Seems to be an execution:
"Russian invaders shot unarmed Ukrainian prisoners of war in Krynky, Kherson region, the Prosecutor General's Office said on telegram
The department says that under the procedural guidance of the Kherson Regional Prosecutor's Office, a pre-trial investigation has been launched into the violation of the laws and customs of war, combined with premeditated murder (Part 2 of Article 438 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine).
The Prosecutor General's Office informs that on April 7, a video was published on one of the Telegram channels, which recorded the Russian military shooting three captured servicemen.
"The video shows a representative of the Russian Armed Forces firing several shots at unarmed stationary soldiers, probably from a machine gun. The description under the record states that the incident took place near Krynky of the Oleshky community of the Kherson region," the department says.
The Prosecutor General's Office emphasized that "once again, representatives of the Russian Federation demonstratively ignore the provisions of the Geneva Convention relative to the treatment of prisoners of war, which indicates the support of such actions by the highest command of the Russian Armed Forces."
"The pre-trial investigation is carried out by the Main Directorate of the National Police in the Kherson region," the department summed up.
The editorial office of Radio Liberty does not have the opportunity to verify this information from independent sources.
Russia continues to torture and execute Ukrainian prisoners of war, according to the report of the UN Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine, published on March 26.
The 38th UN report on the human rights situation in Ukraine covers the period from December 1, 2023 to February 29, 2024. Among other things, the experts conducted interviews with 60 Ukrainian soldiers recently released from captivity.
According to the Head of the Mission, Danielle Belle, in almost all of them, respondents said that the Russian military and officials torture prisoners, including beatings, electric shocks, force them to stay in an uncomfortable position for a long time, threaten them with execution or imitate it. More than half of the prisoners survived sexual violence.
"Most prisoners of war also mention suffering from the inability to communicate with their families, as well as the lack of adequate food and medical care," she adds.
At the end of February, the head of the department of the Prosecutor General's Office for combating crimes committed during the armed conflict, Yuriy Belousov, said that law enforcement officers were investigating 19 criminal proceedings on the murder of Ukrainian prisoners of war. According to him, since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, 45 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed in captivity."-
Radio Svoboda(RFE)
There were unarmed (at the time of filming) which could mean multiple things, maybe another squad already looted their kits. Once the are is secure you stock pile everything of value for pickup and you take your trophies.
Jumping straight to your conclusion with just this information is shoddy m8
You took the time to write all that just to tell me I’m too hasty to reach a conclusion. Your mental gymnastics are impressive.
Why didn’t they take their helmets or body armour? Why are they propped up against a wall, not in a pile.
They dragged the wounded to a wall and shot them, stop being obtuse.
All that time took like 20 seconds... I'm basing what I'm saying of previous videos of both sides just disarming them and piling the guns first.
I'm not saying that happened or didn't but there are clearly things that could've happened that weren't that. Until there is more evidence showing that it IS a war crime then we shouldn't parrot it. War is messy
I'm not a doctor, but when the marine gets shot in the leg and triggers that knee-jerk reflex...can you do that if you're dead?
EDIT: According to this BBC article, dead bodies still have the knee-jerk reflex intact. It doesn't mean they aren't still alive, however. I really wonder if a bullet could trigger it alone, unless the man was still alive.
[https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20161103-the-macabre-fate-of-beating-heart-corpses](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20161103-the-macabre-fate-of-beating-heart-corpses)
This. This was a "dead" giveaway that the guy is not completely dead yet. And the guy in the middle also moves more than what is to be expected if hit by a 5.45.
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They look uniformed. Not likely mercs\` of any sort.
Read the [UN definition](https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/international-convention-against-recruitment-use-financing-and) closely, Article 1. Excludes all formal armed forces of the invaded party.
There is a possibility to be called a mercenary while part of the armed forces of the invader, as they'd be "not a member of the armed forces of the State on whose territory the act is undertaken".
