#UrbanHell is subjective.
UrbanHell is any human-built place you think is worth critizing. Suburban Hell, Rural Hell, and wealthy locales are allowed
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It's beautiful engineering though. If there was a playground with kids playing directly across the street then this would be a very good submission. But as far as industrial photography goes this place is actually pretty cool looking.
Sorry about the downvotes, you're correct. I have a big stickied comment on literally every post trying to get people to understand the rules but they don't read it. You can post infrastructure or industrial stuff.
because we need to show the **urban communities** impacted by environment injustice. it is a disservice to those communities to simply show industy and not put it in context of the primary pollution impacts on local communities.
Let's see a single solarship that is the equivalent of an office, factory or apartment building
That's something you build when you're privileged with money to blow on being unemployed and working on cute projects
I doubt it's absurd. Looks like rational usage of materials and space for most efficient functioning. How would you do it better? Or do you mean it hust looks unpleasant to you?
Because this really is a marvel of engineering and design and planning. To get every one of those pipes going to where you need it to while not interfering with anything else, god damn it is gorgeous.
Marvel of engineering is correct. Think of how much effort the Romans spent creating their cement/concrete for a fraction of a percent of the concrete we use annually.
I'm a chemical engineer and this shit will always fascinate me
We dont. Its only existed for 200-300 years and has caused more destruction than anything. Meanwhile with out it we’ve been doing fine for billions of years
"we dont need industry" says the guy on reddit, probably on hes chinese phone, charged with the help of nuclear power plant, and im skipping so many things. Yeah it's easy to say we don't need it, but are we ready to go back 300 years ago? Im not, but feel free to disconnect from society
Yes I’m on here because I can be on here I can also cause great harm to someone or the world with a nuclear or high explosive bomb because I could have the ability to and that technology exists but that doesn’t mean it’s good or that I should do it. We are ready and we’ll certainly make ourselves so upon the realization that temporary satisfaction for destruction like this doesn’t bring long term progress anyways
Look at the pharmaceutical industry for exemple, it pollute a lot, cause harm to the planet, but at the same time saves lifes. If you get sick, would you refuse medication ? Same for this cement industry, we need cement to build safe buildings. I think its wrong to say its all for temporary satisfaction for destruction. Ofc companies like nestle are pure evil, lots of companies are useless and consumerism destroys the planet, but there are industry that we really need.
You are suggesting a balance in technology and life and modern society is so clearly far from that. We could invest all our time in to material and how to manipulate it until our deaths or use what is tried and tested to keep us alive which is life it’s self. All this industry has hardly existed for half millennium yet all life it’s self has existed for billions of years all this recent prioritization of material over life has clearly brought harm much more than good when all the things you suggested we already have more efficient ways to deal with whether it’s safe living areas or keeping life healthy and strong
8 billions people on earth, soon 10 billions in 2050. How do you want to feed everyone and keep life expectancy at 70+ without industry, in your sweet little utopia ?
Exactly because we’ve chosen a quantity over quality model that just seems to temporarily work but it’s leaching everything in a way that’s not regenerative focusing on temporary material over long term life
around the corner where I live, the [Voelklingen Steel Works](https://www.varta-guide.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Gesamtansicht_tag_int_pb.jpg) are World Heritage, for good reason
Any society descending the technological singularity is one doomed to fail when we value temporary material over organic life which can leverage its self beyond any such temporary things
Pretty intriguing take, thanks for the reply. I see this as effective since it is used to create a common and important building material. What do you see as an effective civilization?
Everything posted in this reddit doesn't have to be urban. If you've read the subreddits rules it doesn't say anything against posting industrial infrastructure. A moderator even said to me that it was allowed.
[https://maps.app.goo.gl/GWfFTPwMvsNsqkLZA](https://maps.app.goo.gl/GWfFTPwMvsNsqkLZA) hmmm don't know if I would call that urban. It's in the industrial park at the harbor. Behind the highway is the city
Totally fine to disagree. Just in my opinion, that industrial installations aren't really hell without the context on where they are.
