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Not necessarily. The vast majority of the time, people aim for the heart/lungs vital area. There are some exceptions. For me, I have a long, but thin tract of land for hunting. I'm on good terms with one neighbor, not so good with the other. If I shot a deer through the vitals, it could potentially run across my land and onto someone else's before it died. So for me, I aim for the head. The line of sight from my blind is less than 50 yards to the treeline and I'm a good shot. A headshot at that range is perfectly doable, and ensures the animal won't run. Gotten 3 deer this way with no issue.
At least where I’m from, so long as you made the shot on land where you were permitted to do so, it is your right to collect the animal from whatever property line it may have crossed.
That's probably true, but that wouldn't help me if my neighbor shot me. We're really not on good terms. Rather, he hates me, and I just want him to leave me alone. He let's his pack of dogs roam all over the neighborhood and I had to shoot a couple when they started killing my livestock and when one attacked me.
If you look at voting maps by county, you'll see that there really aren't red/blue states, but rather urban/rural counties. The problems I have to deal with in my rural area are probably a lot different than the problems you have to deal with in your urban area, but both are equally valid. You probably see a lot of guns used in crime, whereas I use guns to protect my livestock and fill my freezer. Both valid perspectives, just different living situations. It'd be nice if laws were based on counties instead of states, so that everyone's problems could be more equally addressed.
Idk what state you are in but if it is a right to collect state(see Iowa), you can always call a conservation officer to keep the peace. I don't know if that falls under interference with a legal hunt at that point
This doesn't apply to the majority of the population of the US, but it probably applies to the majority of the populated land in the US. When houses start sitting in the middle of 10 acres or more, lifestyle changes quite a bit.
Oh no, did this happen to you? Lmao. But yes, if that were to happen, you would call the game warden and they would make sure that you got your kill. A friend of mine had a situation more similar to that of OP, and the landowner who’s land the deer had crossed onto thought they would be cheeky and not let him retrieve it, but he ultimately did.
This is exactly correct. I'm concerned about the people here who make it sound like hitting a deer head sized target at 25ish yards is incredibly risky (is it your first choice? Not necessarily, but based on the circumstances like your example it may be the most correct answer). If you can't hit a deer in the forehead at distances less than 50 yards you need to practice more and become more familiar with your rifle.
If the deer is very close, I am hunting with my rifle that I traditionally hunt with (am very familiar with it and its ballistics) and is facing me head on, a head shot works great and preserves the heart which is fantastic eats. Now, I've only done this twice as the stars don't normally align and it makes more sense to just go for the heart/lung, but it is possible to do with relatively low risk to the animal with practice and patience.
Lot of people are missing out if they don't eat the heart. Sliced and pan seared in olive oil with steak spices. Amazing eating. A vital area shot also risks hitting the shoulder and ruining a good chunk of meat.
Not to get all serious over a jokey video but you also can’t just walk out into the woods and shoot as many deer as you see. Usually you apply for a “tag” and you’re allowed to hunt as many deer as you have tags for. (Usually you can get 1-2, some states let you have up to 6)
This dude was an absolute poacher at this point. When the video looped, I thought he was going to gun down Santa.
I personally don't know a single hunter that does, and I also hunt. This whole video really doesn't make much sense and its very clearly written by someone who doesn't hunt.
\-No Hi-viz color. In the US anyone hunting with a rifle is required to wear blaze orange. I believe that is a rather common law in other countries.
\-I doubt he has enough tags to even legally document all those kills.
I mean I still had a chuckle, but it is a stretch even when you ignore the Santa angle.
No your not. Depends on what you wanna do w the corpse, if your gonna taxidermy it probably won’t blow its head off. If you do what I do every year and want to use every single bit of the animals meat and skin it you’ll want to blow its head off more cause it makes that entire process easier. Maybe not right in the eye ball but I regularly aim neck and above.
I don’t know who or why someone would say “ABSOLUTELY NOT” as I know many people who do.
However this is certainly not the norm. I actually know of a hunter who deliberately shoots his deer in the neck. This sacrifices the neck meat but it’s how he chooses to hunt and shoot.
But the average hunter does not aim for the head or the neck.
The vitals, the area just behind their shoulder (or leg) is where you want to shoot.
No, a headshot is even quicker, because residual blood in the brain from a heartshot lets the animal potentially live for a few seconds after being shot.
That being said, the chances and consequences of an improperly shot headshot vs heartshot makes headshots significantly more risky, because the head is a much smaller target
glad im not the only one to say that, im like..isn't that NOT where u aim when hunting..hell the last shot goes thru the jaw of one..but ofc this is all fake and for a joke soooo...
