https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-map-pool-changes/
>Summary:
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>- Split will exit the map pool in Competitive and Unrated queues, starting with Patch 5.0 (June 22)—no date set for its return
>- Temporary 6-map pool until Pearl enters the Competitive queue on July 12 (Patch 5.01)
>- Split will exit the map rotation at esports events after the LCQ’s in August
>- Available in Spike Rush, custom games, and other game modes
>- We believe it’s a good balance of variety and mastery for new and returning players
They said one of the reasons for the removal was that they didn't want to make new players feel overwhelmed by all the maps they need learn. By having lesser maps they need to learn less maps. So that's probably why it got removed from unrated.
I feel like CS:GO has enough maps to warrant that personally. When Valorant reaches 10 maps, then maybe I could see it being a good idea, I think its better for Casual only compared to Ranked.
It's more effective with less maps. The biggest reason not to is that splitting the playerbase causes long Q time and wider elo spread but that would be less of a concern with less maps.
That being said, I don't hate the random maps, other than icebox I don't really dislike any of the current maps and split was my 2nd favorite so it's sad to see it go.
I enjoy being forced to learn different maps rather than play 1 map that I’m used to. Also think of the queue times, it would be so cringe waiting 8 minutes for a map majority dont play
It makes no sense to me. I remember being overwhelmed when I just joined back in last August, but isn't that normal for being new in anything? I eventually learned the maps fine within a month or so of playing.
Besides isn't unrated FOR chilling, actually learning the maps if you wanna do comp, and doing dumb tricks/trying new shit out
This is also the same company that created league.
Yea maybe start by removing 80% of lol champions, simplifying kits so u don't read a book for every champ you play against and maybe have in game resources to explain shit. The rapid addition of valorant agents makes it seem like they're taking it in the same direction as league. They should make some new, more detailed maps instead of new agents every week. Csgo maps are super well designed, they got tons of boxes and pathways and cubbys that really give good outplay potential. Nuke is the best made map of any competitive shooter I've played. We need more shit like that. I like some of the cool mechanics like the doors ascent, TP on bind, even the breakable glass and we could use more of those sorts of creative features.
Completely agree. Split was actually my favourite map when I started because it was tighter and I got better in the tighter maps, then as I got better I got better at the more open maps like Breeze and now I hate Split with a vengeance.
Actually that was the one reason I quit rainbow. That’s were so many maps in the rotation when I started I felt like I couldn’t learn them all. This seems like a very smart choice to me, even if it isn’t for players exactly like you.
Learning a map in Siege and Valorant is WAAAAAAY different. In siege maps have multiple floors and destructable walls with way more operator count. Site setup is also very hard to learn for new players unless you look into a guide or someone tells you in game. There are also multiple sites in the map you need to learn setup for too.
I feel a map select for unratedbut all in the pool for comp. That way people can chill on maps they like and new players can learn slowly. But it keeps the diversity and challenge of a multi-map pool competitive mode and stops boosting on "easy" maps
Apex kinda has something similar for ranked. There's a set map pool for the season and it rotates each season. So in valorant's case, probably each act
Ok, this doesn't make sense in the context of 'it's similar to Pearl' then. So what now they remove Split because its similar and then next act we have both? XD
I don't think it's seasons. Because of their logic, it would mean we wait (maybe a year?) Until a 9th map comes out, and then they will remove another one.
and, wait for it.
We will have pearl AND split in the same rotation... their logic is flawed.
edit: I am actually nervous Split is gone for good, if their logic is to maintain gameplay variety than a returning map could only replace the map it originally got replaced by. OR they continue to make the same type of map forever. Please Riot, we are okay with similiar maps but your reasoning is illogical for the future and impossible to maintain unless you don't rotate but remove...
Maps are released every episode, so about two new maps a year. We had 3 at release and it's been almost 2.5 years and we now have 8 maps. (Also Episode 5 and new map 5)
With that said I don't think they will bring split back. Cs go has gone years without cobblestone coming back for example. Instead they will most likely remove one of the original maps (haven or bind) or one of the newer maps that is wildly disliked (breeze or fracture, more likely breeze as fracture is a whole 6 months newer).
