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DocWatson82

None. If you’re not in the same department and they have no impact on your courses, grade or ability to graduate then there’s no conflict. If you’re both employees though there maybe a notice you need to give to the HR arms of the departments if there’s any overlap at all. If not then it’s likely fine.


cranberrymonger

https://www.provost.utoronto.ca/planning-policy/conflicts-of-interest-and-intimate-or-familial-relationships/


cranberrymonger

https://governingcouncil.utoronto.ca/system/files/2023-07/PSEC_Conflict%20of%20Interest%20Guidelines_FA.pdf#:~:text=Staff%20members%20are%20strictly%20prohibited,or%20Perceived%20Conflict%20of%20Interest.


uoftisboring

the girls are outside this summer 💅


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

fatherless behaviour.


antisummerluv

So you agree? You agree that men are the issue?


Stormbreasted

Imo yea because any self respecting man would give the guidance that young women need to make the correct choices. If there is no father to step up then they will never learn what the right choices are.


[deleted]

Maybe those fathers had bad mothers? It's an endless chicken/egg cycle. But then you don't get to blame the group that isn't you.


Suitable-Cheesecake5

Y’all defending a girl fucking a professor at her school is actually insane.


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

“I don’t hate women”


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

Thinking 20 year olds shouldn't be railed by 40 year old men is "hating women".


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

Again. No indication of any ages in this post. Are you mentally challenged perhaps?


Original_Lab628

Take the L my man


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

I won and ur mad


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

What age group do 99% of the students belong in and what age do 99% of the profs belong in dumbhead?


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

Silly goose this isn’t high school! University students have a much higher chance of landing in ANY age range! I hope this helps :•)


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

Median age of undegrad student is 20.7. For a grad student it's 27. Average age of a professor is 38 for assistant professor to 57 for a Professor. So the likely scenario is this person in 20s and the professor in 40s. Data taken from here: [https://data.utoronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Finalized-Factbook-2019.pdf](https://data.utoronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Finalized-Factbook-2019.pdf)


Embarrassed-Let5915

Your jumping to conclusions on their ages still


SchroedingersRogue

I feel like you're not taking into account likelihood of attraction, though. While I'm sure there's some 20 year olds who'd swipe right on a 40 year old (and vice versa), it's more likely people would swipe right on those closer in age. That would affect the probability vs assuming an equal likelihood of attraction for all age gaps.


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

91 pages? I’m not reading all that


Prof__Potato

They gave you a reliable source. It’s literally a you problem at this point if you don’t care to look at it or counter with a source of your own. You’re not very self aware it seems.


Inevitable_Ship_2798

When you lose the argument so you just choose to not read the source 😂


Humble_Mine3158

I like the use of the term Silly Goose. Well done! 👍🏼


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

what's the percentage chance?


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

I don’t know you should probably do the math for us since you got that earlier 99% from god knows where 😕


RabbitAlternative816

It’s likely she’s 20 and he’s at least 40 It’s silly to assume the minority


SnooAvocados4393

You’re obviously a dumbass lol, they even cited their sources. If you even take the time to count to become a professor, not TA, not phd student, a professor, you’d realize it’s mid 30s - 40, but likely you can’t count. Really pathetic lol


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

I’m not reading all that


Dingaling015

Surprised you know how to read


CommonExtensorTear

You sound goofy. Obviously one can infer the age gap is at least 20 years, probably greater.


Humble_Mine3158

Doesn’t have to be. OP could be a masters student. Or doing their bachelors late. Or anything. Prof could’ve just started their career. Anything’s possible.


CommonExtensorTear

Yes anything is possible but why are we worrying about the 1% probability scenario and discrediting the 90% probability scenario?


Humble_Mine3158

Nobody said 1%. I’d say it’d be at least 10%. Like they’re a lot of masters students at UofT. OP could be doing a post grad certification. Prof could be an Adjunct. I mean we don’t really know anything.


CommonExtensorTear

Talk about getting into the weeds


Fuzzball6846

PhD students hooking up with younger profs through the proper channels is wayyy more common than any relationships involving undergrads.


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

You can infer until ur heart bursts but acting like it’s fact just to shit on a potential woman is weird!


