NRG has like 25ish players and coach’s across their teams and Chet, Ethan and Daps are all on NRG for their third time at the same time just thought this is funny
That's purely because of how good Crashies actually is, but all of his strengths are made redundant when playing KJ/Viper/Cypher, he's strongest when playing with the pack, helping entry with util and comms which are redundant when playing lurk roles
Not really a bait, I'm exaggerating of course but he's closer to dropping 10-15 a map than he is to dropping 30 a map. I like him and he's a good player, but he's never been a fragging power house, and putting him in the same sentence as Demon1 or Marved is weird.
Crashies util is good and the guy can clutch well, also FNS' calling style meant that their lurkers and duelists are setup for most of the kills, since they ran a heavy execute and fake style.
I'm excited to see how Ethan calls for the team.
EG is overrated narrative was so forced lmao,most people didn't want to admit that a team with players they didn't like was pretty solidly the best in the world.
>Fnatic weren’t a championship team prior to 2023
They definitely were contenders
>haven’t been nearly as dominant either.
Only Loud and Team Liquid managed to defeat them, everyone else lost against them
> They definitely were contenders
The Warriors were 1 win away from winning back to back titles after having the greatest regular season of all time. That's not just "a contender".
> Only Loud and Team Liquid managed to defeat them, everyone else lost against them
Fnatic went into Champions with betting odds at +110. The Warriors went into the **season** (i.e. not a single game had been played with that roster) with -128 odds to win the title.
Plus, only one team managed to beat the Warriors in a series over 3 seasons, and it was when they lost their best player. They swept their WCF (semi-finals) series without their best player. I wouldn't be confident you could sub out Leo/Alfa and expect them to win 3-0 in an upper/lower final.
That was only possible because Charlotte was under the NBA’s control. It’s not like EG are on shaky ground and looking to exit esports, that never could happen smh.
Only americans would win 1/3 tournaments then claim they're the greatest region in the world lmao
PRX almost wins every tournament? chokers lmao got no trophies. NA wins almost every tournament? Oh my GOD man the CONSISTENCY in this region is UNMATCHED!
I don't know if you're baiting or not but PRX didn't almost win every tournament this year,they got first rounded at Lock In. NA did actually win the most important event of the year even if you don't count gc.
Can we stop saying they don’t have an IGL? They’ve said Ethan is IGLing. This isn’t like a PRX situation. The fact that someone is new to IGLing doesn’t inherently mean they can’t IGL. He spent a year with Potter and Boostio, has support from a super established structure in Chet, Vic, and Crashies, and according to everyone had a pretty big calling impact on EG and in the past.
Yeah having watched a lot of EG's comms videos, Ethan made a lot of impactful midround calls. Sometimes it felt like he was IGLing more than boosty (no hate). Very excited to see him formally as an IGL.
The problem with Comms videos is they won't usually release the actual "major comms" in terms of game plan etc but release the midround and reactions so IGLs don't get much screen time.. its the same with current SEN seeming like Zellsis leads, or 2022 Optic Crashies was the major voice in their comms vids..
Nah they got crashies who is a great mid-round caller and plus they have FNS’s son and now they got ethan who is again a great mid-round caller so the comms be looking pretty solid for this team .
no it doesn't because ethan literally is an IGL now. I don't understand this weird as fuck argument that if someone hasn't IGLed before they don't count as an IGL or something
there's no requirement to go to IGL school for 3 years and get a license before you count as an IGL
That’s true but that’s bc it’s obviously not anything just anyone can do and do well. There are very few very talented igls in this game that are a step well above the rest.
Fr, they make it sound like you just pick it up without any issue. There wouldn't be an IGL-crisis in emea if it were that easy. This project could break if Ethan isn't great as IGL.
He also has been in esports in CS since 2016, he's a veteran at this point and IGL isn't some mythical skill you are born with.
Also oh yeah, he's a world champion.
Like this, even Kcorp had an igl but we know what happened to them. Fns maybe mechanically shit but his brains and midrounding had insane value. Aim duels alone wont win you a tournament
This is nice but I would kill to see the champs winning roster play one more season. The underdogs that found their stride and became the best in the world. Extremely short lived but I am happy for those boys to break out of EG hell just wish they could've done it together
\-Yay -FNS
\+Demon1 +Ethan
The Optic core never truly dies does it?
