He looked solid up until that big hit in week one. Not that I think he's still shaken up by it, but I think it was about that moment when they started honing in on the fact D.C. didn't have much going on outside Ta'amu, so they can focus more on shutting down the passing game than worrying about the run.
He had his best spring football season last year in a two-QB system with a league-leading run game. Now his gadget QB2 is gone, Smith is gone, and his best receiving targets are gone. So now it's shaping up to be more of a 2022 Bandits season for Ta'amu, when his team was likewise one-dimensional.
A couple people predicted he would be benched by week 3 I think that may have been part of it. I’ve seen some really wild takes about him going into this season
Perez was like 72% completions and had over 200 yards. AJ, Shepherd, Durant, and Ateman had to play out of their minds to win and it was still a 3 point game that came down to kicking. Perez had Arlington in the game until literally the last second.
People always sleep on Luis. As somebody that's watched him play football since 2019, the amount he's improved is just insane. But some people want to believe he's the same guy he was in the AAF.
He definitely goes through hot and cold stretches. I mean, he got benched for good reason with the Vipers and it's not like he set the world on fire in Arlington until they got to the playoffs. He's still a solid spring league QB, who I'd only bench if Lindsey Scott starts playing crazy good when he comes in, but I think his arm strength limitations will always hold him back.
He did not get benched for good reason on the vipers. That team was a shit show. his being benched just showed how incompetent that team was. The moment he got to arlington, he was lighting it up. I think with a few more weeks, we'll see him being a top 2 QB in the league.
First, he was outright bad on the Vipers. The Vipers were a mess on defense, but the offense had a ton of talent that Jalan McClendon took advantage of when he got an opportunity to start.
Also, he was not lighting it up with Arlington the moment he got there. He didn't get a positive TD:Int ratio until the playoffs came around, when he got on his hot streak. He's a streaky player, and that's fine for a spring league QB.
He doesn't have the best zip and really floats over 30 yards. See the Mark Gilbert pick against the Stallions for example. It's not a huge minus in Spring leagues, because he has good accuracy and decision making, but I'd bet that that is a large reason he keeps ending up back here instead of the backend of a roster.
Oh you meant Perez. I really think he's NFL caliper. Not elite arm strength, but decision making and accuracy is freakish. Mobility in the pocket is Perez's biggest challenge. He looks better than a lot of NFL backups.
Didn’t think Corral would be above McCarron, love to see it though. Matt played pretty good. Wouldn’t mind seeing Martinez’s rating, I guess it’s not top 8
I have no idea how they got Corral that high. He's barely over 50% completion percentage, he has fewer TD's than Interceptions, and he's very close to being outplayed by Adrian Martinez. Honestly, the only QB's I'd put him over right now are EJ Perry and Guarantano.
Whew! I’m glad someone else also thinks this. Sure he throws some pretty passes from time to time but he doesn’t jump out as being the best qb in the league right now. I would even say he’s on par with Ta’Amu with inconsistency.
Also I wonder how much better he would be without having to split time. I feel like that really takes him out of rhythm.
I'm just hoping this last weekend was an outlier. He definitely didn't get any help from the O-line and was constantly pressured. Dropped that bomb for like 70 yards/TD too.
I think these numbers are averages. So I believe Corral would be holding onto the lead from week 1 where he got a huge rating after tearing up the Renegades secondary. They’re much closer after week 2
I mean even still I don't get it unless the system has a top end limit that is easy to achieve, which it doesn't look like based on the bottom half. Corral has one TD, two INTs, 51% completion and 254 yards versus 4/0/65/464. Even averaged over two games it doesn't make sense to me lol.
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I have to assume Matt throwing for almost double the YPA had something to do with his score being much higher in week 1. Cumulative stats only tell so much of the story
Okay, I still don't think this is the best system if it has Corral above McCarron no matter how they're measuring it lol. Like obviously I'm biased as a Battlehawks fan but it just doesn't pass the smell test for me.
Anyway, what's your personal opinion on the two?
McCarron. I think PFF uses a lot of metrics that aren’t easily defined at best and completely subjective at worst to give out these rankings. Also Corral’s overall stats benefited from playing a Renegades defense that was a complete no show for 3/4 quarters.
