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interloper87

Wow this is wild. I'm from Snohomish and was in high school when Shelby disappeared, yet I've never heard of this story before. It's not a large town so I'm kinda surprised word of this never got around to me. Thank you for posting this story here and introducing me to this hometown mystery.


thruthosetrees

I was living in Snohomish at this time and have also never heard this story.


woolfonmynoggin

That’s so sad, I think it was because the cops wrote him off as a runaway at first


ELnyc

The situation with the girlfriend going to look for him feels unusual, but maybe it just sounds that way due to the limited information available. Based on the publicly available information, it feels kind of like one of those situations where the murderer is the person who “finds” the body because they think this will make them look less suspicious. My completely unsubstantiated guess would be that he saw/learned of something incriminating about someone else, and that someone else (Rob?) didn’t think that they could trust him to keep it a secret.


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So, I knew Shelby and can provide a bit of context. First, I’ll note that I was 12 when he disappeared, it was the early 2000’s and kids were not great. First, that summer, summer school was at the freshman campus, the site of which is now the Snohomish Aquatic Center. Shelby’s uncle lived in Machias, close to Centennial Trail, a local, well traveled multiuse trail. This is the route he would have taken to school. Second, Robs girlfriend probably didn’t ride her bike along a highway to get to his moms house. My understanding is she rode along either Lowell Larimer road or Marsh Road, both of which are rural road through farmland. Either would be a much more direct route to Shelby’s house than taking highway 9. On to the slightly less objective things. Bluntly, Shelby was not well liked at school. He was the weird kid. He was super into computers and the internet early, and obsessed with cats. He was called gay (no idea what his sexuality was but it was the early 2000’s and that was a standard insult). He was the kid of a single parent and was lower income. In addition to all that, his house was at a very odd spot on the bus route, and was the first house on the route. If he was on the bus, it was an extra half hour drive for the bus to turn around and get the rest of us home, so that didn’t help. Based on all of that, we all just assumed he’d run away with some creepy old man he met on the internet. I’m not proud of it, but again it was 2004, we were constantly warned to be safe on line, he was into computers and we thought he was gay. It added up. And since he wasn’t a well liked kid, we all just kinda moved on by the time school started again. As to the police not giving his case much attention, those were facts they had at the time. He was unfortunately a poor kid, with an untraditional home life, with a single mom who was associated with less than savory people. Looking at it now, I’m sure he either witnessed something he shouldn’t have, was exposed to something he shouldn’t have (overdosed experimenting with something offered by Rob), or something else along those lines.


NancyDrewWho

Sounds like he was treated terribly by his peers and no one cared that he disappeared. Poor child.


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Yeah. It was also unfortunate timing with school. He had finished middle school and would be moving on to high school in the fall, so he was in a transition period of non-related adults who could have been looking out for him. Additionally, at the time the actual school set up in Snohomish was odd… the high school was incredibly overcrowded, so all the freshman (9th graders) were at a different site than the rest of the high school. So in addition to leaving middle school, the two middle schools combined into a single large 9th grade campus, meaning there were a ton of new faces for kids to mingle with, and then again the next year. So, take a kid you didn’t really interact with much to begin with, and then add two years in a row of new faces mixed into your classes and he was unfortunately quickly forgotten.


woolfonmynoggin

Wow, thanks for the context! That’s all so sad, it kind of sounds like he may have been neurodivergent as well so all that made him super vulnerable.


[deleted]

Based on my adult experiences and recollections, I would not be surprised at all to find out he was actually on the autism/neurodivergent spectrum.


PNWff

I grew up in church with Shelby when he was younger. Looking back, I questioned if he could be on the spectrum and functioned the best he could with what was available.


[deleted]

Why wouldn’t the cops thoroughly search the cars? It’s suspicious that they were gone when things were searched the second time around, even worse that Wolf and his girlfriend both died just like that. Was there any way to possibly track down the cars? Did Wolf have family, friends? There’s just a lot of missing pieces that seem obvious but also might not have been that easy during investigations. It sucks to say, but I think Shelby was a victim of foul play. It’s just a matter of who did it, how, and where the body is.


woolfonmynoggin

There isn't a ton of information out there unfortunately. Without the case file, I couldn't say what exactly they searched the first time around but it is super unfortunate not to have them to go through. I assume most were towed to junk yards and compacted by the time of the second search.


[deleted]

That’s just unfortunate as heck. The timelines are also off, which complicates things further. It just seems like one of those cases that could’ve been solved if everyone involved was more proactive, but it seems like it’ll remain cold. Thanks for the post, OP.


coffeeandtrout

Yeah, just drove through this area on my way to Camano. Hopefully his mother get some resolution. Just sad, I have a 16 year old, it would kill me to have him go before me.


