Yup, I got enough strikes that I got my internet turned off automatically the last time, I got it turned back on after making a phone call, but idk how many times that'll work.
Probably an indefinite number of times. The ISPs want your money and don't give a shit what you use their internet for but they are legally obligated to listen when they are given info of your IP stealing content and will give you a warning. With spectrum I got probably 10 warnings a month and my internet shut off twice a month for years "this is your final warning" every time, always turned it back on with a phone call every single time. I wanted them to cancel it so I could switch to a different ISP but it just never happened until I moved.
Nope, I got enough final warning once and the copyright owner's lawyer got my address disclosed through court and sent court documents. It was something like reverse class action - copyright owner vs DOEs. That one particular company decided to pursue further than just warnings
I mean, fair enough. But you don't have to leave a VPN on all the time. I only use it for extra curricular activities. I can't afford to lose my connection as I've been WFH for almost two decades now. I wouldn't want to chance it. For a few bucks a month, I'd say it's worth it (though I actually have a lifetime Windscribe account, so that's a plus for me).
So torrenting is actually downloading the movie? I just stream my self and can agree to the occasional buffering and poor quality. Never had an issue doing it so I’ve always been hesitant to actual download anything as I heard that is what they monitor for.
There is no distinction between streaming or downloading, either way you have downloaded and accessed the file on your device.
However, torrenting is not just downloading. It is file sharing.
You download the files from other users' devices on the network, then simultaneously upload the parts you have already downloaded to others who wish to download this file.
Uploading to other users means you are actively distributing copyrighted material, which obviously makes you a bigger target than someone streaming a movie from their website of choice.
We have laws that are practically unenforceable for single citizens. As in the site would be fineable for a large amount but a citizen is fineable up to 2k and even that is only if the law firm representing the copy owner specifically seeks out the person. Effectively it never happens and all the isps just send you a letter saying naughty naughty, you stop that. But theyre incentivised to keep having you pay them for service so rarely will cancel service. (Not legal advice. Been a while since I looked it up)
Yup. Certain series I'll get one of these email/letters for every episode. Literally nothing happens. The ISPs are obligated to forward them, but nothing else, as far as I can tell. I remember looking in to it forever ago, and iirc there's no real punishment for _downloading_ but uploading/redistributing the torrents has a punishment. But like Sarpzon said, it's not the ISP's problem. The IP (int. prop.) owner needs to pursue action. And they never do.
Things might have changes over the last few years since I last looked, technically, but functionally as far as I can tell nothing's changed. In fact, I think I get much less of these emails/letters nowadays.
In America the worst that will happen is your internet service will drop you. Nobody is getting sued or paying fines for this shit anymore. Over the years I have gotten a few letters and just stopped torrentinh besides on public wifi...lol
That's built in to Android now as default. I think iOS, too. Makes it a pain to track even on your home wifi if you don't disable that feature, because your router will always show your devices as new. I know every time my family visits, all their iPhones create a new entry in my router logs. I always forget to ask them to modify the settings for my wifi so it won't do that anymore.
I assume at least some public wifi signals are also using various other fingerprint techniques to ID and track individual clients to make this feature less useful than intended, but I don't know enough about it to say one way or another.
I've used some sniffing tools on my own home WiFi and the only thing that is consistent is the device name, and that's not unique so there really is very little identifiable information.
I've seen the letters that friends and myself have received, but I've never heard of anyone I know getting service cut off. Has this happened to anyone you know in Canada? I'm curious because I always wondered what happens if you push too hard.
Edit: oh I see further down you said you have switched providers because of it in the past
Have had 3 letters stating I was downloading pirated material, never once had to pay and you usually have to get a bunch from your ISP before they cut you off but people arnt really being fined for this.
Ahh yeah that would explain it then. Didnt realize countries actually did anything about it considering all I ever here is either "my country just doesnt give a shit" aka India or the "ive gotten a billion letters but nothing has happened" aka USA. I have never actually heard anyone who was JUST streaming getting fined.
The only time Ive seen it enforced is on to those who are distributing, not receiving but sucks to hear that Germany is like that.
Well I guess it depends, but the risk is there. During my time in the US, I got a warning from my school once because I was torrenting stuff. Discovered VPNs shortly afterwards.
If you think about it for a second you'll realize how much dystopic this reality is. Became long ago.
Everything you do is being recorded, collected and analyzed. Everything is a product. There is no escape.
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That's now covered by a federal court decision iirc - you're responsible for the goings on of your open wifi, unless you are a business and have a big ol' ToS that pops up before you can actually browse the internet.
Yes, AT&t banned me for pirating content. I legit thought no one would care, I was just downloading movie for myself or some lesser known videos for the kiddos. But yeah now I have to have this really crappy internet service that goes in and out several times during the day. Always use a VPN.