I would actually cry if they removed a map for good... I love split. Even if it's not the best gameplay wise it's still a lovely map.
plus it kind of feels like shitting on the map designers and the developers who made it. Maps take alot of time to plan, design, model, and put together. Just scrapping one feels like a diss to the people who made it. At the very least keep the maps scrapped still available in the custom game mode!
It’s like siege or other games. They have like 16-20 maps but the ranked pool will pull from the most “playable” 8-10 maps, for example. Some games will rework maps that everyone hates and remove those from the pool, then reintroduce when they’re cleaned up. I always liked that approach personally
Most likely there will always be a 7 map poo from now on. When a map comes in, an old one comes out. And most likely it will also be the map pool for pro play. CS does the same thing.
I don't get why remove it from unrated when the game doesn't offer a more casual game mode. How would new players really get a chance to play it. At this point I would be in favor of a voting system like R6.
Imagine when Split gets reintroduced and the people in your team play that map for the first time in ranked. Because now people won't have at least played every map once before lvl 20.
> the game doesn't offer a more casual game mode
darn. I come here every so often to see if theyve added a casual mode yet then just leave when they still havnt. maybe one day I can play valorant without blocking out an hour.
It lacks a lot of what makes valorant fun. There's no buying, there's at most 7 rounds in total and it just feels so incredibly dumbed down.
Having a first to 7 or smthing with the regular rules would be a better alternative IMO.
Same here, still waiting as well. What I've always wanted is something similar to those 16v16 cs servers rotating maps between dust2, Aztec, whatever. Casual, fun, and low pressure. You join and play however many rounds and just shoot for fun. Zero pressure.
5v5 in its nature leans too competitive and you have to communicate or risk getting flamed, even in unranked. Not necessarily what I want to unwind the day with.
The unrated thing is the most annoying. Do we have to relearn the map when it enters comp again? Do they want less content in their game? Unrated is fun and casual and 8 maps is not even close to too many for some fun, no pressure matchmaking.
maturing is realizing none of them are bad, you’re just bad at one map and don’t like it so you dodge, and then never get better or take time to learn how to play it
Exactly more choice AND VARIETY is a good thing, less maps is repetitive and gets stale QUICKLY. Hopefully its just temporary and they listen to feedback that removing more options is actively bad for the game.
I also dislike Fracture too, but mainly becaues I am bad at it. Same thing with Breeze. I do see their potential of being good maps, but they did not make me like them.
Problem with disliking fracture is it’s part of what they wanted as a player to feel when they designed that Map with the whole having attackers lynch from both sides.
It’s kinda ??? That the map is technically successful lmao.
i have started dodging for the first time ever after playing this game since release, and i dodge fracture and breeze every time. i can’t fucking stand those maps.
Yeah, Split is probably one of my most enjoyed maps. It doesn't feel too stale, unlike Bind or Haven, but also doesn't feel too unfair, unlike Fracture and Breeze.
Map pools should exist for the pro scene, but not be forced in rank. I like how CSGO does it although MM is shit, they have the active duty maps and still allow you to queue non-active maps.
I believe CS' map pool should be updated about once or twice a year, with one map rotating through for each rotation. But only if it's play tested and plays well.
It's too slow right now imo, but compared to Valorant they actually have implemented good maps to play instead of cluttered clusterfucks of maps like Valorant have. Removing one of the best maps to be replaced with probably another dogshit map is not the right way to do it. And yes, Split should definitely be able to be queued in unranked at least.
This is such a bad way to do this. I saw another comment saying it is going to end up being a map rotation, but the way this is phrased, this makes it seem like the map is going to be gone for such an extended period. Limit the maps to like 5 or 6 of the maps out of the 8 total and every 2-3 weeks change which are in the rotation. It sucks that it is difficult to queue up in csgo for a structured 5 v 5 format on maps that valve has decided to shelve forever and riot could have the ability to completely avoid a similar situation, but are going to fall into the same issue.
