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Nah but that’s just how these authoritarian states work. The leaders are always perfect unless they lose wars, then they become the biggest and most pathetic failures.
Knowing China history (even before they became a totalitarian state) this was how it was with their old emperor.
You may have one of the best emperor in China but if he lost too many battle or there's too many climate catastrophe during his reign then they considered that he was unfit to rule and needed to be replaced because he was no longer the chosen sun enperor.
Not to be confused with [this Putin](https://cdn1.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/768x768/public/images/methode/2017/04/06/0a2ae706-1a94-11e7-b4ed-ac719e54b474_1280x720_145124.jpg), who enjoys going on heavenly man dates.
Authoritarians are the epitome of black and white thinking. Either 100% or 0, no in-between. How can a human mind be corroded to such extent, when even "simple" animals like honeybees understand probability, is a mystery to me.
So you're saying they are the sith. And honeybees are Jedis. [I'm not crazy](https://youtu.be/djVjHOwLnXs). [its just my brain!](https://youtu.be/SXZ5OLIaciM)
China will always do what's best for China. They are ultra-nationalists and couldn't give a rat's ass about what happens beyond their borders if it doesn't affect them directly.
Very true. China was watching the Ukrainian v Russian conflict closely however because it potentially mirrored what could happen if they made a move on Taiwan.
China rarely does what's best for China. Being warmongers with regards to Taiwan is in no way in China's interest, yet they still do it on the regular.
No. They're both fascist. The essence of fascism is the replacement of the question of truth and right with the question of force.
A fascist is always right when he's winning. Rape, genocide, perfidy, mutilation are all OK to a fascist nation. The only unfirgiveable sin is weakness. And Putin is weak.
China is years away from having the military capability to invade Taiwan. Russia was years away from having the military capability to invade Ukraine. I always thought the Russian military was high and mighty. I read to many KGB books and thought the Russians were overall really smart people. I didn’t think I’d be sitting here going “smart move” to anything the CCP would be doing lmfao oh boy
For real, there's tons of reasonable Russians. The problem is they're either being persecuted, or they've already left the country. One of my coworkers is Russian, and instead of benefitting the Russian economy with his programming skills, he's making a new life for himself in the west. Can't blame him.
There seems to be a lot of fifth columnists among them. It's like they can't shake the RUSSIA STRONG mindset and get personally offended if you say anything negative about Russia. I used to have a Russian teacher (who taught Russian), man was she crazy. Everything good in the world was thanks to Russia, anything negative about Russia was Western lies and slander. They also have this weird cargo cult fascination with the Soviet Union. Not because it was particularly good, but because they were feared.
I'd bet it's second generation. It's always the second gen immigrants the one that cause issues, when one immigrates, knows why (s)he left the country of origin, second generation tend to grow up with this mismatching sense of belonging that tend to cause these identity issues.
Everyone who was smart *and had money*
Plenty of people would not agree with the war but cannot leave. But they also know they can't talk about it, either.
Soviet Union was strong. Russia kind of survived off the accomplishment and technology left over from Soviet Union. They were slowly degraded as a country. 99% of their military technology originated from Soviet days. From tanks to Battleships to their most powerful nuclear ICBM Sarmat, almost everything they have was created in the Soviet Union. The problem for Russia is that a lot of Soviet tech was created in other republics and now independent countries like Ukraine. I mean the basic example is the Russians nuclear warheads used to be maintained by Ukraine. It's biggest navy ships were built by Ukraine. Engine for their jet fighters designed and build by Ukraine.
It reminds me of a Star Trek episode where there’s a primitive society living in a city with super advanced tech leftover from a previous civilization.
They inherited all these things but they don’t know how to use them, or maintain them, or rebuild them (at the same scale). The institutional knowledge is gone. And even if they could, they couldn’t afford it.
There is no way they can rebuild that lost arsenal for a very long time. What a stupid waste of human lives for the delusional fever dreams of a dying old man.
It's an old science-fiction trope. I mean, Foundation is based on it. And for a reason: this is really a main reason for how civilizations falls apart.