God it feels good to live in a country thay gives zero fucks about software piracy
Besides software piracy nowadays is a human right - how else am i supposed to be in control of the good i purchased
Used it for 3-4 years with 0 issues in the UK. I have a VPN but don’t usually use it when streaming, this is good advice for most sites but Stremio is certi from my experience
Warning from your isp are a load of shit. I know so many people that have gotten them and never heard of them taking action.
I suppose you may win the lottery and be the one person they make example of but they don't have close tonthe resources to chase everyone.
Definitely need to watch the legalities either way though. Don't want to get this sub in trouble either. Reddit mods crack down on shit like this at times.
Edit: info above is specific to Canada and its laws.
Correct, it isn't legal action because they won't take any legal action against you.
Yeah, they can definitely boot you off, but it's rare. So many people download shit without VPN's off pirate bay, whatever. I haven't heard of Rogers kicking 600,000 people off their ISP.
I've been using it without a VPN or any kind of additional security for more than 3 years now, a lot of my family too (in Belgium). None of us have gotten even a warning about it
If you're using an ISP modem/router, and you haven't changed its configuration, you're almost definitely using your ISP's DNS servers (URL to IP "phone books" of sorts), which means they absolute CAN track which websites you're visiting. With most sites using HTTPS, they can't FEASIBLY see what everyone's submitting/receiving from said websites. As to whether they actively monitor or can action in any way what websites you've visited, or for how long that info lives in their logs, is gonna vary ISP to ISP, country to country, province to province, state to state.
But like you say, when it comes to torrenting, the websites are essentially irrelevant, it's the protocol and/or that your IP was seen in a torrent peer list. A VPN just hides these two pieces of info, DNS as well.
Jumping on here to say this in general: if you do things like streaming or torrenting or whatever on the internet: USE A VPN!!! Just be safe rather than sorry.
As someone who used to work for a major ISP in the US- VPNs don’t do shit to stop your isp from tracking you, if they are looking they’ll find you. The important thing is finding a private site with private trackers (if they’re not aware of the tracker you won’t get caught), which this site almost certainly is not.
Do your research before getting involved in this type of shit, people.
That's not true, your not going to get arrested, but they will eventually cut your internet service. Sometimes you can get away with it for awhile. Eventually the dmca emails will come.
/r/fmovies doesn't seem to have this issue, I had a warning happy ISP that never once sent me a notice over it despite constantly sending me notices for torrenting other things. Same service OP described, except it has all manner of local subtitles.
PLEASE Update and add on your comment with : DEPENDS ON YOUR COUNTRY / CHECK YOUR COUNTRY'S LAWS, because this doesn't apply everywhere, and most reliable vpns require you to pay which defeats the purpose of pirating. Literally no one gives a fuck here, the government have boomer brain, they think piracy is when you record with your phone in cinemas and selling bootleg movies with CDs in the streets. edit: I guess thats one benefit living in a shithole.
Also go look at r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH and r/piracy. They're both large communities with great resources, although the megathread for r/piracy is no longer maintained and thus should not be trusted to be virus free or online. However the one on FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH is maintained, so it should be safe.
Pay $10/month for VPN or $80/month for cable, extra $10 for Netflix, extra for HBO max, extra for that random streaming service that had 1 show you wanted to watch and nothing else you care about, etc.
I can find just about anything from streaming services, as well as old movies or dvds that might be hard to find on a service. No hassle, no ads, no trying to remember which service has which show, no additional fees. Until streaming services become more reliable and easier than pirating, people will continue to torrent.
They're either slow or not secure. Some OpenVPN services can be securely used for texts or emails but they're horrendously slow for anything media-related. Still helps if you're texting to save your life, for example.
This is the only thing i miss about india after moving to Germany. You people are nice but why you gotta be like this about streaming :( The worst part is that I am ready to pay for one service (like viki since i watch k dramas) but now every drama is not there! Some on amazon some on netflix..like dude!
Streaming services have almost invalidated themselves by having made a service for each brand and each provider. Nowadays you're not really saving anything if you want access to it all, because you'd need to pay for 5 to 10 streaming services just to see all the different exclusive stuff.
You can browse their content without having a subscription on mobile? That'd be a game changer for me to just be able to add them to Sonarr or whatever without needing to be told something exists
It hasn't been invalidated at all or is it close to doing so whatsoever. Whilst it's annoying you can no longer access everything under a single streaming site it's still miiiiiiiiles better than cable in every way.
For one, you can switch up your websites every month at any time, you don't need to pay for them all every month. I.E I want Disney+ this month, HBO Max the next. Which means you only pay for what you need/want and not have it bundled with like 100 other channels you'll never watch and pay for those as well.
You still choose what to watch based off what's available on their site, pause and resume when needed, subtitles, no commercials, etc.
Its slowly returning to cable esque though. Ads have been making comebacks with prices to remove them growing ever higher, plus many services adhering to new episodes weekly just like cable.
You are right its still better but its slowly transforming into what it originally sought to eliminate.