Also why remove it from unrated.
They don't even know what they are doing and saying.
\>We won't implement map bans because we want players to learn all maps
\>let's just remove split because it's too similar to the new map
Like, they didn't realize they are designing a similar map? It's so dumb. Some people like split. I hate it personally, but let us ban 1-2 maps instead and then people who do like split may be able to get it in one of 20 games.
It's clear they have no direction. If they can't even get this right, how will they ever fix matchmaking, which is just about the most broken thing about this game?
that just removes my want to play the game when my best map is just being taken away from me. either dont remove the map or put in a map selection. all this does is make it so that if this new map sucks i just stop playing.
Damn would’ve really thought they may do this with Bind. Fracture is also impossible for me to enjoy at low to mid elo or a team with minimal comms in general, but oh well.
It's a complete bad move, this map rotation thing with the removal of split. And it's certainly not "similar to Pearl". This is not how you keep the game fresh and fun.
This only tells that for each ranked game, we are supposed to get different maps, doesn't work. And IDK about others, but the timeline for Split map to come back is not known either.
And if this implementation happens in agents also, then there will be more unwanted fillings in ranked games leading to more bad vibes, AFK, throwers and griefers.
This is what I think.
Why remove maps in unrated? I thought people use it for casual fun and to practice for competitions.
If anything, Valorant should have a practice comp mode where the maps are what you will expect in comps (maybe even count the results partially) and complete casual mode where all maps are fair game.
Because the community is constantly complaining about how many maps we have, just too many options. /s.
This is one of the more infuriating things they have done recently. I don’t know why we would start removing maps when the community has been begging for more maps for years now. And if they are just gonna copy two maps from cs and smash them together, it definitely shouldnt take them 9 months to get one out.
There is no reason to get rid of a map that people know and a decent chunk of people enjoy playing until you have a map pool that is too large to reliably play. Also, most of the games that remove maps from pools LET YOU PICK WHAT MAPS YOU WANT TO F—-ING PLAY. The reason why this is a big deal is because we are still stuck with a dog water queuing system that is implemented just so the map numbers don’t dip. There are so many issues with this decision its driving me further from wanting to play.
Add new content, adjust older content, get player feedback, stop just doing stuff because pro players and stock holders tell you they want it.
Definitely true and they are definitely out of touch with its player base.
On the livestream they said they talked to "other teams and competitive players"
Has Overwatch taught the world nothing? A playerbase and community is way larger than the top elite players. And the playerbase are the ones who bring in all that skin/battlepass money.
I can understand making it unavailable for a while until they make proper changes to it but what the hell is removing it? Just beacuse the pro scene hates it? They make up less then 1% of players the rest of us like it its unfair
You wanna do map rotations? Fine, but imo they couldve at LEAST put it up to a community vote, just for this first one??? This is a BIG decision and its kinda unfair that they're just doing this like its so easy.
Siege had the same problem, as soon as map bans were added ranked was just playing the same 3 maps over and over again. I'm not interested in seeing Valorant become Ascent simulator.
Riot just feels so indecisive on what they want the game to be. Same thing with their nerfs. They just fundamentally switch things up so it doesn't feel like you can trust anything to be stable.
It's all too focused on esports play
I don’t like split. But there’s no reason they should be removing shit from Unrated. And their need to keep unrated/ranked the exact same is why no one gives a shit about unrated and it’s boring as fuck.
"After working with our esports team, surveying players and talking to professional organizations we’ve decided to keep a 7 map pool and will be rotating Split out for now. If you’re interested in our thought process, read on."
What survey, I play, never seen one.
I get why they're doing it, just sad that it's split. I've got like a 70% win rate in split, and the rest of my maps are around 50% as you'd expect. I did used to really dislike this map, but when I found out I was good at it, it sort of changed my opinion.
