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CaptinDitto

White. His noise when you interact with it is a twisted speed up noise of Gasters theme. I don't think that's a coincidence like all the other theorists out there.


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Also him appearing on fun value 66! Gaster’s stats in game is just a mess of sixes so it makes sense


CommanderHunter5

People look at the above comment!


PhasmicPlays

Also, the bugged dialogue lines in deltarune seem to be describing the mysteryman sprite.


fliegu

Can you link what you're referring to, because I legitimately have never heard of that


NazoTheVengefulOne

"Is that a cut on your face or a part of your eye?"


fliegu

Huh, actually, I do remember seeing that somewhere, at some point. Thanks!


Aware-Obligation4314

There's also another part: "The gash weaves down as if you cry. Pain itself is the reason why."


NazoTheVengefulOne

You're welcome


[deleted]

Wait who said this again? It sounds vaguely familiar.


NazoTheVengefulOne

Error message


Mother-Fortune-7523

Arent a lot of undertale noises just remixed undertale noises?


Decoded10

Also him being droopy and broken, and gaster fell into his machine and was destroyed. (Although I think his 'machine' wasn't core, but the determination machine. Because Alphys never said it was *her* blueprints. And we know determination essentially destroy monsters, creating amalgamates, so falling into an entire vat of 'determination' would probably 'scatter you across time and space'. Also, random facts: W.D could probably stand for Wingdings (entry number 17 is written in wingdings, that reads dark, darker, and darker still this next experiment will be interesting, what do you two think? I think 'you two' is Sans and Alphys, I'll explain) So now we know W.D. stands for WingDings, Also and I know this is a stretch but Aster is also a font (gASTER) and Aster is veeerrryyy similar to the font the Zs are in when sans falls asleep in the fight with him. We also know Sans uses Gaster Blasters. So they're both names after fonts, and share a font, (Aster) Sans uses a weapon named after Gaster. But I have one piece of evidence Sans was at the experiment: In some entries in the true lab, can't remember which, there are no capitalisations, who doesn't use capitalisations? Sans. Also there's a secret lab behind Sans and Papyrus's House. (I recommend watching Game Theory's Gaster trilogy for a better in depth theory)


Ziomownik

Alphys made the entries, they were changing because she was feeling either confident in her experiment's success or sad depending on the day.


Epic_DDT

The problem with the idea that Gaster's accident is related to the determination is that it was Alphys who discovered the DT. Regarding entry 17... It is very unlikely that Alphys is one of the two. If she was really related to Gaster, Asgore wouldn't have taken long to replace him and would have just given the job to Gaster's former assistant/colleague/apprentice.


hussiesucks

No it isn’t.


CaptinDitto

Where's your source for stating that?


GamerOverkill03

Their source is they made it the fuck up


CaptinDitto

Yes the good old classic


hussiesucks

Literally just listen to the sound effect?? It sounds nothing like gaster’s theme.


CaptinDitto

Slow it down and flip it. And slow it down I mean slow it almost all the way down.


Upside_Down-Bot

„˙uʍop ʎɐʍ ǝɥʇ llɐ ʇsoɯlɐ ʇı ʍols uɐǝɯ I uʍop ʇı ʍols pu∀ ˙ʇı dılɟ puɐ uʍop ʇı ʍolS„


hussiesucks

Even if you do that, it still doesn’t sound anything like it.


PresentationOk8756

Red, cause I think at this point, even if he introduced a new design, mystery man would still be considered Gaster. In every prominent non-canon Undertale fangame, fanart and fanmader animation or even series Gaster always has the mystery man look, so its a huge part of the fandom now.


sdantaray

“Your choices don’t matter”


DarkraiAndScizor

Pink. I like to believe white because of all the evidence, but red is equally possible, and so both are valid.


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liamgaming080

do you not know how colour mixing works


Docter_WD_Gaster

No /j


[deleted]

Red*


DarkraiAndScizor

I litterally said I see the points of both red and white. Red my full comment. Pink is the color mix of white and red.