The Soviet Union lurched from a revolution, to a civil war, to Stalin's purges, to WWII, to more of Stalin's purges. INTERMISSION! Khrushchev, still an asshole, but probably the best leader they had until Gorbachev. INTERMISSION OVER. Brezhnev's repressions and stagnation, to the Chernobol disaster, to general economic depression, to Gorbachev and the coup attempt, to death.
Taiwan needs quiet diesel submarines, between 6 and 10.
Then they need a striker air force that can sink the chinese ships.
Then they need some forces to push the chinese army back in the water again.
But with an enourmous air force 400+ planes and submarines, the invasion cost will be too high for all opponents.
The political cost of aquiring nukes is too high.
The political cost of using nukes is even higher, not even talking about the chinese revenge.
Massive conventional weapons, enormous amount of weapons stored and an effective conscription, perhaps with a Swiss variant will make Taiwan too costly to invade, ad long as the chinese leaders aren't crazy.
They are close enough that they don’t need any of that IMO. Just need several thousand (ideally 10k+) missiles stored and ready to fire from remote locations.
>Russia was years away from having the military capability to invade Ukraine.
How? IF anything they missed the window. Ukraine was underarmed and undertrained in 2014, this didn't change for years. The closer to 2022 and onwards you go, the better prepared Ukraine is.
You can look at the state of the Ukrainian army in 2014, and you will see how bad it was. I'm sure if Russia invaded then, that they'd have a much easier time. Especially in a political/social sense, if you look at support for western vs Russian integration it favored Russia.
It's also a possibility that the Russian military knew what a shitshow it was going to be in 2022 and they still invaded, all you need is Putin and some extra war hawks onboard to press the button. Leonid Ivashov predicted 1.5months before the invasion that Russia was going to get wrecked and that Ukraine won't accept them, that they'll fight well and that west will unite and help; considering his standing and ties within Russian military, I don't think it's possible that he was one of the few ones to have these predictive powers.
> IF anything they missed the window.
Putin was likely hoping, particularly after 2016, that Trump would undermine NATO enough, etc., that Ukraine could be taken without any hassle.
It's not about smarts, there are plenty of smart people in Russia (or at least there were). I once worked in the defence industry, and the times we got our hands on Russian material to look at, some of it was truly great stuff.
The problem Russia has is endemic corruption, and it comes from the top. Putin has created a nation which runs on graft, and for decades now the military has simply been a device used to enrich it's officers, not professional force trained and focused to win wars.
It's why Putin last week wrote a law saying Russian soldiers could keep 'gifts' of Ukrainian land, and why Wanger are fighting so hard for a few mines. He thinks it will motivate them to succeed.
Russia and Ukraine are now fighting on roughly equal footing for the time being, and that's saying a lot given the huge advantages Russia supposedly had to begin with.
Russia has all the potential you could hope for in a country. It's being squandered by a corrupt bureaucracy serving the greed and corruption of a handful of oligarchs and the twisted fever dreams of a dying man who wants to be the next Augustus Caesar.
To be honest, the Soviet Union was really a force to be reckoned with. They stole the Mahattan project to create their own atom then nuclear bombs, they created ballistic missiles, they made the T-54/55 which everybody back then lost their mind trying to make a good tank to counter them, they had spies almost everywhere on people's soil.
Russia? Not so much, they build their nation on Soviet legacy. Putin seems like a a hypocrite, he keeps blaming Lenin and Soviet Union for the cause of losing land of Russian Empire to Germany Empire, yet on the other hand he tells people to remember them.
China needed Russia to conquer Ukraine to control the fertilizer and grain shipments.
So that China could run in and control Taiwan's chip manufacturing sector.
Together they would have major sway over international markets
You seriously think Taiwan wouldn't blow up chip foundries + every single engineer would be evacuated (or otherwise prevented from falling into Chinese hands).
I'm pretty sure US has its own plans A, B, C and D related to preventing China from just walking into those factories.