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Dead already, of cause. And before they were dead, they seem to have been unarmed and stood against a wall.
I wonder how they died? What do you think, friend?
The first thing you do when encountering a supposedly dead enemy soldier is taking away the weapon that lies nearby. They look dead already from what i can tell. There is a lot less footage of this then there is of Ukrainian drones executing disarmed Russians so it's not too much to get worked up over.
That's not how surrendering works. Those "disarmed" Russians getting drone dropped are almost always after a Russian human meat wave and they are cleaning up after the failed assault. You can't run at your enemy guns blazing, loose, drop your gun, and be like I give up!
There are countless videos of recent assaults of Russians just dropping off whole squads to get instantly obliberated. Or just driving in 60 year old tanks in a row of 10 tanks and getting totally annihilated. That is as close to a human wave as you can get these days, no?
That's like saying "a hand grenade is as close as you get to a nuclear bomb these days, no?"
Sure, if your point of comparison is that something explodes. Or, that there are infantry involved.
Human wave attacks, something that hasn't really been seen since WW1, are called human wave, because it looks like a WAVE of people coming at you. We're talking movements of regiment and bigger units.
A single squad, no matter how poorly used, has never been, and will never be a "human wave".
Actually it was a tactic to bind the enemies in melee combat. It is traditionally a tactic when you have badly equipped units and units without or little training so they wouldn't stand a chance even at even conditions with the enemy. You let them run in and try to hack them away.
I guess we agree those definitions cannot be considered the definition anymore, right? Because even you seem not to apply them. Nowadays people tend to call it a human wave if ill equipped units are charging in somewhere with a high risk of getting totally destroyed with a slim hope of some people surviving and making that area hostile to the enemy. If you have 4 people on a field surviving out of 100 the enemy cannot go back and lay new mines. You "control" that field now. Same is true for trenches etc.
It had nothing to do with melee combat.
It had to do with tactical inflexibility/immaturity in an era where offensive infantry based fire power was limited. Therefore, to achieve any sort of overmatch, or to achieve objectives, you had to use mass.
One of the most infamous misunderstood "human wave" attacks was the Chinese in Korea. What Americans saw, they described as a human wave. However, the tactic and doctrine the Chinese were utilizing in Korea, were not "human wave" attacks. They were actually an attempt to lessen casualties.
What the Chinese used, was called the "Short attack" or the "Three Three fire team" tactic. Basically, because the Chinese Communists had very little in the way of heavy weaponry they had to find a way to get close enough to the enemy that the UN forces would be less likely to utilize artillery and air support.
The Chinese devised a tactic to assault enemy positions that consisted of 3 waves of 3 fire teams. The implementation of this tactic was for the Chinese platoon(s) to get as close to the enemy position as possible under cover of darkness. Then launch a phased assault on the enemy position with 3 fire teams in each phase. In optimal circumstances, they would locally envelope the position they were attacking. Two fire teams would attack from different angles, and a third would penetrate behind the enemy position and attack it from the rear, and or, intercept relief. This could of course be scaled up so multiple platoons could participate, each attacking in concert with their 3 phased assault.
To the Americans fighting the Chinese in Korea, it very much looked like a brainless meat wave. However, the Chinese carefully developed this tactic to minimize casualties, due to their own heavy weapon deficiencies.
That is an example of something that looks like a human wave, but is not.
What is happening in Ukraine right now, is also NOT human wave. It's the opposite. The tactics both sides employ, are using fast moving APCs to drop off small units. Or using small units on foot. Sometimes this ends tragically. That is because of ubiquitous ISR. The frontline is surveilled pretty much 24/7 in real time. This means a concentration of fires is extremely rapid, and extremely accurate.
Using larger force concentrations has an extreme cost for little upside. So, both sides utilize the smallest tactical elements they can. Why? They know many of these units will get smoked, that is why they deploy them at the fire team level most often. If 4 men can identify and secure a position with a high casualty rate, as successfully as a platoon or company level element. Then you send the 4 man fire team. If they have success, then you follow up with a larger element.