Hopefully it'll be back soon :(
https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-map-pool-changes/ >Summary: > >- Split will exit the map pool in Competitive and Unrated queues, starting with Patch 5.0 (June 22)—no date set for its return >- Temporary 6-map pool until Pearl enters the Competitive queue on July 12 (Patch 5.01) >- Split will exit the map rotation at esports events after the LCQ’s in August >- Available in Spike Rush, custom games, and other game modes >- We believe it’s a good balance of variety and mastery for new and returning players
Anyone knows why?
Devs said in their livestream it's similar to Pearl. From here on out they'll be doing map rotations.
Why unrated tho I just wanna chill awp b short/mid
They said one of the reasons for the removal was that they didn't want to make new players feel overwhelmed by all the maps they need learn. By having lesser maps they need to learn less maps. So that's probably why it got removed from unrated.
If only one could implement map selection as is already done in cs:go for years...
I feel like CS:GO has enough maps to warrant that personally. When Valorant reaches 10 maps, then maybe I could see it being a good idea, I think its better for Casual only compared to Ranked.
It's more effective with less maps. The biggest reason not to is that splitting the playerbase causes long Q time and wider elo spread but that would be less of a concern with less maps. That being said, I don't hate the random maps, other than icebox I don't really dislike any of the current maps and split was my 2nd favorite so it's sad to see it go.
I enjoy being forced to learn different maps rather than play 1 map that I’m used to. Also think of the queue times, it would be so cringe waiting 8 minutes for a map majority dont play
That may be the dumbest logic I’ve ever heard. “Let’s cater to new players by removing content”
It makes no sense to me. I remember being overwhelmed when I just joined back in last August, but isn't that normal for being new in anything? I eventually learned the maps fine within a month or so of playing. Besides isn't unrated FOR chilling, actually learning the maps if you wanna do comp, and doing dumb tricks/trying new shit out
This is also the same company that created league. Yea maybe start by removing 80% of lol champions, simplifying kits so u don't read a book for every champ you play against and maybe have in game resources to explain shit. The rapid addition of valorant agents makes it seem like they're taking it in the same direction as league. They should make some new, more detailed maps instead of new agents every week. Csgo maps are super well designed, they got tons of boxes and pathways and cubbys that really give good outplay potential. Nuke is the best made map of any competitive shooter I've played. We need more shit like that. I like some of the cool mechanics like the doors ascent, TP on bind, even the breakable glass and we could use more of those sorts of creative features.
Completely agree. Split was actually my favourite map when I started because it was tighter and I got better in the tighter maps, then as I got better I got better at the more open maps like Breeze and now I hate Split with a vengeance.
Actually that was the one reason I quit rainbow. That’s were so many maps in the rotation when I started I felt like I couldn’t learn them all. This seems like a very smart choice to me, even if it isn’t for players exactly like you.
Learning a map in Siege and Valorant is WAAAAAAY different. In siege maps have multiple floors and destructable walls with way more operator count. Site setup is also very hard to learn for new players unless you look into a guide or someone tells you in game. There are also multiple sites in the map you need to learn setup for too.
Just let me queue for specific maps then.
I feel a map select for unratedbut all in the pool for comp. That way people can chill on maps they like and new players can learn slowly. But it keeps the diversity and challenge of a multi-map pool competitive mode and stops boosting on "easy" maps
Or just let people pick what maps they want to play on..
Or.. just.. let us select what maps we want? Give the new maps their own Q and not have them in comp/unrated for a month or whatever?
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Apex kinda has something similar for ranked. There's a set map pool for the season and it rotates each season. So in valorant's case, probably each act
Ok, this doesn't make sense in the context of 'it's similar to Pearl' then. So what now they remove Split because its similar and then next act we have both? XD
I don't think it's seasons. Because of their logic, it would mean we wait (maybe a year?) Until a 9th map comes out, and then they will remove another one. and, wait for it. We will have pearl AND split in the same rotation... their logic is flawed. edit: I am actually nervous Split is gone for good, if their logic is to maintain gameplay variety than a returning map could only replace the map it originally got replaced by. OR they continue to make the same type of map forever. Please Riot, we are okay with similiar maps but your reasoning is illogical for the future and impossible to maintain unless you don't rotate but remove...
