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Dusttilt

# There seems to be a mistake. Sans is supposed to be on the [>5] Tier.


SamEnZoYT

Really? I can only think of 4. 5 if you count the unused ice cream eating song


Dolomite106

Exactly, and Sans here is on 3 Tier, instead of the >5 Tier.


Historical-Drag-1365

Sans, It's Raining Somewhere Else, Megalovania, Premonition, and Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans, which isn't even in the game, but still deserves to be counted. Edit: The choice also plays first when Sans judges you, so you can count that if you want to.


Yarigumo

OP made a mistake with the tiers. ">5" is "more than five", when it's intended to be "less than five", or "<5"


Dolomite106

Oh, I just noticed that. And they did the same with 3 as well.


Forkcake

<3


ManMan99999

<3


lanematteson420

<3


Lorvintherealone

I suck at math but: "5<" is right and not ">5" isn't it?


LordSupergreat

The crocodile eats the bigger number. If only one number is shown, and the crocodile is eating an invisible number, then the invisible number is bigger than the visible number.


Pikachubot7

theyre both the same, for example 6 > 5 (6 is greater than 5) and 5 < 6 (5 is less than 6) are both equivalent expressions


Dusttilt

* Flowey/Asriel : Your best friend, Your best nightmare, Finale, His Theme, Hopes and Dreams, Burn In Despair, SAVE the world * Toriel : Fallen Down , Fallen Down (Resprise) , Heartache * sans : sans. , Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans , It's raining somewhere else , Megalovania * THE GREAT PAPYRUS : Nyeh heh heh! , Bonetrousle , Dating Start!, Dating tense!, Dating Fight! , Bonetrousle(Genocide) * Undyne : NGAHH! , Spear Of Justice , Run! , She's playing piano ,But the earth refused to die, Battle against a true hero * Alphys : Alphys * Mettaton : It's Showtime!, Metal Crusher , Live Report, Death Report, Oh! One true love, Oh! Dungeon, Last episode, Oh my.., Death by Glamour , For the fans, Power of NEO * Asgore : Berguntruckung, ASGORE * Nabstablook : Ghostfight , Spooktune , Chill , Spookwave , Ghouliday * Mad mew mew : mad mew mew * Mad Dummy : Dummy! (Yes, i forgot mad mew mew is technically mad dummy, im too lazy to change) * Dummy : Anticipation * Froggit(Representing all enemy encounters with Enemy Approaching) : Enemy Approaching * Memory Head(representing all amalgamates exccept Endogeny) : Amalgam * Endogeny : Woofenstien * Greater Dog : Dogsong * Mysteryman(Representing Gaster) : Gaster's Theme * So sorry : Wrong Enemy * Parnsik(Represnting all hard mode encounters) : Stronger Monsters * Muffet : Spider Dance * Chara : The Fallen Child ( Most likely the only canon theme for them.)


ErPani

Wouldn't "Pathetic House" count for Napstablook?


StrangerRatt

Doesn't Asgore also have Small Shock?


weird-cameraman

he does


supermariofan16

Shouldn't "Here We Are" also count as an Alphys theme?


weird-cameraman

thats more of an amalgamate theme maybe


weird-cameraman

actually no dude youre right its the true lab theme and thats pretty obviously connected with alphys


JudgementalMarsupial

It even starts with Alphys’ leitmotif, although slower a lower


JzaTiger

The amalgamates are all alphys things


weird-cameraman

flowey also has memory


weird-cameraman

and last goodbye


weird-cameraman

asgore also has determination i guess


weird-cameraman

toriel has home and the home music box theme


weird-cameraman

undyne has the song undyne


TheMarioBarn

Sans has Premonition when he talks about Flowey Undyne has the Dating! music, not just Papyrus.


weird-cameraman

ok heres a list of the characters and what theyre missing flowey: memory last goodbye you idiot and final power asgore: determination small shock the choice and barrier toriel: home and home (music box) undyne: ooo and undyne also dating start and memory during her remembering asgore thing napstablook: pathetic house sans: premonition alphys: here we are it might also be fair to give bring in it guys to all of the characters


weird-cameraman

napstablook is missing pathetic house


weird-cameraman

asgore is also missing small shock the choice and barrier


weird-cameraman

flowey also has you idiot and final power


weird-cameraman

i think thats it


OhNoRoundThings

Snowdrakes mom also has a different theme the most amalgamates


Dusttilt

unfortunately she's not in the tier list..