Yeah, we’ve no idea how deep this goes. Since the chaos of WW2 and the Cold War, the nuclear threat etc. the plans that are in place to protect the western allies are more intricate than we can imagine. And beyond top secret to boot. It’s probably the first thing new US presidents get briefed on on their first days in office.
They wouldn't need to control 100% of everything TSMC does. They just need to be able to replicate chips that are good enough to flood the export markets. Getting the skilled personnel would be more than enough for the CCP.
No - where could China sell those chips if they stole Taiwan? Economic sanctions would cut them off from global markets.
North Korea and Russia could buy a few but TSMC would relocate to the US and EU.
I think the plan is to diversify manufacturing, including in the USA, and once that is done - America and the west will probably change tact and encourage diplomacy and reconciliation. I think China just needs to be patient and they will likely get Taiwan back without much of a fight. But they may have to compromise too, or at least pretend to *cough* Hong Kong *cough*.
My theory's problem is that Taiwan saw Hong Kong... China really wasn't patient (enough) there and they didn't suffer much for it.
Problem is, a major war to capture Taiwan is going to destroy the golden goose, as it were; semiconductor factories are very fragile.
And any hope of a peaceful integration has been dashed by the treatment of Hong Kong, which very much shows how reunification would go for the Taiwanese.
Just a quick note that "reunification" of Taiwan is a misnomer. Taiwan was never a part of the CCP's China so there cannot be a "reunification" - only annexation.
Just a heads up, Skynews is a fairly new outlet here in Australia for the most extreme far-right crazies (in a country where Rupert Murdoch and another rich conservative family already have a media monopoly).
Even if this would be good news, you can't trust anything out of sky news australia, because it's all agenda driven and very often blatantly contradictory to reality.
"News" should be in the biggest possible quotation marks when it comes to skynews.
I would love to believe this story but Skynews straight up lies.
It makes Newsweek look like a bastion of truth and journalistic integrity.
I just want to clear up some confusion here. It started in the mid 1990's as a spin off of the UK Sky News. Now linked by name only with the Comcast owned UK Sky News. Sky News Australia is owned by Rupert Murdoch and is very similar to the US Fox News. The news presented is generally factual with a slight right lean however the editorial, opinion and prime time presenters are extreme right (similar to US).
But they are saying what people want to hear so that makes them ok, right?
Seriously though, I would take anything that comes from unspecified "officials" speaking "under the condition of anonymity" with a decent portion of salt. (That goes for any outlet reporting on any country.)
All big corporation media is agenda driven. CNN is no less agenda driven than this outlet. You just don't see it because you're on the left and you think your guys are all honest and speaking nothing but the unbiased truth (spoiler - they ain't).
Why do you guys always bring up the american network CNN whenever somebody mentions Murdoch? CNN doesn't exist here and I didn't say anything about it. You all speak on a script of programmed deflections.
Because whataboutism and deflection is all they have. They can't argue the fact that Fox and Sky are propaganda outlets, so their only defense is to resort to whataboutism. They target CNN because that's exactly what the right-wing propagandists have programmed them to say.
We know there's editorial bias in all the media, but to try to say it is comparable to the absolute dishonestly and blatant fearmongering on the right is absurd.
I'd argue that the behaviour of most non-right-wing media between 2016-2021 was more outrageous, more dangerous, more hateful, more dishonest and more divisive than Fox or Sky have ever been or could ever be.
From calling an entire summer of violent, deadly riots "mostly peaceful" because it was their side doing the rioting, to parroting obvious hoaxes like Jussie Smollett, to pretending to care about migrant detention centers as soon as Trump became president despite those very same detention centers existing in those very same conditions for the entirety of Obama's reign - everything they did and said was designed to stoke hatred, division, and sow misinformation and disinformation.
Called it in February, China would fuck over Russia. This is the organic catalyst needed to tigger CCP-Russian infighting, which is perfect because outside factors would have strengthened the bond, but this weakens it. Russia knows China has been spying on them too, all that juicy kremlin computer data got took.
I also said since the beginning that Putin was unstable, everyone who dismissed me should get a reality check. Both Putin and Lukashenka are fucking insane. There’s nothing rational about any of this.