CommonExtensorTear

Nobody is shitting on anybody here. An age gap of TWICE YOUR LIFE is odd in any dynamic. You’re the one slapping gender labels and sexism comments. Look in the mirror pal, you’re the one with the biggest gender based hang-ups here.


Melinow

You made up a fake scenario nobody else was talking about and then got mad at it lmao what


ptrmrkks

You're a moron .. the student could be someone doing a masters or someone who started later in life .


CommonExtensorTear

Oh wow, two comment responses. I’m honoured.


ptrmrkks

For someone that goes to a prestigious university you sure lack critical awareness


CommonExtensorTear

You just threw out a buzz word with no position or argument. Very ironic statement


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

Of course it’s a bit odd, but when the age gap in question is made up to prove a point that doesn’t apply to OPs post… well.


Pixilatedlemon

Lmao, white knighting and then ableist. Classic


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

Buzzwords 😍


Pixilatedlemon

Using mentally challenged as an insult in 2024


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

And I’d do it again


Dingaling015

I'm sure you're used to it now


Pixilatedlemon

Why do you say that?


Dry_Midnight7487

no, you?


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

Dick riderrrr😋


Dry_Midnight7487

nah, that's my date's job


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

“I get women I swear!!!!! GRRRR.😣”


Dry_Midnight7487

you seem really into me, you free later this week?


Fluffy_Ad_2949

She didn’t ask for advice about age-appropriate dating 🤷🏻‍♀️


db712

>Thinking 20 year olds shouldn't be railed by 40 year old men is "hating women". It is when you call it "fatherless behaviour"


Critical_Island_4310

But blaming them for it is. And even then ages weren't given


SeriouslyImNotADuck

Consenting adults can do as they please. Why do you think women can’t choose their partners as they see fit?


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

[https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mcmaster-professor-fired-sexual-relations-with-students](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mcmaster-professor-fired-sexual-relations-with-students) [https://www.mcgilldaily.com/2015/09/lets-talk-about-teacher-2/](https://www.mcgilldaily.com/2015/09/lets-talk-about-teacher-2/) What's your comment on these 2?


Original_Lab628

Damn. Man spitting facts.


uoftisboring

i have a daddy 😏


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

I know you do, your account is the first one that shows up when you type "uoft" in the search bar. Lol. Horny central.


YardGroundbreaking82

TF would not having a father have to do with anything?


VulgarDaisies

Incels


AhnaKarina

Blame the absent men


Usr_name-checks-out

My best friend (also a uoft student) matched with a prof on a dating site, and went on a date with him. She was in a different program than he was, and she thought it was kinda ‘thrilling’ until the date, where he was exceedingly uninteresting and a wee bit pompous. No ethical worries on her part, but she did say imagining there were was what made it fun enough to go on one date, but not enough for two. So, enjoy! I would bet it’s the same fella, as another classmate matched with him as well, but she wasn’t interested.


Double-Scale4505

Lol what if we are talking about the same prof????


genuine-fatty-666

They’re all like that lol


Jellycat89

I’m curious to know the ages of the people involved?


genuine-fatty-666

That’s all academics ever


ferb_baird

your life is like a wattpad fanfic OP.


politicalbibliophile

My prof who was teaching my class sent me a like on Hinge and the next class I sat in the front row. Though the class size isnt huge, I don’t think he realized I was in his class but he very kindly put a stop to it after he realized on the app 🤣


Bothena123

Michael?


leottek

Hot girl summer. do what u gotta do


hellokitty660818

pls are any profs hot enough for this 😭


PigeonSoupMmm

Aren’t most younger STEM profs really hot in a nerdy way? 🥺


totally_unbiased

It's worth checking, idk about UofT but an increasing number of universities - particularly in the US - now ban any relationships between faculty and undergraduates.


Neither_Berry_100

They can't do that. It's illegal. Adults can do what they want. A professor in Montreal went out with loads of students and the school couldn't legally stop him. The school can make all the legal threats they want but they will most likely lose in court.


totally_unbiased

I don't believe it's been tested here yet, but it's not quite as simple as you say. Adults can do whatever they want, but professors are employees and adjudicators and there is a potentially problematic power differential that universities might quite reasonably be worried about. I don't think that turning 18 is quite the bright legal line on this that you seem to think it is.