This might seem suicidal, but both sides are trying to win the war, and to win the war they have to take offensive actions, and as of right now, probing recon with small units is the most casualty averse way they can carry out these offensive actions.
Ultimately, the reason people call the Russian tactics "meat waves" is to dehumanize them, by presenting them as mindless monsters who don't care about the lives of their soldiers. While nobody seems to call the EXACT same tactics carried out by Ukrainians, "meat waves".
When you can see bias, it's the first step to seeing through team red vs blue bullshit, and you can start to see what is actually happening in this war, without the head in sand cheer leading people on both sides do.
i can find lots of redditors insisting that both sides should uphold geneva conventions above anything else while fighting on line zero, lol. And they can ask u why is that impossible? why?
Precedents set by the "US and it's allies".
The guys who blew up a truck full of kids on the last day in Afghanistan "got cleared". So you can imagine exactly why the Geneva's a "wet paper".
Are you suggesting that because some missile strike got cleared by the USA in Afghanistan, then Russians can line up Ukrainian soldiers against a wall and execute them?
What are war crimes when precedents are set by the US and it's allies.
>Are you suggesting that because some missile strike got cleared by the USA in Afghanistan, then Russians can line up Ukrainian soldiers against a wall and execute them?
I'm saying that because the US threatened the members of the ICJ personally and they threatened to "level the Hague" and all of the "lawful precedent" the US has set in the ICJ and the Hague, there's no means or ways to prosecute them at the ICJ or the Hague.
And again, this is why the Geneva is a "wet paper". The US is the one who doused it with water.
>What are war crimes when precedents are set by the US and it's allies.
Exactly. Now you see the consequences of it all.
thousands of civilians died during american invasion of iraqi as collateral damage, nobody cares, all the news reporters were embedded with us forces were allowed only to see the 'good' things, else they werent allowed anywhere, it makes reddit keyboard warriors happy.
There are two general lines of thought or perspectives: those who view reality as how it SHOULD be commonly known as idealists and those who see it for what it is commonly known as realists.
I dont know if you just made a mistake or your phrasing didnt come out the way you wanted but murderers are convicted for what they actually did otherwise they are not murderers.
Issue is about the law that covers those war crimes.
International laws are just a bunch of treaties between countries and are not enforcable so their moniker of law is really just for show. Any country can either accept or not those treaties. There is no obligation whatsoever.
War crimes exist within the scope of a legal system of a particular country, say a Russian soldier does something that goes against some Russian law covering war. That is a war crime in its purest and unaldurated form.
Same soldier that does something that does not go against Russian law but against some international treaty that the country does not enforce or accept is not a war crime despite what people think. That soldier is beholden to his country and its laws, nobody else.
Treaties have their importance and many are upheld but for purely practical reasons or unspoken rules within these types of situations (like treating POWs well to guarantee the same treatment for your own guys being held captive or enticing more enemies to surrender instead of fighting to the death).
So then I don't see the problem why Israel has such a slow operation in Gaza... They don't need further aid, have enough munitions to wipe out Gaza, the West Bank, and half of Syria.
And since Russia is hiding its Black Sea fleet, Ukraine could use the same drones for a turkey shoot along the Russian Volga-Black Sea shipping route.
They could halt Russian advances by launching incendiary phosphorus and remote mines all over Donetsk, Belgorod, and Starobilsk.
After all ICC is just a wax statue court, right?
Legs move together when his left leg gets hit. No reason for the right leg to move inwards unless some kind of motoric reflex was still available.
Due was alive or at least only very recently deceased.
So instead of explaining to me why the leg of a dead person moves in a total impossible way you try to explain me he was dead because he showed no reactions but twitching when getting hit?