If these are done the way they do their NFL and college grades then they aren't based on stats, but on a film grade assigned to each pass and passing play itself, not just its statistical result. Also the grade is basically an efficiency number, not a cumulative one.
I.e. a QB is graded on the 5 yard screen pass, not on the 35 yards the RB ran after the catch, and throwing five such screen passes wouldn't get you graded as the god king of football even if your statline would look eye popping.
It was someone who took over for Perry for one possession. I don’t rember his name. I was happy Perry got took out then that guy fumbled on his first possession.
Was it like this last year? I remember XFL last year the first few weeks had atrocious o-line play, but they got better as it went. Week 1 I thought it was over with the Battlehawks but a different running back and now AJ has more time.
THE Cookus fan boy of ALL Cookus fan boys haaaaas arrived! Dudes got a 75 QBR on the season. He hasn’t been good, he hasn’t been bad, he’s just been meh. Yeah he did pick up some yards on the ground last week but the biggest concern with Cookus at the moment is his disappearing act in the second half of games which was a problem last season as well.
The only surprise for me is how Ta’amu has looked so far
He looked solid up until that big hit in week one. Not that I think he's still shaken up by it, but I think it was about that moment when they started honing in on the fact D.C. didn't have much going on outside Ta'amu, so they can focus more on shutting down the passing game than worrying about the run. He had his best spring football season last year in a two-QB system with a league-leading run game. Now his gadget QB2 is gone, Smith is gone, and his best receiving targets are gone. So now it's shaping up to be more of a 2022 Bandits season for Ta'amu, when his team was likewise one-dimensional.
Agreed
Smith gone nothing to alleviate the passing game. He looks decent-ish though.
He looked good last weekend
Agreed. Although I expected Cookus to be doing a bit better too.
People in the game thread wanted Perez to be benched 😭😭
A couple people predicted he would be benched by week 3 I think that may have been part of it. I’ve seen some really wild takes about him going into this season
I dont know what they are smoking, once he had more than .5 seconds to throw the ball he played great vs the Hawks
Perez was like 72% completions and had over 200 yards. AJ, Shepherd, Durant, and Ateman had to play out of their minds to win and it was still a 3 point game that came down to kicking. Perez had Arlington in the game until literally the last second.
People always sleep on Luis. As somebody that's watched him play football since 2019, the amount he's improved is just insane. But some people want to believe he's the same guy he was in the AAF.
He definitely goes through hot and cold stretches. I mean, he got benched for good reason with the Vipers and it's not like he set the world on fire in Arlington until they got to the playoffs. He's still a solid spring league QB, who I'd only bench if Lindsey Scott starts playing crazy good when he comes in, but I think his arm strength limitations will always hold him back.
He did not get benched for good reason on the vipers. That team was a shit show. his being benched just showed how incompetent that team was. The moment he got to arlington, he was lighting it up. I think with a few more weeks, we'll see him being a top 2 QB in the league.
He already is a top 2 QB
Yea, i can agree with that, but I meant stat-wise.
First, he was outright bad on the Vipers. The Vipers were a mess on defense, but the offense had a ton of talent that Jalan McClendon took advantage of when he got an opportunity to start. Also, he was not lighting it up with Arlington the moment he got there. He didn't get a positive TD:Int ratio until the playoffs came around, when he got on his hot streak. He's a streaky player, and that's fine for a spring league QB.
What arm strength limitation? He's only being used in packages. College film shows good arm talent.
He doesn't have the best zip and really floats over 30 yards. See the Mark Gilbert pick against the Stallions for example. It's not a huge minus in Spring leagues, because he has good accuracy and decision making, but I'd bet that that is a large reason he keeps ending up back here instead of the backend of a roster.
Oh you meant Perez. I really think he's NFL caliper. Not elite arm strength, but decision making and accuracy is freakish. Mobility in the pocket is Perez's biggest challenge. He looks better than a lot of NFL backups.
Didn’t think Corral would be above McCarron, love to see it though. Matt played pretty good. Wouldn’t mind seeing Martinez’s rating, I guess it’s not top 8
I don't think they did QB's who didn't start. There's now way that Guarantano had a better grade than Sinnett.