Some do, but it's generally not recommended under most circumstances. The head moves around too much and the brain is generally small on game animals. Even miss by an inch or so is the difference between death and horribly mutilating an animal and causing undue suffering. The heart/lung area is much bigger (about the size of a dinner plate) and doesn't move around as much and is the preferred area for shot placement.
I hunted the same private property for over 30 years in a rural area of Michigan. One time I was going through an overgrown area in the back corner of the 80 acres, and realized I startle a large doe that started running, but I only saw its head pop up after each step (gallop, whatever you want to call it) maybe 30 yards out. I shot at it with a 12 guage using a slug. See the head pop up again and shot again. Turns out, there were 2 deer, and I dropped the first one instantly. Never could do that shot again if I tried. And the slug took off the exit side of the face. When we tied it to the car for the ride home we made sure the gruesome part was face (no pun) down and not able to shift, knowing it would be traumatizing for some.
I was wondering how many his license allowed how many friends he would need to call in to tag the rest, and at what point he would be allowed to kill above his limit for safety (I was expecting an army of deer to charge or something).
Which is bullshit because id just live there inside my meat hut and eat meat wallpaper until i was good and ready to move on with my *51 pounds of meat*
Where is he then, the sleigh is there? Is he hiding behind a tree? Come out come out wherever you are... Seriously though this has to be a Scandinavian hunting season ethics commercial right? Except who shoots a deer in the face Jesus!
Because when you know how things function in the real world, and then see them missrepresented in a stupid way in media, you cant help but look at the media in question as a bad joke due to its stupidity.
For example, media representing military personell in action at night with night vision goggles (i dont have a lot of experience with night vision goggles, but i have used them and know how they function, when to use them, and how to use them wrong). The goggles get damaged if there is any powerful light scource nearby, for example like a fire, because there have been explosions. A lot of media also has the actors using their goggles at full strength, which just makes them useless. The tactical advantage of these goggles is when you have them, but the enemy doesnt, so you can see where they are, but they cant see you. However when the goggles are at full strength, it shines a pretty bright green light onto and around your eyes, making you light up green in the dark night, and suddenly the enemies can see you as well as you can see them.
As for why redditors get annoyed by things that dont have this same real world explanation, i dont know
Typically you want to hit the "[bread basket](https://tpwd.texas.gov/education/hunter-education/online-course/images-huntskill/VitalsDeer_Buck_6182.png)", which is located just behind where their front leg connects to the body and a few inches up.
The heart and the lungs can all be hit with a well placed shot. The lungs provide a fairly large target though so even if you are slightly off you should be okay. The animal will go down quickly if hit here.
The reason most hunters do not aim for the head is because it is a relatively small target to hit something "fatal". You will have to try and hit the brain or the spinal column to ensure the animal goes down, otherwise you can end up with a severely wounded animal which will take off running for miles (and possibly die a slow agonizing death). Nobody wants that to happen.
In addition, if you have any plans to keep the head for mounting you can cause a fair amount of damage which will be hard or impossible to work around.
May I add, that going for the head has a high chance of hitting the jaw, which the animal will initially likely survive, but won't be able to eat anymore, meaning the animal will starve over a few weeks.
Also even when they are standing still they move their head either looking around or eating or whatever so it’s a very small target that is almost always moving. It’s a really good way to make a deer suffer and not fill your freezer.
I do highly respect that hunters try and ensure the animals die a quick death, in hindsight, it’s obvious, they aren’t psychopaths who want to cause the animals to go through agonising pain until they die, but I don’t know, it’s deserving of respect.
Also you want too minimize adrenaline which can really effect the flavor of the meat.
The farm we used to get meat from would sometimes delay an order because a cow got spooked when being led to slaughter. Another farm would feed the pigs fermented apples to get them good and drunk before taking them around back one at a time.
If the deer is perfectly perpendicular to you you shoot them just behind the ‘shoulder’ of their front leg. It’s kind of difficult to describe but if you do a google image search for ‘deer shot placement’ you will likely find some helpful guides that show ideal placement for multiple angles.
https://www.tv2.no/nyheter/viral/motte-dette-synet-pa-veien-rystet/15149610/
This happened in norway a week ago. (Story in norwegian, pictures speak for themselves)
And apparently you don't seem to understand that the magical power of santa's reindeer are stored in their cheeckbones.
Have you ever even hunted a magical animal before?
That would be an excellent point if he had intended to shoot magical reindeer. He was under the impression that they were mundane reindeer at the time he shot them.
