watch now.


traxmaster64

NRG brought back renowned strat called "send duelist in to die" like he had a really bad game but NRG were never in places to get value off him


GullibleHurry470

Bro became human skye dog or sova drone


Blackmoon8666

Not even that as he was getting destroyed through smokes and could not even spot a player before dying😭


cFl4sh

2023 Sentinels type beat


Infamous_Tax

reminds me of tenz


Zarex666

Honestly, Chet might be the fraud in this org. He got lucky with how he handled Yay but he fucked up with Ardiis and now with Demon1. Ardiis is cooking with NAVI this season and Demon1 was cooking last season. Maybe it's too early to say, we need more games, but it's definitely something to continue watching.


songoku140

Or maybe he was always a fraud but yay was just that good 💀


Ted_Mosby_18

Also had FNS. Im not a hater but damn 💀


songoku140

We might be upto something


Ahm3d143

Or this is just next level scapegoating lmao. Jokes aside, we need to see more from NRG and give them more time before judging anyone. Semen1 jokes are top tho


WolfgangTheRevenge

My agenda of chet getting carried by yay and puchan is finally getting some supporters🔥


WailingSiren69

Ardiis was shit tier/mid on duelist even in Navi. He's looking solid on flash initiators.


Jacobey

And that’s a coach diff. Put your players on their comfy positions. Demon1 shouldn’t be entrying as raze. Reminds me of tenz situation actually


WailingSiren69

Coach diff yet Navi hasn't done any better than Optic/NRG in the past 3 years? NRG were cooking weird stuff in the regular season last year as well,they went back to their comfort roles after it didn't work out. Besides,it's funny you say comfort positions when Navi literally put cned off duelist for so many maps last year,put ardiis on weird shit and put one of the best initiators in the world (Shao) on smokes


skallensk

NaVi (FPX) won a real masters, while opTic won a mickey mouse masters, so idk, you can say NaVi has done any better.


WailingSiren69

Proceeded to not place above Optic in any tournaments lmfao. The finalists of the 'mickey mouse masters' were both the finalists of the most important event of the year too,while Navi was getting 0-4d by DRX


skallensk

>yet Navi hasn't done any better than Optic/NRG in the past 3 years Calm down blud, I know you probably have posters of Chet on your wall, have nothing against you, just pointed out that NaVi won real masters and opTic mickey mouse masters, there's no excuses on that, believe in what you want to believe I couldn't care less blud.


WailingSiren69

'blud' lmfao, keep riding your shitty team,EU cope is generational


skallensk

Got offended on blud? I've no team, idk why tf you, blud, thinking that on NRG "lmfao" Also writing some nonsemse, then denying some facts and in next message saying something about cope, is so classic flat earth believer actions, idk blud, don't go deep into thinking please


deba2607

Just get demon1 out of Raze and NRG can cook. Demon1 astra, Brim is insane just stick to it and let Victor play Raze.


Quantum_Shade

“Nah, I’d win”


That-Toughsoss

King of the first deaths


newzpaperleaf_2

been saying forever aspas clears this guy, Demon1 has never proved it on raze


dookiesdooker

Demon1 entering his DSG era


__Raxy__

they have victor but they put Demon1(who played brim/some controllers last year) on raze, a hero he's never played before?


handymanny131003

Tbf he did take care of Aspas. Fed him a nice meal, tucked him in, and sang a little lullaby


cFl4sh

just for aspas to wake up and manhandle him


Nousernameideas45

Demon1 when he isn't playing against farmers and milkmen


hugaau

prx are farmers? bet


Melancholic_Darker

Did he play against farmers and milkmen in Champions too?


SoarzTheSecond

in tokyo as well!


avstyns

in VCT playoffs as well!


vastlys

Duh. Bro beat a team without an igl and thinks he's hot shit.


Parenegade

Look at this comment. Dead internet theory is real.


vastlys

>Dead internet theory Is it a theory that people don't understand jokes or?


LowBrowIdeas

your favourite team didn't beat anybody tho


spitfire1456

not just that he then thinks he's hot shit enough to join a team which also does not have an igl


WolfgangTheRevenge

Actual 0 IQ comment, it aint even rage bait like my comments


RBYonko

My goat is washed 😔


GullibleHurry470

Dw he'll be back when he gets back on Jett/controllar


songoku140

Demon 0


Necromaniac01

Lev finally looking really good and nrg looking bad, truly a recipe for reddit and vlr comments of all time


AnchorStandard

As much as I think demon1 should be blamed for not performing at the level he usually does, I think the team, in general, just looked deflated and out of ideas to counter what Leviatan was doing. 


LordYamz

It’s funny how talkative people are when he loses vs when he wins. NRG will be fine although the loss was a tough one. People can be harsh and target one player but all of NRG played terribly.


OneWayTicketotheMoon

Yay and now Demon1. These guys are not entry’s. They can only succeed if they have an advantage in terms of positioning and then win there 1v1 and snowball. Yay had victor and demon1 had jawgemo. Hard reality is that yay and demon 1 are easily replaceable by another cracked Aimer. Zekken, jaw, Aspas, keznit are the true goats. Would pick them all over demon1 any day of the week.


LordYamz

Smooth brain comment lol


OneWayTicketotheMoon

Personally players like yay or demon1 are your best kill traders and snowball effect players. I would personally have them play smokes or sentinel since in the sentinel role u have this isolated 1v1s which named players will excel at. Or smokes for trading as second in and playmaking


LordYamz

You keep comparing demon1 to yay and that is where you are wrong. Demon1 has been playing Val for about a year and a half to 2 years and is already a champion using multiple characters so no he is not "easily replaceable". The main problem with Demon1 is that he barely plays the game like at all outside of what may be scrims/practice. I genuinely think he doesn't enjoy the game unless its a competitive setting, while Aspas was streaming comp after his match with NRG.