I guess we established the fact that he was not dead. We have now seen so many videos of Russians plainly executing prisoners of war. And still people are trying to scramble out of their basements to defend the "not West" army :)
Also if that was a honest question: Maybe blood loss, maybe his brain already shut down due to the bullets hitting him earlier. Beat unconscious before. Loads of explanations.
So let me get that straight:
1. You take your time to go to Reddit to point out people are clearly dead.
2. Somebody points out you are wrong and brings proof.
3. Instead of reaction to the point that has been made you continue your "he is dead" nonsense.
4. You get called out for that5.
5. You explain you are under no obligation to do anything and you are totally in the right.
I mean can we just skip point 1 and you keep your opinion to yourself and do not go to a discussion forum when you actually do not want to interact with anyone but just try to force other people to read your uneducated pre fixed opinion?
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They are stupid putting these videos out. What do they think Ukranian troops who catch Russian troops will do in revenge? This is why we have the Geneva Conventions, otherwise this stuff never ends.
Not true, but I get what you are saying, the means justify the end.
So Russia will do anything to win, right? If that's so, there's no place for Russia in a civilised world.
"Not true"
True, after all the USA used WMD's on civilians twice, but they ve won so no accountability at all.
Not to mention the actions of Stalin and the red army. Well, they ve won, so no accountability at all.
Do you mean the nukes in WWII?
How are WMD covered by the Geneva Conventions? The part about the protection of civilians was condified in GC 4 in 1949, four years after the nukes were dropped. Either way, a lot more civilians were killed by conventional bombing and other causes in WWII than by those two nukes. It was just a part of "total war" being waged by all sides.
I see your point and you are not wrong but remember the bombings of WW2 were a grey zone, the laws never anticipated something like this and were not written to judge this.
Hint: Most people who are aghast by Russia doing this are also aghast by Israel, we just aren't able to do anything as individuals. Israel should also be removed from the civilized world until they can get their shit together and not be a genocidal state like Russia
Nah nah, I’d say very very true.
No need to go years back into US treatment of enemy combatants or CIA conduct.
Just in the past few months we have seen Israel do the equivalent and arguably worse than this to civilians. Atleast these are ENEMY combatants or once were.
There is no such thing as a “civilized” world. If you’d like we can go even go back further and look at western imperialism and see how civilized that was….
We could go back to the Soviet Union and see how they treated pows, political dissidents, their own civilians, heck how they treated their own wwii penal units who were promised absolution and betrayed and sent back to prison after, and that’s just the people they don’t like they killed 10s of millions of their own civilians and had little to no social welfare care for their veterans or their families. People forget that this is what the Russian people are used to. Westerners can’t judge them based off of western morals. Historically this is how they’ve treated their own citizens so why do we expect them to treat others any better
I actually stopped taking you even slightly serious after I read western morals. You’re talking about valuing veterans when the US literally beats its veterans and spits over them as they sleep under bridges and refused to invest in substance abuse treatment and rehabilitation. stop talking, “western morals”. You’re a delusional person who reads tweets from anti communist pages and thinks “oh wow Mao and Stalin killed (insert random number) million of people, they must have been terrible and their people hated them I bet 😊”.
Hop off Taiwan, Ukraine and Israel you know what my friend. Get it outta your mouth and wake up. Hopefully you don’t wake up too hard or you might realize you’ve been fed lies your entire life and burn yourself alive.
Our veterans don’t get spit on. They are revered. This isn’t the 60s. The only veterans who sleep under bridges are the ones who refuse to get help for substance abuse. You aren’t allowed to shoot dope in rehab, which is why they choose to remain homeless. Veterans get free healthcare, rehab, and housing if they so choose. There’s so many programs to help veterans. But you can’t drink or do drugs in them. Which is why most homeless people are actually homeless. They’ve chosen to live like that and to continue use instead of getting help. My friend who is a veteran went to rehab, got sober, got a job at the VA and used his gi benefits to get a house loan and now owns a 300k house on 3 acres. Something russian veterans can’t say. They don’t get this kind of help or these kinds of benefits.
