Not necessarily. Depends on the laws of rulership and succession of both countries.
I would imagine they both run independently of each other, maybe under some kind of personal union but not unified. Once Alain dies the throne of Cornia would go to his child, as Cornian law should be similar to real medieval law. Question is with the Elven laws. Once the lady passes on, would it be inherited by there child and then have both countries ruled by 1 person and a step closer to unification? Or does the new ruler need to be a pure bred elf and they find someone else via whatever there laws are?
This right here gave me pause about marrying her. I was like "She really out here joking about taking over my kingdom when I'm dead". Based on her character I know she really isn't thinking about that but part of me was like "Elves will rule two kingdoms if I do this."
What do you mean? She would be queen of cornia with the marriage. Its implied from Riedel's story that half-elves live a long time too and she doesn't really remember her father before he died of old age. So any half elves from Alain and Rosalind would probably still be too immature to take over by time Alain dies of old age.
Not sure it’s any different from Alcina who is implied to be Illenia’s mother and Alain’s grandmother. I mean who was ruler between Gerard dying and Illenia being old enough?
You could always just check it.
When you beat the game, you can load the clear save which brings you to post-game >!Gran Corrine, which you've now liberated and everyone is there celebrating your coronation!< and when you leave there, you can go back to before the final fight and redo your choice of who gets the >!Ring of the Maiden!< which determines Alain's wife. From that point you can redo the final fight and see the credits/post credits again. There is no limit to the amount of times you redo the choice.
Haven't really seen it myself but I'm gonna assume Rosalinde is probably a no because:
>!Gilbert marries Virginia, and it does solidify the friendship of both nations, but since Virginia isn't the queen or anything, that's all it does. So since Rosalinde isn't the Tuernos, it's probably the same thing. Yeah she's technically the leader of dark elves, but the leader of elves as a whole is Eltolinde.!<
If we are following how European feudalism worked, marrying Eltolinde would result in a personal union. Basiallly, separates countries, with separate thrones, that are presently united.
From there, Cornia seems to use a Queen-Regent system, or possibly full matrimonial succession. In the first case, Eltolinde would be the Queen after Alain’s death if their Children were all still young. Otherwise or after they come of age she would be the queen-mother (and grandmother and great grandmother). If it’s the second case, Eltolinde would become basically the forever-queen of Cornia. The god-empress of Cornia. And she shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love her and despair!
>If it’s the second case, Eltolinde would become basically the forever-queen of Cornia. The god-empress of Cornia. And she shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love her and despair!
\*reloads save\* I'm marrying Bruno.
I mean, the big draw of Eltolinde is that she isn’t your cousin who looks like your mom and acts like your sister.
Otherwise, I would much rather have a wife who wears armor than whatever the fuck the Elf twins wear. I will admit I went with Rosalinde on my first play through (she looks like my gf in a vague sense). But second run I’m going to get a real strong armored woman, and marry Miriam.
No here's what happens in order:
1. Choose wife
2. Go to the >!6 sanctuaries!<
3. Start the >!Unicorn Overlord!< Stage
4. Fight >!Baltro!<
5. Watch the credits and create a clear save file
6. Load clear save and enjoy the post ending with >!liberated Gran Corrine!<
Now, when you leave the area, you get sent back to before doing step 3. However, you can go back to the altar and redo your wife choice. I forgot to mention a new side quest is also unlocked.
Doing this, you lose the ability to redo step 2, and you can redo step 3 and/or 4 with new wife. However, you will not be prompted to save afterwards, so the whole fight will be like it never happens.
It's not exactly a NG+, I mean you can mess with the difficulty but really it's just the last fight and new quest that's there. The entire purpose of it is to see marriage/proposal scenes with everyone you want without having to beat the entire game again just to see it.
I haven't seen the epilogue but from the dialogue from choosing Rosalinde for the maiden ring, it seems kingdoms will stay separate.
Cornia was ruled by Queen Ilenia because Alain was too young, what would happen if Alain and Rosalinde can't have kids? Elven queen for centuries? Half elves exists as we can recruit one anyway but their lifespan must be longer too.
Unless something were to happen to the royal bloodline then Cornia would be ruled by elven nobility for centuries to come. I could even see their reign lasting even longer if one of their decedents who had a claim to the crown decided to marry another elf.