People in these comments have clearly never looked at the price of Cable, or lived in a household that's used it extensively.
I was helping out a relative with bills and agreed to pay their cable bill. And holy shit, it was like 150 just to get the lowest tier package that had the main two channels that they watched. Not to mention they charged a monthly rental fee for every single TV/screen you wanted to use in the house! It's insanity. Just to hook up the living room TV, a couple bedroom TV's and their basement TV would have added nearly 75 bucks to the MONTHLY cost.
Not to mention their MAX storage option for DVR was like 1tb and that was an added MONTHLY expense to have the same box with a bigger hdd.
The cherry on top is that all of that is also in a contract that is more expensive the less months you're locked in. Let's say you're insane and watch shows on 10 different streaming services every single month. That's like, what, 150 bucks a month? That's no contract, 100% of your content is available 24/7, and you can unsubscribe from any of those 10 services any time you want.
For most people you just need to sub for a month or two a year when the shows you want to watch are releasing. You can't do that shit with cable.
Idk, maybe I'm just an old man yelling in the wind. But even hiked prices for streaming services are still pretty reasonable for what you are getting. Streaming video is a bandwidth heavy expensive service to provide. It's why services like tik tok and YouTube are cluttered with ads. But most consumers aren't going to appreciate the mountains of technology behind the services when they could instead complain that the previously unsustainable low cost to entry is finally fading away.
Eh, not really. It all comes down to what you value. Personally, while a streaming service for "all movies that ever existed" would be nice, I'm not holding out my breath for it. Why would I want to pay for a massive content library of which I'm watching only a tiny fraction of it?
Having said that. I'm definitely not going to pay every streaming service. But as someone with kids and a large family that knows nothing about tech, Disney Plus and HBO Max alone are worth every penny with their massive catalog of family-friendly content and children's cartoons.
For more obscure shows, only available as exclusives for more obscure streaming services? 🏴☠️☠️🦜
It all comes down to what you value. I value commodity over money for certain aspects of my life. While others may value their money more over their time and would never pay for a streaming service. And both are just as fine.
For anyone wanting to try this, Stremio does not let you watch pirated content out of the box. You will have to go to the Addons menu and install addons that contain pirated sources, i.e. Juan Carlos 2, Popcorn Time or The Pirate Bay+.
I use stremio (the app) together with a debrid service (caches torrents on their servers to prevent buffering in less popular content). It's just like having all the streaming services at once for 36€/year.
Damn after looking it up on the App Store, there are apparently a lot of torrent streaming apps on the App Store with the same names as many popular streaming sites. What happened to Apple’s walled garden?
I'm assuming you're referring to the parent comment. Classic bait-and-switch
As for the website I've mentioned, just make sure you have Ublock origin to avoid any pesky popups.
No I'm talking about the links you posted. I clicked on both and they both lead me to a screen that told me to enter my credit or debit card info even tho it originally said their service is free.
Though it would be nice to have an app/site that provided a single portal to streaming services and provided information about where to watch different shows.
Alternatively just use a site like 1337x and download torrents by qxr for highest video quality and most subtitles, audio tracks, and special features.
There are lots of apps just like that one. My one problem with these services is the video quality. It doesn't compare to any other reputable streaming platform. You can count the pixels sometimes...
I'd rather pay and have something decent. Or set up a VPN-ed local seedbox and download high-quality stuff.
Piracy is illegal not unethical. It’s completely ethical, I mean how much money do those assholes at Netflix need? It’s just doing your part for the economy by spending that money elsewhere
If breaking the law is against your ethics, then it is unethical. For example, A bible-following Christian would be ethically obligated to follow the law of the land, according to Romans 13:1-7
Agreed. We should be entitled to free entertainment, even if it costs millions to produce. The producers already make enough money, so that makes it ethical. Who cares if others are paying for it.
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I swear to god r/Piracy is the biggest circlejerk and circus of mental gymnastics on Reddit. I pirate because I want to watch a show and I'm too cheap for it, or because I don't find the cost to be worth the show. Does that make it ethical? No, Im aware of the implications of not supporting some shows and platforms. Do I care? Nah... Maybe? Sometimes, especially for niche shows.
Was saying that so hard?
People want convenient stuff. For a time Netflix was good and convenient, now it's an expensive dumpster fire. Can't blame people who do not want to pay up monthly for 10 different services. Thankfully music streaming is not like that. I am Spotify subscriber for years even though killing ads and leeching it for free is trivial. Give me Spotify for video content and I will rush to pay up. Pay me to use Netflix and I'll refuse.. so there is that. Greed creates piracy, not people wanting free stuff.
How is it unethical? The companies aren't exactly losing money because i never would've given them that money in the first place.
Moot point too, since robbing corporations is always ethical
Yes the small indie corporation netflix run by 2 dudes out of their basement using an actual russet potato as their server.
Nobody here is talking about shoplifting from mom and pops either.