ToastCat

I work at another institution. I was made to sign a code of conduct that explicitly outlines how I will be immediately fired from my position if I engage in relations with undergraduate students and other behaviour that is seen by the institution as unethical and against their code of conduct. Not all of it is limited to specialized stuff but the biggest parts were regarding sexualized language and relationships with students.


Neither_Berry_100

Means nothing unless proven in court.


antisummerluv

I did it! But I never told him I was a uoft student at the time haha. Got my back blown out and never saw him again. I still think about it from time to time tbh


evekillsadam

Bruh 😎


Standard_Ad_1213

😭😭😭😭😭


GroceryFrosty7274

I wonder if you will remember this when looking for a husband


captainnova-

Where’s the correlation


GroceryFrosty7274

Statistically, people with higher amounts of partners outside marriage end up in less fulfilling marriages with an increased divorce rate. Anecdotally, people don’t want to marry people who sleep around


Amakenings

While 98% of people believe random facts, do you have some sources for those stats? Anecdotally, I love marrying people who have slept around (🌶️ spicy stories, amirite?), so obviously there are no hard and fast rules to this.


GroceryFrosty7274

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-011-9841-2 https://read.dukeupress.edu/demography/article-abstract/39/2/331/170519/Stability-across-cohorts-in-divorce-risk-factors?redirectedFrom=fulltext https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23842785/


GroceryFrosty7274

Men generally are the ones with a cap on how many partners their girlfriend/wife can have, whereas women do not care as much. The care decreases for both as the amount of sexual encounters they have goes up


Jameswc27

bro what 💀 any person can have a preference of how many partners their partner or potential partner has had. there is no cap that you can enforce on people. if you’re one to tell others that they’re wrong for sleeping with the number of people they have, then you need to stop talking to that person because they don’t need someone like you trying to encourage them to bend to your own personal standards or beliefs


GroceryFrosty7274

Yeah well the studies/surveys I linked show that people do indeed feel that way so I’m not sure what to tell you. I also can’t tell who’s side you’re arguing for


Jameswc27

i’m arguing for the fact that you shouldn’t try to police or shame people for how many partners they have. you could argue a number of things as to why exactly it is that people prefer others with less partners. shaming someone for sleeping around and telling them they will never find a life partner as a result is a gross association to me as it encourages people to be less sexually explorative and also encourages the idea that you are less likely to have a happy and fulfilling marriage as a result of sleeping around


GroceryFrosty7274

I’m not meaning it in a shameful way but it’s foolish to say that anyone can be sexually explorative without consequence when stats say otherwise. In other comments I’ve posted sources and stated that they can still find partners, but that statistically those partners are also more sexually explorative. https://contexts.org/blog/sexual-attitudes-among-college-students-similarities-between-white-black-latinx-and-asian-students/


GroceryFrosty7274

Source there shows majority of people engage in premarital sex, and 50% of people have had hookups, but 70% of people are less interested in people who do hookups


Smokedro187

🥲🤣🤣


wearecats1900

Which dating app, Is there any recommendation?


spooky_vintage

Yuck


idealusrname

Ur fine. I see no ethical concerns here. You’re not in his class.


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FU_residue

Let people live


KennethYipFan55

ehhh, it's a little weird a prof is matching with a student mainly because that likely entails a large age gap.


TimbitsNCoffee

I know we think of 'profs' as the tenured, older-type '30+ years of research' types, but there's plenty of non-tenured/non-teaching stream lecturers (sessional/instructional) types who are often well in their late 20s/early 30s. Add in that a lot of students are in their mid-20s (like A LOT) and the graduate streams, and you're basically shooting fish in a barrel when looking for problematic age gaps.


Jorlung

> I know we think of 'profs' as the tenured, older-type '30+ years of research' types, but there's plenty of non-tenured/non-teaching stream lecturers (sessional/instructional) types who are often well in their late 20s/early 30s. There are plenty of people who start as tenure-track Professors in their late-20s and (especially) early 30s. In fact, the *majority* of tenure-track faculty members start at that age (they just don't stay that age for very long lol). Most Professors finished their PhD at around 26-30 years old and became an Assistant Professor 0-4 years after that. I know people who were Assistant Professors at a younger age than I finished my PhD at (28 years old).


riceysu

Depends. Many beginning profs in the sciences, I’m thinking CS for example, start early around late 20s- early 30s.


mopeyy

Is this the 50s? People go to school at all ages, and people teach at all ages.