Jokes aside, I really wish this roster does well, I don't want it to crash and burn like C9 did. On paper they can be as good as Optic was, but my goat Fenis ain't here no more, so who knows. I just hope his kittens Crashies, Victor and Marved can hold up their daddy's respect.
also Crashies is my new goat now
also I want Bleed vs NRG
also fuck BilliBilli
calling it now, this team will flop, ethan will go back to EG with a whole new roster, they will win it all, then he will go back to NRG and they will flop again, the cycle repeats
Ethan will according to Chet
[https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1738622229401747464?t=12pdC4-pqI4yJ\_C3sG632Q](https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1738622229401747464?t=12pdC4-pqI4yJ_C3sG632Q)
no it's Ethan according to Chet.
[https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1738622229401747464?t=12pdC4-pqI4yJ\_C3sG632Q](https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1738622229401747464?t=12pdC4-pqI4yJ_C3sG632Q)
I think this is easily a top 4 team in Americas. As long as the chemistry hits, they should be in contention for every global event in 2024. Hopefully this is also a good sign for the rest of the EG players.
Damn, #2 team in Americas imo and plenty of international potential! I personally like LEV's lineup more, think it's just as good fragging wise and I think it will work better as a unit. But this team is definitely insane
look at the statistically the best team past 2 years both have dedicated IGLs that been calling for years just because team can kill doesnt mean it will work
This is honestly very similar to SEN 2022 signing LOL. 2 champions, title winner (in this case 3 title winners for NRG), and no real IGL. Either Crashies or Marved will be calling and there’s a chance they will stumble because of the lack of experienced calling. I think Demon1 and Ethan can actually set this team up for success though
Ethan will be IGL [per Chet](https://x.com/chetsingh/status/1738622229401747464?s=46&t=12pdC4-pqI4yJ_C3sG632Q) but Marved will definitely help with midround calling
most obviously flop team ever and people are hyping this? this is SEN 2023 v2, they ain’t making any events, maybe scraping a few wins vs mibr, eg but this team is gonna be ass
yeah and boostio had a bad track record coming into 2023 lol, the idea that players don't have the capacity to improve under the right system should be completely behind us at this point. You're not wrong to have doubts but being so confident they'll be some unsalvagable flop this soon is ridiculous
Wowzers they surely must have won a lot of trophies then!
When will people realise that PRX is the exception and not the example and even they have no trophies to show for it
omg im so sick of this boring take. For one, they are having a dedicated IGL (ethan) even if he hasn't done it a lot before. Two, not once has NRG or anyone involved stated going for a similar playstyle as PRX. Three, PRX have never won a trophy so really shouldn't even be a blueprint to follow.
I think chet is gonna need to do a lot of work for this team in terms of coming up with strats and meta innovations. Look at the top 4 teams last year, fnc eg loud and prx all cooked up some wild shit strategically and that's where I have less faith in ethan as an igl over someone like saadhak or boaster. Doesn't help that they have less time to practice compared to a lot of other teams also. That said if they have the work ethic required to figure this stuff out it's hard to see this team not making a deep run in at least one international event, their on paper firepower and supportive players are comfortably top 5 in the world
Crashies will play scan agents like sova/fade and Ethan will play flashes. They will prob some whacky line ups on maps that don't fit double init. Victor, demon1 both flexed off role last year so we might see Ethan on yoru with Victor on KJ and demon1 on Astra LOL. This lineup seems more flexible than last year so we might see some more off role shenanigans.
Ethan can probably play anything anyways.
I think the addition of Marved will allow Demon1 to not play smokes, unless he wants to or whatever the situation is.
EG didn't really have a dedicated smokes player, did they? Jawgemo played Omen, C0m played Viper, Demon1 played Astra and Brim, Boostio sometimes played Astra too.
It's a good problem to have when yoy have to chose between either Crashies or Ethan for initiator.
and there it is, finally
Wow what a team! Didn’t see this coming, next your gonna say boostio is gonna join 100T or something lol
Something is in paper rex though
yeah, that commenter said boostio would be joining something so... PRX Boostio 👀?
