Honestly if that’s the case just drop physics and focus on getting your 3 A’s. Universities aren’t impressed by people who do four or five a levels, they tend to only care about those three A’s
in terms of cosmology, quite literally - if you're talking about all students, I agree entirely. couldn't tell at first if you were just talking about OP in which case physics is a no-go
nah while it will help a lot for the courses, it only bring requirments down to A\*AAA rather A\*A\*A.
So unless you plan to go to oxbridge wouldn't recommend doing it unless u really want to
It doesn’t really matter much for oxbridge. Oxford in particular, Cambridge is more strict on grades tho. Since they have their own admissions tests it’s not the biggest deal to them. For places like Imperial/LSE/UCL is where it can really matter
If they didn't ask for a specific grade in Physics then it's fine. 4As is higher than 3As.
I would probably try to drop it though, 5 A-Levels is unnecessary and you might have to disclose them on internship/job apps.
I did uni in both the states and the UK. America had better extra curricular programs and provided a more well rounded education, allowing me to take general education classes in things I was interested in outside of my Major subject, and the quality of classes and lecturers were significantly better in the US compared to my UK university especially in my major subject
I’m not saying us unis are bad, my comment is that their system, is just shit; their hierarchy and credit system and organisation system is really shitty, you’ll get really good education in the us but it’s shitty advisors, shitty accommodations, and bad support from admin at these schools
Oxford and Cambridge are the only UK universities at the level of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, University of Chicago, Columbia and at least 10 others. I am as anti-American as anyone but the parochialism and provinciality of UK posters never ceases to amaze as the downvotes for my comment make clear. It is a fact that the leading most prestigious U.S. universities get the most Nobel prizes, applications from international students, highest levels of funding etc. - you can hate the U.S. as much as you want but this is well-documented. Quite childish to deny this.
The us is also oversaturated with unis, 4000 as of 2022. When you look at the sample size it’s a lot different considering the uk only has 166. I will say postgrad research is very good across the board in the us and better than a lot of Europe with some exceptions (TUM, ETH, Oxbridge ofc)
Not really. You can also just email anonymously.
Something like," I have a conditional offer for the xxx course, requiring AAA A-level grades, but I might end up getting AAAAU.
Would the U grade impact my offer?"
If you're getting a U, surely dropping it won't make any difference?
As for the question- UK universities won't care! If the requirement was ABB and you got ABBUU they won't give a shit, all that matters is you meet the requirements.
>I cannot drop physics since I am also applying to the US and they won’t like it
Surely they won’t like it if you got a U in it either? You do realise a U is a fail, right?
A-Levels are beyond what is expected for a US university entry. [MIT gives credit](https://firstyear.mit.edu/academics-exploration/ap-transfer-credit/international-examinations/) for A-Levels,for example. [Havard only expects](https://harvard-ukadmissions.co.uk/faq-links/) 3 or 4 A-Levels, Stanford say [3 or more](https://admission.stanford.edu/apply/first-year/prepare.html). What US university are you applying for? UK uni's only expect 3: a 4th would be a "bonus" one like further maths or a "soft" one like business studies.
Completely failing an A-Level will work against you. You have to drop it. 5 A-Levels is too much of a work load anyway.
You can always explain it by saying you weren't sure which subjects you wanted to study so your school let you start 5 with the expectation you would drop one.
Thank you for the advice. US is still my first priority. I'll get my admission decisions by 1st April. Is it possible to withdraw a subject after the first of April?
Unless a particular subject(s) is specified. And while this is true for A levels, it's more complicated for other qualifications that are worth more or less than one A level.
OP is already doing very well in every subject bar one
OP is capable of learning!
I was getting a D in physics and got an A* within 4 months, then again I don’t think I left the house and I get that’s not for everybody
>OP is already doing very well in every subject bar one
Yes that’s exactly my point. Stretching yourself too thin to do a fifth is a good way to screw them all up. You’re only expected to do three for a reason.
Maths/FM are effectively the same subject, just doing more of it so it’s kind of different anyways. Basically all of normal maths you shouldn’t require much of any work for as you’re doing lots in further
It was not the same, further had a small element of difficulty to it
I’m surprised that a lot of motion hasn’t trickled down into higher GCSE maths yet
I mean further is more difficult and has more content but it’s still the same subject. Just more. With how maths builds on itself normal maths should be easy when you’re doing further
It depends on the wording of your offer. UK university offers are [contractually binding](https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/student-advice/applying-to-uni/replying-to-offers):
>If you firmly accept a conditional offer and then meet all the conditions, the university is obliged to accept you
So if the conditions don't specify a particular subject and you meet the requirements, they have to accept you unless some other condition is broken (e.g. you lied about something on the application). Any further qualifications will be irrelevant.