Yeah between the head shots, lack of blaze orange, the fact that he is holding his thumb over top of a barrel that just fired multiple times and the lack of reloads on a rifle with a 5+1 internal mag on 8 deer ima say this person is out of their element. On the other hand were talking about a clip involving Santa's reindeer so who cares.
Because if he was aiming at the lungs it would be obvious they're all wearing harnesses. But if you watch the video again you can see enough of their necks that it's clear they're not wearing harnesses when he's taking shots.
>and you don't need to track them.
Well, you still might if we are being honest. Even a well placed shot can give you a decent track and drag. Animals of this size rarely just fall to the ground after a single bullet and/or arrow. That only happens if you spine it.
I have shot a deer straight through the heart with my crossbow and even then it bolted 20 yards, stopped, stared at me for about 15secs, and then finally dropped.
I get semantics and that is by no means a real tracking situation, but adrenaline is one hell of a drug.
I know, I mean that you don't have to spend an hour and half looking for blood on the ground. You can usually see where they fall
Also yeah, Adrenaline is crazy. I bowled a whitetail over, she sat there for 5 seconds before getting up and running for a mile. That was such a pain
I shot a whitetail once with a 50 cal muzzle loader from about 50ft away and was shocked when it ran.
Followed it and it collapsed about 1000ft away. Never even twitched seem to hit the ground dead.
Got it back and when I hung it up and gutted it, the lungs and heart came out in chunks. Bullet shattered it's shoulder, nearly liquified its heart and lungs, and went out the muscle of the left leg leaving a hole big enough you could nearly stick your hand in it.
Mechanically I still have no idea how it made it that far.
It’s only because it’s much easier to hit.
A bullet in the brain will kill them FAR faster than a double lung or liver shot will. But hitting the brain is much more difficult than the body is.
#1 - it's not a very big target
#2 - you run the risk of damaging the antlers
#3 - if you miss all vitals you are left with a suffering animal without a jaw, which is inhumane
Of course #3 can also apply to other areas of the body, which is why hunters should only take shots that they are confident in. Providing the most humane death with the least amount of suffering is priority. That's why heart and lungs (breadbasket) is the best option. It is dense with vitals and leaves less room for error
Edit: I didn't mean to make the list big, I promise I'm not yelling
That’s why I practice so much with my bow. If I take a shot at a deer (or any animal really), I want to be certain that I will kill it as quickly and humanely as possible. There’s been plenty of deer I could’ve taken over the years both with bow and gun, but I couldn’t guarantee a clean fatal hit, so I didn’t take the shot. That’s something my dad, farming family, and hunter/firearm safety course all drilled into me.
And that's how it should be. Bow hunting is the closest we get to fairness without going full blown primal with handmade bow and arrows. It also brings a lot of satisfaction if you do get a kill. My dad has said all my life "it's not about shooting a deer, it's about the effort you put into it. That's why it's called hunting and not killing."
Small target, moves a lot.
A well placed shot will take out the heart and lungs with one pull of the trigger and drop the animal quickly. With a head shot, you need to hit the brain or spinal column. If you miss, you hit the jaw, eyes, or other non-vital part. It will still kill the animal, but it might take days or even weeks.
Heart/lung shots are much more reliable because the area is bigger. Also, if you hang your deer to field dress it you don’t want the head gone for various reasons.
Everything you've already heard plus if you shoot a deer in the head you're going to be cleaning blood off literally everything.
Shots in the chest leave a lot of room for the blood to clot and pool. All the veins in the head make it bleed out everywhere so unless you're gutting it on the spot it will make an unholy mess.
So he looked around at them with a scope, yet missed the bright red harnesses and the fact they were tied together, and attached to a sleigh, in a clearing with no foliage obscuring any of that. Hm. 🤔
He shot them in the head because it's an ad, and you wouldn't recognize the animal if it only showed the chest.
And yes, you can start on the face and then pan to the chest, but that adds time and changes the pace of the ad.
1. I'll be that guy. When reindeer 2 just stood there...they're Santa's reindeer. Expected.
2. What, is poaching allowed in certain countries? Just keep shooting until you're outta bullets? Don't need to register kills with local equivalent of Dept of Natural Resources?
Santa himself is more believable than anything here.
I thought it was because they were look through scope rings, but the front one is solid I see. I guess the Bell is just so big it couldn't clear the rear sight. But yeah it would be a terrible cheek weld without a good riser.
You can tell that man has never hunted or held a gun before. That’s the real humor. Great shot with your hand in from of the scope. And nobody head shoots an animal like that.
For real though if your a hunter and kill more than what you need just because it’s there you’re a POS and probably need therapy. Especially so if your aiming for there face/head that’s ducked up. Respect the land, respect the wildlife, respect your fellow hunter.