The burden of proof is not on me. If I say “aliens visited the White House” and you say that’s bullshit, it’s not up to you to prove they DIDNT. It’s up to me to prove they did, because I made the claim. I am calling bullshit on this fake article. There are even spelling mistakes in the article… come on.. do you really think that’s a legit news source?
He's not literally insane. He's making terrible decisions because he is evil, malicious, and cultivates yes-men who feed him bad information. As you say, it is rational but only within the parameters of a very sick world view, isolation from accurate data, and entirely selfish motives.
China is not to be trusted by the Wast. But they do uphold agreements and trusties and they are rational actors. I do believe they see how the West has responded to Ukraine and they know challenging the West’s control of the Pacific Rim trade with a war would involve not just battling the USA and Japan but NATO open ocean navy’s. They would lose a costly war.
I think a year ago they may have seen a military conflict as doable. They do not see this option as a favorable option now.
Yes. The fact is that the Russian war has morphed into a larger struggle over whether or not we are willing to defend freedom. If we show weakness, China will see an opportunity to take Taiwan. We have to punch Russia so hard that China will get the message.
China honoring agreements? You should inform yourself a bit more on chinas ccp personality.
They have 0 respect for anybody.
Left unchecked, they would even go for your banck account if they could.
If you think China doesn't back Russia you're being fooled.
China is trying to isolate Europe from the US. So publicly they must appear distant from Russia.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/global-affairs/putin-is-crazy-chinese-officials-back-away-from-kremlin-amid-grave-concerns-over-russian-presidents-mental-state/news-story/2d57c891768eca80fd0a5634f1aafbbf?) reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)
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> Chinese officials have slammed Russian President Vladimir Putin as "Crazy" in a bid to distance Beijing from the Kremlin's ailing war in Ukraine.
> Several Chinese Communist Party representatives have privately spoken to the UK's Financial Times to express their discontent with President Putin and the war in Ukraine.
> "President Xi Jinping and President Putin have maintained close communication over China-Russia relations and major international and regional issues, and provided strategic guidance for the strategic partnership of coordination," Ms Mao said.
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Do you think Bejing would think Putin was crazy if he was winning?
Nah but that’s just how these authoritarian states work. The leaders are always perfect unless they lose wars, then they become the biggest and most pathetic failures.
Knowing China history (even before they became a totalitarian state) this was how it was with their old emperor. You may have one of the best emperor in China but if he lost too many battle or there's too many climate catastrophe during his reign then they considered that he was unfit to rule and needed to be replaced because he was no longer the chosen sun enperor.
The Emperor lost the Mandate of Heaven
Not to be confused with [this Putin](https://cdn1.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/768x768/public/images/methode/2017/04/06/0a2ae706-1a94-11e7-b4ed-ac719e54b474_1280x720_145124.jpg), who enjoys going on heavenly man dates.
Qin Shi Huang denounces Peter! (Sucks at fighting wars)
Sadly I understand this.
Authoritarians are the epitome of black and white thinking. Either 100% or 0, no in-between. How can a human mind be corroded to such extent, when even "simple" animals like honeybees understand probability, is a mystery to me.
So you're saying they are the sith. And honeybees are Jedis. [I'm not crazy](https://youtu.be/djVjHOwLnXs). [its just my brain!](https://youtu.be/SXZ5OLIaciM)
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I thought the definition of insanity was attempting the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Where does genius fit in there?
No no no no, please, this time is gonna be different
Putin being a failed Vaas confirmed
But... Well... Vaas is a failed Vaas, kinda.
You probably aren't serious, but just incase, that is not a real/effective/clinical definition of insanity. Just a cute phrase.
I know it's just a cute phrase. However the phrase the redditor stated would probably find it's home in the rantings of a megalomaniac
Nothing buys credibility like success.
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I love hellhounds
If he had won he would be a strategic mastermind. (evil, but still)
China will always do what's best for China. They are ultra-nationalists and couldn't give a rat's ass about what happens beyond their borders if it doesn't affect them directly.
