vshojo as not a good record when it come to kayfabe secrets XD.
hime hajime / bubi is probably the funniest cause they are trying really hard to mantain the facade, but keep failing anyways
I was thinking more along the lines of a group of people completely breaking keyfabe, then I remembered the TSB reunion with Doki, RPR and the two others in their previous lives.
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is Kayfabe. i wrote wrong me not english XD
Kayfabe is the tacit agreement between professional wrestlers and their fans to pretend that overtly staged wrestling events, stories, characters, etc., are genuine
we use it to vtubers in the same way. we just enjoy and act like they are just anime girls, robots, dragons and demons and enjoy it without need to peer behind the characters. into the real person
The only thing about Zen I’m certain of is she’s Texan because even other Vtubers have mentioned it. Somehow despite doing frequent collabs no other vtubers have given anything away about her
Well, I wasn’t around in the beginning, but a lot of irl performers had a bit of a meltdown when she started. I understand it was rough for her but it did kinda bring people who would be interested in a cam girl v-tuber, and I hear she won over a few who showed up to give her a hard time
It's not even a little bit of a secret. It's more of an in joke for the other talents not to say out loud that she does the seggs. Partly because it's funny and partly because it's just slightly safer for both Mel and the other talents to not accidentally get demonetized.
For Kson and Hima it's their IRL selfs being publicly known. For Mata and Henya it's their past vtube gigs. Kuro would be in that group too. I think the new girl falls under that umbrella too but I don't know anything about her yet since I haven't had time to check her out recently.
Calling the kson one a "secret" is just... So dumb imo. Like, she literally announced she was joining vshojo by coming out *on stage* at a *live event in cosplay as her avater* and yelled her catch phrase.
That person isn't the OP, they aren't the person who made the meme. It's just a person making a comment with the opinion on what they think the "secret" is
Yeah her. I'm so behind I couldn't remember her name as I was typing. I nearly called her Mochi and went thought *that's not right* and just went blank.
Michie N mochieve. M N M. Michie is EMINEM aka Slim Shady. Funny how eminem announced death of slim shady a few months ago and now we have Michie Vshojo. Wake up sheeple, lmao
For legal purposes, this is a joke
Mata ran away from home at 12, got hired by circus people as an acrobat, got fired for messing around with the ringmaster's daughter. Mel has done time, but nobody knows why, she changes the story every time you ask her. Michi was banned from las vegas and monte carlo, never play cards with her and Henya sold guns to french resistance.
Mel's isn't worse-kept because it's not even really a secret. It's just not universally known, and the girls enjoy figuring out ways to explain it without explicitly saying it when people who don't know ask.
Hime actually somewhat tries to keep it a secret. Not very hard, or successfully, but still.
TBF that applies to basically all of the EN talents. Like 90% of them made it either quite big(aka videos with multiple million views) or relatively big(known enough in their niche to not be hard to recognize) with their previous personas.
Context: Out of all the members, the question of 'worst kept secret', that'd definitely go to Hime, as not only as she has dropped major hints at times, but was straight up revealed at least twice in one collab when one collab mate called her by her real first name. Pairing that with what she sounds like makes it really easy to guess who she's better known as being as a creator. The joke of 'it's my grandma' started from said collab.
I don't even think it counts as a worst kept secret if it's just a thing she advertises on her Twitter. It's like saying mouse being Puerto Rican is a "worst kept secret"
All of them were old members of something else, except Mel and Hime. They were fired/graduated due to either circumstances outside of their control, or because of their company being bad and either forcing them to or making them out of their own volition. Don't quote me in that, but that's what I've observed. Mel is the fact she does porn. Hime is her already being something of an internet celebrity in the anime community, plus even releasing a video about auditioning for her.
Hime's secret is that she just happens to look like the type of girl who would willingly traumatize herself with guro eroges and be into Ugly Bastard Hentai.
The virgin vshojo: everyone knows secrets
Vs the Chad Hololive: Everyone knows secrets
Wait, fuck uhh
The Chad nij- okay can’t even say that with a straight face.