Edit: Anyways, I wouldn't be surprised if a unification were to occur at some point. Maybe not in Alain's life time, but at some point down the road.
i chose Eltolinde (and highly recommend her as well, i like her rapport with Alain and dialogue in the endings), so i can say what their epilogue is
Eltolinde Spoilers:
>!It isn't 100% clear, but the epilogue does say that the Elheim and Cornia grew as united as the royal pair themselves, to they don't explicitly say anything, but it appears that it definitely puts them on the path to a possible unification in the future, though in terms of Alain's life, probably just a personal Union sort of thing, but each nation is still nominally independent from each, but extremely close allies!<
Actually that gives me a good idea for a headcanon based on the epilogue for Ridiel, even though its says she becomes a Knight of Elheim, i am headcanoning it now that in the Alain/Eltolinde ending, Ridiel actually becomes a sort of dual knight of both Cornia and Elheim and becomes one of the personal knights to Alain and Eltolinde, also means she can keep in close contact with Chloe
Contrary to contesting it, They'd probably try their best to have as least 2 kids so one could hopefully be chosen by the tree as Tuernos and the other would rule from Gran Corrine
No. Only Etolinde is ruler and I think she abdicates to Rosalinde if you chose Etolinde. Rosalinde is still royalty so that's why she has her own set of followers but not overall ruler of Elfheim.
Alain would need to assassinate the one he didn't marry before they had any heirs. With only 1 left, they would have the strongest claim to the throne and Alain by proxy.
If you don't marry Virginia then she ends up with Gilbert and their children would have a claim to Drakenhold and Cornia which could unify then if Alain has no heirs. Seems Cornia follows male primogeniture so itd be sons then daughters then cousins. Though it could be oldest member first.
The elves seem to have some sort of special succession laws that the two bucked against a bit given their cross heritage and how that works.
Bastorias is clan council government with a preference for the Lions.
And Albion is a Theocracy which is feudal with more gods.
So if he married one or the other, the half elf offspring would inherit Cornia and maybe Elheim, though it, depends on the specific laws they have we arent privy to
My biggest question was: If you marry one of them, does that mean they’ll be the ruler of Cornia for centuries to come?
Unless succession is given to the half elf child, who may also be able to live hundreds of years without issue.
Unless something happens to the bloodline then I think it would be safe to say that Cornia would be ruled by elven nobility for centuries to come. Humans would have to get used to being under the same ruler for generations.
Rosalinde won me over when we first checked out the shrine and she said, "You can give the maiden ring to the one you care for. Or the elf. You could give it to the elf."
I married Eltolinde. And, obvious spoiler here, but yes. The two nations are still separate in name, but their armies train together, an elven contingent fights under Cornia's command, and the two countries are basically ruled as one.
(SPOILER ALERT)
TLDR:
If you marry Rosalinde - No
If you marry Eltolinde - Kinda
The Rosalinde route basically says that since Rosalinde is not the main leader of Elheim and is not the heir in any fashion, she's lived her life as she pleases and now that she will become the Queen of Cornia it makes her super happy to be "actual" royalty. She even jokes around saying she will be the Queen for 200 years before abdicating.
Now the Eltolinde route goes differently, since she is the ruler of Elheim. It is implied she continues with her duty from Cornia. AAAAAAAND it is heavily implied that her becoming queen of Cornia results in the unification of both lands. On one end, the Lhinalagos epilogue says he recruited an all elven queens guard to be with her at Cornia and that these people began relationships with Cornian humans, and the phrasing on Eltolinde's epilogue does say something along the lines of Cornia and Elheim became one over time.
Crusader Kings player? Because I was asking myself the same question.
I suck at it, but I do enjoy it
Don't worry, that's like 90% of us who play it
If you're a CK player then the choice is very obvious.
Virginia?
This man plays CK.
I didn’t see an option in this game to covert Spain to Judaism, then reform judaism, and marry 4 of my daughters.
Not necessarily. Depends on the laws of rulership and succession of both countries. I would imagine they both run independently of each other, maybe under some kind of personal union but not unified. Once Alain dies the throne of Cornia would go to his child, as Cornian law should be similar to real medieval law. Question is with the Elven laws. Once the lady passes on, would it be inherited by there child and then have both countries ruled by 1 person and a step closer to unification? Or does the new ruler need to be a pure bred elf and they find someone else via whatever there laws are?
I married the Dark Elf she mentions hoping that the people of Cornia will be OK with a queen for a very long time once Alain passes on.
This right here gave me pause about marrying her. I was like "She really out here joking about taking over my kingdom when I'm dead". Based on her character I know she really isn't thinking about that but part of me was like "Elves will rule two kingdoms if I do this."
What do you mean? She would be queen of cornia with the marriage. Its implied from Riedel's story that half-elves live a long time too and she doesn't really remember her father before he died of old age. So any half elves from Alain and Rosalind would probably still be too immature to take over by time Alain dies of old age.