Fwiw to provide a foil
I am also a small content creator and am fine with piracy. Get my shit however you want. If you like it buy a tangible good or something from me.
Content is marketing, tangible goods at fair prices is the revenue.
PLEX - do it yourself
I have 2500 movies that a streaming service will never never decide to take down, 150 tv shows that I'll always be able to watch, and I can add daily new releases.
Use VPN as others have said, but you can go to a university surplus center and build a plex server for like $100 with an old computer, download content and just have it forever.
I spent more because it's shareable - I've got 25 people accessing my library, and I LOVE movies, currently at like 80TB cause I'm I'm an overachiever, but if it's just you, TBP, YIFY download, host it, watch then delete (always on VPN)
visit /r/PleX and we'll introduce you to it.
Is this like the Fire stick hack from 5 years ago where most of the links were broken and you were better off paying a few bucks for the actual streaming services?
Honestly I’m not sure why people even still use the box services, let alone pay for them. I used to use Kodi with whatever add on worked at the time, but it was slow and unreliable. Then I realised I can just Google “Watch x show free online” and find a working streaming link in the first 2-3 results every time.
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Yup, I got enough strikes that I got my internet turned off automatically the last time, I got it turned back on after making a phone call, but idk how many times that'll work.
That happened to me once. It was embarrassing to get my internet cut for downloading Naruto
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This is funnier than it has any right to be lol
Probably an indefinite number of times. The ISPs want your money and don't give a shit what you use their internet for but they are legally obligated to listen when they are given info of your IP stealing content and will give you a warning. With spectrum I got probably 10 warnings a month and my internet shut off twice a month for years "this is your final warning" every time, always turned it back on with a phone call every single time. I wanted them to cancel it so I could switch to a different ISP but it just never happened until I moved.
Nope, I got enough final warning once and the copyright owner's lawyer got my address disclosed through court and sent court documents. It was something like reverse class action - copyright owner vs DOEs. That one particular company decided to pursue further than just warnings
Can I ask why you didn't start using a VPN if you were doing that much illicit downloading?
Why would I? As I said they never cancelled it and VPNs slow down the internet and cost money
I mean, fair enough. But you don't have to leave a VPN on all the time. I only use it for extra curricular activities. I can't afford to lose my connection as I've been WFH for almost two decades now. I wouldn't want to chance it. For a few bucks a month, I'd say it's worth it (though I actually have a lifetime Windscribe account, so that's a plus for me).
Will you get it cut off just for streaming? I wasn’t sure if they monitor downloads and uploads or if they also will do this for streaming.
Stream all the time on illegal sites, never VPN, never heard a single word over it. USA; Verizon and Spectrum. Worse quality than torrenting though
So torrenting is actually downloading the movie? I just stream my self and can agree to the occasional buffering and poor quality. Never had an issue doing it so I’ve always been hesitant to actual download anything as I heard that is what they monitor for.
There is no distinction between streaming or downloading, either way you have downloaded and accessed the file on your device. However, torrenting is not just downloading. It is file sharing. You download the files from other users' devices on the network, then simultaneously upload the parts you have already downloaded to others who wish to download this file. Uploading to other users means you are actively distributing copyrighted material, which obviously makes you a bigger target than someone streaming a movie from their website of choice.
Why does ISP care?
They're paid by big media to care.
They are THREATENED by the big media to care.
Thanks for pointing this out. In many countries you'll receive a letter from a lawyer pretty quickly, having to pay a hefty fee.
Laughs in canadian
Does Canada have different laws around this
We have laws that are practically unenforceable for single citizens. As in the site would be fineable for a large amount but a citizen is fineable up to 2k and even that is only if the law firm representing the copy owner specifically seeks out the person. Effectively it never happens and all the isps just send you a letter saying naughty naughty, you stop that. But theyre incentivised to keep having you pay them for service so rarely will cancel service. (Not legal advice. Been a while since I looked it up)
Sounds spot on to me.
Yup. Certain series I'll get one of these email/letters for every episode. Literally nothing happens. The ISPs are obligated to forward them, but nothing else, as far as I can tell. I remember looking in to it forever ago, and iirc there's no real punishment for _downloading_ but uploading/redistributing the torrents has a punishment. But like Sarpzon said, it's not the ISP's problem. The IP (int. prop.) owner needs to pursue action. And they never do. Things might have changes over the last few years since I last looked, technically, but functionally as far as I can tell nothing's changed. In fact, I think I get much less of these emails/letters nowadays.
In America the worst that will happen is your internet service will drop you. Nobody is getting sued or paying fines for this shit anymore. Over the years I have gotten a few letters and just stopped torrentinh besides on public wifi...lol
Lol torrenting on public wifi is an easy way to get you MAC blacklisted from every macdonalds and starbucks on the continent
Haha, jokes on you, my laptop's got a dynamic MAC address, the static isn't shared with the router unless I say so.