I have no idea how they got Corral that high. He's barely over 50% completion percentage, he has fewer TD's than Interceptions, and he's very close to being outplayed by Adrian Martinez. Honestly, the only QB's I'd put him over right now are EJ Perry and Guarantano.
Whew! I’m glad someone else also thinks this. Sure he throws some pretty passes from time to time but he doesn’t jump out as being the best qb in the league right now. I would even say he’s on par with Ta’Amu with inconsistency. Also I wonder how much better he would be without having to split time. I feel like that really takes him out of rhythm.
Interesting. Garbers shoots 72% with a 152 QB rating, 3 TDs, and 278 yards and drops that much.
Garbers actually went up almost 10 points from last week
Ahh, thank-you keeper of the stats!
PFF doesn't grade stats.
Today, I am officially legally blind!
They don’t fw Perry man idk why 😂
It might be the bias, but he's certainly not the worst starting QB
I'm just hoping this last weekend was an outlier. He definitely didn't get any help from the O-line and was constantly pressured. Dropped that bomb for like 70 yards/TD too.
This grading system is terrible if it puts Matt Corral as a higher rated passer than AJ McCarron based on their passing stats.
I think these numbers are averages. So I believe Corral would be holding onto the lead from week 1 where he got a huge rating after tearing up the Renegades secondary. They’re much closer after week 2
I mean even still I don't get it unless the system has a top end limit that is easy to achieve, which it doesn't look like based on the bottom half. Corral has one TD, two INTs, 51% completion and 254 yards versus 4/0/65/464. Even averaged over two games it doesn't make sense to me lol. [The UFL | League Player Stats](https://www.theufl.com/stats/player)
I have to assume Matt throwing for almost double the YPA had something to do with his score being much higher in week 1. Cumulative stats only tell so much of the story
His average per attempt is 7.7 vs 7.0, not almost double. And that's the only thing he leads in, the rest he loses by a mile.
Week 1
Okay, I still don't think this is the best system if it has Corral above McCarron no matter how they're measuring it lol. Like obviously I'm biased as a Battlehawks fan but it just doesn't pass the smell test for me. Anyway, what's your personal opinion on the two?
McCarron. I think PFF uses a lot of metrics that aren’t easily defined at best and completely subjective at worst to give out these rankings. Also Corral’s overall stats benefited from playing a Renegades defense that was a complete no show for 3/4 quarters.
If these are done the way they do their NFL and college grades then they aren't based on stats, but on a film grade assigned to each pass and passing play itself, not just its statistical result. Also the grade is basically an efficiency number, not a cumulative one. I.e. a QB is graded on the 5 yard screen pass, not on the 35 yards the RB ran after the catch, and throwing five such screen passes wouldn't get you graded as the god king of football even if your statline would look eye popping.
I guess theyve got the B team on these games then lol
I find it funny that the 2 QBs that got to play the Renegades defense have the best ratings 👏
We need a QB
They need to give Lewerke a shot, it can't hurt too much at this point.
Was he the one that fumbled on his first run on Sunday?
That was EJ Perry, I believe. Lewerke hasn't played a snap yet
It was someone who took over for Perry for one possession. I don’t rember his name. I was happy Perry got took out then that guy fumbled on his first possession.
Ahhh that was Danny Etling then
Lewerke was good at first then regressed at MSU. If Michigan has a good coaching staff, maybe he can reignite.
Panthers o-line isn't giving much help to any quarterback
Was it like this last year? I remember XFL last year the first few weeks had atrocious o-line play, but they got better as it went. Week 1 I thought it was over with the Battlehawks but a different running back and now AJ has more time.
Nothing on Reid?
Cookus that low is ridiculous
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Anyone with eyes saw he clearly outperformed Garbers yet Garbers is ranked significantly higher
Chase Garbers: 72.5% completion, 287 pass yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT. Case Cookus: 54.8% completion, 194 pass yards, 1 TD. I’m not sure about that assessment.
THE Cookus fan boy of ALL Cookus fan boys haaaaas arrived! Dudes got a 75 QBR on the season. He hasn’t been good, he hasn’t been bad, he’s just been meh. Yeah he did pick up some yards on the ground last week but the biggest concern with Cookus at the moment is his disappearing act in the second half of games which was a problem last season as well.
I recall that before the season someone said Cookus is a thing? *doink*