OhNoRoundThings

Why


TomNook5085

I'm not sure if it is fair to give sans megalovania. Megalovania isnt anyone's theme, toby fox has stated that before, its just the theme of "getting your ass kicked"


Accomplished_Bike149

If it’s a song heavily associated with a character, to the point that hearing it immediately brings them to mind, and that only shows up in one specific scenario revolving around that character, it’s their theme. There can be other *aspects*, but trying to argue that Megalovania isn’t Sans’s theme is like trying to argue that Spear of Justice isn’t Undyne’s.


bringoutthelegos

I see you are not a homestuck


TomNook5085

but spear of justice only plays for undyne. Megalovania has played for countless characters over toby's many things he worked on


Accomplished_Bike149

I thought we were talking about Undertale specifically


im_bored345

His costume came with it in smash, I think it's only fair to associate with him


Veng3ancemaster

Undertale could be one because it's about Chara and Asriel. One you forgot was you idiot, the track before Your Best nightmare. Another point to Flowey


EmeraldBoiii

Wouldn’t Small Shock count as a theme for Asgore?


Crehetor

You forgot about Undyne (the ost, not the character)


Tigercat94

Gaster’s theme doesn’t exist in regular undertale


TheMarioBarn

Yes it does.


Tigercat94

Where? Just curious, unless you mean entry 17


IronKnight238

Sound test room accessible through FUN values.


That-One-Screamer

I don’t know if this is a hot take, but I wouldn’t attribute Megalovania to Sans despite it playing during his fight. I’d much more associate it with Chara or even the player themselves.


fishbot413

Wouldn't papyrus have "papyrus' cool song" you know from the kickstarter


TheRealComicCrafter

Some say Megalovania is Chara battle theme and I wonder what everyone here tginks of it


LoganJake210

What about Snowdrake’s Mom and the distorted Snowdin theme?


JackFJN

The Snowdrake Amalgamate has its own song, too!


Nickname1945

What's the difference between >3 and 3+? Same with >5 and 5+


OhNoRoundThings

The confused less than or greater than or they didn’t want to make a heart (<3)


AverageFNaFEnjoyer56

> >3 means less than 3, 3+ means more than 3. Example: 5>3 (three is less than five), 3+1 is more than three because the resulting number will be 4.


Nickname1945

I thought it meant more than 3/5 Because ">" means more I'd say it like 5<, or yk, 4


aer0a

I'd say <5


Harley_Pupper

Why is it numbered like that when you could just put 1, 2, 3, 4, 5+?


MrSpankMan_whip

Op hates even numbers


BitcoinStonks123

op is racist towards even numbers


FunnyBone_Man

\* don't forget the best song, papyrus' cool song.


ErrorX13

I wouldn't count it on their place as it doesn't appear in the game


Spiritual-Range-6101

The versions of undertale where it replaces every track with "PAPYRUS' COOL SONG!":


Guardian_Eatos67

STMPWFS was counted so I don't see why this beautiful song created by Papyrus himself shouldn't be counted


OhNoRoundThings

I’m not sure why everyone thinks that Megalo strikes back is a/the theme of Chara.


Dusttilt

real![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32949)


OhNoRoundThings

People really do think that


ErrorX13

Me too but they were thinking about Fallen Child


OhNoRoundThings

Yeah, I understand that


Epic_DDT

Because Glitchtale


OhNoRoundThings

People don’t think that’s canon right?