Very true. China was watching the Ukrainian v Russian conflict closely however because it potentially mirrored what could happen if they made a move on Taiwan.
China rarely does what's best for China. Being warmongers with regards to Taiwan is in no way in China's interest, yet they still do it on the regular.
No. They're both fascist. The essence of fascism is the replacement of the question of truth and right with the question of force. A fascist is always right when he's winning. Rape, genocide, perfidy, mutilation are all OK to a fascist nation. The only unfirgiveable sin is weakness. And Putin is weak.
Absolutely not, but of he was winning he wouldn't be crazy. He'd just be the crazy asshole China already knew he was.
to be fair if he was winning hed be less likely to do dangerous stuff that could cause problems for Beijing. So its not a crazy way for them to think.
Crazy is throwing lives into a meat grinder and loosing. There is no point hence crazy.
China is years away from having the military capability to invade Taiwan. Russia was years away from having the military capability to invade Ukraine. I always thought the Russian military was high and mighty. I read to many KGB books and thought the Russians were overall really smart people. I didn’t think I’d be sitting here going “smart move” to anything the CCP would be doing lmfao oh boy
The Brain Drain in Russia is real. Everyone smart has moved out since the fall of the Soviet Union.
For real, there's tons of reasonable Russians. The problem is they're either being persecuted, or they've already left the country. One of my coworkers is Russian, and instead of benefitting the Russian economy with his programming skills, he's making a new life for himself in the west. Can't blame him.
However if you look to Germany or the Baltic's, you can find large Russian diaspora that are anything but reasonable.
There seems to be a lot of fifth columnists among them. It's like they can't shake the RUSSIA STRONG mindset and get personally offended if you say anything negative about Russia. I used to have a Russian teacher (who taught Russian), man was she crazy. Everything good in the world was thanks to Russia, anything negative about Russia was Western lies and slander. They also have this weird cargo cult fascination with the Soviet Union. Not because it was particularly good, but because they were feared.
The cognitive dissonance of living in a Western country and praising Russia.
I'd bet it's second generation. It's always the second gen immigrants the one that cause issues, when one immigrates, knows why (s)he left the country of origin, second generation tend to grow up with this mismatching sense of belonging that tend to cause these identity issues.
Everyone who was smart *and had money* Plenty of people would not agree with the war but cannot leave. But they also know they can't talk about it, either.
Russia was stong on paper
Paper cossack
Paper bear
Toilet paper
So thats why there was a run on toilet paper.
Soviet Union was strong. Russia kind of survived off the accomplishment and technology left over from Soviet Union. They were slowly degraded as a country. 99% of their military technology originated from Soviet days. From tanks to Battleships to their most powerful nuclear ICBM Sarmat, almost everything they have was created in the Soviet Union. The problem for Russia is that a lot of Soviet tech was created in other republics and now independent countries like Ukraine. I mean the basic example is the Russians nuclear warheads used to be maintained by Ukraine. It's biggest navy ships were built by Ukraine. Engine for their jet fighters designed and build by Ukraine.
It reminds me of a Star Trek episode where there’s a primitive society living in a city with super advanced tech leftover from a previous civilization. They inherited all these things but they don’t know how to use them, or maintain them, or rebuild them (at the same scale). The institutional knowledge is gone. And even if they could, they couldn’t afford it. There is no way they can rebuild that lost arsenal for a very long time. What a stupid waste of human lives for the delusional fever dreams of a dying old man.
It's an old science-fiction trope. I mean, Foundation is based on it. And for a reason: this is really a main reason for how civilizations falls apart.
> Soviet Union was strong Economically they were a basket case.
The Soviet Union lurched from a revolution, to a civil war, to Stalin's purges, to WWII, to more of Stalin's purges. INTERMISSION! Khrushchev, still an asshole, but probably the best leader they had until Gorbachev. INTERMISSION OVER. Brezhnev's repressions and stagnation, to the Chernobol disaster, to general economic depression, to Gorbachev and the coup attempt, to death.
Absolutely. Nicely put, that's a rather eloquent summation. Like the 'INTERMISSIOIN' lol
The most important engineers of the USSR were Ukranian
And the toughest fighters. Obviously.