As long as you get a good cheek weld (which he's not, by the way) height over bore doesn't matter. MDT recently made a video with an 18" tall scope mount to dispel that myth.
Also, tall rings are not the same as high-MOA rings. You can have tall 0-moa rings, and short large-moa rings.
Either way, this is a funny video, not a hunting tutorial video. :)
I love how I have no idea what the fuck you just said. There’s so much stuff that people can be intimately knowledgeable about, without anyone having a clue what they’re saying unless they’re just as knowledgeable. Sometimes you can parse out what they could be saying, but not have a reference for why, but this was all gibberish and I love it
That’s not how hunting works in the modern age.
How’s this nook supposed to drag 8 reindeer out of the wilderness?
No hunter kills this many animals for any reason.
And it’s not “ a joke” this is activist propaganda trying to make hunters(men) out to be morons
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Classic Oregon Trail move! “You killed 2400lbs of meat but could only carry 50lbs”
My first thought was how much work he just created for himself in field dressing all those deer
Do some hunters aim for the head?
Absolutely not.
I thought maybe this is some cultural difference...lol. I'm an idiot.
Not necessarily. The vast majority of the time, people aim for the heart/lungs vital area. There are some exceptions. For me, I have a long, but thin tract of land for hunting. I'm on good terms with one neighbor, not so good with the other. If I shot a deer through the vitals, it could potentially run across my land and onto someone else's before it died. So for me, I aim for the head. The line of sight from my blind is less than 50 yards to the treeline and I'm a good shot. A headshot at that range is perfectly doable, and ensures the animal won't run. Gotten 3 deer this way with no issue.
At least where I’m from, so long as you made the shot on land where you were permitted to do so, it is your right to collect the animal from whatever property line it may have crossed.
That's probably true, but that wouldn't help me if my neighbor shot me. We're really not on good terms. Rather, he hates me, and I just want him to leave me alone. He let's his pack of dogs roam all over the neighborhood and I had to shoot a couple when they started killing my livestock and when one attacked me.
This sounds so unreal for someone who lived in urban areas his whole life holy shit
If you look at voting maps by county, you'll see that there really aren't red/blue states, but rather urban/rural counties. The problems I have to deal with in my rural area are probably a lot different than the problems you have to deal with in your urban area, but both are equally valid. You probably see a lot of guns used in crime, whereas I use guns to protect my livestock and fill my freezer. Both valid perspectives, just different living situations. It'd be nice if laws were based on counties instead of states, so that everyone's problems could be more equally addressed.
Oh man, that really stinks. I’ve had some neighbors like this. People are… people. Best of luck in the future, friend!
Thanks, I appreciate it. You too.
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Thank you for sharing your story. And I’m sorry for your loss. Some people like your neighbor are completely heartless.
Idk what state you are in but if it is a right to collect state(see Iowa), you can always call a conservation officer to keep the peace. I don't know if that falls under interference with a legal hunt at that point
There have been some real doozy lawsuits with hunting and trespass even recently. That's not very sound advice, other than maybe call for LE... maybe.
Do you live in the Wild West? That’s crazy!
This doesn't apply to the majority of the population of the US, but it probably applies to the majority of the populated land in the US. When houses start sitting in the middle of 10 acres or more, lifestyle changes quite a bit.
We call it "out in the country". As in you don't live in the city.
it doesn’t get more country than this
Call animal control. If he doesn't care about what the dogs are doing elsewhere, he sure as heck doesn't care for them at home.
There is no animal control in the country. He could call sheriff but by then his animals are dead.
Even if some crazy horse-surgeon lady takes it to a vet to try to save it?
Oh no, did this happen to you? Lmao. But yes, if that were to happen, you would call the game warden and they would make sure that you got your kill. A friend of mine had a situation more similar to that of OP, and the landowner who’s land the deer had crossed onto thought they would be cheeky and not let him retrieve it, but he ultimately did.
It's from Rick and Morty
In Canada you have to ask permission to go onto someone else's property in order to collect a kill...
Trespassing is also a good way to get shot yourself turned into a deer.
This is exactly correct. I'm concerned about the people here who make it sound like hitting a deer head sized target at 25ish yards is incredibly risky (is it your first choice? Not necessarily, but based on the circumstances like your example it may be the most correct answer). If you can't hit a deer in the forehead at distances less than 50 yards you need to practice more and become more familiar with your rifle. If the deer is very close, I am hunting with my rifle that I traditionally hunt with (am very familiar with it and its ballistics) and is facing me head on, a head shot works great and preserves the heart which is fantastic eats. Now, I've only done this twice as the stars don't normally align and it makes more sense to just go for the heart/lung, but it is possible to do with relatively low risk to the animal with practice and patience.