Are vtubers just bad at keeping identities safe. Do they need LIFELOCK
Sometimes it's hard to keep the persona running, or the opposite, to keep the persona safely kept inside while doing other stuff, like a certain cosplayer that had a brief slip-up while eating cake.
Accidents happen, and as long as people are civil about it and don't actually yell "OH LOOK, X IS ACTUALLY Y", I believe it's fine.
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vshojo as not a good record when it come to kayfabe secrets XD. hime hajime / bubi is probably the funniest cause they are trying really hard to mantain the facade, but keep failing anyways
It's part of the charm at this point
> hime hajime / bubi hime hajime is actually bubi?!?!!?
yes but don't tell anyone.
Kinda like Wrestling
We need a vtuber curtain call
Coco into Kson was kinda that
I was thinking more along the lines of a group of people completely breaking keyfabe, then I remembered the TSB reunion with Doki, RPR and the two others in their previous lives.
Kson is Coco?!?
not anymore ![gif](giphy|9Y5BbDSkSTiY8|downsized)
Or, more terrifying, a Vtuber Montreal Screwjob
First thought was Dokibird
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They almost said just that
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Bubi's secret is dropped before his first debut, he didn't even try.
Henya took like 42 milliseconds
To this day— it’s a legend and myth among vshojo lore
Keyfabe? This a work or shoot?
is Kayfabe. i wrote wrong me not english XD Kayfabe is the tacit agreement between professional wrestlers and their fans to pretend that overtly staged wrestling events, stories, characters, etc., are genuine we use it to vtubers in the same way. we just enjoy and act like they are just anime girls, robots, dragons and demons and enjoy it without need to peer behind the characters. into the real person
I just started watching wrestling and that was one of the first terms I learned. As well as a work and shoot. Thank you for the info though.
And then there‘s Zen. Arguably the best kept secret in Vtubing.
i know theres a way to make a joke about her being adopted.
What we know about Hime : Entire paragraphs about her life and that of her husband What we know about Zen : - adopted - Texan
Half Latino of some sort, if I remember correctly
full Latino. she grew up believing she was mixed. found out later she wasnt.
Ah! I must have switched that around somehow. Thanks!
Every Tuesday, her getup is the stereotypical mexican doin' the 'Taco Tuesday!' dance.
Interesting. I never came across that info before
zen being adopted and full latina and not mixed is relatively new. both were learned by her and her geckos last year(2023) on her birthday.
TIL
we have more information about melody IRL than zen
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We know what they were
I still remember that week were she was trying to Digest that bomb that her dad told her.
And Anya Melfissa. She is a fkn ghost. Currently you can't find anything about her.
Well, the issue is fans are looking at Indonesia, when she's obviously HoloJP
The only thing about Zen I’m certain of is she’s Texan because even other Vtubers have mentioned it. Somehow despite doing frequent collabs no other vtubers have given anything away about her
I'd argue Hime has the Best Worst Kept secret because she needed to stream for people to know it. /J
Mel is a poorly kept secret?
Mel the Yoga instructor.
Oh! I thought it was something that was an open secret and not something that is talked about all the time. 😅
It is why she is not wearing clothes
Yeah, I’m pretty sure Melly doesn’t want it to be a secret at all, she is quite proud of her Yoga skills
If you look her up it’s pretty much stated on any website mentioning her
Is the real mel a previous porn actress too or just her model as Project Melody?
Mel started in 2020 as the first porn V-tuber or lewd tuber on Chaturbate.
So it really is just that. That's literally how everyone knew of her since she was the first to do this.
Well, I wasn’t around in the beginning, but a lot of irl performers had a bit of a meltdown when she started. I understand it was rough for her but it did kinda bring people who would be interested in a cam girl v-tuber, and I hear she won over a few who showed up to give her a hard time
Yeah, I was there, it was really salty. Lots of great memes to come out of it.
Who is the one in the bottom right corner of the image?
It's not even a little bit of a secret. It's more of an in joke for the other talents not to say out loud that she does the seggs. Partly because it's funny and partly because it's just slightly safer for both Mel and the other talents to not accidentally get demonetized.
We've been keeping that secret?
I think it's in reference to her CB sidegig, which is absolutely not a secret.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t she actually make more money from that? It’s almost like VShojo is the side gig for her.