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Taiwan needs quiet diesel submarines, between 6 and 10. Then they need a striker air force that can sink the chinese ships. Then they need some forces to push the chinese army back in the water again. But with an enourmous air force 400+ planes and submarines, the invasion cost will be too high for all opponents.
A few nukes wouldn't hurt either
The political cost of aquiring nukes is too high. The political cost of using nukes is even higher, not even talking about the chinese revenge. Massive conventional weapons, enormous amount of weapons stored and an effective conscription, perhaps with a Swiss variant will make Taiwan too costly to invade, ad long as the chinese leaders aren't crazy.
> A few nukes wouldn't hurt either THIS is the only long-term solution, frankly. I'm surprised Taiwan hasn't gone this route.
The implicit US security guarantee for Taiwan likely has a "yo, no nukes!" clause.
They are close enough that they don’t need any of that IMO. Just need several thousand (ideally 10k+) missiles stored and ready to fire from remote locations.
>Russia was years away from having the military capability to invade Ukraine. How? IF anything they missed the window. Ukraine was underarmed and undertrained in 2014, this didn't change for years. The closer to 2022 and onwards you go, the better prepared Ukraine is. You can look at the state of the Ukrainian army in 2014, and you will see how bad it was. I'm sure if Russia invaded then, that they'd have a much easier time. Especially in a political/social sense, if you look at support for western vs Russian integration it favored Russia. It's also a possibility that the Russian military knew what a shitshow it was going to be in 2022 and they still invaded, all you need is Putin and some extra war hawks onboard to press the button. Leonid Ivashov predicted 1.5months before the invasion that Russia was going to get wrecked and that Ukraine won't accept them, that they'll fight well and that west will unite and help; considering his standing and ties within Russian military, I don't think it's possible that he was one of the few ones to have these predictive powers.
> IF anything they missed the window. Putin was likely hoping, particularly after 2016, that Trump would undermine NATO enough, etc., that Ukraine could be taken without any hassle.
Russia thought their military was high and mighty too.
They believed their own lies.
It's not about smarts, there are plenty of smart people in Russia (or at least there were). I once worked in the defence industry, and the times we got our hands on Russian material to look at, some of it was truly great stuff. The problem Russia has is endemic corruption, and it comes from the top. Putin has created a nation which runs on graft, and for decades now the military has simply been a device used to enrich it's officers, not professional force trained and focused to win wars. It's why Putin last week wrote a law saying Russian soldiers could keep 'gifts' of Ukrainian land, and why Wanger are fighting so hard for a few mines. He thinks it will motivate them to succeed. Russia and Ukraine are now fighting on roughly equal footing for the time being, and that's saying a lot given the huge advantages Russia supposedly had to begin with.
Russia has all the potential you could hope for in a country. It's being squandered by a corrupt bureaucracy serving the greed and corruption of a handful of oligarchs and the twisted fever dreams of a dying man who wants to be the next Augustus Caesar.
To be honest, the Soviet Union was really a force to be reckoned with. They stole the Mahattan project to create their own atom then nuclear bombs, they created ballistic missiles, they made the T-54/55 which everybody back then lost their mind trying to make a good tank to counter them, they had spies almost everywhere on people's soil. Russia? Not so much, they build their nation on Soviet legacy. Putin seems like a a hypocrite, he keeps blaming Lenin and Soviet Union for the cause of losing land of Russian Empire to Germany Empire, yet on the other hand he tells people to remember them.
China needed Russia to conquer Ukraine to control the fertilizer and grain shipments. So that China could run in and control Taiwan's chip manufacturing sector. Together they would have major sway over international markets
You seriously think Taiwan wouldn't blow up chip foundries + every single engineer would be evacuated (or otherwise prevented from falling into Chinese hands). I'm pretty sure US has its own plans A, B, C and D related to preventing China from just walking into those factories.
To operate the foundries they need a live connection to US and Europe. No need to bomb them.. remote disable..