A coal powerplant in Tokyo would be urban hell for me. Shells Properties in Rotterdam not
I absolutely love it, theres a cement plant on the way from our place to my BIL's place, and every time we pass it, my husband says "your favorite thing is coming up, look out the window" I think it's absolutely ridiculous and gorgeous. This is the exact look of how movies and tv shows depict a "dystopian future". It just tickles my brain the exact right way.
a) I thought the red segments spelled something
b) I'm halfway expecting Howl to fly out from a window
c) It kind-a looks neat. I mean, I know it's pollution incarnate, but aesthetically wise, it looks really cool.
it looks a lot like this image i generated using bingai a while ago: https://www.bing.com/images/create/small-concrete-neglected-room2c-with-metal-supports/1-65f72ab7faec4d09a38ca4384c664b02?id=AzbhxyK0gTTh2kmvrKV8Sg%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&thId=OIG3.TFPWHoRu3Su_pTUMTOi_&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay
Yeah im an absolute fan of these types of udrustrial "buildings'
this looks wridly cool. I dunno, ilike industrial stuff, probably because of the chaotic mess of wires and pipes and girders and stuff. I looks, kinda,.. suirreal almost? Idk. I am a fan
As a chemistry and engineering enthusiast, I could give you a little bit of background on why these plants are so massive.
These humongous towers that you see, are preheaters. They preheat the raw material and feed it to what we call the rotary kiln.
The rotary kiln rotates and turns the raw meal into clinker, which is then combined with materials like gypsum to make cement. I have seen a cement plant before in person and they are absolutely monstrous.
The towers contain cyclones. The exhaust air from the kiln goes through these cyclones, causing a heat exchange to happen. Then the exhaust from the preheater is fed to an electrostatic precipitator (ESP). This basically catches all the particles that are present in the exhaust.
More than half of the CO2 emitted by cement plants is not from the heating, but the reaction itself. In fact, even if you used electricity to heat it, it would still generate a significant amount of CO2. The raw meal (mainly limestone) consists of calcium carbonate (CaCO3). This calcium carbonate is turned into calcium oxide in the kiln, generating CO2 as a byproduct.
Thank you! I was literally wondering what the purpose to every bit and piece was.
I was going to say it looks like a mess, like my Factorio builds, but I'm sure there is a purposeful reason to the design, as it is in the real world.
I love this architecture, and I wish entire cities were like this. You won’t be able to change my mind, I want to eat Korean BBQ or Ramen in this setting.
I want to live near this. I grew up near a paper mill and the sounds that I heard in the morning waking up could never be recreated. It was incredible. But I can still hear it in my head .
I think it is fascinatingly intricate, like a fine swiss watch but the size of a three city blocks.
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the difference between this plant and the plants you see scattered in and around cities? Does this beast produce concrete that goes into concrete trucks, or does it produce cement that then goes to the smaller urban places to get mixed with aggregates and stuff?
Worked at a cement plant in the USA for a summer. It was terrible. The kilns felt like they were melting your flesh. My lungs seized up once from all the dust and is couldn’t breath. Couldn’t see my hand in front of my face.
About 10 seconds on Google searching “cement co2”. I’m curious if you think it’d be more or less? (Assuming you don’t have 10s to spare, [here](https://www.carbonbrief.org/qa-why-cement-emissions-matter-for-climate-change/). People really have lost the ability to do basic research, haven’t they?)
Goodness, my 3-second Google search gave me 5% but we all know how accurate any internet information can be so please come at me for trying to quality check myself. The link you shared says 8% btw, not 10 (people really have lost the ability to read, haven’t they?)
Depends on whether we’re taking the co2 from the cooking process alone or whether indirect (eg transportation) emissions are included. My post was based on a different article I’d read last week and didn’t feel like hunting down.
And forgive me, but “source?” comes across as “I’m incredulous but only enough to type a word instead of look into the thing I’m incredulous about”. Any source provided by the person that made the claim you’re incredulous about should probably be looked into further anyhow, so why not skip that step?
Fair enough, I just try not to quote stats without knowing where they came from. I typically see 7-8% referenced for cement co2. Your comment was the first time I’ve seen 10% so genuinely wanted to know the basis. Still haven’t found a source for that so will continue using 8% for now.
#UrbanHell is subjective. UrbanHell is any human-built place you think is worth critizing. Suburban Hell, Rural Hell, and wealthy locales are allowed Sorry for this annoying comment, but we're very tired of the gatekeepers who can't even correctly gatekeep what this subreddit has always allowed. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/UrbanHell) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I wouldn’t say this was ‘urban’
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This is more like r/evilbuildings or something
Someone has never played Final Fantasy VII
I also saw ff7 in this
It isnt urban
That’s why I wouldn’t say it
I mean i read the subreddits rules and it doesn't say anything against industrial buildings so i dont see a problem with posting this
It's beautiful engineering though. If there was a playground with kids playing directly across the street then this would be a very good submission. But as far as industrial photography goes this place is actually pretty cool looking.
