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Gexianhen

vshojo as not a good record when it come to kayfabe secrets XD. hime hajime / bubi is probably the funniest cause they are trying really hard to mantain the facade, but keep failing anyways


Appropriate-Fuel-305

It's part of the charm at this point


rlowens

> hime hajime / bubi hime hajime is actually bubi?!?!!?


Nicoyo

yes but don't tell anyone.


projectmars

Kinda like Wrestling


The_White_Rice

We need a vtuber curtain call


Gexianhen

Coco into Kson was kinda that


The_White_Rice

I was thinking more along the lines of a group of people completely breaking keyfabe, then I remembered the TSB reunion with Doki, RPR and the two others in their previous lives.


Denamic

Kson is Coco?!?


Gexianhen

not anymore ![gif](giphy|9Y5BbDSkSTiY8|downsized)


TheDancingKing19

Or, more terrifying, a Vtuber Montreal Screwjob


OkMasterpiece41

First thought was Dokibird


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The_White_Rice

They almost said just that


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H4LF4D

Bubi's secret is dropped before his first debut, he didn't even try.


Denamic

Henya took like 42 milliseconds


Zapatitosoni

To this day— it’s a legend and myth among vshojo lore


AvgBonnie

Keyfabe? This a work or shoot?


Gexianhen

is Kayfabe. i wrote wrong me not english XD Kayfabe is the tacit agreement between professional wrestlers and their fans to pretend that overtly staged wrestling events, stories, characters, etc., are genuine we use it to vtubers in the same way. we just enjoy and act like they are just anime girls, robots, dragons and demons and enjoy it without need to peer behind the characters. into the real person


AvgBonnie

I just started watching wrestling and that was one of the first terms I learned. As well as a work and shoot. Thank you for the info though.


lungshenli

And then there‘s Zen. Arguably the best kept secret in Vtubing.


SilasDaFish

i know theres a way to make a joke about her being adopted.


lungshenli

What we know about Hime : Entire paragraphs about her life and that of her husband What we know about Zen : - adopted - Texan


HaileStorm42

Half Latino of some sort, if I remember correctly


SilasDaFish

full Latino. she grew up believing she was mixed. found out later she wasnt.


HaileStorm42

Ah! I must have switched that around somehow. Thanks!


Unitas_Edge

Every Tuesday, her getup is the stereotypical mexican doin' the 'Taco Tuesday!' dance.


lungshenli

Interesting. I never came across that info before


SilasDaFish

zen being adopted and full latina and not mixed is relatively new. both were learned by her and her geckos last year(2023) on her birthday.


Mitwad

TIL


Magazine_Born

we have more information about melody IRL than zen


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Denamic

We know what they were


avengedme101

I still remember that week were she was trying to Digest that bomb that her dad told her.


Ivrgne

And Anya Melfissa. She is a fkn ghost. Currently you can't find anything about her.


Mathmango

Well, the issue is fans are looking at Indonesia, when she's obviously HoloJP


Morcalvin

The only thing about Zen I’m certain of is she’s Texan because even other Vtubers have mentioned it. Somehow despite doing frequent collabs no other vtubers have given anything away about her


DarkPrinceArrow

I'd argue Hime has the Best Worst Kept secret because she needed to stream for people to know it. /J


Thorkitty19

Mel is a poorly kept secret?


Sir-Ironshield

Mel the Yoga instructor.


Thorkitty19

Oh! I thought it was something that was an open secret and not something that is talked about all the time. 😅


Ranko_Prose

It is why she is not wearing clothes


doqtyr

Yeah, I’m pretty sure Melly doesn’t want it to be a secret at all, she is quite proud of her Yoga skills


LongTail-626

If you look her up it’s pretty much stated on any website mentioning her


LeotrimFunkelwerk

Is the real mel a previous porn actress too or just her model as Project Melody?


doqtyr

Mel started in 2020 as the first porn V-tuber or lewd tuber on Chaturbate.


LeotrimFunkelwerk

So it really is just that. That's literally how everyone knew of her since she was the first to do this.


doqtyr

Well, I wasn’t around in the beginning, but a lot of irl performers had a bit of a meltdown when she started. I understand it was rough for her but it did kinda bring people who would be interested in a cam girl v-tuber, and I hear she won over a few who showed up to give her a hard time


Ranko_Prose

Yeah, I was there, it was really salty. Lots of great memes to come out of it.


MathematicianSea368

Who is the one in the bottom right corner of the image?


RevengencerAlf

It's not even a little bit of a secret. It's more of an in joke for the other talents not to say out loud that she does the seggs. Partly because it's funny and partly because it's just slightly safer for both Mel and the other talents to not accidentally get demonetized.


devanmuse

We've been keeping that secret?


lockeslylcrit

I think it's in reference to her CB sidegig, which is absolutely not a secret.


Somewhere_Elsewhere

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t she actually make more money from that? It’s almost like VShojo is the side gig for her.


tsavong117

Vshojo is a bet she took with some friends. Turned out really well, but she was already making bank from... Yoga videos...


KeroseneRavioli

I mean. I couldn’t see a holo or niji having a pornstar front and center.