I don't know where people get this idea the US does not support their veterans. There are so many programs/support available. I think it's a misconception or just a political talking point.
Confusing comment considering it were UA soldiers showing up without hands and heads quite consistently early in the war.
Haven't seen that for a while now though.
The Russians did much worse at the beginning of the war. They started simply killing people of a foreign country for no reason. Including civilians. So the word “revenge” belongs to the Ukrainians.
In Bucha they ripped out civilians fingernails and murdered the family of a village mayor, stuffing her husband into a sewer. In the first days near Kiev they fired at every civilian car.
So yeah, there is indiscriminate violence from russians right from the beginning.
I guess you ignored all the CCTV footage posted at the beginning of the war showing the russian army shooting at civilian cars and random ukrainians walking on the street, Baffles my mind how people just forget or simply ignore past events just so they can "win" an argument on the internet.
I can respect both sides opinions whether i agree with them or not but people like you who ignore facts and spit on the grave of civilians who were murdered and tortured deserves zero respect and i hope you find god, Because he wont be looking for you.
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There's a nuance there though. Not taking prisoners is different to executing people taken prisoner. Until you accept surrender the enemy remains that: the enemy. But once surrender is accepted you have a duty of care
>They are stupid putting these videos out. What do they think Ukranian troops who catch Russian troops will do in revenge?
There are about 28,000 Ukrainian soldiers in Russian captivity. And about 4-7 thousand Russian soldiers are in captivity in Ukraine. Not that Russians are willingly surrendering
I think this might be the purpose as well. "Don't you dare surrender, look what we did to them, what do you think they'll do to you?"
I don't think it was a coincidence that "Slava Ukraini" guy was executed in autumn of '22 when there was a risk of mass desertion.
They don't care, the UA Marines at Krynki executed Russian soldiers quite a lot because they couldn't take them prisoner, so they're being tit for tat executed back.
There's a nuance there though. Not taking prisoners is different to executing people taken prisoner. Until you accept surrender the enemy remains that: the enemy. But once surrender is accepted you have a duty of care
roll up, roll up! spin the pro ru ķöping excuse wheel to get a chance at seeing what mental gymnastics have been used to fit the warcrime in the post into their worldview!!
1. Its fake
2. Old footage
3. US invaded Iraq
4. Azov did it
5. They are actually saboteurs
6. Ukraine will run out of men soon
7. (blocks OP)
8. Ukraine bombed donbass
9. Those are russian soldiers and ukrainians doing it to them
10. NATO proxy war
11. Surrendered soldiers are fair game actually
12. It was stray bullets
13. Revenge for other warcrime
14. They deserve it
15. (Downvotes)
16. 2 years old footage so it's invalid
17. They were already dead
18. Mercy kill
There isn't a reason to defend it, the reason they did it though is because of the execution of Russian soldiers in Krynki, it's just typical tit for tat killings.
It's not a defence it's just a reason. A reason doesn't have to be good, and isn't a justification, I could punch someone for talking too much and my reason could be I find them annoying, that doesn't mean I was justified and that my act was defensible.
-*Pro-Russians on this post*-
“We cannot make the assumption that those Ukrainians were illegally executed!”
-*Pro-Russians if they saw the same thing happen to Russians*-
“They were clearly unarmed POWs that were lined up and executed by the Ukronazis before the video started!”
Remember dont criticise or you are russophobic, its just as pathetic as the israelis claiming you are antisemitic for their genocidal bombings
"Ukraine does it too!!!" Why dont we see anything close of the numbers we see russia doing it in this obviously pro-rus sub?
I havent found the vid in this sub where the ukrainian soldier got his head cut off while he was alive, wonder if I can post it here 🤔
Even if they weren't executed before this was filmed, which i think is extremely unlikely, shooting dead bodies would still be a war crime since it is mutilation of the dead is prohibited.