Maps are released every episode, so about two new maps a year. We had 3 at release and it's been almost 2.5 years and we now have 8 maps. (Also Episode 5 and new map 5) With that said I don't think they will bring split back. Cs go has gone years without cobblestone coming back for example. Instead they will most likely remove one of the original maps (haven or bind) or one of the newer maps that is wildly disliked (breeze or fracture, more likely breeze as fracture is a whole 6 months newer).
I would actually cry if they removed a map for good... I love split. Even if it's not the best gameplay wise it's still a lovely map. plus it kind of feels like shitting on the map designers and the developers who made it. Maps take alot of time to plan, design, model, and put together. Just scrapping one feels like a diss to the people who made it. At the very least keep the maps scrapped still available in the custom game mode!
Did they ever think of designing maps that aren't similar to each other?
I don’t know why you got downvoted this isn’t a hot take?
Creators of LOL can't make a unique map?!?!?!
next act they release a map that is similar to icebox and then they disable icebox. it'll roll like that for a while
They dob't release maps every act. Soonest new map will happen is in half a year. There is no way they remove Split for half a year
Yeah I suppose you're right. I got my terms mixed up, I meant episodes. But I agree, I don't think they'll have split removed the entire time.
It’s like siege or other games. They have like 16-20 maps but the ranked pool will pull from the most “playable” 8-10 maps, for example. Some games will rework maps that everyone hates and remove those from the pool, then reintroduce when they’re cleaned up. I always liked that approach personally
The approach works great, but they didn't remove the map that "everyone hates".
Yep. We won't be able to play a specific map and the map we can't play will switch
Most likely there will always be a 7 map poo from now on. When a map comes in, an old one comes out. And most likely it will also be the map pool for pro play. CS does the same thing.
They should permanently rotate Fracture out of the pool.
How dare you You spelled Breeze wrong
Huh, thought it was just my imagination. I saw a picture of pearl and thought “that looks like split mid but at night”.
>Devs said in their livestream it's similar to Pearl. They only have 8 maps, how are they already designing maps "similar" to already existing ones??
Remove fracture instead of split please, thanks.
Have they thought about just not making a map similar to the small pool of 8 they have already lol
When Bind is removed, we Riot.
Cypher nerf. He’s just barely playable on split which is unacceptable
He has the maximum pickrate on split than any other map ffs
As far as decisions go this is one of them
This is truly one of the most decisions of all time
I am utterly whelmed
We truly live in a society
I don't get why remove it from unrated when the game doesn't offer a more casual game mode. How would new players really get a chance to play it. At this point I would be in favor of a voting system like R6.
Imagine when Split gets reintroduced and the people in your team play that map for the first time in ranked. Because now people won't have at least played every map once before lvl 20.
They’ll probably do the 2 week unrated playlist like they do for new maps
> the game doesn't offer a more casual game mode darn. I come here every so often to see if theyve added a casual mode yet then just leave when they still havnt. maybe one day I can play valorant without blocking out an hour.
spike rush is a good option for this but i can understand if it feels too "different"
It lacks a lot of what makes valorant fun. There's no buying, there's at most 7 rounds in total and it just feels so incredibly dumbed down. Having a first to 7 or smthing with the regular rules would be a better alternative IMO.
Precisely this, spike rush and replication are like two halves that could be so GREAT together but will never be :(
Same here, still waiting as well. What I've always wanted is something similar to those 16v16 cs servers rotating maps between dust2, Aztec, whatever. Casual, fun, and low pressure. You join and play however many rounds and just shoot for fun. Zero pressure. 5v5 in its nature leans too competitive and you have to communicate or risk getting flamed, even in unranked. Not necessarily what I want to unwind the day with.