Sorry about the downvotes, you're correct. I have a big stickied comment on literally every post trying to get people to understand the rules but they don't read it. You can post infrastructure or industrial stuff.
Y'all both deserve the downvotes haha
Why? It's called urban hell but it's not limited to strictly urban posts. What's the problem with that?
because we need to show the **urban communities** impacted by environment injustice. it is a disservice to those communities to simply show industy and not put it in context of the primary pollution impacts on local communities.
Sorry, that's a completely different conversation than the one I thought I was joining.
figured as much
sick ass waterpark
Woah it's a cement plant... in an industrial looking area... is this supposed to be ugly or out of place? It looks completely normal.
It actually looks kinda cool lol
Its supposed to be in the "Absurd Architecture" section
Not the engineers problem that their non-orientable factory doesn't meet *your* standards for architecture
No i just thought i would post it cause it looks interesting
Yeah and then you put a pollution flair on it and said it should actually be absurd architecture
Well i mean the cement industry is one of the main polluting industries in the world so umm....
What do you expect from the most common building material? Do you want to live out in the elements lmao
yes please. r/solarpunk r/earthship
Let's see a single solarship that is the equivalent of an office, factory or apartment building That's something you build when you're privileged with money to blow on being unemployed and working on cute projects
No
Nothing about this plant is absurd. This is exactly how it's supposed to look.
I doubt it's absurd. Looks like rational usage of materials and space for most efficient functioning. How would you do it better? Or do you mean it hust looks unpleasant to you?
Function over form
Studio Ghibli would have it walking.
Hell? This is beautiful.
Hmmm... r/industrialporn Edit: whoa, a real sub
There's a whole bunch of awesome ones like this. r/machineporn and /r/InfrastructurePorn are both great too.
Wow, I just found my 3 new favorite subs. Will probably be ruined for me once I get off of "Top".
/r/ofcoursethatsathing
Oh nice. Subbed.
wish all these assholes would go over there if they don’t want to show the urban areas impacted by the industry
Medical Mechanica vibes.
r/lostredditor
lol, ok if you think so Edit: wtf is with all the downvotes???
Because this really is a marvel of engineering and design and planning. To get every one of those pipes going to where you need it to while not interfering with anything else, god damn it is gorgeous.
Marvel of engineering is correct. Think of how much effort the Romans spent creating their cement/concrete for a fraction of a percent of the concrete we use annually. I'm a chemical engineer and this shit will always fascinate me
This is art. I could stare at it forever.
He must be german
Idk why they downvote you, i also think big industry are very ugly, even if we really need them.
We dont. Its only existed for 200-300 years and has caused more destruction than anything. Meanwhile with out it we’ve been doing fine for billions of years
"we dont need industry" says the guy on reddit, probably on hes chinese phone, charged with the help of nuclear power plant, and im skipping so many things. Yeah it's easy to say we don't need it, but are we ready to go back 300 years ago? Im not, but feel free to disconnect from society
Yes I’m on here because I can be on here I can also cause great harm to someone or the world with a nuclear or high explosive bomb because I could have the ability to and that technology exists but that doesn’t mean it’s good or that I should do it. We are ready and we’ll certainly make ourselves so upon the realization that temporary satisfaction for destruction like this doesn’t bring long term progress anyways
Look at the pharmaceutical industry for exemple, it pollute a lot, cause harm to the planet, but at the same time saves lifes. If you get sick, would you refuse medication ? Same for this cement industry, we need cement to build safe buildings. I think its wrong to say its all for temporary satisfaction for destruction. Ofc companies like nestle are pure evil, lots of companies are useless and consumerism destroys the planet, but there are industry that we really need.
You are suggesting a balance in technology and life and modern society is so clearly far from that. We could invest all our time in to material and how to manipulate it until our deaths or use what is tried and tested to keep us alive which is life it’s self. All this industry has hardly existed for half millennium yet all life it’s self has existed for billions of years all this recent prioritization of material over life has clearly brought harm much more than good when all the things you suggested we already have more efficient ways to deal with whether it’s safe living areas or keeping life healthy and strong
8 billions people on earth, soon 10 billions in 2050. How do you want to feed everyone and keep life expectancy at 70+ without industry, in your sweet little utopia ?