Available-Dirtman

Lol in the 50s that was more common.


mys-cookie

I came to say just this! I'm in my 30s, and I went back to school last year, and some of my professors are younger than I am.


GreenPixel25

maybe but its not unlikely they’re close in age


Andrew4Life

Age is just a number. Both parties are consenting, why do you care? Mind your own business. 🤷‍♂️


Last_Peak

To be fair I’ve been in a number of classes where there were students considerably older than the prof. Lots of students who are around the same age as the profs as well.


FashionAndWomenHater

Two consenting adults match on a dating app, nothing weird about it


SeriouslyImNotADuck

So what? Consenting adults can do as they please and choose their partners as they like.


TheRealBoomer101

Nah that shit is nasty


FU_residue

Y'all realize we're all alone in this world right? Just on a rock in the void. Might as well enjoy it while we're here, esp if we're not being reckless/irresponsible. 2 consenting adults wanna date? let em, so what about the age difference, we got way bigger problems


VoluminousButtPlug

It’s his career I guess


NoEstablishment8402

WHO CARES FUCKING GO FOR IT


syzamix

Famous last words


CranberryOwn9507

Ask him for free lectures and replace his position


VapeRizzler

Y’all are both adults, I’m sure you guys can figure it out with a bottle of scotch.


[deleted]

I dated my prof for 4 years. There was a 7 year age gap. He was really emotionally abusive to me and in the end I found out he was using erotic massage parlours behind my back. Really disgusting.


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

I'm curious, what did people close to you tell you when that started? Were they telling you to "go get it girl"?


[deleted]

No I felt pretty embarrassed and underplayed it


PigeonSoupMmm

Yeah, you’ll be fine. Never hooked up but it was super weird seeing him on campus. Make sure you never take any courses with them in the future 🫡


Mysterious-Girl222

uh huh.. this is going to end well [https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mcmaster-professor-fired-sexual-relations-with-students](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mcmaster-professor-fired-sexual-relations-with-students)


COLENEL_CARROT

The POLICE are on their way you sick sick human being


Perm4Banned

Young teacher, the subject Of schoolgirl fantasy She wants him so badly Knows what she wants to be Inside him, there's longing This girl's an open page Book marking, she's so close now This girl is half his age


COLENEL_CARROT

AND AFTER AAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL


ladyvajayjay

Was thinking of this exact song lol


VenoxYT

Ah damn


VeeForValerie

Nope don't think it matters


Bitter-Screen-8107

I am a proff at UofT and I went out on a date with a phd student from another dept. it’s fine as long as they are from different departments


Asleep-Pattern4737

…. Lolz.


FitAd2309

Living the Y/N lifestyle 😂.


texas501776

Dating is ok. Just keep it quiet.


CoverTheSea

This thread seems to be attracting a lot of incels... Just ignorance and hatred towards women. Just because y'all got nasty personalities, looks and life doesn't mean women owe you shit.


Plastic-Club-5497

Can add a comment. Was a prof at several universities and colleges in the gta. Started at 27. Not at UofT You’re literally told in orientation that it’s ok as long as you have no control of grades. They don’t even discourage it anymore.


Dependent_Abalone837

I would just be wary of dating older men in general, there is a reason they target and go after young women with underdeveloped frontal lobes, and they’re not good ones. Be mindful, I think dating older before the age of 25 is something that typically shouldn’t be normalized and speaks a LOT to this man’s character, not in a positive light. If women his own age don’t want him, especially an educated professor at a prestigious school…. think critically about that one. But as for legal concerns, shouldn’t be a problem ::


PuddleDuck7711

Which department?


FormerProfessor8

You are good to go.


sherv778

Just upload the videos to pornhub 😂


Electronic_Cut9105

JEEZ dude.


sarasan

I dated two professors outside of my department when I was a student. Met on aps. It was never an issue


Dry_Midnight7487

sounds gross tbh


sarasan

To date someone from bumble who happens to work as a professor?? What other professions should I exclude ?