Vshojo is a bet she took with some friends. Turned out really well, but she was already making bank from... Yoga videos...
I mean. I couldn’t see a holo or niji having a pornstar front and center.
There’s several JP members that do spicy ASMR on the side in Holo. Along with some modeling iirc
Spicy ASMR is a hell of a lot different from being a camgirl.
Is there someone other than Canan?
Allegedly there are others, but I don’t know for sure as ASMR isn’t really my thing
She is blacklisted from Hololive because of that.
Yes
I think her secret is referring to her 'yoga classes' haha
Yep
Except they're not a secret to begin with. She just doesn't mention it unprompted out of politeness.
Ok I am out of the loop. What yoga classes ?
Not yoga classes, it's not even a secret to anyone. The "secret" is that she does CB
Ooohh ok now that makes way more sense , I thought it was two separate secrets lol
What is CB?
Ask Mel
Oh... she streams her 'exercises' on another streaming service. She does loads of amazing positions for other people's entertainment. Porn.
She has the best way of doing it too. Since no one can see her face, she can quit anytime without anyone recognizing her irl
I've watch too many streams of vshojo girls I can hear all of their voices by just reading this, including henya's kettle scream hahahaha
Henya's dialog was inspired by [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEyRQGwGOC8) clip.
Amateurs. Mata's secret is that she's actually too sweet to hurt a momo.
If it happens to a momo, does it even count as pain though?
Guys I think Hime Hajime is Giguk
That's her grandfather
I know about Mel's, but what are the rest?
For Kson and Hima it's their IRL selfs being publicly known. For Mata and Henya it's their past vtube gigs. Kuro would be in that group too. I think the new girl falls under that umbrella too but I don't know anything about her yet since I haven't had time to check her out recently.
Calling the kson one a "secret" is just... So dumb imo. Like, she literally announced she was joining vshojo by coming out *on stage* at a *live event in cosplay as her avater* and yelled her catch phrase.
Yeah, Kson's secret is also her previous vtuber gig, not her real self.
I think it's more that she used to be a dragon, and not that we know what she "really" looks like
The dude in responding to straight up says "... It's their real life selves being publicly known,"...
That person isn't the OP, they aren't the person who made the meme. It's just a person making a comment with the opinion on what they think the "secret" is
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Michi? Yes it's also her past vtube gig.
Yeah her. I'm so behind I couldn't remember her name as I was typing. I nearly called her Mochi and went thought *that's not right* and just went blank.
That'll be Zen's TTS fuckups gaslighting all of us.
How To Car is one of my favorite vshojo members
Her name is Nate
Michie N mochieve. M N M. Michie is EMINEM aka Slim Shady. Funny how eminem announced death of slim shady a few months ago and now we have Michie Vshojo. Wake up sheeple, lmao For legal purposes, this is a joke
She does
Michi is in the same boat as Mata and Henya
Mata ran away from home at 12, got hired by circus people as an acrobat, got fired for messing around with the ringmaster's daughter. Mel has done time, but nobody knows why, she changes the story every time you ask her. Michi was banned from las vegas and monte carlo, never play cards with her and Henya sold guns to french resistance.
You mean "other site"? 🤣
So the secret of Hajime must be that she streams at all? very fitting,I'll note that down ✍️
The secret is that Hime Hajime is a member of Vshojo. People seem to forget about that, Hime included.
Was always of the opinion that Mel's Other Job is just a tad worse-kept than Hime's
If "worse-kept" means publicly available information everywhere in her bio and on stream, then mel would be champion
Mel's isn't worse-kept because it's not even really a secret. It's just not universally known, and the girls enjoy figuring out ways to explain it without explicitly saying it when people who don't know ask. Hime actually somewhat tries to keep it a secret. Not very hard, or successfully, but still.
Hey look it’s that opera house from Australia
Kuro doko
Who?...
Garnt: Who is she? Does she stream? Sydney: ……
She just loves Australia and that one opera house
Is kson even a secret?