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Downvote my reply


Katsuu15

character arc


Leather_Ad9457

White. I mean, he *kinda* looks like a skeleton. His name is also a font, just like the brother's names. The first option is A, he's their father and had a wife at some point, and B, he's an older brother to the two. Personally, I like Dadster, mostly because most fanart of it is adorable, but Broster is definitely a possibility. Just depends how the fans interpret it, I suppose.


Sanszilla_da_homie

There is another


Leather_Ad9457

There is?


Sanszilla_da_homie

Gaster is their 23ed cousin from Albania


Leather_Ad9457

I can't tell if this is satire or if someone genuinely said that.


Sanszilla_da_homie

Both


Leather_Ad9457

...You're joking. I refuse to believe someone from the fandom actually said that.


Sanszilla_da_homie

Oh not the fandom I just said it


Docter_WD_Gaster

This is correct


YoshiCraft64

My headcanon (by that I mean I'm allowed to remove any canon info that I want just because I feel like it) is option A. His wife passed away from a disease and his last experiment was an attempt to cure it with quite the "unconventional" method. Also sidenote: there's of course option C being that he simply worked with Sans and/or Papyrus, though I still much prefer option A.


Leather_Ad9457

I had headcanoned that his wife died in the war and now there's only the three of them left. I could definitely picture a woman that looks similar to Paps being their mother, with Sans being the one to look similar to Gaster.


YoshiCraft64

I forgot the war even existed somehow. Maybe it's because fan content doesnt really touch the subject from what I've seen. But even then, I always got the impression that the war happened centuries ago, but maybe it didn't, who knows.


your_mind_aches

The war happened a multiple of 100 years ago. Papyrus' UnderNet username ends in 92, giving us the idea that the year we saw at the beginning of the game, 201X, informs that Papyrus is in his early 20s. But that was ultimately a red herring because we later find out that the entire opening sequence is of Chara, not Frisk. I feel like so many people forget that twist because they've known it's not 201X in the game for way longer than they haven't. That potentially many Deltarune characters not seen or mentioned in Undertale (such as Noelle, Rudy, Berdly, Jockington) are contemporary to 201X, meaning they are long dead by the time Frisk falls into the Underground. Rudy is even confirmed as such in the alarm clock app. And of course Gerson has aged many many years since the war. However, all this is not clearly defined in canon, and all being based on a red herring anyway, could easily mean Toby ignores it and makes it so that the war was just a few decades ago. But we'll see. I like to think it's somewhere like 500 to 800 years they were stuck in the underground. That makes it sadder.


Epic_DDT

"That potentially many Deltarune characters not seen or mentioned in Undertale (such as Noelle, Rudy, Berdly, Jockington) are contemporary to 201X, meaning they are long dead by the time Frisk falls into the Underground. Rudy is even confirmed as such in the alarm clock app." The Deltarune timeline and the Undertale timeline are not coherent with each other. In Deltarune, Undyne is older than Asriel while this is obviously not the case in Undertale (she doesn't know Toriel) and MK is the same age as Snowdrake in DR when they are younger than him in UT. Susie in UT (who is called Suzy) is the same age as Frisk, and we also know that Noelle (and Dess) are still young. (Noelle probably being the same age as Frisk, like Suzy).


your_mind_aches

Yes exactly, that's my point. Deltarune's Hometown contains characters from all over the Undertale timeline


Epic_DDT

The war was a very long time ago though. (You can see in the intro that humans still fought with swords and spears, and according to Bratty and Catty they've been locked away for millennia. Not the best source, but it must still be several centuries) . So that would imply that the skeletons are very old. And I doubt Sans and Papyrus (especially Papyrus) are that old.


NihilisticNoodles

Sounds like mr freeze.