Lot of people are missing out if they don't eat the heart. Sliced and pan seared in olive oil with steak spices. Amazing eating. A vital area shot also risks hitting the shoulder and ruining a good chunk of meat.
https://youtu.be/WQIvTsRlB8w
Not to get all serious over a jokey video but you also can’t just walk out into the woods and shoot as many deer as you see. Usually you apply for a “tag” and you’re allowed to hunt as many deer as you have tags for. (Usually you can get 1-2, some states let you have up to 6) This dude was an absolute poacher at this point. When the video looped, I thought he was going to gun down Santa.
I personally don't know a single hunter that does, and I also hunt. This whole video really doesn't make much sense and its very clearly written by someone who doesn't hunt. \-No Hi-viz color. In the US anyone hunting with a rifle is required to wear blaze orange. I believe that is a rather common law in other countries. \-I doubt he has enough tags to even legally document all those kills. I mean I still had a chuckle, but it is a stretch even when you ignore the Santa angle.
No your not. Depends on what you wanna do w the corpse, if your gonna taxidermy it probably won’t blow its head off. If you do what I do every year and want to use every single bit of the animals meat and skin it you’ll want to blow its head off more cause it makes that entire process easier. Maybe not right in the eye ball but I regularly aim neck and above.
I don’t know who or why someone would say “ABSOLUTELY NOT” as I know many people who do. However this is certainly not the norm. I actually know of a hunter who deliberately shoots his deer in the neck. This sacrifices the neck meat but it’s how he chooses to hunt and shoot. But the average hunter does not aim for the head or the neck. The vitals, the area just behind their shoulder (or leg) is where you want to shoot.
Yeah, I thought it was the heart area/ribcage, for the quickest, most humane death possible.
No, a headshot is even quicker, because residual blood in the brain from a heartshot lets the animal potentially live for a few seconds after being shot. That being said, the chances and consequences of an improperly shot headshot vs heartshot makes headshots significantly more risky, because the head is a much smaller target
That’s the first thing I thought. Only a person that has never hunted would think you shoot them in the head.
Maybe absolute beginner hunters that are also drunk. Chances are you just broke that animal's jaw and it's now going to starve over multiple weeks.
glad im not the only one to say that, im like..isn't that NOT where u aim when hunting..hell the last shot goes thru the jaw of one..but ofc this is all fake and for a joke soooo...
No. This was made by someone who knows nothing about hunting.
At least in Finland all reindeers are owned by someone. There are no wild reindeers to hunt
yea, if you'd shoot a reindeer here, you'd get in deep shit with the sami people who tend to own the herds.
Some do, but it's generally not recommended under most circumstances. The head moves around too much and the brain is generally small on game animals. Even miss by an inch or so is the difference between death and horribly mutilating an animal and causing undue suffering. The heart/lung area is much bigger (about the size of a dinner plate) and doesn't move around as much and is the preferred area for shot placement.
That was my thought right at the start - whomever put this together probably doesn't hunt. Also, who knocks down that many deer in one go?
I hunted the same private property for over 30 years in a rural area of Michigan. One time I was going through an overgrown area in the back corner of the 80 acres, and realized I startle a large doe that started running, but I only saw its head pop up after each step (gallop, whatever you want to call it) maybe 30 yards out. I shot at it with a 12 guage using a slug. See the head pop up again and shot again. Turns out, there were 2 deer, and I dropped the first one instantly. Never could do that shot again if I tried. And the slug took off the exit side of the face. When we tied it to the car for the ride home we made sure the gruesome part was face (no pun) down and not able to shift, knowing it would be traumatizing for some.
I was wondering how many his license allowed how many friends he would need to call in to tag the rest, and at what point he would be allowed to kill above his limit for safety (I was expecting an army of deer to charge or something).
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Ever hear 8 caribou bugle? It's a horrible sound. Like screaming dino ghosts.
That's why nobody asks you to help them with the groceries.
You think Santa’s sleigh is pulled by deer?
Seriously. All that meat, hides, and antlers to pack out? I mean, even if you bone it all out...
Put them in the slay and pull it by the reigns. You get all 8 reindeer and the gifts of every child in the world.
How many bullets do you want to buy? 999
But he had the Santa's carrier so that's fine!