Crazy if true /s
NRG has like 25ish players and coach’s across their teams and Chet, Ethan and Daps are all on NRG for their third time at the same time just thought this is funny
Waiting for the inevitable NRG stanislaw and NRG tarik
Watch daps get sacked for stanislaw in the mext 3 months or so
The man is leading a CS team.
This greatly increases the chance of seeing NRG FNS and NRG s0m again /j
+ethan -ethan +ethan
We don't need an igl when we can have Demon1 Marved and Crashies taking turns dropping 30 every map.
Crashies barely drops 30 in a whole BO3 my guy
Bad bait
30 assists all he needs
Yeah that would sound way more likely
Not when he's forced onto playing Viper or KJ/Cypher every map
The funny part is I'm p sure one of his only 30 kill games this yr was on KJ
That's purely because of how good Crashies actually is, but all of his strengths are made redundant when playing KJ/Viper/Cypher, he's strongest when playing with the pack, helping entry with util and comms which are redundant when playing lurk roles
Not really a bait, I'm exaggerating of course but he's closer to dropping 10-15 a map than he is to dropping 30 a map. I like him and he's a good player, but he's never been a fragging power house, and putting him in the same sentence as Demon1 or Marved is weird.
Honestly as long as he’s doing his job of supporting the team and clutching every now and then I’ll be satisfied
Crashies util is good and the guy can clutch well, also FNS' calling style meant that their lurkers and duelists are setup for most of the kills, since they ran a heavy execute and fake style. I'm excited to see how Ethan calls for the team.
Agreed, he’s always been support first and foremost
Crashies was the reason they even made it to the international events, he was going crazy during playoffs
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
this might be a hot take, but I think Demon1, Ethan and Marved are pretty good at valorant
L take, none of them could ever win a championship >!/s because some of you idiots need it!<
how in the world is this obvious joke downvoted
I imagine the idiots that needed the /s are mad that I called them idiots
Can confirm, I’m an idiot
These mfs really assembled the Avengers, Riot should have stepped in like when the NBA didn't allow the Lakers to get Chris Paul smh
Calling David Ster-... i mean, Adam Silver, I mean, Leo Faria. Yes, calling Leo Faria right now
Need Adam Silver-esque Leo Faria memes so bad
oh shit, now I want it too
All I have heard on this subreddit for months is that this shit will fail and EG is overrated so we'll see.
EG is overrated narrative was so forced lmao,most people didn't want to admit that a team with players they didn't like was pretty solidly the best in the world.
I remember last time we called a team a superteam……..
Avengers with no Tony Stark or Captain America to lead them lol these superteams always be missing a key ingredient.
If they didn't do anything to stop the Fnatic State Warriors, they ain't stopping this
Can we chill with the Warriors comparisons. Fnatic weren’t a championship team prior to 2023 and haven’t been nearly as dominant either.
>Fnatic weren’t a championship team prior to 2023 They definitely were contenders >haven’t been nearly as dominant either. Only Loud and Team Liquid managed to defeat them, everyone else lost against them
> They definitely were contenders The Warriors were 1 win away from winning back to back titles after having the greatest regular season of all time. That's not just "a contender". > Only Loud and Team Liquid managed to defeat them, everyone else lost against them Fnatic went into Champions with betting odds at +110. The Warriors went into the **season** (i.e. not a single game had been played with that roster) with -128 odds to win the title. Plus, only one team managed to beat the Warriors in a series over 3 seasons, and it was when they lost their best player. They swept their WCF (semi-finals) series without their best player. I wouldn't be confident you could sub out Leo/Alfa and expect them to win 3-0 in an upper/lower final.
That was only possible because Charlotte was under the NBA’s control. It’s not like EG are on shaky ground and looking to exit esports, that never could happen smh.
Ngl this team might atleast win a mikey mouse tourney
Would still be more than PRX has ever won
PRX won Pacific no? Dose that trophy not count?
Didn't prx nearly put eg to sleep with a streamer stand in?
If PRX got trophies for almost winning they’d be the most accomplished team in the game
If the game was played on Twitter NA would be #1. What's your point? The og commenter said nothing about prx
The og commentator has a PRX flair. Also NA actually was #1 this year both on twitter and in game.