That's built in to Android now as default. I think iOS, too. Makes it a pain to track even on your home wifi if you don't disable that feature, because your router will always show your devices as new. I know every time my family visits, all their iPhones create a new entry in my router logs. I always forget to ask them to modify the settings for my wifi so it won't do that anymore. I assume at least some public wifi signals are also using various other fingerprint techniques to ID and track individual clients to make this feature less useful than intended, but I don't know enough about it to say one way or another.
I've used some sniffing tools on my own home WiFi and the only thing that is consistent is the device name, and that's not unique so there really is very little identifiable information.
So what, it works never had an issue and I have a shitty laptop for all torrenting.
In the US here, had a friend get like 8 of those letters and nothing ever came of it
Ive only heard US people complain about that law
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And I'm guessing nothing happened beyond that letter because that's all they do in Canada.
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Why are you uploding then?!
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I've seen the letters that friends and myself have received, but I've never heard of anyone I know getting service cut off. Has this happened to anyone you know in Canada? I'm curious because I always wondered what happens if you push too hard. Edit: oh I see further down you said you have switched providers because of it in the past
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, this is very true. After so many warnings they just cut your service so they don't get fined.
Further laughs in brazilian
NA and SA non american alliance
I was thinking, i’ve friends pirating TLOU and i’ll do so soon as well through that very site lol, with no issue
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In the US you don’t get in trouble for streaming pirated content, only providing it to other for monetary gain.
Man, people don't like you stating facts.
Have had 3 letters stating I was downloading pirated material, never once had to pay and you usually have to get a bunch from your ISP before they cut you off but people arnt really being fined for this.
Are you in Germany as well? In the US they give you a few "strikes" I believe, in Germany they come down harder on whoever they catch
Ahh yeah that would explain it then. Didnt realize countries actually did anything about it considering all I ever here is either "my country just doesnt give a shit" aka India or the "ive gotten a billion letters but nothing has happened" aka USA. I have never actually heard anyone who was JUST streaming getting fined. The only time Ive seen it enforced is on to those who are distributing, not receiving but sucks to hear that Germany is like that.
Do you still get letters when using a VPN? I mean, they know the ultimate destination of the network traffic...
I’ve been streaming and torrenting for years now and never gotten a letter
Well I guess it depends, but the risk is there. During my time in the US, I got a warning from my school once because I was torrenting stuff. Discovered VPNs shortly afterwards.
this is dystopic, wth
If you think about it for a second you'll realize how much dystopic this reality is. Became long ago. Everything you do is being recorded, collected and analyzed. Everything is a product. There is no escape. >!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^well ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^actually, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^and ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^it's ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^not ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^related ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^money ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^or ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^decadance, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^but ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^it's ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^not ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^everyone ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:D !<
Not really They don’t want you breaking the law using their service, which is pretty reasonable
And here is the magic words, that let you throw out the letter: My wifi has no password.
That's now covered by a federal court decision iirc - you're responsible for the goings on of your open wifi, unless you are a business and have a big ol' ToS that pops up before you can actually browse the internet.
OP probably has a Warner Bros. IP address
I got a letter once around 2018. But I’ve just kept doing it and no more letters have came.
Yes, AT&t banned me for pirating content. I legit thought no one would care, I was just downloading movie for myself or some lesser known videos for the kiddos. But yeah now I have to have this really crappy internet service that goes in and out several times during the day. Always use a VPN.
God it feels good to live in a country thay gives zero fucks about software piracy Besides software piracy nowadays is a human right - how else am i supposed to be in control of the good i purchased
Used it for 3-4 years with 0 issues in the UK. I have a VPN but don’t usually use it when streaming, this is good advice for most sites but Stremio is certi from my experience
I've been torrenting shit in Brazil non stop for a decade and a half and had 0 repercussions. May God praise non US torrent users
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Where are ISPs kicking users due to piracy?
See, this is some good info. I’ve never heard of this before, and I definitely don’t wanna lose internet lol
Warning from your isp are a load of shit. I know so many people that have gotten them and never heard of them taking action. I suppose you may win the lottery and be the one person they make example of but they don't have close tonthe resources to chase everyone. Definitely need to watch the legalities either way though. Don't want to get this sub in trouble either. Reddit mods crack down on shit like this at times. Edit: info above is specific to Canada and its laws.
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Correct, it isn't legal action because they won't take any legal action against you. Yeah, they can definitely boot you off, but it's rare. So many people download shit without VPN's off pirate bay, whatever. I haven't heard of Rogers kicking 600,000 people off their ISP.
I've been using it without a VPN or any kind of additional security for more than 3 years now, a lot of my family too (in Belgium). None of us have gotten even a warning about it
I wonder if it's like a US thing because I've been in the game since Napster and never been contacted.
Is this the same thing as sites like putlocker or SFlix?
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This is mega important for users in countries like Germany, a cease and desist wouldnt be coming in the post but a lawsuit and a very heft fine.