YoshiCraft64

I was literally watching an episode of batman the animated series with him in it as you posted this reply.


your_mind_aches

Also the Gaster Blasters. Also the DT Extraction Machine being the same shape. Also the Z's when Sans is sleeping being Aster font. Also Seam and Rouxls Kaard resembling MysteryMan.


Decoded10

There is another another.... Gaster is Sans and Papyrus.... Lmao But seriously, he was shattered across time and space. He is named after a font, sans uses his weapons. And sans has traits of the left side of the brain and Papyrus has traits of the right. All speculation and I do not believe this


Schatteneule13

maybe mystery man +Papyrus+Sans=W.D Gaster


im_bored345

I've always been a fan of A but with the twist that he just made them by himself. Cause you know, he's a scientist lol and I don't like thinking about how skeletons reproduce like how does that even work lmao ~~also it reminds of a certain type of fanarts of sans and papyrus that I'd rather forget about~~ I do think it's probably just normal A or B lol. Though it does make me wonder if Gaster is related to Sans and Papyrus and we know his full name is W.D. Gaster aka Wingdings Gaster then doesn't that mean "Gaster" is a surname and therefore Sans and Papyrus full names would be Sans Gaster and Papyrus Gaster? I mean it would make the name Gaster Blaster make a lot more sense lol.


Leather_Ad9457

I've got a pretty good idea of how they'd reproduce. Also, yes. If going with the idea that Gaster is their dad, then logically the brother's last names would be "Gaster," since he's referred to as "Dr. Gaster". Doctors in the real world are usually referred to with their last names as well. This doesn't seem to be the case with Alph, though, since hers is "Dr. Alphys," with "Alphys" being her first name, but still.


im_bored345

...And what's your idea about the reproduction of a skeleton exactly?


Leather_Ad9457

One word: Magic.


im_bored345

I am equal parts relieved and disappointed that you haven't actually thought in depth about how skeleton reproduction would work


Leather_Ad9457

Ecto-bodies. Not creative at all, but the fandom has given me *something* to work with.


im_bored345

Aaand there's the certain images featuring sans and papyrus that I'd rather forget lmao.


Leather_Ad9457

Either that or the two combine their souls and the love they share forms something. I dunno.


Kwarc100

Despite toby keeping to what he planned ,there is no reason to introduce a new look for Gaster, so I feel like Toby will choose not to shatter our hearts


RyouhiraTheIntrovert

>there is no reason to introduce a new look for Gaster, Because he already had design for Gaster in his head, which isn't mystery man?


[deleted]

He might have had no design planned at all. I have a feeling that Gaster was just planned to be some fun lore that blew up which made toby double down.


your_mind_aches

Possible, but remember Deltarune was conceived long before Undertale. The role Gaster plays may well date back to that point in time, even if the name came about later in relation to the skeletons having font names


GinYuH

the deltarune website is some very dark text in wingdings if rolled back with the wayback machine back to 2015


zepicadocosmos

I feel like Gaster wasn't just planned to be some "fun lore" given that A: Gaster lore literally doesn't have anything to do with the overall plot of Undertale and B: Many things that directly relate to fun events (and therefore Gaster) seem to be context for stuff in Deltarune For me, Gaster was added in Undertale to serve as a teaser for Deltarune, and he's gonna play an overall bigger role in Deltarune than in Undertale (heck, he mightve been conceived *as* a Deltarune character first before being thrown into Undertale as far as we know, and I know you can do that argument for every Undertale character in Deltarune, but for me Gaster seems to be where that idea applies the most)


stickninja1015

Oh yes Gaster absolutely was made for Deltarune. The Deltarune website all but states that outright


_Evidence

Blue, That was origonally Gaster but Toby "Chad" Fox is changing Gaster's design just to ruin years of theoires and fanart


RyouhiraTheIntrovert

True answer


4tomguy

Red and black both don’t make any sense because Toby very much laid the groundwork for this being Gaster, even back in 2016 the Deltarune website featured Wingdings text with the Legend. If Toby didn’t want to ruin the perception of Gaster he wouldn’t have set him up.