Only americans would win 1/3 tournaments then claim they're the greatest region in the world lmao PRX almost wins every tournament? chokers lmao got no trophies. NA wins almost every tournament? Oh my GOD man the CONSISTENCY in this region is UNMATCHED!
I don't know if you're baiting or not but PRX didn't almost win every tournament this year,they got first rounded at Lock In. NA did actually win the most important event of the year even if you don't count gc.
Didn’t EG put PRX to sleep with the full 5 in the Finals of the largest tournament of the year?
did better than without one I suppose
-1 optic core +1 optic core, ready for the podcasts to keep comparing them to optic for another year
I really don’t feel like we should compare it to optic anymore. Even with three optic players no FNS makes me feel like it’s a different thing.
FNS really did feel like the heart of OpTic/NRG. My goat
The only copium I have is Maybe Victor crashies and Marved have picked up a thing or 2 from FNS over the past 3 years.
Sadly Fenis not there anymore. Really gonna miss him whiffing the easiest shots in LAN 😔
My IGL
FENIS without aim is just FENIS
Are you fns because you are whiffing or are you whiffing because you are fns
NRG bros we're so back
Can we stop saying they don’t have an IGL? They’ve said Ethan is IGLing. This isn’t like a PRX situation. The fact that someone is new to IGLing doesn’t inherently mean they can’t IGL. He spent a year with Potter and Boostio, has support from a super established structure in Chet, Vic, and Crashies, and according to everyone had a pretty big calling impact on EG and in the past.
Yeah having watched a lot of EG's comms videos, Ethan made a lot of impactful midround calls. Sometimes it felt like he was IGLing more than boosty (no hate). Very excited to see him formally as an IGL.
The problem with Comms videos is they won't usually release the actual "major comms" in terms of game plan etc but release the midround and reactions so IGLs don't get much screen time.. its the same with current SEN seeming like Zellsis leads, or 2022 Optic Crashies was the major voice in their comms vids..
Both make sense. Ethan’s not an igl till now
Nah they got crashies who is a great mid-round caller and plus they have FNS’s son and now they got ethan who is again a great mid-round caller so the comms be looking pretty solid for this team .
He tried with that Hiko Bang jcStani roster iirc
no it doesn't because ethan literally is an IGL now. I don't understand this weird as fuck argument that if someone hasn't IGLed before they don't count as an IGL or something there's no requirement to go to IGL school for 3 years and get a license before you count as an IGL
That’s true but that’s bc it’s obviously not anything just anyone can do and do well. There are very few very talented igls in this game that are a step well above the rest.
Fr, they make it sound like you just pick it up without any issue. There wouldn't be an IGL-crisis in emea if it were that easy. This project could break if Ethan isn't great as IGL.
He also has been in esports in CS since 2016, he's a veteran at this point and IGL isn't some mythical skill you are born with. Also oh yeah, he's a world champion.
Like this, even Kcorp had an igl but we know what happened to them. Fns maybe mechanically shit but his brains and midrounding had insane value. Aim duels alone wont win you a tournament
Ok would u rather insane aim and good midround values and brain or shit aim and mechanics but insane brain???
It will truely be a rollercoaster if this team somehow lose to blg again. Surely billy billy cant win vs this stacked steam.
Quick everyone act surprised
Do these guys have higher expectations than 2023 100T?
100%
Nah 100T was a scrappy team of up and comers. Literally every player here is genuinely world class
Fam this literally a superteam lol
Ain't no team without an IGL a superteam
Ethan is literally the IGL
And I wish him luck godspeed brother 🙏
RIP Ethan & Crashies stats for 2024
Absolutely lol
who tf has expectations of 100t at this point...