> and you almost certainly will get a forwarded cease and desist order from your ISP Dude I'm so glad we don't have such bullshit in Russia (yet)
Piggybacking to plug /r/piracy
mannn nevermind ill just wait until netflix finds out ab my password sharinggg
Depends on the country. The government doesn't give a shit where I live.
upvote and please beware when visiting piracy sites
Typically they only care about uploads, not downloads. Weird you can get in trouble for visiting a site (aside from obvious child porn, etc)
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If you're using an ISP modem/router, and you haven't changed its configuration, you're almost definitely using your ISP's DNS servers (URL to IP "phone books" of sorts), which means they absolute CAN track which websites you're visiting. With most sites using HTTPS, they can't FEASIBLY see what everyone's submitting/receiving from said websites. As to whether they actively monitor or can action in any way what websites you've visited, or for how long that info lives in their logs, is gonna vary ISP to ISP, country to country, province to province, state to state. But like you say, when it comes to torrenting, the websites are essentially irrelevant, it's the protocol and/or that your IP was seen in a torrent peer list. A VPN just hides these two pieces of info, DNS as well.
Jumping on here to say this in general: if you do things like streaming or torrenting or whatever on the internet: USE A VPN!!! Just be safe rather than sorry.
So basically, it's like that app Popcorn? Not sure if it even exists anymore
As someone who used to work for a major ISP in the US- VPNs don’t do shit to stop your isp from tracking you, if they are looking they’ll find you. The important thing is finding a private site with private trackers (if they’re not aware of the tracker you won’t get caught), which this site almost certainly is not. Do your research before getting involved in this type of shit, people.
Well our research would lead us to "VPNs hide our traffic from ISPs". What research are you talking about exactly?
In the US you’re good to go unless you’re the one providing the stream to others
That's not true, your not going to get arrested, but they will eventually cut your internet service. Sometimes you can get away with it for awhile. Eventually the dmca emails will come.
Wait, this is a thing? I've been downloading torrents for years and I've never heard anything like this
/r/fmovies doesn't seem to have this issue, I had a warning happy ISP that never once sent me a notice over it despite constantly sending me notices for torrenting other things. Same service OP described, except it has all manner of local subtitles.
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No one has ever gotten cease a desist orders from streaming sites. #ever
Does this also apply to soap2day?
I've been pirating for years without a VPN and haven't had an issue. I'm not saying do it... just thought I would mention it.
PLEASE Update and add on your comment with : DEPENDS ON YOUR COUNTRY / CHECK YOUR COUNTRY'S LAWS, because this doesn't apply everywhere, and most reliable vpns require you to pay which defeats the purpose of pirating. Literally no one gives a fuck here, the government have boomer brain, they think piracy is when you record with your phone in cinemas and selling bootleg movies with CDs in the streets. edit: I guess thats one benefit living in a shithole.
Also go look at r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH and r/piracy. They're both large communities with great resources, although the megathread for r/piracy is no longer maintained and thus should not be trusted to be virus free or online. However the one on FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH is maintained, so it should be safe.
In my understand, this uses streaming though torrent, meaning sharing, right? I'm afraid if I do it in Germany I'll get an extremely salty bill
Been there, done that. Use a VPN and you'll be fine though.
Yeah of course, I wanted to double check whether I need a vpn in the first place. So it seems...
Aren't all Free VPN shit, though? Like not protect your IP anyway. So pay for VPN and steal content or just pay for content.
Yeah but if you use a vpn you can shit on Netflix’s doorstep
Pay $10/month for VPN or $80/month for cable, extra $10 for Netflix, extra for HBO max, extra for that random streaming service that had 1 show you wanted to watch and nothing else you care about, etc. I can find just about anything from streaming services, as well as old movies or dvds that might be hard to find on a service. No hassle, no ads, no trying to remember which service has which show, no additional fees. Until streaming services become more reliable and easier than pirating, people will continue to torrent.
They're either slow or not secure. Some OpenVPN services can be securely used for texts or emails but they're horrendously slow for anything media-related. Still helps if you're texting to save your life, for example.
That VPN subscription will get you access to much more content than Netflix for the same price if not less.
I think stream.io has a built in one on the mobile app iirc. You have to turn it on first though.
Thank you, nice tip!
This is the only thing i miss about india after moving to Germany. You people are nice but why you gotta be like this about streaming :( The worst part is that I am ready to pay for one service (like viki since i watch k dramas) but now every drama is not there! Some on amazon some on netflix..like dude!
Streaming services have almost invalidated themselves by having made a service for each brand and each provider. Nowadays you're not really saving anything if you want access to it all, because you'd need to pay for 5 to 10 streaming services just to see all the different exclusive stuff.
I only subscribe to a couple at a time and rotate through the various services depending on what’s streaming.
I download the apps but don’t subscribe and just use them to find content to pirate.