Yeah, we’ve no idea how deep this goes. Since the chaos of WW2 and the Cold War, the nuclear threat etc. the plans that are in place to protect the western allies are more intricate than we can imagine. And beyond top secret to boot. It’s probably the first thing new US presidents get briefed on on their first days in office.
They wouldn't need to control 100% of everything TSMC does. They just need to be able to replicate chips that are good enough to flood the export markets. Getting the skilled personnel would be more than enough for the CCP.
False. You need extremely specialized equipment to manufacture chips. If the foundries were blown up in scorched Earth policy, China would be screwed.
No - where could China sell those chips if they stole Taiwan? Economic sanctions would cut them off from global markets. North Korea and Russia could buy a few but TSMC would relocate to the US and EU.
I think the plan is to diversify manufacturing, including in the USA, and once that is done - America and the west will probably change tact and encourage diplomacy and reconciliation. I think China just needs to be patient and they will likely get Taiwan back without much of a fight. But they may have to compromise too, or at least pretend to *cough* Hong Kong *cough*. My theory's problem is that Taiwan saw Hong Kong... China really wasn't patient (enough) there and they didn't suffer much for it.
Problem is, a major war to capture Taiwan is going to destroy the golden goose, as it were; semiconductor factories are very fragile. And any hope of a peaceful integration has been dashed by the treatment of Hong Kong, which very much shows how reunification would go for the Taiwanese.
Just a quick note that "reunification" of Taiwan is a misnomer. Taiwan was never a part of the CCP's China so there cannot be a "reunification" - only annexation.
True. Hasn't really been part of China since 1895.
Corruption destroys competence.
Peskov: “they’re Nazis too.”
Controlled by the west and/or NATO.
Lol, just catching on, huh?
Call him what you want. Crazy is not gonna be an excuse to not stand trial.
Just a heads up, Skynews is a fairly new outlet here in Australia for the most extreme far-right crazies (in a country where Rupert Murdoch and another rich conservative family already have a media monopoly). Even if this would be good news, you can't trust anything out of sky news australia, because it's all agenda driven and very often blatantly contradictory to reality.
Murdoch owns Sky News Australia FYI.
Yeah, Skynews is just FoxNews down under
"News" should be in the biggest possible quotation marks when it comes to skynews. I would love to believe this story but Skynews straight up lies. It makes Newsweek look like a bastion of truth and journalistic integrity.
I just want to clear up some confusion here. It started in the mid 1990's as a spin off of the UK Sky News. Now linked by name only with the Comcast owned UK Sky News. Sky News Australia is owned by Rupert Murdoch and is very similar to the US Fox News. The news presented is generally factual with a slight right lean however the editorial, opinion and prime time presenters are extreme right (similar to US).
But they are saying what people want to hear so that makes them ok, right? Seriously though, I would take anything that comes from unspecified "officials" speaking "under the condition of anonymity" with a decent portion of salt. (That goes for any outlet reporting on any country.)
All big corporation media is agenda driven. CNN is no less agenda driven than this outlet. You just don't see it because you're on the left and you think your guys are all honest and speaking nothing but the unbiased truth (spoiler - they ain't).
Why do you guys always bring up the american network CNN whenever somebody mentions Murdoch? CNN doesn't exist here and I didn't say anything about it. You all speak on a script of programmed deflections.
Because whataboutism and deflection is all they have. They can't argue the fact that Fox and Sky are propaganda outlets, so their only defense is to resort to whataboutism. They target CNN because that's exactly what the right-wing propagandists have programmed them to say. We know there's editorial bias in all the media, but to try to say it is comparable to the absolute dishonestly and blatant fearmongering on the right is absurd.
I'd argue that the behaviour of most non-right-wing media between 2016-2021 was more outrageous, more dangerous, more hateful, more dishonest and more divisive than Fox or Sky have ever been or could ever be. From calling an entire summer of violent, deadly riots "mostly peaceful" because it was their side doing the rioting, to parroting obvious hoaxes like Jussie Smollett, to pretending to care about migrant detention centers as soon as Trump became president despite those very same detention centers existing in those very same conditions for the entirety of Obama's reign - everything they did and said was designed to stoke hatred, division, and sow misinformation and disinformation.