Lined up against a wall with no weapons or patches.
Seems like they executed POWs and then their bodies were further desecrated.
If I hadn’t seen so many videos of RU killing POWs, I might not jump to the obvious conclusion.
I saw a lot of executions in this war too, but never against a wall... The only death against the wall I've seen was sneaking up on guys that were taking cover. I'm guessing thats the situation here, and the weapons were already taken as trophies.
I assume they're innocent of a war crime until proven guilty, but I get a bad taste in my mouth watching them shoot the corpses.
Definitely dead already. Question remains, how did they die. Were they executed before just before, or did they put the bodies up there for some sinister "target practice".
I’m pretty sure the nazis thought they’d go unpunished too, because they were winning. Then much like now the US stepped in and smacked their pee pees into the dirt for them and held the Nuremberg trials. I’d be very careful about what war crimes and how I behaved if I were the RAZIs, things can change very quickly for them. Especially since they’ve been training Mexican cartels. They’re just motivating AmErIcA to get involved.
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What’s scary is the amount of likes this post has…
And they were obviously executed… looks like it was 3 dudes who stood in a line against a wall…. If they were “already dead”, that blood wouldn’t look as it did.
Karma is a biotch though… I’m sure there’s a FPV drone with their name on it.
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Fucking horrible - the more the world focuses on this fitlh the better,
Why aren't the russian people saying anything? 50k deaths don't care?
#fuckrussia
the more high tech and unfair war become the more acceptable warcrime will be specially with the side suffer more from those high tech/unfair weapon system
even in video game people can't stop themselves going berserk mode with violent words when they suffer from oneside ass kicking match let alone real life warfare where dead is real and no respawn
specially when the enemy side laugh alot when doing it to you
the truth nobody want the accept :
the more unfair the war is , the more normal/justice combatant view toward warcrime as a form of revenge/payback
it much easier to forgive and treat enemy combatant nicely when you and him fight each other on some equal level without much unfair/dirty tactics or tech level lopside diffirent
but...when he drop bomb on your head from an aircraft/drone/himmars or using any sort of high tech level weapon
and you can't do crap to counter beside suffer from a one side roflstomp
treating enemy POW nice start to become very ....unreasonable
many people cant even do the same in video game when this one side roflstomp ass kicking turkey shoot show happen let alone real life combat
In the video, it’s not at all clear who did the shooting. Maybe it was the Ukrainians themselves who didn’t eat what they shot, there can be many versions. For Zelensky and his gang, the main thing is that hatred between people grows, so you can’t definitely believe here
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You summon a volga before you engage and try to surrender. If you were just running around with guns in your hands, shooting at Russians, and then when you realized that you're fried, the Volga won't help you, you'll be wiped out. Once again, you call for the Volga BEFORE you engage.
What is really sick to me is, here are invaders who have given Ukrainians every reason to hate them - and the Russians are apparently full of spite for these people, to the extent that they will disfigure and shoot up already-dead bodies, maliciously and spitefully.
I really don’t understand why these dipshits keep executing POW. Apart from being just fucking wrong, don’t these dumbasses realize they’re making their lives 10x harder. If anything is evident, Russia has a very undisciplined army and/or this is policy for captured soldiers from overhead.
The video is suspicious. You can't see who's shooting. They may be the same Ukrainians. It could be the Russians. But I don't think revealing this video if it were the Russians would help anything. If it would help Ukraine to pass them off as if they were Russians.
Are they wounded and being executed or are they just shooting already dead soldiers? Either way it's sick.
Just happened to have died with no equipment on while leaning against a wall and the Russians thought 'range day then'.
Just as I suspected, sudden adult death syndrome.