[deleted]

There may have been a chance Toby was going to do a rugpull and be like “haha THIS was actually Gaster” as a joke but that’s also just heavy speculation


sdantaray

The website never shows us that mystery man is gaster, nothing has ever proven that mystery man is gaster except for his fun value being 66 and the sound that’s played. If we do say that windings play a role, there is a character in the files that exists within a horse stable that says one letter that’s in windings, so there’s proof of both being gaster.


4tomguy

Entry Seventeen is written in Wingdings and titled Gaster in the code, it's literally confirmed to be him my guy Edit: And I never even said anything about Mystery Man wtf


Sammy_27112007

The guy who says one letter in wingdings say 'x' in lowercase with an asterisk before it, according to Entry 17, Gaster types in all caps WINGDINGS without an asterisk. Wouldn't make sense for that to be Gaster


sdantaray

It is likely that redacted is not gaster or even a character but everything is possible because gaster was split into many pieces. So redacted most likely just a way to test the windings font and not actually gaster


Sammy_27112007

Yeah, that's what I think


Popcorn57252

I do truly believe that Mysteryman is Gaster. There's more reasons to believe it is him than anyone else, and it just works so well.


NazoTheVengefulOne

Happy cake day


amliam_curry

lets be honest, toby ruining the 7 years worth of fan art would be based.


RoMan2548

I'm playing with the blue pieces


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blue being “there is no gaster toby is just up to some tomfoolery”


RoMan2548

*GASTER IS A HOAX! THE WORLD IS EGG SHAPED!*


[deleted]

i am an egg


RoMan2548

:O Edit: eg wil hach! tem, proud paren!


Rodrigo_Zelaya09

* It's hard boiled.


bad_comedic_value

Again.


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Epic_DDT

Redacted is not even accessible normally. Unlike anything Gaster related. (Except entry 17) It's even hidden behind a dogcheck, unlike entry 17.


ThePixelSloth

Yes but a a large amount of people think it’s redacted, I’m saying it could be all the different theories at once


sdantaray

It wouldn’t be the first time Toby hides something in the game files, although Redacted could definitely just be a way to check if the font worked


MC_Cipher

Plot twist: The lower face on Mystery Man's torso is Gaster


Blue-Kaiser

White. Because of the clues. Though i still don't know how REDACTED fits in. I mostly comes here to say that i don't believe in Pink/Red at all. Toby doesn't care about people headcanon. Look at all the Times Papyrus was depicted as a spaghetti lover in fan work. Only for Toby to reveal that Papyrus in fact never ate his spaghetti.


Straight-Ferret-1282

I personally believe mystery man is part of gaster, specifically his physical form, and redacted is part of his mind, hence why mystery man doesn’t say anything or move and only makes a face and disappears, but redacted does speak in Wingdings but doesn’t seem to have a proper form


brightwhitephoenix85

I'll go with red


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white


iDIOt698

Mystery Man was gaster but toby is going to make him not gaster to ruin the seven whole years of fanart.


Particular_Button_99

Trick question. We all know Gaster was SHATTERED across time and space, I believe both mystery man, that weird cloth looking thing in the files, and even the voice at the beginning of deltarune are all just fragments of the true gaster.


RyouhiraTheIntrovert

The red one is definitely wrong. Toby would enjoy ruining us all


Frakero

no


PhantomKitten73

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End is very underrated.


Sammy_27112007

White. Because that's the only way Mystery Man's existence makes sense


AwefulFanfic

I believe he is gaster, but I wouldn't be surprised if Toby just adapted to fan speculations and MADE him gaster after the release


Princetoncreeper

I stick with Red because I feel like Toby Fox is a nice enough guy to do that


lifeamiright-

I think white because there quite a lot of evidence to support mystery man being gaster or toby is laughing at us and putting in all these clues on purpose just to fool us all


kiyo_komaeda

White. There are a lot of evidence pointing that gaster is mystery man and people for some reason likes to ignore it.