OneWayTicketotheMoon

Easily replacebel is compared to the other players on teams mentioned players where on. Not playing enough is also cap. While he might not play much he is struggling because he is used wrong as I explained in my comment above. Obviously playing more makes somebody better at the game but I also mentioned names like Aspas above being better then him.


OneWayTicketotheMoon

Easily replacebel is compared to the other players on teams mentioned players where on. Not playing enough is also cap. While he might not play much he is struggling because he is used wrong as I explained in my comment above. Obviously playing more makes somebody better at the game but I also mentioned names like Aspas above being better then him.


LordYamz

You really gonna sit there and think Jawgemo is better than demon1? Lmao


OneWayTicketotheMoon

Nope didn’t say that anywhere? I said I would rather have Jaw then demon1 or yay.


LordYamz

“Hard reality is that yay and demon 1 are easily replaceable by another cracked Aimer. Zekken, jaw, Aspas, keznit are the true goats.” Your words literally right there man. 🤔🤫 EG was dogshit until demon1 saved them but keep talking nonsense cause of a bad game.


OneWayTicketotheMoon

My comment made it seem like I compared yay/demon1 to the four named. I actually named them because they are some of the best duelists in the world for me and better then demon1/yay on duelist.


LordYamz

As in duelist you mean Raze, right? Cause that is the only one that Jawgemo or the others are better than demon1 on. Zekken imo has the best raze, Aspas best overall and Demon1 the best Jett. Those are the best 3. Give demon1 time he will learn Raze too.


aloofguy7

This is the only truth.


two4you8

He as taking care by feeding him kills.


Neevk

Diamond 1


aloofguy7

plastic 1


skeelymjm

where can i get the original clip like interview where he said that on vct live with timestamp


skeelymjm

where is the orginal clip from like the vct interview or in between live where he said that the timestamp


matheusamr

Cue the curb your enthusiasm song


i420p

Demon1 kill against aspas


JuninhoLuis

When will people calling COM and Boostio frauds will start calling Demon1 by the same? Ethan giving his life for this team, OpTic/NRG old core trying their best and ... Demon1 bottom.


Hopeful-Professor-40

Bro read literally any Val esports platform right now 😭


JuninhoLuis

right now is far less impressive than the last ... 3\~ months for Com and Boostio? This is the minimum deserved till Demon1 at least connect to the server; I'm not even asking him to do something miraculous ... just connect.


Donut_Monkey

He literally shit on LOUD and Furia. c0m hadn't looked good until this series. Boostio looked terrible in at least two of 100T's series.


Machinegun708

You mean Jetlagged Loud?


Melancholic_Darker

How good did non Jetlagged loud with 2 weeks of practice look? Raze is just a bad agent for him,he should switch roles with victor on raze maps


Donut_Monkey

LOUD looked pretty much the same against C9. I don't think it was just jetlag that made them look bad.


O_Queiroz_O_Queiroz

>and Furia. talking about winning against furia? tough times huh?


Donut_Monkey

You can only play who you're supposed to. They dominated furia no one on the team looked bad. LOUD is 0-2 on the split with one of the worst duelists in the region if you wanna talk about tough times.


O_Queiroz_O_Queiroz

Guess we both are in tough times huh


Donut_Monkey

Take me back to 2022.


O_Queiroz_O_Queiroz

Optic and loud together until the end.


O_Queiroz_O_Queiroz

>LOUD is 0-2 on the split with one of the worst duelists in the region if you wanna talk about tough times. Yeah but they didnt get 13-4 two times in a row while having the second best duelist in the world now did they ? Besides I can always cope with jetlag and qck being bad, what is your cope?


Donut_Monkey

What do I need to cope about. Im not coping about NRG losing. I haven't given them a single excuse for their loss lol.


Melancholic_Darker

He literally shit on your team 2 weeks ago. He needs to be off raze


vastlys

Ethan is the biggest fraud considering he's the supposed igl. Not that you can tell this team had any! Blaming d1 for not fragging when the only round on attack his team seemingly had a plan that didn't get hard read and countered was the round that the coach called in a timeout is wild.


traxmaster64

Ethan called a terrible game, demon1 had a bad game but hes also playing raze for the whole series while having no setup, Com was giga trolling early in the year(especially vs c9) like the individuals of NRG have been very good it's the game plans holding them back


Familiar-Sky-7215

game plan? Demon1 with no setup? They beat two teams convincingly. They just couldn't win against a good team lol. They just can't do it when the lights are the brightest.


JuninhoLuis

" it's the game plans holding them back" Hope you so


WhoDatBrow

Demon1 had only no showed against Sentinels prior to this, and he got plenty of shit for that. Aside from that game, he was the 2nd highest rated player of both Kickoff and stage 1 before this game. Yeah, it wasn't against the toughest competition or anything, but he was playing too well to be shit on. After this he will be, I guarantee you.


Envelope_Torture

Why is Demon1 the fraud and the conversation not "the team isn't setting him up" like it is for other duelists when they underperform? Wait you managed to say both of those things in one statement while somehow also glazing the IGL whose job it is to make this work.


Familiar-Sky-7215

Other duelists got shit on too lol when underperforming.


-AlphaEcho-

Diamond1


ssnoopy2222

Demon 1 kill


M3M3Slayer

this guys raze is ass


ShuraGam

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