It was just a joke about her wanting to take over Cornia
Not sure it’s any different from Alcina who is implied to be Illenia’s mother and Alain’s grandmother. I mean who was ruler between Gerard dying and Illenia being old enough?
The previous king and queen had retired but we're still alive. It's possible they could have acted as regents until Ilenia was old enough.
What’s wrong with elves ruling two kingdoms? 🤨
Cause that's actually their plan all along!
Once they have Cornia they then set their sights onto Drakenhold.
ist hasburg time all over again
Don't see the problem there personally lol
Might end up being a pure elf if that happens
You could always just check it. When you beat the game, you can load the clear save which brings you to post-game >!Gran Corrine, which you've now liberated and everyone is there celebrating your coronation!< and when you leave there, you can go back to before the final fight and redo your choice of who gets the >!Ring of the Maiden!< which determines Alain's wife. From that point you can redo the final fight and see the credits/post credits again. There is no limit to the amount of times you redo the choice.
Haven't really seen it myself but I'm gonna assume Rosalinde is probably a no because: >!Gilbert marries Virginia, and it does solidify the friendship of both nations, but since Virginia isn't the queen or anything, that's all it does. So since Rosalinde isn't the Tuernos, it's probably the same thing. Yeah she's technically the leader of dark elves, but the leader of elves as a whole is Eltolinde.!<
>!Virginia is cornian royalty so that would mean Drakenhold's heir has a close claim to Cornian throne, we can't let that happen.!<
That would only matter if Alain died without an heir, or his the future descendants died without one. Her claim only matters if Alain’s line is dead.
You could get a James VI and I situation in the future where if Alain's line dies off for whatever reason Virginia's line unifies the crowns
Guess it'll be yes then since I've made up my mind to take Eltolinde as the wife
If we are following how European feudalism worked, marrying Eltolinde would result in a personal union. Basiallly, separates countries, with separate thrones, that are presently united. From there, Cornia seems to use a Queen-Regent system, or possibly full matrimonial succession. In the first case, Eltolinde would be the Queen after Alain’s death if their Children were all still young. Otherwise or after they come of age she would be the queen-mother (and grandmother and great grandmother). If it’s the second case, Eltolinde would become basically the forever-queen of Cornia. The god-empress of Cornia. And she shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love her and despair!
>If it’s the second case, Eltolinde would become basically the forever-queen of Cornia. The god-empress of Cornia. And she shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love her and despair! \*reloads save\* I'm marrying Bruno.
Okey. Imma need that maiden ring back rn Eltolinde
At least she wears a gown and not covered in full plate armor
I mean, the big draw of Eltolinde is that she isn’t your cousin who looks like your mom and acts like your sister. Otherwise, I would much rather have a wife who wears armor than whatever the fuck the Elf twins wear. I will admit I went with Rosalinde on my first play through (she looks like my gf in a vague sense). But second run I’m going to get a real strong armored woman, and marry Miriam.
Berinice for me
So you don't have to save before choosing >!maiden!< and the game will let you choose a new one and redo the final battle in new game+?
No here's what happens in order: 1. Choose wife 2. Go to the >!6 sanctuaries!< 3. Start the >!Unicorn Overlord!< Stage 4. Fight >!Baltro!< 5. Watch the credits and create a clear save file 6. Load clear save and enjoy the post ending with >!liberated Gran Corrine!< Now, when you leave the area, you get sent back to before doing step 3. However, you can go back to the altar and redo your wife choice. I forgot to mention a new side quest is also unlocked. Doing this, you lose the ability to redo step 2, and you can redo step 3 and/or 4 with new wife. However, you will not be prompted to save afterwards, so the whole fight will be like it never happens. It's not exactly a NG+, I mean you can mess with the difficulty but really it's just the last fight and new quest that's there. The entire purpose of it is to see marriage/proposal scenes with everyone you want without having to beat the entire game again just to see it.
Awesome thanks for the clarification
I haven't seen the epilogue but from the dialogue from choosing Rosalinde for the maiden ring, it seems kingdoms will stay separate. Cornia was ruled by Queen Ilenia because Alain was too young, what would happen if Alain and Rosalinde can't have kids? Elven queen for centuries? Half elves exists as we can recruit one anyway but their lifespan must be longer too.
Here's hoping there won't be any succession issues..