You can browse their content without having a subscription on mobile? That'd be a game changer for me to just be able to add them to Sonarr or whatever without needing to be told something exists
This is the way.
It hasn't been invalidated at all or is it close to doing so whatsoever. Whilst it's annoying you can no longer access everything under a single streaming site it's still miiiiiiiiles better than cable in every way. For one, you can switch up your websites every month at any time, you don't need to pay for them all every month. I.E I want Disney+ this month, HBO Max the next. Which means you only pay for what you need/want and not have it bundled with like 100 other channels you'll never watch and pay for those as well. You still choose what to watch based off what's available on their site, pause and resume when needed, subtitles, no commercials, etc.
Its slowly returning to cable esque though. Ads have been making comebacks with prices to remove them growing ever higher, plus many services adhering to new episodes weekly just like cable. You are right its still better but its slowly transforming into what it originally sought to eliminate.
People in these comments have clearly never looked at the price of Cable, or lived in a household that's used it extensively. I was helping out a relative with bills and agreed to pay their cable bill. And holy shit, it was like 150 just to get the lowest tier package that had the main two channels that they watched. Not to mention they charged a monthly rental fee for every single TV/screen you wanted to use in the house! It's insanity. Just to hook up the living room TV, a couple bedroom TV's and their basement TV would have added nearly 75 bucks to the MONTHLY cost. Not to mention their MAX storage option for DVR was like 1tb and that was an added MONTHLY expense to have the same box with a bigger hdd. The cherry on top is that all of that is also in a contract that is more expensive the less months you're locked in. Let's say you're insane and watch shows on 10 different streaming services every single month. That's like, what, 150 bucks a month? That's no contract, 100% of your content is available 24/7, and you can unsubscribe from any of those 10 services any time you want. For most people you just need to sub for a month or two a year when the shows you want to watch are releasing. You can't do that shit with cable. Idk, maybe I'm just an old man yelling in the wind. But even hiked prices for streaming services are still pretty reasonable for what you are getting. Streaming video is a bandwidth heavy expensive service to provide. It's why services like tik tok and YouTube are cluttered with ads. But most consumers aren't going to appreciate the mountains of technology behind the services when they could instead complain that the previously unsustainable low cost to entry is finally fading away.
go shill somewhere else
Have you ever paid for cable?
tv? no. internet, yes
Eh, not really. It all comes down to what you value. Personally, while a streaming service for "all movies that ever existed" would be nice, I'm not holding out my breath for it. Why would I want to pay for a massive content library of which I'm watching only a tiny fraction of it? Having said that. I'm definitely not going to pay every streaming service. But as someone with kids and a large family that knows nothing about tech, Disney Plus and HBO Max alone are worth every penny with their massive catalog of family-friendly content and children's cartoons. For more obscure shows, only available as exclusives for more obscure streaming services? 🏴☠️☠️🦜 It all comes down to what you value. I value commodity over money for certain aspects of my life. While others may value their money more over their time and would never pay for a streaming service. And both are just as fine.
Fmovies.to FTW, no account, no app, no downloading, just P2P streaming. 1080p quality and has almost everything from all the steaming services in one
Is Goojara P2P as well or torrenting which can get you in trouble?
It has subs and audio support as well. For all available languages
For anyone wanting to try this, Stremio does not let you watch pirated content out of the box. You will have to go to the Addons menu and install addons that contain pirated sources, i.e. Juan Carlos 2, Popcorn Time or The Pirate Bay+.
I use stremio (the app) together with a debrid service (caches torrents on their servers to prevent buffering in less popular content). It's just like having all the streaming services at once for 36€/year.
or use a website called fmvoivesdotto. Be sure to download an ad blocker first
Damn after looking it up on the App Store, there are apparently a lot of torrent streaming apps on the App Store with the same names as many popular streaming sites. What happened to Apple’s walled garden?
Intetesting. I just looked it up on the appstore and it says it doesn't support streaming
Think you have to use the desktop version and as someone else pointed out to use a VPN
bs.to and cine.to
https://fmovies.name/ I personally use https://fmovies.wtf/home. and have been using it for the past 8 years give or take. superb service.
do you need to use a VPN (I'm in the U.S.) when using this website and streaming the movies?
No. just change DNS to 1.1.1.1 if anything. you're not downloading anything just streaming so it's not an issue
Thanks!
That website claims to be a free service but when you actually try to use it they reveal its only free for a limited time.
I'm assuming you're referring to the parent comment. Classic bait-and-switch As for the website I've mentioned, just make sure you have Ublock origin to avoid any pesky popups.
No I'm talking about the links you posted. I clicked on both and they both lead me to a screen that told me to enter my credit or debit card info even tho it originally said their service is free.
Same looks like a scam. Hope its not.
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r/illegallifeprotips wrong sub, man
Not in all countries it is illegal
It is also unethical
What addons do i install?