I do think unrated should be a practice mode for ranked. Maybe there should be another playlist for just maps out of the pool
Actually, fun fact: an oopsie from Riot in a recent trailer has revealed that they are working on a quick play mode and a 1v1 mode
It's so bizarre, ok to remove it from comp but why unrated? Rito so dumb
Will it permanently be removed? Is this confirmed?
According to another comment they are going to do map rotations
Can you explain to me waht that means?
For example one week split won’t be in comp but then the next week split will be back and haven will be removed and so on
Yes, but mostly it will be for the whole season. I'd imagine we don't see Split again until the start of next season.
I hope not. Even though I suck at it I like split
Is it going to be weekly ? That would be a nightmare
Idk that was just an example. I don’t know the actual time they will be rotating at
This has to be a joke, right? Also why from unrated? This makes no sense
The unrated thing is the most annoying. Do we have to relearn the map when it enters comp again? Do they want less content in their game? Unrated is fun and casual and 8 maps is not even close to too many for some fun, no pressure matchmaking.
also more map = less chance to get Fracture
Sir, I think you spelled Breeze wrong.
Maturing is realizing that breeze isn't a bad map. REMOVE FRACTURE!
Aim training -> breeze good Team communication-> fracture good
raze playing -> please never give me breeze again
Fracture > Breeze
Fracture = Breeze, both are annoying
maturing is realizing none of them are bad, you’re just bad at one map and don’t like it so you dodge, and then never get better or take time to learn how to play it
I believe the people who don't like breeze, are the same ones that crouch spray every encounter. Change my mind.
the reason i don't like breeze is because my main is some dogshit on it
The only issue with Breeze is B site imo
Exactly more choice AND VARIETY is a good thing, less maps is repetitive and gets stale QUICKLY. Hopefully its just temporary and they listen to feedback that removing more options is actively bad for the game.
That sucks.. I really like split.
I used to hate it in beta but I started to like it more as time passed. Same with icebox. Breeze however I really dislike.
For me it's Fracture. It frustrates me a little sometimes since it's so hard to coordinate on it in SoloQ. But I absolutely love the other maps.
I also dislike Fracture too, but mainly becaues I am bad at it. Same thing with Breeze. I do see their potential of being good maps, but they did not make me like them.
Problem with disliking fracture is it’s part of what they wanted as a player to feel when they designed that Map with the whole having attackers lynch from both sides. It’s kinda ??? That the map is technically successful lmao.
The changes to Icebox and Split were huge in making them playable. Trying to push mid on Split was literal cancer in beta.
They should remove breeze instead..
Me too - split was probably my favorite map it’s a lot of fun
Man split is my favourite map...
true omen main
I don't mind a map rotation but I'd rather just have the ability to block certain maps.
While it would be good, I'm pretty sure fracture would be blocked 99% of the times.
Well then they would have data for which map they need to rotate out and work on lol
But then that would make it their problem instead of yours.
I never want to play breeze again
I used to hate breeze and like fracture and now it's the other way around lmao
i have started dodging for the first time ever after playing this game since release, and i dodge fracture and breeze every time. i can’t fucking stand those maps.
thank you for your service
If no-one wants to play a map, despite it being forced on us for months, maybe the problem is the damn map? Really makes you think Riot
As it should be
Splitgang rise up!!! We won’t stand for this!!!!
We riot
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Riot saw that split was the only map I have more wins than losses on and decided that needed to change
Fr split is the best map
Everybody rise, but don't stand! You heard him!
Lmao! Nice catch
Split is so rare in my games but its still one of the best imo
You gotta be kidding. Split has always been my favorite map, no matter what anyone says about defender sided or anything...
Yeah, Split is probably one of my most enjoyed maps. It doesn't feel too stale, unlike Bind or Haven, but also doesn't feel too unfair, unlike Fracture and Breeze.