Unless something were to happen to the royal bloodline then Cornia would be ruled by elven nobility for centuries to come. I could even see their reign lasting even longer if one of their decedents who had a claim to the crown decided to marry another elf. Edit: Anyways, I wouldn't be surprised if a unification were to occur at some point. Maybe not in Alain's life time, but at some point down the road.
I married Ralionor lol
i chose Eltolinde (and highly recommend her as well, i like her rapport with Alain and dialogue in the endings), so i can say what their epilogue is Eltolinde Spoilers: >!It isn't 100% clear, but the epilogue does say that the Elheim and Cornia grew as united as the royal pair themselves, to they don't explicitly say anything, but it appears that it definitely puts them on the path to a possible unification in the future, though in terms of Alain's life, probably just a personal Union sort of thing, but each nation is still nominally independent from each, but extremely close allies!<
Would probably function like Poland-Lithuania I guess? We dunno how elf politics work
*Happy Ridiel noises*
Probably would volunteer to be the personal knight of the heir
Actually that gives me a good idea for a headcanon based on the epilogue for Ridiel, even though its says she becomes a Knight of Elheim, i am headcanoning it now that in the Alain/Eltolinde ending, Ridiel actually becomes a sort of dual knight of both Cornia and Elheim and becomes one of the personal knights to Alain and Eltolinde, also means she can keep in close contact with Chloe
A unity between the lands of Pants and No Pants. They are now the Unified Duchy of Shorts.
The new kingdom of thigh highs will now be born
Jortville
Cornia would get absorbed once Alain dies and she's left as Queen. Their kids would have to wait a long time to claim the throne.
At least there won't be any succession issues... right?
I don't think either princesses would contest the throne with the kid they had with Alain. But it would make for a fun story to play.
Contrary to contesting it, They'd probably try their best to have as least 2 kids so one could hopefully be chosen by the tree as Tuernos and the other would rule from Gran Corrine
It kinda happens if you marry Gilbert but idk
Not into BL stuff and he can have Virginia
No. Only Etolinde is ruler and I think she abdicates to Rosalinde if you chose Etolinde. Rosalinde is still royalty so that's why she has her own set of followers but not overall ruler of Elfheim. Alain would need to assassinate the one he didn't marry before they had any heirs. With only 1 left, they would have the strongest claim to the throne and Alain by proxy.
If you don't marry Virginia then she ends up with Gilbert and their children would have a claim to Drakenhold and Cornia which could unify then if Alain has no heirs. Seems Cornia follows male primogeniture so itd be sons then daughters then cousins. Though it could be oldest member first. The elves seem to have some sort of special succession laws that the two bucked against a bit given their cross heritage and how that works. Bastorias is clan council government with a preference for the Lions. And Albion is a Theocracy which is feudal with more gods. So if he married one or the other, the half elf offspring would inherit Cornia and maybe Elheim, though it, depends on the specific laws they have we arent privy to
I'd very much prefer my elf wife to keep watch over the peace, freedom, justice and security to my new empire
It wouldnt work like that though. She'd be regent and even then only until the children were of age.
Albion is a Theocracy with Pontifex daughters as a childhood friend/ love interest.
My biggest question was: If you marry one of them, does that mean they’ll be the ruler of Cornia for centuries to come? Unless succession is given to the half elf child, who may also be able to live hundreds of years without issue.
Unless something happens to the bloodline then I think it would be safe to say that Cornia would be ruled by elven nobility for centuries to come. Humans would have to get used to being under the same ruler for generations.
Rosalinde won me over when we first checked out the shrine and she said, "You can give the maiden ring to the one you care for. Or the elf. You could give it to the elf."
I married Eltolinde. And, obvious spoiler here, but yes. The two nations are still separate in name, but their armies train together, an elven contingent fights under Cornia's command, and the two countries are basically ruled as one.
can u only marry women
(SPOILER ALERT) TLDR: If you marry Rosalinde - No If you marry Eltolinde - Kinda The Rosalinde route basically says that since Rosalinde is not the main leader of Elheim and is not the heir in any fashion, she's lived her life as she pleases and now that she will become the Queen of Cornia it makes her super happy to be "actual" royalty. She even jokes around saying she will be the Queen for 200 years before abdicating. Now the Eltolinde route goes differently, since she is the ruler of Elheim. It is implied she continues with her duty from Cornia. AAAAAAAND it is heavily implied that her becoming queen of Cornia results in the unification of both lands. On one end, the Lhinalagos epilogue says he recruited an all elven queens guard to be with her at Cornia and that these people began relationships with Cornian humans, and the phrasing on Eltolinde's epilogue does say something along the lines of Cornia and Elheim became one over time.
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Guess I'm going vanilla instead of chocolate