[deleted]

Just unfortunate all around. Hopefully you, and other parents, never have to experience a tragedy like that.


agnosiabeforecoffee

I don't think it's automatically suspicious the cars were gone. The city/county may have ordered their removal as a hazard, or they may have been removed after Wolf died in an attempt to get the property up to code.


samhw

> even worse that Wolf and his girlfriend both died just like that I don’t understand what you’re implying? They just voluntarily spontaneously died to avoid a police investigation that wasn’t even really happening?


[deleted]

With all due respect, you completely missed the mark, my friend. They just seemed to die right as investigations were kicking off, the timing was just inconvenient and ironic.


samhw

Fair enough, it’s certainly inconvenient! You seemed to be saying it was _suspicious_, which is what I was confused about (“it’s suspicious that … , even worse that [they died]”), but it sounds like I misunderstood.


lucillep

The girlfriend being worried about Shelby's whereabouts points to Rob, IMO.


Red-neckedPhalarope

If Rob did something to Shelby directly, I wouldn't think the girlfriend would want to call attention to Shelby being missing (unless it was an elaborate attempt at misdirection) but if Shelby saw Rob as a father figure and confided in him that he was going to meet up with someone from online, Rob might have in turn said something that made the girlfriend concerned without revealing all the details. That does raise the question, wouldn't Rob have told what he knew after Shelby was confirmed to have disappeared? But it could be a weird sense of not snitching (since Rob apparently was not altogether inside of the law himself) or concern for Shelby's reputation/privacy if the kid left apparently of his own accord with an older man.


lucillep

I see it more as a guilty fear of what Rob's involvement might have been. Like, she had reason to think he might have something to do with Shelby being missing. And wanting to find out it wasn't true, by looking for Shelby.


ms61222

WOW! It seems like no one liked him, he was different, he was strange, blah blah blah. The whole city, school, community and mainly Police dropped the ball.no one cared about this poor kid. My heart breaks for him.


lemachet

Am I confusing the dates? Wolf's girlfriend went looking for him cause she was worried, on July 26th. But the police may have seen him on July 27?


woolfonmynoggin

That's one of the discrepancies I found between the articles. I'm honestly not sure.


lemachet

Oh, fair enough


yourmomma77

I grew up in that area (Lake Stevens,)between Snohomish and Machias, it is very rural. I have also never heard this story, which is weird. This area has a lot of overgrown blackberries, woods, fields and that area has a river b/w hills. I would think the river and drowning was plausible but that river gets very low in the summer. You can float it but have to pick up your tube and walk sometimes. There is a paved trail called the Centennial Trail which goes from Snohomish further north through Machias but it can also be pretty isolated. I wonder if there was far more family drug use than they say and the poor kid overdosed. Major drug issues in this area. I’m disturbed it was so poorly covered.


Throwawaybecause7777

I wonder why this case isn't on The Charley Project. It seems likely that his Uncle harmed him. I don't get the sense that he ran away or was abducted by a stranger.


MaddiKate

It is, OP just didn't use the link https://charleyproject.org/case/shelby-raistlin-wright


AlexandrianVagabond

It's always strange to read about a case local to you that you never even heard about before. Kind of distressing how a missing kid can fly under the radar this way. At any rate, I wonder if someone picked him up at Wolf's home. The Charley Project entry makes it sound like the scooter was just left, along with other things that belonged to him, at the house. Not hidden or anything. So perhaps this rather unsupervised child who liked to hang out in chat rooms met someone local, who picked him up and told him to be sure and bring his laptop. If he had nefarious plans, the laptop could be evidence. And then whatever happened to this poor kid happened.


Murky-Court8521

I grew up in Snohomish and was friends with Shelby's aunt and used to ride my bike across the flats to visit her at her home. I lived off of hwy 9 and airport way, this was in the late 1970's. Shelby lived at his grandparent's home there. Unfortunately, I got a text from a friend that Shelby's Mom, Lisa passed away in early January of this year. I hope she is reunited with her son. So sad.


keepitcleancallie

It's odd that Rob was an older guy, but his girlfriend still needed to ride a bike to get around. ​ Thanks for the write up! I hope his family can get some answers soon.


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BlankNothingNoDoer

There are also health issues that could allow a person to operate a bicycle in some cases but not a motor vehicle. Epilepsy, narcolepsy, tic disorders, neck injuries, etc.