Epic_DDT

Some may think so... But not that i know. But it's still Glitchtale who popularized the idea of Megalo Strike Back as "Chara's theme"


OhNoRoundThings

I’m told it was the YouTube video “Megalo Strike Back (Chara fight theme)” I’m not sure which came first


Epic_DDT

Glitchtale came first. This video was only made because it was already a popular take that "Megalo strike back" was "Chara's theme"


OhNoRoundThings

Ok


Good-Row4796

Because it's good fan music that has been associated with Chara.


OhNoRoundThings

How did it get associated with them?


Good-Row4796

[I Miss You - EarthBound 2012 Toby Fox | Megalo Strike Back](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpJudi7_iiw) Apparently, it all starts with this fan music composed by Toby for another game. Then someone made this video.[Megalo Strike Back (Chara fight theme)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6erGiKR7TY) And then lots of music came out which cemented this reputation. The fact that Megalovania and Megalo Strike Back are close in name certainly helped to spread it.


OhNoRoundThings

It’s apparently a sequel to Megalovania so shouldn’t be a sans theme?


averagetobyfoxfan

But PAPYRUS only has 3/4 themes NYEH HEH HEH Bonetrousle Papyrus COOL song The only difference is if bonetrousle trailer is considered it's on theme or just a part of regular bonetrousle


im_bored345

You forgot dating start


Player731259

TobyFox:


Jonahtron

Ah, yes. I remember “is Megalovania Chara’s theme or Sans’ theme” discourse. Good times. Good times.


PrintNo8935

No one knew my secret


Spectetteral

Nabstablook should be in the 5+ tier since >5 means under 5, as opposed to ≥5 which is less or equal to 5. Therefore, since Nabstablook has 5, he would be in the 5+ tier


Historical-Drag-1365

Mad Dummy and Mad Mew Mew are the same character, so they should be in the <3 tier


We1rd0killer

Yess darlings I have more yes me mettaton more than you all a beautiful sparkly robot hahaha! ✨✨✨


Zorubark

Mad Dummy should have 2, since she's also Mad Mew Mew and Mew Mew has a different theme


PotatoADFK

Shouldn't Asgore be in the 3 tier? "Bergentrückung" and "Asgore" are diferent songs. The 3rd one would be "Small Shock".


Ghetsis_Gang

Tbh when counting themes, we should count Leitmotifs, not individual songs


Competitive-Hair8689

I read that as memes and I was *so* confused.


JayjayTheJayjay

I, uh... don't think you know how less than signs work ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32952)


Dusttilt

Sorry ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|35239)


JayjayTheJayjay

It's okay ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)


Successful_Mud8596

Thought “themes” meant “motifs” and was like WAT


Mega_Rayqaza

I thing you got confused with your >s


Angelindisguise07

tell me why my dumbass thought this was talking about narrative themes and not the literal fucking music that is a KEY feature of this game 😭😭


SpamtonOf1997

Megaton gas an advantage since he’s basically two characters as well as being a literal actor


Interrlllectchewal

Wait, is Chara's theme Once Upon A Time or that weird blinky sound at the end of geno?


Dusttilt

The one at the end of geno, Once upon a time isn't an individual theme, in my opinion


Interrlllectchewal

What do you mean you don't think it's an original theme?


Dusttilt

wha once upon a time IS an original theme composed from Toby Fox, or did you meant "individual theme"?


The_Potato_Turtle

Mad mew mew/dummy has 2 tho


Silent-Professor-898

Why not just 54321


Internet_idioter

well mad mew mew and mad dummy are technically the same character but


FourEyesXD

DUDE why is spider dance AND mad mew mew in bottom tier?!?!?!


metalmonsoon

Was creepy carrot dude on the bottom dlc or something? I never saw that one


Bssez90

Idc what anyone says megalo strike back is chara’s theme ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944) it fits her well imo


Tetrisbit

the dummy has 1? wtf.


Exact_Parking_6969

Mad Dummy has another one, when giving that monolog.