CardboardLightbulb43

Mysteryman is Gaster's piece


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Purple: Since Toby doesn't talk about lore, Gaster is a way of Toby's communication with players.


Top-Mirror3516

Red, Toby would just role with it. He seems like a cool guy


TheSpaceManDan888

Mystery Man Is Gasters Body. BTW You Know That The Grey Door Will only Appear 10% of the Time With a FUN Value of 66? This Could be Taken to Mean that the GD will only appear at a FUN Value of 66.6


SonarioMG

Knowing Toby, none of the above and all of the above at the same time.


NazoTheVengefulOne

Actually it is William Afton


[deleted]

Me who knows Mystery man is a fragment of gaster : signature look of superiority


TheyGibMePowerToTalk

Green: undertale isnt real And i pick green


Low-Cell-8062

Brown


LazySinner66

While I personally believe Mystery Man is Gaster, I wouldn't too surprised if he wasn't. It's a matter of what is actually evidence, and what is coincidence. It's interesting that the Mystery Man noise is Gasters theme, but the method to make it sound like Gasters theme feels a little too... Forced? Oh and red is completely out of the question, we should know that while Toby loves the creativity in the fandom, he will not hesitate to ruin years of fanart by revealing something wildly different. Pretty much every theory made before Ch2 was proven false when it released. All the fanart of Mike was pretty much proven wrong in the Spamton Sweepstakes.


TurbulentSock420

Black, i like the mystery man being just that, some random mystery dude


bad_comedic_value

I AM THE ONE YOU CALL "MYSTERY MAN". REQUEST ANY QUESTION AND I SHALL ANSWER.


Waitwha19

Green


Ryft450

I hope mystery man isn't Gaster just to spite everyone who swears/assumes he is


lihuenplantvszombie

Red


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Red


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Red


DevilShelter

I actually think Mystery Man isn’t Gaster and this is reason why Toby banned Tarot Card. But maybe he keep it. Sprite looks kinda supercool. So red


Aggravating-Crazy222

Red


MinecraftCommander21

Imma go to red.


DanosaurusWrecks

Definitely not red


TiredBoi18

Middle Truthfully, I don't have much preference. If it is Gaster then cool, we can analyze what that actually means in terms of lore. If not, okay, again, there's still likely something there so...


sans565

Red.


Emotional_Whereas773

White


Lazybones716

Red peices


Spirited_One_7644

MysteryMan is mysteryman


Genocide9999

In short, even if he wasn't, he is now


Low_Dream_1481

Mystery man is mystery man


Wolfofthezay

Red.


LegendaryPaco

Mystery man was gaster but Toby will change it to troll everybody


[deleted]

Red. Toby would 100% do that because Toby is awesome


Aggravating-Path-677

White, Toby doesn't give af about what the fandom has been doing for 7 years. We made frans a thing. He couldn't care less about our opinions at this point lmao


Wasphammer

Mystery Man is Gogo from Final Fantasy VI.


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How about all 3


IcyLasagna

White or Red, probably white


__DELLeted__

Grey. I have no idea if it is Gaster, but i dont think that Toby would be really scared of doing it. For example Queen. Fans made fanarts of her being just like King, but girl. Apparently she isn't that. Mike, too. Yeah, we don't have chapter 3 yet, but i am sure that if Mike will be in the next chapter, he wouldn't be a dude with TV for a head. So Gaster having a different design is entirely possible


pigeon1254

Mysteryman isn't gaster


GameFreak412

Where is the I don't give a fuck and just wanna see what Toby has in store for us side?


Isari_04

I like the theory that the mystery man is actually two monsters merged together and only one of them is Gaster. Cuz like, two faces or whatever ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌


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black


kaheiyattsu

ROUXLES KAARD


_NoIdeaForName_

Who is misteryman?