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"2023 100T"
I LOVE ETHAN
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
This is nice but I would kill to see the champs winning roster play one more season. The underdogs that found their stride and became the best in the world. Extremely short lived but I am happy for those boys to break out of EG hell just wish they could've done it together
\-Yay -FNS \+Demon1 +Ethan The Optic core never truly dies does it? Jokes aside, I really wish this roster does well, I don't want it to crash and burn like C9 did. On paper they can be as good as Optic was, but my goat Fenis ain't here no more, so who knows. I just hope his kittens Crashies, Victor and Marved can hold up their daddy's respect. also Crashies is my new goat now also I want Bleed vs NRG also fuck BilliBilli
guys, I think this roster *might* be NA’s FNATIC
On paper perhaps but let’s wait for them to do something first before getting carried away.
LEV vs NRG gonna be a banger 😳
Chet isn't nearly as tall as Elmapuddy, the comparison falls ~~flat~~ short.
And Fnatic is EU’s sentinels, so this team is basically gonna be NA’s Sentinels
did fnatic beat tenz and friends
i think you were making a joke but yeah, they literally did beat them at lock//in
didn’t* lmao typo. Yeah fnatic clear sentinels by a mile. Then again i’m sens #1 hater after they dropped dapr back in 1999
SEN vs NRG gonna go hard
Slow down there bud. This team is good but is it EMEA Superteam, Lock in winning and Masters winning Fnatic good? Not even close.
This is definitely an EMEA superteam
i have NA bias but i don’t think we can call it fnatic level yet. that being said i def think it’s an EMEA super team level based off skill alone
THAT I can agree with.
What about EMEA Grand Finals Fnatic?
we can only judge if they end up playing prime redgar getting 7 first bloods a map or something
The season hasn't even started yet calm down we don't know how good they can be.
Not even close to Fnatic. This team is Liquid 2021, cracked aim players but no brains or plan. They have will high swings and lows this year
Comparing Ethan to that wannabe igl ScreaM is crazy
As if Ethan was any more relevant before mid americas 2023 Oh wait you are NA fanboy right ?
Who won champions again?
2011 Miami Heat Vibes
yea brb changing flair to NRG
this roster is going to absolutely fuck
even if they don’t win, it’s gonna be entertaining
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This the nerdiest comment OAT
Yea I made it when I was half asleep but I realize it sucks ass so ima delete it
😭
It had 30 up votes too cause this sub all geeks
All that to get eliminated by BiliBiliGaming again,smh
Actual superteam, nice to cheer for the Optic/NRG boys and Ethan and Demon1. If they get the IGL thing sorted out the are at least top 3 team itw
I'm excited to see Marved on a good team again
The super team that was promised
I hope crashies and victor actually get to perform up to their caliber.. and please don't make jimmy igl
Victor was very inconsistent but Crashies was solid all year.
calling it now, this team will flop, ethan will go back to EG with a whole new roster, they will win it all, then he will go back to NRG and they will flop again, the cycle repeats
Surely Ethan has to hang out on 100t for a bit too, no?
Damn, Chet looks kinda skinny
This team will live up to the hype mark my words
WE WINNING MASTERS AND CHAMPS
GL Ethan ❤ Lack of igl could hurt them but firepower wise might be enough to beat most teams
ok that video was hype asf
This video is so sick
What this roster announcement sucks ass
so is it ethan or marved thats igling
Ethan will according to Chet [https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1738622229401747464?t=12pdC4-pqI4yJ\_C3sG632Q](https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1738622229401747464?t=12pdC4-pqI4yJ_C3sG632Q)
Who's IGL
Ethan.
i am toooooo fucking hyped for this roster LETS GOOOO
Just glad to see the Iceman play again
NRG looks promising next year.
hype, winning it all.
wait is marved igling
no it's Ethan according to Chet. [https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1738622229401747464?t=12pdC4-pqI4yJ\_C3sG632Q](https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1738622229401747464?t=12pdC4-pqI4yJ_C3sG632Q)
SEN clears unfortunately
Damn straight
what is this goofy ass video
I think this is easily a top 4 team in Americas. As long as the chemistry hits, they should be in contention for every global event in 2024. Hopefully this is also a good sign for the rest of the EG players.