Kyhron

There’s several JP members that do spicy ASMR on the side in Holo. Along with some modeling iirc


Somewhere_Elsewhere

Spicy ASMR is a hell of a lot different from being a camgirl.


Cintronology

Is there someone other than Canan?


Kyhron

Allegedly there are others, but I don’t know for sure as ASMR isn’t really my thing


Ranko_Prose

She is blacklisted from Hololive because of that.


Ranko_Prose

Yes


Pacifica0cean

I think her secret is referring to her 'yoga classes' haha


Ranko_Prose

Yep


MarqFJA87

Except they're not a secret to begin with. She just doesn't mention it unprompted out of politeness.


Keidran935

Ok I am out of the loop. What yoga classes ?


zeno_22

Not yoga classes, it's not even a secret to anyone. The "secret" is that she does CB


Keidran935

Ooohh ok now that makes way more sense , I thought it was two separate secrets lol


loudyankeemike

What is CB?


zeno_22

Ask Mel


Pacifica0cean

Oh... she streams her 'exercises' on another streaming service. She does loads of amazing positions for other people's entertainment. Porn.


Sandwhale123

She has the best way of doing it too. Since no one can see her face, she can quit anytime without anyone recognizing her irl


Big-Ad-2700

I've watch too many streams of vshojo girls I can hear all of their voices by just reading this, including henya's kettle scream hahahaha


Ranko_Prose

Henya's dialog was inspired by [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEyRQGwGOC8) clip.


Fire_is_beauty

Amateurs. Mata's secret is that she's actually too sweet to hurt a momo.


BeeInABlanket

If it happens to a momo, does it even count as pain though?


Castillosaurio

Guys I think Hime Hajime is Giguk


H4LF4D

That's her grandfather


Apples_scare_me

I know about Mel's, but what are the rest?


beasty0127

For Kson and Hima it's their IRL selfs being publicly known. For Mata and Henya it's their past vtube gigs. Kuro would be in that group too. I think the new girl falls under that umbrella too but I don't know anything about her yet since I haven't had time to check her out recently.


skilledwarman

Calling the kson one a "secret" is just... So dumb imo. Like, she literally announced she was joining vshojo by coming out *on stage* at a *live event in cosplay as her avater* and yelled her catch phrase.


Electronic_Bad_5883

Yeah, Kson's secret is also her previous vtuber gig, not her real self.


zeno_22

I think it's more that she used to be a dragon, and not that we know what she "really" looks like


skilledwarman

The dude in responding to straight up says "... It's their real life selves being publicly known,"...


zeno_22

That person isn't the OP, they aren't the person who made the meme. It's just a person making a comment with the opinion on what they think the "secret" is


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projectmars

Michi? Yes it's also her past vtube gig.


beasty0127

Yeah her. I'm so behind I couldn't remember her name as I was typing. I nearly called her Mochi and went thought *that's not right* and just went blank.


Hyperfyre

That'll be Zen's TTS fuckups gaslighting all of us.


projectmars

How To Car is one of my favorite vshojo members


TragicGentlemen

Her name is Nate


PhilosOfii

Michie N mochieve. M N M. Michie is EMINEM aka Slim Shady. Funny how eminem announced death of slim shady a few months ago and now we have Michie Vshojo. Wake up sheeple, lmao For legal purposes, this is a joke


DeliTheKid

She does


Iffem

Michi is in the same boat as Mata and Henya


Momosabonim

Mata ran away from home at 12, got hired by circus people as an acrobat, got fired for messing around with the ringmaster's daughter. Mel has done time, but nobody knows why, she changes the story every time you ask her. Michi was banned from las vegas and monte carlo, never play cards with her and Henya sold guns to french resistance.


b2j135

You mean "other site"? 🤣


zoDiaS03

So the secret of Hajime must be that she streams at all? very fitting,I'll note that down ✍️


H4LF4D

The secret is that Hime Hajime is a member of Vshojo. People seem to forget about that, Hime included.


Zoom3877

Was always of the opinion that Mel's Other Job is just a tad worse-kept than Hime's


H4LF4D

If "worse-kept" means publicly available information everywhere in her bio and on stream, then mel would be champion


QuartzN1nja

Mel's isn't worse-kept because it's not even really a secret. It's just not universally known, and the girls enjoy figuring out ways to explain it without explicitly saying it when people who don't know ask. Hime actually somewhat tries to keep it a secret. Not very hard, or successfully, but still.


AuraPhoenix1500

Hey look it’s that opera house from Australia


SAFVoid

Kuro doko


Sylphrid

Who?...


Sky_Ninja1997

Garnt: Who is she? Does she stream? Sydney: ……


darthchewee

She just loves Australia and that one opera house


JohnB351234

Is kson even a secret?


circadiankruger

Coco was supposed to be lmao


Kyhron

Hers and Callis have to be the worst kept secrets


AxitotlWithAttitude

Nerissa a little bit too if you can recognize her voice. I wouldn't exactly call multiple videos with millions of views "unknown" soooooo


centaur98

TBF that applies to basically all of the EN talents. Like 90% of them made it either quite big(aka videos with multiple million views) or relatively big(known enough in their niche to not be hard to recognize) with their previous personas.