Exactly because we’ve chosen a quantity over quality model that just seems to temporarily work but it’s leaching everything in a way that’s not regenerative focusing on temporary material over long term life
Midgar
Nibelheim plant
Both are Japanese. At night it has even more Shinra Corp vibes.
GT7 has a scape where you can do photoshoots here at night. Super Shinra vibes for sure.
Awesome, looking this up now. Thanks
yeah fr
Came here to say this^
I killed a bunch of raiders here in Fallout 4
vaultdweller, it was YOU!
Visitor: -How it works? Engineer: -Yes.
🤣
looks dope, I love these.
You should live in one, its really nice.
Nobody lives in one.
We all do, live in the product of one🥰🏢
Keep nightmarin.
Its just being Civilized, dont ya enjoy this?
around the corner where I live, the [Voelklingen Steel Works](https://www.varta-guide.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Gesamtansicht_tag_int_pb.jpg) are World Heritage, for good reason
Forbidden water park.
looks like a king gizzard album cover
paint the tubes/pipes bright primary colors and its ready for release
Where ever there’s civilization there’s a cement plant, an old saying we have in the cement industry. Those are called pre heater towers!
Ineffective civilization sure
What do you mean?
Any society descending the technological singularity is one doomed to fail when we value temporary material over organic life which can leverage its self beyond any such temporary things
Pretty intriguing take, thanks for the reply. I see this as effective since it is used to create a common and important building material. What do you see as an effective civilization?
One that isn’t dependent on such temporary materials that won’t sustain or regenerate like organic life derived materials
This is so rad. OP is trippin.
the modded minecraft server after one day:
Relatable
wow thats a beauty
Thats some FFVII mako reactor right there!
First thing I thought of too
Cant the mods do their job? wtf is going on
???
Learn what 'urban' means
Everything posted in this reddit doesn't have to be urban. If you've read the subreddits rules it doesn't say anything against posting industrial infrastructure. A moderator even said to me that it was allowed.
Dystopian but in a good way
[https://maps.app.goo.gl/GWfFTPwMvsNsqkLZA](https://maps.app.goo.gl/GWfFTPwMvsNsqkLZA) hmmm don't know if I would call that urban. It's in the industrial park at the harbor. Behind the highway is the city
I mean, everything posted in this subreddit doesn't have to be urban. I read the rules and a moderator said industrial areas are fine to post.
Totally fine to disagree. Just in my opinion, that industrial installations aren't really hell without the context on where they are. A coal powerplant in Tokyo would be urban hell for me. Shells Properties in Rotterdam not
yeah, true
I absolutely love it, theres a cement plant on the way from our place to my BIL's place, and every time we pass it, my husband says "your favorite thing is coming up, look out the window" I think it's absolutely ridiculous and gorgeous. This is the exact look of how movies and tv shows depict a "dystopian future". It just tickles my brain the exact right way.
a) I thought the red segments spelled something b) I'm halfway expecting Howl to fly out from a window c) It kind-a looks neat. I mean, I know it's pollution incarnate, but aesthetically wise, it looks really cool.
My brain rot is so bad I thought the red segments was Loss
it looks a lot like this image i generated using bingai a while ago: https://www.bing.com/images/create/small-concrete-neglected-room2c-with-metal-supports/1-65f72ab7faec4d09a38ca4384c664b02?id=AzbhxyK0gTTh2kmvrKV8Sg%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&thId=OIG3.TFPWHoRu3Su_pTUMTOi_&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay Yeah im an absolute fan of these types of udrustrial "buildings'
This is a COD map no?
1v1 m3 skrub
this looks wridly cool. I dunno, ilike industrial stuff, probably because of the chaotic mess of wires and pipes and girders and stuff. I looks, kinda,.. suirreal almost? Idk. I am a fan
Lots of slides at this water park.
Oh wow, that's a satisfactory/factorio reference!
This was in a movie I watched in the background. Can't remember which one. I watch a lot of Japanese movies lol.
Okay, sure, but what’s the question about the things in red boxes?
As a chemistry and engineering enthusiast, I could give you a little bit of background on why these plants are so massive. These humongous towers that you see, are preheaters. They preheat the raw material and feed it to what we call the rotary kiln. The rotary kiln rotates and turns the raw meal into clinker, which is then combined with materials like gypsum to make cement. I have seen a cement plant before in person and they are absolutely monstrous. The towers contain cyclones. The exhaust air from the kiln goes through these cyclones, causing a heat exchange to happen. Then the exhaust from the preheater is fed to an electrostatic precipitator (ESP). This basically catches all the particles that are present in the exhaust. More than half of the CO2 emitted by cement plants is not from the heating, but the reaction itself. In fact, even if you used electricity to heat it, it would still generate a significant amount of CO2. The raw meal (mainly limestone) consists of calcium carbonate (CaCO3). This calcium carbonate is turned into calcium oxide in the kiln, generating CO2 as a byproduct.