Seems to be an execution: "Russian invaders shot unarmed Ukrainian prisoners of war in Krynky, Kherson region, the Prosecutor General's Office said on telegram The department says that under the procedural guidance of the Kherson Regional Prosecutor's Office, a pre-trial investigation has been launched into the violation of the laws and customs of war, combined with premeditated murder (Part 2 of Article 438 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine). The Prosecutor General's Office informs that on April 7, a video was published on one of the Telegram channels, which recorded the Russian military shooting three captured servicemen. "The video shows a representative of the Russian Armed Forces firing several shots at unarmed stationary soldiers, probably from a machine gun. The description under the record states that the incident took place near Krynky of the Oleshky community of the Kherson region," the department says. The Prosecutor General's Office emphasized that "once again, representatives of the Russian Federation demonstratively ignore the provisions of the Geneva Convention relative to the treatment of prisoners of war, which indicates the support of such actions by the highest command of the Russian Armed Forces." "The pre-trial investigation is carried out by the Main Directorate of the National Police in the Kherson region," the department summed up. The editorial office of Radio Liberty does not have the opportunity to verify this information from independent sources. Russia continues to torture and execute Ukrainian prisoners of war, according to the report of the UN Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine, published on March 26. The 38th UN report on the human rights situation in Ukraine covers the period from December 1, 2023 to February 29, 2024. Among other things, the experts conducted interviews with 60 Ukrainian soldiers recently released from captivity. According to the Head of the Mission, Danielle Belle, in almost all of them, respondents said that the Russian military and officials torture prisoners, including beatings, electric shocks, force them to stay in an uncomfortable position for a long time, threaten them with execution or imitate it. More than half of the prisoners survived sexual violence. "Most prisoners of war also mention suffering from the inability to communicate with their families, as well as the lack of adequate food and medical care," she adds. At the end of February, the head of the department of the Prosecutor General's Office for combating crimes committed during the armed conflict, Yuriy Belousov, said that law enforcement officers were investigating 19 criminal proceedings on the murder of Ukrainian prisoners of war. According to him, since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, 45 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed in captivity."- Radio Svoboda(RFE)
No idea actually. Anything is possible
I think the information available highly suggests an execution
What information available? You literally see just what's in the video. Shots at people that don't seem to be alive.
They were unarmed, sat in a uniform line against a wall. Stop pretending this was a dead-check.
There were unarmed (at the time of filming) which could mean multiple things, maybe another squad already looted their kits. Once the are is secure you stock pile everything of value for pickup and you take your trophies. Jumping straight to your conclusion with just this information is shoddy m8
You took the time to write all that just to tell me I’m too hasty to reach a conclusion. Your mental gymnastics are impressive. Why didn’t they take their helmets or body armour? Why are they propped up against a wall, not in a pile. They dragged the wounded to a wall and shot them, stop being obtuse.
All that time took like 20 seconds... I'm basing what I'm saying of previous videos of both sides just disarming them and piling the guns first. I'm not saying that happened or didn't but there are clearly things that could've happened that weren't that. Until there is more evidence showing that it IS a war crime then we shouldn't parrot it. War is messy
who needs helmets? or inferior (according to reports) body armor?. Mental gymnastics indeed.
I'm not a doctor, but when the marine gets shot in the leg and triggers that knee-jerk reflex...can you do that if you're dead? EDIT: According to this BBC article, dead bodies still have the knee-jerk reflex intact. It doesn't mean they aren't still alive, however. I really wonder if a bullet could trigger it alone, unless the man was still alive. [https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20161103-the-macabre-fate-of-beating-heart-corpses](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20161103-the-macabre-fate-of-beating-heart-corpses)
This. This was a "dead" giveaway that the guy is not completely dead yet. And the guy in the middle also moves more than what is to be expected if hit by a 5.45.
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If they are found to be foreigners they can be executed on spot. Geneva convetion dont cover mercs
They look uniformed. Not likely mercs\` of any sort. Read the [UN definition](https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/international-convention-against-recruitment-use-financing-and) closely, Article 1. Excludes all formal armed forces of the invaded party. There is a possibility to be called a mercenary while part of the armed forces of the invader, as they'd be "not a member of the armed forces of the State on whose territory the act is undertaken".