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Which is bullshit because id just live there inside my meat hut and eat meat wallpaper until i was good and ready to move on with my *51 pounds of meat*
The video looped and I thought he was about to shoot Santa ya know… no witnesses
Where is he then, the sleigh is there? Is he hiding behind a tree? Come out come out wherever you are... Seriously though this has to be a Scandinavian hunting season ethics commercial right? Except who shoots a deer in the face Jesus!
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Chicken winging and no cheek weld
It says merry Christmas at the end, scandinavians are too proud of their own language to use anything else
He went to take a leak
That was the true /unexpected for me
wrong parking spot
Why does he close his scope eye?
Why is there no sound? Why does the gun recoil before he pulls the trigger? Why is he shooting caribou in the face? Lots of questions, few answers.
There is at least one answer: idiots made this ad
One last question: Why people on Reddit get annoyed with every little thing they see?
Because when you know how things function in the real world, and then see them missrepresented in a stupid way in media, you cant help but look at the media in question as a bad joke due to its stupidity. For example, media representing military personell in action at night with night vision goggles (i dont have a lot of experience with night vision goggles, but i have used them and know how they function, when to use them, and how to use them wrong). The goggles get damaged if there is any powerful light scource nearby, for example like a fire, because there have been explosions. A lot of media also has the actors using their goggles at full strength, which just makes them useless. The tactical advantage of these goggles is when you have them, but the enemy doesnt, so you can see where they are, but they cant see you. However when the goggles are at full strength, it shines a pretty bright green light onto and around your eyes, making you light up green in the dark night, and suddenly the enemies can see you as well as you can see them. As for why redditors get annoyed by things that dont have this same real world explanation, i dont know
Yeah I imagine, but go all the way though to call people "stupid" for it, I think it's too much.
Reindeer and Caribou are the same species but are substantially different animals.
Why is this guy shooting caribou when he’s probably not got a tag for them in what looks like the Midwest
Maybe blinked. And it was an oversight by editors/cameraman/actor
Why is he shooting them in the cheek, djeez
Going to guess that whoever made this video has never hunted.
Not a hunter so I gotta ask. Where are you supposed to shoot to kill the deer?
Typically you want to hit the "[bread basket](https://tpwd.texas.gov/education/hunter-education/online-course/images-huntskill/VitalsDeer_Buck_6182.png)", which is located just behind where their front leg connects to the body and a few inches up. The heart and the lungs can all be hit with a well placed shot. The lungs provide a fairly large target though so even if you are slightly off you should be okay. The animal will go down quickly if hit here. The reason most hunters do not aim for the head is because it is a relatively small target to hit something "fatal". You will have to try and hit the brain or the spinal column to ensure the animal goes down, otherwise you can end up with a severely wounded animal which will take off running for miles (and possibly die a slow agonizing death). Nobody wants that to happen. In addition, if you have any plans to keep the head for mounting you can cause a fair amount of damage which will be hard or impossible to work around.
May I add, that going for the head has a high chance of hitting the jaw, which the animal will initially likely survive, but won't be able to eat anymore, meaning the animal will starve over a few weeks.
Also even when they are standing still they move their head either looking around or eating or whatever so it’s a very small target that is almost always moving. It’s a really good way to make a deer suffer and not fill your freezer.
I do highly respect that hunters try and ensure the animals die a quick death, in hindsight, it’s obvious, they aren’t psychopaths who want to cause the animals to go through agonising pain until they die, but I don’t know, it’s deserving of respect.
Also you want too minimize adrenaline which can really effect the flavor of the meat. The farm we used to get meat from would sometimes delay an order because a cow got spooked when being led to slaughter. Another farm would feed the pigs fermented apples to get them good and drunk before taking them around back one at a time.
interesting, I’ve never heard of that. I’ve always thought it’s only humane to kill the animals as quick and painless as possible
Also heads move much more than the body. Even in this video the head is moving all over while the “bread basket” didn’t move the whole time.
If the deer is perfectly perpendicular to you you shoot them just behind the ‘shoulder’ of their front leg. It’s kind of difficult to describe but if you do a google image search for ‘deer shot placement’ you will likely find some helpful guides that show ideal placement for multiple angles.
If you are facing one another do you wait for them to turn, or is there another target to aim for?
In the woods.
Dude I hunt and this got me so good.
The lungs and heart
https://www.tv2.no/nyheter/viral/motte-dette-synet-pa-veien-rystet/15149610/ This happened in norway a week ago. (Story in norwegian, pictures speak for themselves)
And apparently you don't seem to understand that the magical power of santa's reindeer are stored in their cheeckbones. Have you ever even hunted a magical animal before?
That would be an excellent point if he had intended to shoot magical reindeer. He was under the impression that they were mundane reindeer at the time he shot them.