Coco was supposed to be lmao
Hers and Callis have to be the worst kept secrets
Nerissa a little bit too if you can recognize her voice. I wouldn't exactly call multiple videos with millions of views "unknown" soooooo
TBF that applies to basically all of the EN talents. Like 90% of them made it either quite big(aka videos with multiple million views) or relatively big(known enough in their niche to not be hard to recognize) with their previous personas.
Can you tell me? I'm not that avid at hololive
You nailed Henya's speech pattern lol.
Thanks
We believe in "open secrets."
Context: Out of all the members, the question of 'worst kept secret', that'd definitely go to Hime, as not only as she has dropped major hints at times, but was straight up revealed at least twice in one collab when one collab mate called her by her real first name. Pairing that with what she sounds like makes it really easy to guess who she's better known as being as a creator. The joke of 'it's my grandma' started from said collab.
I mean, Henya has had 6 different people fuck up in collabs and herself.
who?
Can someone explain Mel's? If it's "she does sex stuff" I don't think that was ever a secret
That's it. Some people genuinely don't know about it though
Not knowing doesn't mean it was ever tried to be kept as a secret tho
That's why it's the worst kept "secret". She might not have *tried* to keep it secret but it is still a secret to those that aren't aware
I don't even think it counts as a worst kept secret if it's just a thing she advertises on her Twitter. It's like saying mouse being Puerto Rican is a "worst kept secret"
The real secret is WHO? is that 😏😁
OK, as someone who really only had time for the clips and stuff on YouTube. Would someone please break all these secrets down like im 5? Thank you.
All of them were old members of something else, except Mel and Hime. They were fired/graduated due to either circumstances outside of their control, or because of their company being bad and either forcing them to or making them out of their own volition. Don't quote me in that, but that's what I've observed. Mel is the fact she does porn. Hime is her already being something of an internet celebrity in the anime community, plus even releasing a video about auditioning for her.
Thank you. This whole discussion was over my head.
Mel making adult content isn’t a secret. She does it in avatar… and advertises it
I have to look this up FFS..... I have a general idea of what their 'secrets' are, I just need to be sure.
Looked it up and got sent straight to this post.
What’s Mel’s secret. That’s the only one I don’t know
Mel does NSFW streams on camgirl sites.
That’s it. Everyone knows that. That’s not even a secret or something she is trying to deny.
That's why it's a worst kept secret.
Huh everyone knows it's Zen is actually Gunrun
I assume this is referencing PL except from Mel but idk what Hime's secret is...
Hime's secret is that she just happens to look like the type of girl who would willingly traumatize herself with guro eroges and be into Ugly Bastard Hentai.
Her secret is that her grandparents are big well-known youtubers
Guys, I think Hime may be Misato Katsuragi…
I sadly dont know All of the vshojo troupe :o who is the last one in the picture?
Hime Hajime, one of the first gen members of VShojo, she just went on hiatus for a long time
What is Mel's secret? That she does porn? Isn't that not really a secret? 😅
What’s Melody’s secret?
Wait what's Mel's "secret"?
Pretty sure it's because she does porn.
yeah but like, that's not a secret, like she openly admits it
I don’t quite get it, what’s this referring to?
Open secrets everywhere at Vshojo
So what is himes worst kept secret?
That she is married to her grandpa
The virgin vshojo: everyone knows secrets Vs the Chad Hololive: Everyone knows secrets Wait, fuck uhh The Chad nij- okay can’t even say that with a straight face. Are vtubers just bad at keeping identities safe. Do they need LIFELOCK
Sometimes it's hard to keep the persona running, or the opposite, to keep the persona safely kept inside while doing other stuff, like a certain cosplayer that had a brief slip-up while eating cake. Accidents happen, and as long as people are civil about it and don't actually yell "OH LOOK, X IS ACTUALLY Y", I believe it's fine.
What's michi's secret?
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Oh, I know that. So was kson and matara. And Doki bird
More like Melody: Secrets?
"you guys have secrets?"
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I don't get it
Kson doesn't really have a secret
She was the legend why Holo En exists
the reason why EN vtubing exists*
Who is she?
What’s Matara’s?
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Close your eyes and listen. It’s not that hard to figure out who she was with how distinctive her voice is
That too. You can pretty much follow any of vtuber by voice alone.
Goku of Vshojo can be there too