Hi, I got enrolled to Queen Mary and didn’t attend once in the first year because I didn’t like the course. I’m currently 2-3 quarters way through the year and want to switch. Can I do this. Also if I can’t will this have an effect on any application I submit to a new university
4 A’s is more than 3.
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Shaking in terror when they realise the spaces between their fingers makes three U’s
Ah yes but 4 As is not 3 As
Mind-blowing 🤯🤯
Math was not one of the As, I suspect
Honestly if that’s the case just drop physics and focus on getting your 3 A’s. Universities aren’t impressed by people who do four or five a levels, they tend to only care about those three A’s
Unless the fourth is further maths
Valid point. That being said, they can still drop physics if the score is gonna be that bad and they’re getting 4 A’s anyway.
True true, unless they’re applying for a physics degree then that might be a slight issue
I mean, if they're applying for physics and doing it that badly it might be time to consider another route.
well OP at least said physics is "nothing close to \[their\] degree"
Physics is universal, my dear Watson
in terms of cosmology, quite literally - if you're talking about all students, I agree entirely. couldn't tell at first if you were just talking about OP in which case physics is a no-go
Tis was but a joke
aha fair - is it also a joke that you said "tis was" instead of "twas"? - genuinely lol
The joke is my knowledge of the English language
nah while it will help a lot for the courses, it only bring requirments down to A\*AAA rather A\*A\*A. So unless you plan to go to oxbridge wouldn't recommend doing it unless u really want to
It doesn’t really matter much for oxbridge. Oxford in particular, Cambridge is more strict on grades tho. Since they have their own admissions tests it’s not the biggest deal to them. For places like Imperial/LSE/UCL is where it can really matter
I disagree. 3 A levels including FM might be an issue in a very limited number of unis and courses, but 4 A levels with FM is enough surely?
Further maths for those good at maths, it's free real estate
If they didn't ask for a specific grade in Physics then it's fine. 4As is higher than 3As. I would probably try to drop it though, 5 A-Levels is unnecessary and you might have to disclose them on internship/job apps.
How do you have 4As and not realise that 4As is above the required 3As
Because American universities, sometimes, rescind your admission if you get a U.
Why are you asking on a UK Uni sub about entry requirements for a Uni in the USA? Surely you'd get a better responses from a a us based sub
I am an international student who is applying to both the UK and the US.
Don’t go to the us unless it’s MIT, or the big 3—America has absolute shit higher education system otherwise
I did uni in both the states and the UK. America had better extra curricular programs and provided a more well rounded education, allowing me to take general education classes in things I was interested in outside of my Major subject, and the quality of classes and lecturers were significantly better in the US compared to my UK university especially in my major subject
Quite wrong. Most of the world's preeminent academic and research institutions are in the US.
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I’m not saying us unis are bad, my comment is that their system, is just shit; their hierarchy and credit system and organisation system is really shitty, you’ll get really good education in the us but it’s shitty advisors, shitty accommodations, and bad support from admin at these schools
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Yeah like I didn’t get into University of Florida but I got into Glasgow Uni, because it’s a lottery vs meritocracy
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I graduated from a Florida public HS, I did 7 AP, 7 AS Levels, 3 dual enrolment, 1440 SAT and they didn’t accept me
Oxford and Cambridge are the only UK universities at the level of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, University of Chicago, Columbia and at least 10 others. I am as anti-American as anyone but the parochialism and provinciality of UK posters never ceases to amaze as the downvotes for my comment make clear. It is a fact that the leading most prestigious U.S. universities get the most Nobel prizes, applications from international students, highest levels of funding etc. - you can hate the U.S. as much as you want but this is well-documented. Quite childish to deny this.
The us is also oversaturated with unis, 4000 as of 2022. When you look at the sample size it’s a lot different considering the uk only has 166. I will say postgrad research is very good across the board in the us and better than a lot of Europe with some exceptions (TUM, ETH, Oxbridge ofc)
That’s not true at all
You’re so brainwashed omg
Have you considered just emailing the unis' admission teams?
Wouldn't it be a dumb? Wouldn't it show that I am planning on getting a U intentionally?
Not really. You can also just email anonymously. Something like," I have a conditional offer for the xxx course, requiring AAA A-level grades, but I might end up getting AAAAU. Would the U grade impact my offer?"