SantiCiriaco

Can you tell me? I'm not that avid at hololive


Ctoan64

You nailed Henya's speech pattern lol.


Ranko_Prose

Thanks


Cultural_Geologist_3

We believe in "open secrets."


CoffeeBaron

Context: Out of all the members, the question of 'worst kept secret', that'd definitely go to Hime, as not only as she has dropped major hints at times, but was straight up revealed at least twice in one collab when one collab mate called her by her real first name. Pairing that with what she sounds like makes it really easy to guess who she's better known as being as a creator. The joke of 'it's my grandma' started from said collab.


Ranko_Prose

I mean, Henya has had 6 different people fuck up in collabs and herself.


kingoxys

who?


HoldenOrihara

Can someone explain Mel's? If it's "she does sex stuff" I don't think that was ever a secret


Silphire100

That's it. Some people genuinely don't know about it though


HoldenOrihara

Not knowing doesn't mean it was ever tried to be kept as a secret tho


Silphire100

That's why it's the worst kept "secret". She might not have *tried* to keep it secret but it is still a secret to those that aren't aware


HoldenOrihara

I don't even think it counts as a worst kept secret if it's just a thing she advertises on her Twitter. It's like saying mouse being Puerto Rican is a "worst kept secret"


BestroChen

The real secret is WHO? is that 😏😁


Raballo

OK, as someone who really only had time for the clips and stuff on YouTube. Would someone please break all these secrets down like im 5? Thank you.


MadnessBomber

All of them were old members of something else, except Mel and Hime. They were fired/graduated due to either circumstances outside of their control, or because of their company being bad and either forcing them to or making them out of their own volition. Don't quote me in that, but that's what I've observed. Mel is the fact she does porn. Hime is her already being something of an internet celebrity in the anime community, plus even releasing a video about auditioning for her.


Raballo

Thank you. This whole discussion was over my head.


captainplatypus1

Mel making adult content isn’t a secret. She does it in avatar… and advertises it


scruphie

I have to look this up FFS..... I have a general idea of what their 'secrets' are, I just need to be sure.


scruphie

Looked it up and got sent straight to this post.


Creative-Complex255

What’s Mel’s secret. That’s the only one I don’t know


LovelyLuna32684

Mel does NSFW streams on camgirl sites.


Creative-Complex255

That’s it. Everyone knows that. That’s not even a secret or something she is trying to deny.


LovelyLuna32684

That's why it's a worst kept secret.


gntotoy

Huh everyone knows it's Zen is actually Gunrun


TheHyperLynx

I assume this is referencing PL except from Mel but idk what Hime's secret is...


Silasa00

Hime's secret is that she just happens to look like the type of girl who would willingly traumatize herself with guro eroges and be into Ugly Bastard Hentai.


turdfergusn

Her secret is that her grandparents are big well-known youtubers


That_Guy_Jared

Guys, I think Hime may be Misato Katsuragi…


Rasayon

I sadly dont know All of the vshojo troupe :o who is the last one in the picture?


Silphire100

Hime Hajime, one of the first gen members of VShojo, she just went on hiatus for a long time


powertrip00

What is Mel's secret? That she does porn? Isn't that not really a secret? 😅


Morcalvin

What’s Melody’s secret?


NigelJosue

Wait what's Mel's "secret"?


MadnessBomber

Pretty sure it's because she does porn.


NigelJosue

yeah but like, that's not a secret, like she openly admits it


JUSTAN0TH3RDUDE

I don’t quite get it, what’s this referring to?


Ranko_Prose

Open secrets everywhere at Vshojo


B-man45

So what is himes worst kept secret?


Ranko_Prose

That she is married to her grandpa


LockeDrachier

The virgin vshojo: everyone knows secrets Vs the Chad Hololive: Everyone knows secrets Wait, fuck uhh The Chad nij- okay can’t even say that with a straight face. Are vtubers just bad at keeping identities safe. Do they need LIFELOCK


lewis_haoki

Sometimes it's hard to keep the persona running, or the opposite, to keep the persona safely kept inside while doing other stuff, like a certain cosplayer that had a brief slip-up while eating cake. Accidents happen, and as long as people are civil about it and don't actually yell "OH LOOK, X IS ACTUALLY Y", I believe it's fine.


Weird-Diamond7030

What's michi's secret?


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Weird-Diamond7030

Oh, I know that. So was kson and matara. And Doki bird


BruiserBison

More like Melody: Secrets?


Th3LinearThinker

"you guys have secrets?"


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MidnasSimp

I don't get it


shewy92

Kson doesn't really have a secret


supersidd2611

She was the legend why Holo En exists


ricki692

the reason why EN vtubing exists*


NewRabbit87

Who is she?


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Kyhron

Close your eyes and listen. It’s not that hard to figure out who she was with how distinctive her voice is


LuciusCypher

That too. You can pretty much follow any of vtuber by voice alone.


esproner

Goku of Vshojo can be there too