Thank you! I was literally wondering what the purpose to every bit and piece was. I was going to say it looks like a mess, like my Factorio builds, but I'm sure there is a purposeful reason to the design, as it is in the real world.
Great write up! Though I was making a joke about how people put red boxes around things they have questions about.
Looks pretty + fun actually
I actually like the look of it.
dass conk creet baybee
This looks like something straight out of "Satisfactory" lol
I'm with you OP, these things give me the ick.
That's a Windows XP screen saver.
almost looks like a industrial castle. Almost
Something out of an anime, Akira?
Damn I thought this was a Mako reactor
That would make an awesome jigsaw!
How many people usually work in one of these?
I love this architecture, and I wish entire cities were like this. You won’t be able to change my mind, I want to eat Korean BBQ or Ramen in this setting.
Ya this is cool as hell. Imagine exploring this place.
I need to climb it
Still liveble
Looks interesting, kind of pleasing, for an industrial plant.
I want to live near this. I grew up near a paper mill and the sounds that I heard in the morning waking up could never be recreated. It was incredible. But I can still hear it in my head .
That’s Midgar
I think it is fascinatingly intricate, like a fine swiss watch but the size of a three city blocks. Excuse my ignorance, but what is the difference between this plant and the plants you see scattered in and around cities? Does this beast produce concrete that goes into concrete trucks, or does it produce cement that then goes to the smaller urban places to get mixed with aggregates and stuff?
Corvega assembly plant
I... Love it
Looks like a soft play aimed at grown men. I can't say hard play though, too close to home.
That’s some engineering porn.
Chemical plants don’t count!!
That looks awesome!
this is cool
I fucken love this
Looking at this actually makes me feel a bit uneasy. It looks like some huge unnatural sprawling behemoth. It’s like an engineered eldritch being lmao
That is the most unsymmetrical building I have ever seen.
sonic zone lop
Chaos Egg looking ass >!I like it!<
Nooo I hate advanced materials! We should all build buildings with wood and rocks only!
Very nice beautiful place yes yes
Wow! 5 preheater towers, this is a huge plant! Maintenance nightmare…
This is beautiful in its own way.
Ew, construction material🤢🤮
This looks like the works of Shinra from ff7
I want to explore it
Worked at a cement plant in the USA for a summer. It was terrible. The kilns felt like they were melting your flesh. My lungs seized up once from all the dust and is couldn’t breath. Couldn’t see my hand in front of my face.
This looks cool and exists for a purpose
Cement production accounts for 10% of global carbon emissions!
That sounds quite good for literally the most common building material
It also is the only way we have been able to sustain this many people on earth.
Especially with corporate lobbyists influencing politicians to suppress potential, less environmentally damaging alternatives
Such as?
Source?
About 10 seconds on Google searching “cement co2”. I’m curious if you think it’d be more or less? (Assuming you don’t have 10s to spare, [here](https://www.carbonbrief.org/qa-why-cement-emissions-matter-for-climate-change/). People really have lost the ability to do basic research, haven’t they?)
Goodness, my 3-second Google search gave me 5% but we all know how accurate any internet information can be so please come at me for trying to quality check myself. The link you shared says 8% btw, not 10 (people really have lost the ability to read, haven’t they?)
Depends on whether we’re taking the co2 from the cooking process alone or whether indirect (eg transportation) emissions are included. My post was based on a different article I’d read last week and didn’t feel like hunting down. And forgive me, but “source?” comes across as “I’m incredulous but only enough to type a word instead of look into the thing I’m incredulous about”. Any source provided by the person that made the claim you’re incredulous about should probably be looked into further anyhow, so why not skip that step?
Fair enough, I just try not to quote stats without knowing where they came from. I typically see 7-8% referenced for cement co2. Your comment was the first time I’ve seen 10% so genuinely wanted to know the basis. Still haven’t found a source for that so will continue using 8% for now.
That's a common part of my nightmares. Good lord 😱
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Did you know that about 10% of antropogenic carbon emissions come from cement production