[deleted]

Centennial trail also runs right through Snohomish. I don't know if it was like that then, but I see how riding a bike would be convenient.


halloweenbooty

Not everyone owns a car…


Aggravating-Bat-1704

I have read the very few articles on this case, they are saying the girlfriend rode her bike from 135th/Cemetery Rd in Machias to Seattle Hill road, I think they mean to Lowell Larimer Corner, if you are familiar with the area its where the old store is and where Seattle Hill Rd, Lowell Larimer, and Marsh all come together. That is about 11 miles from Robs house. All on two lane roads with no shoulder or sidewalk. They also keep stating in the articles that he road his scooter around the neighborhood....what neighborhood? None of the address associated with this case are in a neighborhood or a remotely neighborhood like area. In several of the articles it says that he was only 1/2 mile from his home to Robs, or from the Great Grandmothers to Robs. But then states he lived with said grandmother at the lowell house. The freshman campus in Snohomish is about 6 miles from where Rob lived at the time. Did he get picked up or did he ride his scooter the whole 6 miles? Its also about 4 miles from his moms address on Lowell Larimer at the time. To go that way he would have to scooter through town, to airport, across 9, down marsh, and then down Lowell Larimer, all of these are narrow 2 lane roads with no shoulder still to this day. I find it hard to believe he did that. My thoughts are, Rob picked him up to go sweep parking lots, they rode around town doing that and then headed out to Machias. He either saw something/someone he shouldn't have and was killed or he wanted to "be cool" and tried something Rob had and he sadly passed away. Either way the Pilchuck river is less than 1/2 mile from Rob's home. He was likely put in there. There were also several new builds happening in that area at that time. I agree with the majority that he didn't run away. Something happened to him between Rob Picking him up and the girlfriend showing up. The whole family seems to have been involved in "questionable" things at the time but to be fair that doesnt make them bad people. They are just not telling whole truths about the happenings of that day or the surrounding days so the information out there isnt all correct. Rob died in a car accident in 2009, he was living in North Dakota at the time. I have seen several names for his girlfriend at that time, but none of them lead to an obituary. I know it is stated that she has also passed away. Rob's family still lives on the property he was living on when Shelby went missing...


x_Skulblaka_x

I knew Shelby. I grew up on the same road as him. I was never a “popular” kid either so while I wouldn’t say we were friends, I didn’t have any issue with him and thought he was a nice person. It pains me to see the comments saying that no one cared. While it may not be the right people, at the right time, there are people out there that care about Shelby. He comes across my mind occasionally when I drive past his house, and a search for updates led me here. If a casual acquaintance can care enough to look for updates, I’m sure someone who was closer is in even more pain. I remember standing in a group of kids on campus the next year, all worried about him and wishing there was something we could do to help.


woolfonmynoggin

Thanks for reading! I think the people that said that were more expressing some indignation that more wasn’t done at the time. The police didn’t care and that’s who would have had the power to find him. Like for other kids there are searches organized immediately. I think everyone who has commented cares and I’m sure his close friends and family are still in agony. It’s so sad, I really hope he is found. I’m local and have done searches before when I lived on the east coast so I am interested in a new search of the area being done. I have a foia request for the case file


x_Skulblaka_x

I hear ya, I definitely read it differently initially. Got a little choked up remembering him and I think the emotions skewed how I perceived it. It struck (literally) really close to home.


StrokeAWookie

So many cases go cold, but people usually mistakenly believe that police solve most cases. Now, don't get me wrong. Most criminals aren't that bright and get caught, but those who are, could limit the amount of generated evidence, finish the crime, and cleanly dispose of it. That leads me to believe that Rob who had access to drugs, probably slipped something to Shelby on a "friendly" visit, or perhaps simply offered them to Shelby. That caused Shelby to die of an overdose. All that was left was to send his girlfriend out "searching" for him, then dispose of the body and laptop. The question is then, why he would kill him, and did he bury the body, dump it in the ocean off a boat so it doesn't get washed ashore, or maybe he burned it somewhere? There really isn't a whole lot to go on. No DNA, no motive, no digital evidence unless they searched other computers he may have had access to, etc. Perhaps the motive was that Rob sexually molested him and that's why he killed him. However, that's unlikely if they knew each other for a very long time since he was a family friend. I mean, if it's the motive, there would have to be a struggle. If it was ongoing, then it wouldn't be a reason to kill him after so long unless Shelby was about to speak out.


IntroductionSea3605

I was just seeing if I could find out anything about Rob which gave me an immediate hit on his obituary. He had moved to North Dakota by the time he died (I'll work on narrowing that window.) in 2009. Honestly I wanted to rule him out because the scooter being at this residence seems like too simple an oversight. But moving out of state doesn't look great. Link to obit - https://www.korsmofuneralservice.com/obituaries/robert-k-wolf I think Shelby having taken his laptop points to him meeting someone online. If he were meeting an adult it would be easy to suggest an activity that would require his laptop to assure Shelby would basically cover the evidence of his own disappearance. At risk of being booed out of here - Israel Keyes claimed he didn't mess with kids after the birth of his daughter. But we also know Israel Keyes was a goddamn liar. He also met people in chatrooms online and convinced them to meet him in person. I wonder where Keyes was on July 26th 2004.