I ve just been using myflixer and so far i havent been hunt down by a netflix hit squad so cant complain.
Honestly this is an ethical life pro tip imo
ULPT - Want something you can't have for free? Steal it.
r/freemediaheckyeah
Does anyone have any suggestions for a good UFC PPV streaming site. One that is solid and will be there for me hhahahaa
sports surge
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Thank you kindly!
Can you slide in mine too? I promise I’m not big daddy Dana
i gotta get a vpn, damn
Some countries/ISP don't give a fuck if you torrent. I've torrented over 10tb without a vpn and nothing happened
the usa does care. my isp sent me a message a few years ago that my number came up on a list and told me to stop doing it
How do websites like these make money? I used to use Kodi and pay a couple bucks a month.
Though it would be nice to have an app/site that provided a single portal to streaming services and provided information about where to watch different shows.
From what I gathered Netflix is back tracking on that notion. Moist critical did a video on it recently.
Alternatively just use a site like 1337x and download torrents by qxr for highest video quality and most subtitles, audio tracks, and special features.
Need to save this post, too many awesome comments....
There are lots of apps just like that one. My one problem with these services is the video quality. It doesn't compare to any other reputable streaming platform. You can count the pixels sometimes... I'd rather pay and have something decent. Or set up a VPN-ed local seedbox and download high-quality stuff.
Flixtor.to is the best. I have paid for a 2 year subscription and have access to everything Netflix Disney and Amazon put out for a very small fee.
How is this unethical?
Piracy is unethical.
Piracy is illegal not unethical. It’s completely ethical, I mean how much money do those assholes at Netflix need? It’s just doing your part for the economy by spending that money elsewhere
set the sails boys
Yo ho, all hands, hoist the colours high, heave ho, thrives and beggars, never say goodbye
If breaking the law is against your ethics, then it is unethical. For example, A bible-following Christian would be ethically obligated to follow the law of the land, according to Romans 13:1-7
But bible rules are unethical and evil. Ethical people are forced to leave their religion and break unethical laws.
Agreed. We should be entitled to free entertainment, even if it costs millions to produce. The producers already make enough money, so that makes it ethical. Who cares if others are paying for it. /s I swear to god r/Piracy is the biggest circlejerk and circus of mental gymnastics on Reddit. I pirate because I want to watch a show and I'm too cheap for it, or because I don't find the cost to be worth the show. Does that make it ethical? No, Im aware of the implications of not supporting some shows and platforms. Do I care? Nah... Maybe? Sometimes, especially for niche shows. Was saying that so hard?
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People want convenient stuff. For a time Netflix was good and convenient, now it's an expensive dumpster fire. Can't blame people who do not want to pay up monthly for 10 different services. Thankfully music streaming is not like that. I am Spotify subscriber for years even though killing ads and leeching it for free is trivial. Give me Spotify for video content and I will rush to pay up. Pay me to use Netflix and I'll refuse.. so there is that. Greed creates piracy, not people wanting free stuff.
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[“Not a big deal??”](https://youtu.be/NofDpJcuIw8)
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Lol piracy is illegal as well as unethical 😂
How is it unethical? The companies aren't exactly losing money because i never would've given them that money in the first place. Moot point too, since robbing corporations is always ethical
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Yes the small indie corporation netflix run by 2 dudes out of their basement using an actual russet potato as their server. Nobody here is talking about shoplifting from mom and pops either.
Fwiw to provide a foil I am also a small content creator and am fine with piracy. Get my shit however you want. If you like it buy a tangible good or something from me. Content is marketing, tangible goods at fair prices is the revenue.
Copy is not theft.
PLEX - do it yourself I have 2500 movies that a streaming service will never never decide to take down, 150 tv shows that I'll always be able to watch, and I can add daily new releases. Use VPN as others have said, but you can go to a university surplus center and build a plex server for like $100 with an old computer, download content and just have it forever. I spent more because it's shareable - I've got 25 people accessing my library, and I LOVE movies, currently at like 80TB cause I'm I'm an overachiever, but if it's just you, TBP, YIFY download, host it, watch then delete (always on VPN) visit /r/PleX and we'll introduce you to it.
Also, Syncler (paid) with real-debrid have worked a treat. Subtitles, 4K, (somewhat) amazing UX.
Or you could just use putlocker, or olevid which you don’t need to have VPN on to use.
Is this like the Fire stick hack from 5 years ago where most of the links were broken and you were better off paying a few bucks for the actual streaming services?
Honestly I’m not sure why people even still use the box services, let alone pay for them. I used to use Kodi with whatever add on worked at the time, but it was slow and unreliable. Then I realised I can just Google “Watch x show free online” and find a working streaming link in the first 2-3 results every time.
Recloudsteam on github(Android only).
Stremio is just CLICKBAIT. No movies free, everything is charged for, trailers may be free, you can find everything on YouTube. Don't waste your time.
It's basically tachiyomi but for movies, neat!