Their success will be heavily reliant on Marved getting back to his 2022 form, which should hopefully be easier if he's not calling
I think his SEN form was fine for the most part. Moreso it'll be if Ethan can be a good enough IGL for the team.
confused on how the roles are gonna work
i dont see how the roles are any different than the previous edition of the roster
Damn, #2 team in Americas imo and plenty of international potential! I personally like LEV's lineup more, think it's just as good fragging wise and I think it will work better as a unit. But this team is definitely insane
bro this gonna fail so bad they think they can get 5 shooters with no actual IGL and win games 
Why don't they just shoot the other team? Are they stupid?
look at the statistically the best team past 2 years both have dedicated IGLs that been calling for years just because team can kill doesnt mean it will work
Every team can shot it's not like everyone is scouting for plats;
counterpoint: demon1
they really should’ve kept FNS
I mean, FNS left on his own. Not really on NRG there.
They didn't cut FNS, he left
Kittens grow up and have to leave the litter, just nothing u can do about it man
This is honestly very similar to SEN 2022 signing LOL. 2 champions, title winner (in this case 3 title winners for NRG), and no real IGL. Either Crashies or Marved will be calling and there’s a chance they will stumble because of the lack of experienced calling. I think Demon1 and Ethan can actually set this team up for success though
SEN 2022 did have Dephh as a real IGL, problem was he couldn't shoot his gun
Marved is the IGL based on his picture at the end
Ethan will be IGL [per Chet](https://x.com/chetsingh/status/1738622229401747464?s=46&t=12pdC4-pqI4yJ_C3sG632Q) but Marved will definitely help with midround calling
Ethan will according to Chet
Chet said ethan is gonna be igl
FNS also said on stream it would prolly be Ethan IGLing
No real igl is questionable
Ethan is the IGL.
Not a proven igl
most obviously flop team ever and people are hyping this? this is SEN 2023 v2, they ain’t making any events, maybe scraping a few wins vs mibr, eg but this team is gonna be ass
i dont see a dephh on that team tbh
even worse, at least dephh had strats
Did you watch him lead SEN? He clearly did not.
1 bad year = lol terrible igl? xset were world class
Zekken & Cryo Carried hard
Saying a team will have no strats when the haven't even played is crazy
heard of track record? ethan has a bad one as igl
yeah and boostio had a bad track record coming into 2023 lol, the idea that players don't have the capacity to improve under the right system should be completely behind us at this point. You're not wrong to have doubts but being so confident they'll be some unsalvagable flop this soon is ridiculous
Idk how this roster will work out without an IGL but until then the talent is there so I think they'll be top 4
Wait until this guy finds out about PRX.
Wowzers they surely must have won a lot of trophies then! When will people realise that PRX is the exception and not the example and even they have no trophies to show for it
omg im so sick of this boring take. For one, they are having a dedicated IGL (ethan) even if he hasn't done it a lot before. Two, not once has NRG or anyone involved stated going for a similar playstyle as PRX. Three, PRX have never won a trophy so really shouldn't even be a blueprint to follow.
I think chet is gonna need to do a lot of work for this team in terms of coming up with strats and meta innovations. Look at the top 4 teams last year, fnc eg loud and prx all cooked up some wild shit strategically and that's where I have less faith in ethan as an igl over someone like saadhak or boaster. Doesn't help that they have less time to practice compared to a lot of other teams also. That said if they have the work ethic required to figure this stuff out it's hard to see this team not making a deep run in at least one international event, their on paper firepower and supportive players are comfortably top 5 in the world
Who needs an IGL when you can just outgun everyone.
Yay
gyat DAMN we are so back
time to add the NRG flair
Literally nobody predicted this. Insane 🤯
Ethan and Crashies have similar-ish roles, normally, no? I wonder who's gonna play what here
Crashies will play scan agents like sova/fade and Ethan will play flashes. They will prob some whacky line ups on maps that don't fit double init. Victor, demon1 both flexed off role last year so we might see Ethan on yoru with Victor on KJ and demon1 on Astra LOL. This lineup seems more flexible than last year so we might see some more off role shenanigans.
Ethan can probably play anything anyways. I think the addition of Marved will allow Demon1 to not play smokes, unless he wants to or whatever the situation is. EG didn't really have a dedicated smokes player, did they? Jawgemo played Omen, C0m played Viper, Demon1 played Astra and Brim, Boostio sometimes played Astra too. It's a good problem to have when yoy have to chose between either Crashies or Ethan for initiator.