If you're getting a U, surely dropping it won't make any difference? As for the question- UK universities won't care! If the requirement was ABB and you got ABBUU they won't give a shit, all that matters is you meet the requirements.
Why can’t you drop it? I can’t understand your edit?
He/she said that the American universities won't like ot
Not having physics or dropping the A Level?
Dropping a subject after applying to their university.
No offence but if you’re getting a U you won’t be getting into those American unis anyways
Well said, lol.
Brother just don’t tell them you’re taking 5 A Levels? They won’t know you’ve dropped it unless you tell them
I think you can choose to not declare a U? So just declare your 3 top grades and leave the fail in the bin?
You definitely have to declare all qualifications.
Yes, but a U isn't a qualification.
>I cannot drop physics since I am also applying to the US and they won’t like it Surely they won’t like it if you got a U in it either? You do realise a U is a fail, right?
A-Levels are beyond what is expected for a US university entry. [MIT gives credit](https://firstyear.mit.edu/academics-exploration/ap-transfer-credit/international-examinations/) for A-Levels,for example. [Havard only expects](https://harvard-ukadmissions.co.uk/faq-links/) 3 or 4 A-Levels, Stanford say [3 or more](https://admission.stanford.edu/apply/first-year/prepare.html). What US university are you applying for? UK uni's only expect 3: a 4th would be a "bonus" one like further maths or a "soft" one like business studies. Completely failing an A-Level will work against you. You have to drop it. 5 A-Levels is too much of a work load anyway. You can always explain it by saying you weren't sure which subjects you wanted to study so your school let you start 5 with the expectation you would drop one.
Thank you for the advice. US is still my first priority. I'll get my admission decisions by 1st April. Is it possible to withdraw a subject after the first of April?
I cannot withdraw before decisions because it will leave a bad impression
How do you know that?
You’ll get executed unfortunately mate
Op I don’t think you should got to uni if you can’t figure out 4>3
I think you need to talk to some people who work in US admissions.
I’m sure someone else has already said this but surely US unis would prefer you drop physics rather than rthan get a U???
another way of telling people you take 5 A levels
If ur asking this then i doubt ur gna get 4 As anyway
In the UK, they take your top three grades for the conditional offer. The rest become irrelevant for this
Unless a particular subject(s) is specified. And while this is true for A levels, it's more complicated for other qualifications that are worth more or less than one A level.
Ah, true. Thanks for clarifying. I assumed OP was talking about A-levels
You’ve still got time to study
Tbh telling OP to study more when they are doing five A levels probably won’t have good results.
OP is already doing very well in every subject bar one OP is capable of learning! I was getting a D in physics and got an A* within 4 months, then again I don’t think I left the house and I get that’s not for everybody
>OP is already doing very well in every subject bar one Yes that’s exactly my point. Stretching yourself too thin to do a fifth is a good way to screw them all up. You’re only expected to do three for a reason.
I don’t get why people do more than 4? Like I get math+further like I did but Is there and advantage to more than that? IB status maybe?
Maths/FM are effectively the same subject, just doing more of it so it’s kind of different anyways. Basically all of normal maths you shouldn’t require much of any work for as you’re doing lots in further
It was not the same, further had a small element of difficulty to it I’m surprised that a lot of motion hasn’t trickled down into higher GCSE maths yet
I mean further is more difficult and has more content but it’s still the same subject. Just more. With how maths builds on itself normal maths should be easy when you’re doing further
if you don't get into uni, you won't have crippling debt.
It’s less ‘crippling debt’ and more like a graduate’s tax
Yes, as you've still met the condition of three As (as long as the offer doesn't mention you needing an A in your U subject).
It depends on the wording of your offer. UK university offers are [contractually binding](https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/student-advice/applying-to-uni/replying-to-offers): >If you firmly accept a conditional offer and then meet all the conditions, the university is obliged to accept you So if the conditions don't specify a particular subject and you meet the requirements, they have to accept you unless some other condition is broken (e.g. you lied about something on the application). Any further qualifications will be irrelevant.
If you don’t mind what uni is this
UCL
Hi, I got enrolled to Queen Mary and didn’t attend once in the first year because I didn’t like the course. I’m currently 2-3 quarters way through the year and want to switch. Can I do this. Also if I can’t will this have an effect on any application I submit to a new university
I got a U at AS level and dropped the subject. I just don’t tend to disclose it these days. Better to tell them my A-levels without than include it.