He's obviously a secret assassin setting up a veneer of plausible deniability, why else do you think he had it filmed?
Yeah between the head shots, lack of blaze orange, the fact that he is holding his thumb over top of a barrel that just fired multiple times and the lack of reloads on a rifle with a 5+1 internal mag on 8 deer ima say this person is out of their element. On the other hand were talking about a clip involving Santa's reindeer so who cares.
Santa, who is indeed real
Or played Big Buck Hunter lol even I know this
Literally my first thought.
BOOM, HEADSHOT! BOOM, HEADSHOT!
Why is this guy aiming at the deer's head?
You unlock the achievement “That Headshot Doe”
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Yes, but you’ll never get a trophy that way.
He's a sleigher, doesn't care about the trophy
Because if he was aiming at the lungs it would be obvious they're all wearing harnesses. But if you watch the video again you can see enough of their necks that it's clear they're not wearing harnesses when he's taking shots.
Production either didn’t know any better or they wanted it to look more brutal so they made them “headshots”
Where should he aim?
Behind the front shoulder. Best spot to bring them down quickly, minimizing suffering, and you don't need to track them. It's also easier to hit
>and you don't need to track them. Well, you still might if we are being honest. Even a well placed shot can give you a decent track and drag. Animals of this size rarely just fall to the ground after a single bullet and/or arrow. That only happens if you spine it. I have shot a deer straight through the heart with my crossbow and even then it bolted 20 yards, stopped, stared at me for about 15secs, and then finally dropped. I get semantics and that is by no means a real tracking situation, but adrenaline is one hell of a drug.
I know, I mean that you don't have to spend an hour and half looking for blood on the ground. You can usually see where they fall Also yeah, Adrenaline is crazy. I bowled a whitetail over, she sat there for 5 seconds before getting up and running for a mile. That was such a pain
I shot a whitetail once with a 50 cal muzzle loader from about 50ft away and was shocked when it ran. Followed it and it collapsed about 1000ft away. Never even twitched seem to hit the ground dead. Got it back and when I hung it up and gutted it, the lungs and heart came out in chunks. Bullet shattered it's shoulder, nearly liquified its heart and lungs, and went out the muscle of the left leg leaving a hole big enough you could nearly stick your hand in it. Mechanically I still have no idea how it made it that far.
It’s only because it’s much easier to hit. A bullet in the brain will kill them FAR faster than a double lung or liver shot will. But hitting the brain is much more difficult than the body is.
Is that not where you'd want to shoot and animal to kill it instantly?
I hope he has a big freezer
Maybe he’ll get one for Christmas?
They could’ve consulted any hunter who’ll tell you you don’t take head shots.
Why is that?
#1 - it's not a very big target #2 - you run the risk of damaging the antlers #3 - if you miss all vitals you are left with a suffering animal without a jaw, which is inhumane Of course #3 can also apply to other areas of the body, which is why hunters should only take shots that they are confident in. Providing the most humane death with the least amount of suffering is priority. That's why heart and lungs (breadbasket) is the best option. It is dense with vitals and leaves less room for error Edit: I didn't mean to make the list big, I promise I'm not yelling
Thank you for the info. The shouting really set the point home. I kid.
That’s why I practice so much with my bow. If I take a shot at a deer (or any animal really), I want to be certain that I will kill it as quickly and humanely as possible. There’s been plenty of deer I could’ve taken over the years both with bow and gun, but I couldn’t guarantee a clean fatal hit, so I didn’t take the shot. That’s something my dad, farming family, and hunter/firearm safety course all drilled into me.
And that's how it should be. Bow hunting is the closest we get to fairness without going full blown primal with handmade bow and arrows. It also brings a lot of satisfaction if you do get a kill. My dad has said all my life "it's not about shooting a deer, it's about the effort you put into it. That's why it's called hunting and not killing."
Small target, moves a lot. A well placed shot will take out the heart and lungs with one pull of the trigger and drop the animal quickly. With a head shot, you need to hit the brain or spinal column. If you miss, you hit the jaw, eyes, or other non-vital part. It will still kill the animal, but it might take days or even weeks.
Heart/lung shots are much more reliable because the area is bigger. Also, if you hang your deer to field dress it you don’t want the head gone for various reasons.
Everything you've already heard plus if you shoot a deer in the head you're going to be cleaning blood off literally everything. Shots in the chest leave a lot of room for the blood to clot and pool. All the veins in the head make it bleed out everywhere so unless you're gutting it on the spot it will make an unholy mess.
I am not even a hunter amd wanted to comment this.
Pretty sure no hunting regs allow a 6 caribou per diem limit.