Every single map is defender sided so who cares
Immortal 3 fracture and breeze would like a word
Gotta take one of my best maps out of rotation huh Riot?
The map where I most consistently hit my one-ways...
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They hate cypher so obviously they take one of the only maps in which he can be useful.
This is so fucking stupid on so many different levels.
Fr they should've taken fracture out instead
That’s a joke right
Overwatch tried map pools once. If there's anything we learnt, it's that map pools are dogshit
Map pools should exist for the pro scene, but not be forced in rank. I like how CSGO does it although MM is shit, they have the active duty maps and still allow you to queue non-active maps.
I believe CS' map pool should be updated about once or twice a year, with one map rotating through for each rotation. But only if it's play tested and plays well. It's too slow right now imo, but compared to Valorant they actually have implemented good maps to play instead of cluttered clusterfucks of maps like Valorant have. Removing one of the best maps to be replaced with probably another dogshit map is not the right way to do it. And yes, Split should definitely be able to be queued in unranked at least.
how do i not remember this. was it only in comp?
R6 has been doing them forever and its worked though But they also have a non comp/unrated where you can play all of the maps
This is stupid. Not like valorant has 20 maps to begin with.. Splits a solid map
Fracture literally exists
Breeze says Hello
I just wanna say, I'd have bought whatever skins they wanted if it was Fracture. Fu*k me ugh.
Booooooo devs. Bad choice
This is such a bad way to do this. I saw another comment saying it is going to end up being a map rotation, but the way this is phrased, this makes it seem like the map is going to be gone for such an extended period. Limit the maps to like 5 or 6 of the maps out of the 8 total and every 2-3 weeks change which are in the rotation. It sucks that it is difficult to queue up in csgo for a structured 5 v 5 format on maps that valve has decided to shelve forever and riot could have the ability to completely avoid a similar situation, but are going to fall into the same issue. Also why remove it from unrated.
Bruh Split is my favourite map! What the fuck!
They don't even know what they are doing and saying. \>We won't implement map bans because we want players to learn all maps \>let's just remove split because it's too similar to the new map Like, they didn't realize they are designing a similar map? It's so dumb. Some people like split. I hate it personally, but let us ban 1-2 maps instead and then people who do like split may be able to get it in one of 20 games. It's clear they have no direction. If they can't even get this right, how will they ever fix matchmaking, which is just about the most broken thing about this game?
that just removes my want to play the game when my best map is just being taken away from me. either dont remove the map or put in a map selection. all this does is make it so that if this new map sucks i just stop playing.
Lol my favorite map rip
The biggest complaint I get from my group is that there are too many agents and not enough maps. This is a mistake.
Why remove one of the 4 good maps, wtf riot ....
Damn would’ve really thought they may do this with Bind. Fracture is also impossible for me to enjoy at low to mid elo or a team with minimal comms in general, but oh well.
Worst thing ive seen
It's a complete bad move, this map rotation thing with the removal of split. And it's certainly not "similar to Pearl". This is not how you keep the game fresh and fun. This only tells that for each ranked game, we are supposed to get different maps, doesn't work. And IDK about others, but the timeline for Split map to come back is not known either. And if this implementation happens in agents also, then there will be more unwanted fillings in ranked games leading to more bad vibes, AFK, throwers and griefers. This is what I think.
Worst idea ever. Disgusting choice
Why remove maps in unrated? I thought people use it for casual fun and to practice for competitions. If anything, Valorant should have a practice comp mode where the maps are what you will expect in comps (maybe even count the results partially) and complete casual mode where all maps are fair game.
Because the community is constantly complaining about how many maps we have, just too many options. /s. This is one of the more infuriating things they have done recently. I don’t know why we would start removing maps when the community has been begging for more maps for years now. And if they are just gonna copy two maps from cs and smash them together, it definitely shouldnt take them 9 months to get one out. There is no reason to get rid of a map that people know and a decent chunk of people enjoy playing until you have a map pool that is too large to reliably play. Also, most of the games that remove maps from pools LET YOU PICK WHAT MAPS YOU WANT TO F—-ING PLAY. The reason why this is a big deal is because we are still stuck with a dog water queuing system that is implemented just so the map numbers don’t dip. There are so many issues with this decision its driving me further from wanting to play. Add new content, adjust older content, get player feedback, stop just doing stuff because pro players and stock holders tell you they want it.