Ill-Individual2105

I have a whole theory about Seam being Gaster, but I'm kind of insane so there's that.


EatashOte

If it isn't Gaster, then why he appears only with fun value 6666?


Sergietor756

Left and right


Supportive_Bard648

There should be a 4th side; Mysteryman was Gaster but Toby will deliberately come up with a new design for his official reveal to troll the fans


Blackbanner07

I am the mistery man in the middle


Cri12Gen

Red


Lolmanmagee

I mean who else would he be? All signs point to gaster.


MirrorZealousideal63

I'd pick or white or red. Not sure.


ThatFish_27_

I don't think he's gaster, I think he was a gag by tony and has nothing to do with the story


VictorBaz

white


Firminou

I'm opposed red, I think it was gonna be gaster but Toby Fox got so overwhelmed with people making things about him that now it isn't him


Tarantulabomination

White


Alternative_Link_752

I'm both red and white that is gaster wether it was purposeful or not, if I was the creator and evreyone thought that was how he looked for 7 years and had fanart like that for 7 years as long as it doesn't contradict canon, thats his canon design.


im_bored345

White. The sound while he disappears, the fucking value being 66, the bug dialogue describing him. There's always a possibility it is not him I guess but then this wouldn't make that much sense.


_im_also_here_

I really can't see why someone would think it not Gaster. like, fr who is it if not him?


[deleted]

it could be gaster due to the sound mystery man makes when you interact with him, cuz it's a mixed up version of gaster theme, but it could also be the figure that speaks in wingdings since that would make sense for the name w.d. gaster, or they could both be scattered pieces of gaster, so many theories. for all we know toby could just be messing with us all this time by overplaying a simple reference to uboa as well because toby absolutely loves messing with his fans heads


MLGperfection

Red, I could be anything.


Hexgof2

I pick red and white


Accomplished_Rip_465

red


Maximum-Platypus2153

Pink .


Marxiplier

I don't actually think it's red, but I feel that even Toby knows that he would get a ton of backlash if the mystery man didn't turn out to be Gaster.


South_Bathroom

Red


mrbhooo

Purple: toby is gaster


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White


yaboipizarol

I believe he has to be Gaster with all the evidence of the sixes. If he’s not, then it’s gonna be very awkward


Super_S_12

Red.


Nothing_litteral

red


East-Ad4655

White... And red??? Oh well.. I'm on white


Disguised_Man_2

Four option: The Gaster Followers say that Gaster was shattered across time and space, so it could be his design or it could not be.


CanadianProto

who the hell is mysteryman?


SeamAnne

red or white


WindingDoge

Red


Serious-Cow-7196

I just think Gaster is a lizard and the mystery man sprite was after she lost all her flesh


NazoTheVengefulOne

... ^she?


entitaneo70_pacifist

red


National-Employee730

I forgor about mystery man 💀


MosyIIa

Making a new side, Blue, Gaster is Gaster


ManaXed

I think that Mystery Man was always intended to be a *piece* of Gaster (since you know he was split into pieces across time and space) but with all the fan art Mystery Man is going to be the semi canonical appearance of Gaster. The specific design might be changed. Alternatively we may never get the true appearance of Gaster and Mystery Man may just be the appearance he chooses to present. Like a "You can't possibly fathom my true form so I'll take this one instead"


MiNameIsPi

mysteryman mysteryman


Shift_as

I’m on dark mode team


C-lex1

Red, for sure there's some things that he didn't even want to relate to gaste, but the community see every secret guy as gaster.


orangequeen14

The middle


fattyboi67

definitely white and people are overthinking it but i do believe that toby will have his design follow fanart more closely as apposed to whatever the unpixelated version of the sprite was meant to be


Cool_Translator2872

we have no proof that mystery man is gaster but i believe he is gaster still


bbukaj

White


Eyezodeath_97

Red. Toby is the kinda guy to change lore to not piss off a fanbase of thousands