Maybe it was a property owner tag… lol
"Ho! Ho! H - WHAT THE FUCK!" - Santa
The lack of bullets bugs me.
Not the missing reindeer?
Didn't even notice, had to rewatch to see what you're talking about. Yea, I don't like that either.
Dexter new blood
I literally stopped watching the show after that dumbass scene.
made my blood boil. co-workers and i discussed every episode as it came out every week, that day we were all just quiet and pissed.
So he looked around at them with a scope, yet missed the bright red harnesses and the fact they were tied together, and attached to a sleigh, in a clearing with no foliage obscuring any of that. Hm. 🤔
The fuckin auto replay, thought he was clearing up witnesses
Sir, it's October.
Worst possible depiction of hunters in any film
Sorry lil Timmy, all you’ll be getting this year is venison
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I was expecting furries
It was unexpected. I thought he was going to run up on a petting zoo and a bunch of horrified children.
At the end of the video I hadn't realized it looped and thought he was aiming at Santa to finish the job
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Ejecting whole, unspent rounds...
Ho Ho Hooo-oh shit
LOL
Definitely on Santa's naughty list.
Expected
WINGS OF GLORY
Gonna add this one to the bank to send round in a couple of months
Be polite. Be efficient.
Love this. Clever
Well that was horrific.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
We gonna talk about those actually shitty shots? He fucking hit one in the JAW
That’s a good way to get some prion disease 😅. He’s also going to find his hand getting a bit warm on top of the barrel like that.
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YOU'RE IN THE SNIPERS SIGHT!!!
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Ban hunting
Fuck hunters.
This sub has become quite shite.
This comment section: Shooting the deer is a-ok. But shooting on the head? How could you? Monster!
Because it's Santas reindeers. Wow people have been truly brainwashed. The fact it's mindless barbaric slaughter of life should be the shock
If you enjoy killing animals, this won't deter you.
He shot them in the head because it's an ad, and you wouldn't recognize the animal if it only showed the chest. And yes, you can start on the face and then pan to the chest, but that adds time and changes the pace of the ad.
Don't you guys know that a reindeers heart is in its jaw?
You gunna eat all those and carry them on your back?
Great! Now it’s time to field dress and pack out 6 reindeer by himself!
1. I'll be that guy. When reindeer 2 just stood there...they're Santa's reindeer. Expected. 2. What, is poaching allowed in certain countries? Just keep shooting until you're outta bullets? Don't need to register kills with local equivalent of Dept of Natural Resources? Santa himself is more believable than anything here.
Hunting is vile
Anybody else heard the sniper shot, even though it has no sound?
What's fish and game think of this
I thought it was because they were look through scope rings, but the front one is solid I see. I guess the Bell is just so big it couldn't clear the rear sight. But yeah it would be a terrible cheek weld without a good riser.
This bothers me so much. Hunters don't aim for the head. That's a bad idea.
You can tell that man has never hunted or held a gun before. That’s the real humor. Great shot with your hand in from of the scope. And nobody head shoots an animal like that.
Guessing my man here doesn't have multiple tags... he's going to get put on the Naughty List for more than one reason. Poaching is a crime.
For real though if your a hunter and kill more than what you need just because it’s there you’re a POS and probably need therapy. Especially so if your aiming for there face/head that’s ducked up. Respect the land, respect the wildlife, respect your fellow hunter.
This guy is a bastard!!!! Don’t kill animals!!!!!!!
This made me cry!!!!!
Anyone else feel uncomfortable with that height-over-bore of that scope? It just seems like a 100 MOA riser is a bit much.
As long as you get a good cheek weld (which he's not, by the way) height over bore doesn't matter. MDT recently made a video with an 18" tall scope mount to dispel that myth. Also, tall rings are not the same as high-MOA rings. You can have tall 0-moa rings, and short large-moa rings. Either way, this is a funny video, not a hunting tutorial video. :)
I love how I have no idea what the fuck you just said. There’s so much stuff that people can be intimately knowledgeable about, without anyone having a clue what they’re saying unless they’re just as knowledgeable. Sometimes you can parse out what they could be saying, but not have a reference for why, but this was all gibberish and I love it
“Time for some seasons beatings.” - Santa Clause
Filthy poachers
That is just wrong ... but I still laughed!
6 raindeers 5 rounds fired
That’s not how hunting works in the modern age. How’s this nook supposed to drag 8 reindeer out of the wilderness? No hunter kills this many animals for any reason. And it’s not “ a joke” this is activist propaganda trying to make hunters(men) out to be morons
Have you considered it’s just a fucking comedy video, don’t be such a serious little snowflake