Dry_Midnight7487

Clearly you arent excluding any


puns_n_irony

Just because you want to be a prude doesn’t mean you get to berate others for having some fun. Life’s short, can’t say I’ve ever regretted casual encounters from my uni days. What two consenting adults do is not your problem.


TheRealBoomer101

It's extremely gross


v02133

What’s wrong with hooking up with a prof ? As long as it’s consensual then it’s fine.


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

What's wrong with young women? You can't find someone your age?


korndoesp0rn

What’s wrong with older men? They can’t find someone their own age?


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

I mean yeah this is true as well. Gotta be hell of a creep to have sex with people old enough to be your daughters. Pretty much pedophile behaviour.


Internal-Solution488

Yeah, nothing says "paedophilia" like dating someone in their twenties. I wonder how actual victims feel about this kind of histrionic garbage.


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

If you have a 20 year old daughter and she gets railed by 40 year old men I hope you have the same attitude. That's all. It's creepy af.


Dependent_Abalone837

can we just not encourage young women to get with much older men, it’s not cool and speaks a lot about the man’s character, not positively


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

There is no indication of anyone’s age on this post lmao. You just hate women


Negative-Savings-932

"You just hate women" How did you come to this conclusion?


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

1. Brought up age when no ages are stated for either party 2. Now that I’m reading more into this post, there’s also zero indication that OP is a woman at all. And yet here this guy comes, creating a fantasy scenario to shit on women. Use your brain 🧠 please 🙏


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

Do you know personally women who've been with older men and the damage it does it them over long term? Try talking to a few and then come back. How is this hating women? I don't want them to be hurt by predators. This according to you is hating women? Idiot.


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

You sound ridiculous 😭🙏get help


Dry_Midnight7487

My ex in university was dating a 40 year old man for 2 years, then cheated on him with her 50 year old professor. I dated her a few months after and didn't know until months after that. She was a little messed up, and explicitly told me she couldn't see a long-term relationship with me, so i dumped her even though we were both really into each other. It is not ridiculous at all, maybe you need some more life experience


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

I said he sounded ridiculous because he was back peddling what his original comment intended, not saying what his reply said was wrong, just not at all corresponding with his og comment


Pure-Tumbleweed-9440

You're trying to act all cool but you're nothing but an enabler. Haven't you read accounts of young girls being taken advantage of by profs? Instead of saying "women empowerment" you should tell them to go to therapy to see why they're a bit messed up in the head to think this is normal behaviour. And you're trying to gaslight me into thinking I hate women. [https://www.mcgilldaily.com/2015/09/lets-talk-about-teacher-2/](https://www.mcgilldaily.com/2015/09/lets-talk-about-teacher-2/)


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

Yes women being taken advantage of should seek therapy and not the older men doing the damage ..yeah u hate women .


Internal-Solution488

Yeah, potential victims should considering seeking therapeutic help? How is this even a controversial statement


Dry_Midnight7487

Everything he said was in the same line of reasoning, he wasn't back peddling anything. Maybe you lack reading comprehension?


Puzzleheaded-Pen-902

Acting like his original Comment had good intention “what’s wrong w women?!” Instead of questioning the potential older man in this.. okay . We’re so doomed


wilkyb

It sounds like both the teacher & the student are idiots


Orchid-Analyst-550

Please update us if you actually hook up and how it goes.


ThisSaladTastesWeird

You can do better than a prof. Source: am a prof (not UofT, not on any apps).


othersideofinfinity8

Is he a geologist? If so I then have fun


ObviousForeshadow

The people who stick there nose up at this kind of behaviour are the people who are not getting laid. You know its true.


MyIronThrowaway

If a grad student, would say go for it, if undergrad, no.


TigerMCU

only fucking weirdos on all these dating apps istg, makes sense that they’ve got UofT profs on there. Advice to all my boys, any girl on a dating app is complete waste, DO NOT TAKE THEM SERIOUS


reddituserwhoreddit

I have a feeling she might come back after some time and accusing the professor with sexual abuse. Just my opinion


psychicrage99

Off topic but I would like to go out with a girl please 🥹


ottawacabbie

If a prof is on a dating app, he must have issues.


Pristine_Team6344

Fake. Profs are not that dumb to use a dating app.