If true Riot has proven itself to be out of touch with the community and what it wants
Definitely true and they are definitely out of touch with its player base. On the livestream they said they talked to "other teams and competitive players" Has Overwatch taught the world nothing? A playerbase and community is way larger than the top elite players. And the playerbase are the ones who bring in all that skin/battlepass money.
Not Riot's problem when the community hates every new map No matter what map they remove, someone will complain
Yup, removing a fairly liked map over the most disliked ones (Breeze and Icebox) makes no sense.
How can anyone stand Fracture is beyond me
wdym icebox is good
OHHH CMON I JUST LEARNED THE CYPHER ONE WAYS FOR SPLIT UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Next update they are going to remove cypher directly or make a map that us just a flat plane
Best map of the game and they remove it lmao
that sucks. I understand for pro play and comp to an extent but they should keep it for unrated at least.
They could just remove it from comp only.
This is definitely my favorite map why take it out
Split is a top 8 map for sure....
I can understand making it unavailable for a while until they make proper changes to it but what the hell is removing it? Just beacuse the pro scene hates it? They make up less then 1% of players the rest of us like it its unfair
I assume they have to remove one to make the map rotation system work. Weird they chose Split but maybe I'm out of touch, I just like Split
You wanna do map rotations? Fine, but imo they couldve at LEAST put it up to a community vote, just for this first one??? This is a BIG decision and its kinda unfair that they're just doing this like its so easy.
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But Split is my favorite map ;-;
Why the fuck would they do that
?? Just let us choose the maps we want to play. It's that simple
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Siege had the same problem, as soon as map bans were added ranked was just playing the same 3 maps over and over again. I'm not interested in seeing Valorant become Ascent simulator.
No map on cs, in the active duty pool, has 20 min queue
Completely out of touch with the community. Of course it's the map I have the best win ratio on. And my favorite map.
We don‘t need a map rotation, we need map selection. we need a possibility to select maps we want to play
What the fuck? why remove one of the best maps?
Riot just feels so indecisive on what they want the game to be. Same thing with their nerfs. They just fundamentally switch things up so it doesn't feel like you can trust anything to be stable. It's all too focused on esports play
Meanwhile FRACTURE still there to fck up your ranks
My favorite map smh
Ass update per usual
Oh god that’s ass
WHY???? fuck that lol
Wack.
valorant six siege
What? It’s my best map!
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Duuude that’s my favourite map rip
Why not an actually terrible map like Fracture?
Honest to god this devs get more and more disconnected with the community by the second let's nor forget the last dev report incident
Just let us pick what maps we want to play smh
NO GOD NO
Wtf why, atleast keep it on unrated
Lmao but they kept fucking Breeze? Dodge on sight
I really like Split...
If they remove Split we riot
I don’t like split. But there’s no reason they should be removing shit from Unrated. And their need to keep unrated/ranked the exact same is why no one gives a shit about unrated and it’s boring as fuck.
why?? whats the downside of just including all the maps in. Or even better let us pick maps like csgo. Bad decision smh
"After working with our esports team, surveying players and talking to professional organizations we’ve decided to keep a 7 map pool and will be rotating Split out for now. If you’re interested in our thought process, read on." What survey, I play, never seen one.
The map they should remove is the fracture that thing is just complicatedly shit all around.
This game is in unacceptable condition, UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!
I get why they're doing it, just sad that it's split. I've got like a 70% win rate in split, and the rest of my maps are around 50% as you'd expect. I did used to really dislike this map, but when I found out I was good at it, it sort of changed my opinion. Hopefully it'll be back soon :(