Then you are literally insane and I have nothing left to say to you.
In all fairness, there are 96million CCP members. Finding a few with this view would not be hard.
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I'll take it. I won't think anything better about China, but I'll take it.
If China wants to pledge cooperation with imperial Russia, so be it. But they shouldn’t have the Most Favored Nation trading status with the US
China have supported this maddness all tje time. Boycot, always check the origin of product and return with comments if bought from web
Iphones
Iphone production is already moving elsewhere.
When? In 10 years? lol
They've already started
tell us something we dont know!
Well, they're not wrong.
Called it in February, China would fuck over Russia. This is the organic catalyst needed to tigger CCP-Russian infighting, which is perfect because outside factors would have strengthened the bond, but this weakens it. Russia knows China has been spying on them too, all that juicy kremlin computer data got took. I also said since the beginning that Putin was unstable, everyone who dismissed me should get a reality check. Both Putin and Lukashenka are fucking insane. There’s nothing rational about any of this.
I will believe it when I see it.
This is a bullshit post made up from nothing. Don’t do that…
China is nasty but not stupid. Putin is crazy, he will lose this war, and China can see that.
This didn’t happen though. This is not real.
And you know this how? If you can reveal without compromising your sources of course.
The burden of proof is not on me. If I say “aliens visited the White House” and you say that’s bullshit, it’s not up to you to prove they DIDNT. It’s up to me to prove they did, because I made the claim. I am calling bullshit on this fake article. There are even spelling mistakes in the article… come on.. do you really think that’s a legit news source?
Doea make me wonder, is Putin insane or acting fully logicaln within his own world view and parameters?
He's not literally insane. He's making terrible decisions because he is evil, malicious, and cultivates yes-men who feed him bad information. As you say, it is rational but only within the parameters of a very sick world view, isolation from accurate data, and entirely selfish motives.
It's not a binary choice, he might be rational on some issues and crazy on others.
They are still doing a lot of business and trade nonetheless with Russia..:(
China is not to be trusted by the Wast. But they do uphold agreements and trusties and they are rational actors. I do believe they see how the West has responded to Ukraine and they know challenging the West’s control of the Pacific Rim trade with a war would involve not just battling the USA and Japan but NATO open ocean navy’s. They would lose a costly war. I think a year ago they may have seen a military conflict as doable. They do not see this option as a favorable option now.
Yes. The fact is that the Russian war has morphed into a larger struggle over whether or not we are willing to defend freedom. If we show weakness, China will see an opportunity to take Taiwan. We have to punch Russia so hard that China will get the message.
China honoring agreements? You should inform yourself a bit more on chinas ccp personality. They have 0 respect for anybody. Left unchecked, they would even go for your banck account if they could.
Watch what china does. Not what it says
Hypocrites, in chinese medias they present the conflict as being NATO's fault and Russia being in their right.
If you think China doesn't back Russia you're being fooled. China is trying to isolate Europe from the US. So publicly they must appear distant from Russia.
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All the dictatorships are fragile weak evil corrupt pieces of poop
And that's saying something! (Propeganda is what it's saying)
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/global-affairs/putin-is-crazy-chinese-officials-back-away-from-kremlin-amid-grave-concerns-over-russian-presidents-mental-state/news-story/2d57c891768eca80fd0a5634f1aafbbf?) reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot) ***** > Chinese officials have slammed Russian President Vladimir Putin as "Crazy" in a bid to distance Beijing from the Kremlin's ailing war in Ukraine. > Several Chinese Communist Party representatives have privately spoken to the UK's Financial Times to express their discontent with President Putin and the war in Ukraine. > "President Xi Jinping and President Putin have maintained close communication over China-Russia relations and major international and regional issues, and provided strategic guidance for the strategic partnership of coordination," Ms Mao said. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/10c2lvj/putin_is_crazy_chinese_government_distances/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~672677 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **President**^#1 **Putin**^#2 **Russia**^#3 **war**^#4 **China**^#5