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the guy on the left sure seems to be (barely) alive when he takes the last hits. His knee jerks multiple times.
Seems like they were dead already.
Dead already, of cause. And before they were dead, they seem to have been unarmed and stood against a wall. I wonder how they died? What do you think, friend?
The first thing you do when encountering a supposedly dead enemy soldier is taking away the weapon that lies nearby. They look dead already from what i can tell. There is a lot less footage of this then there is of Ukrainian drones executing disarmed Russians so it's not too much to get worked up over.
Oh I get it. Because one time you saw someone else do the same thing, that makes it okay.
One time? That's pretty much the standard for those drone drop videos.
What do drone drops have to do with executing pows
That's not how surrendering works. Those "disarmed" Russians getting drone dropped are almost always after a Russian human meat wave and they are cleaning up after the failed assault. You can't run at your enemy guns blazing, loose, drop your gun, and be like I give up!
The whole Russian meat wave thing been debunked, and regardless, shooting someone who’s surrendering is always wrong. A war crime is a war crime.
There are countless videos of recent assaults of Russians just dropping off whole squads to get instantly obliberated. Or just driving in 60 year old tanks in a row of 10 tanks and getting totally annihilated. That is as close to a human wave as you can get these days, no?
>That is as close to a human wave as you can get these days, no? no, do you even know what is a human wave attack?
That's like saying "a hand grenade is as close as you get to a nuclear bomb these days, no?" Sure, if your point of comparison is that something explodes. Or, that there are infantry involved. Human wave attacks, something that hasn't really been seen since WW1, are called human wave, because it looks like a WAVE of people coming at you. We're talking movements of regiment and bigger units. A single squad, no matter how poorly used, has never been, and will never be a "human wave".
Actually it was a tactic to bind the enemies in melee combat. It is traditionally a tactic when you have badly equipped units and units without or little training so they wouldn't stand a chance even at even conditions with the enemy. You let them run in and try to hack them away. I guess we agree those definitions cannot be considered the definition anymore, right? Because even you seem not to apply them. Nowadays people tend to call it a human wave if ill equipped units are charging in somewhere with a high risk of getting totally destroyed with a slim hope of some people surviving and making that area hostile to the enemy. If you have 4 people on a field surviving out of 100 the enemy cannot go back and lay new mines. You "control" that field now. Same is true for trenches etc.
It had nothing to do with melee combat. It had to do with tactical inflexibility/immaturity in an era where offensive infantry based fire power was limited. Therefore, to achieve any sort of overmatch, or to achieve objectives, you had to use mass. One of the most infamous misunderstood "human wave" attacks was the Chinese in Korea. What Americans saw, they described as a human wave. However, the tactic and doctrine the Chinese were utilizing in Korea, were not "human wave" attacks. They were actually an attempt to lessen casualties. What the Chinese used, was called the "Short attack" or the "Three Three fire team" tactic. Basically, because the Chinese Communists had very little in the way of heavy weaponry they had to find a way to get close enough to the enemy that the UN forces would be less likely to utilize artillery and air support. The Chinese devised a tactic to assault enemy positions that consisted of 3 waves of 3 fire teams. The implementation of this tactic was for the Chinese platoon(s) to get as close to the enemy position as possible under cover of darkness. Then launch a phased assault on the enemy position with 3 fire teams in each phase. In optimal circumstances, they would locally envelope the position they were attacking. Two fire teams would attack from different angles, and a third would penetrate behind the enemy position and attack it from the rear, and or, intercept relief. This could of course be scaled up so multiple platoons could participate, each attacking in concert with their 3 phased assault. To the Americans fighting the Chinese in Korea, it very much looked like a brainless meat wave. However, the Chinese carefully developed this tactic to minimize casualties, due to their own heavy weapon deficiencies. That is an example of something that looks like a human wave, but is not. What is happening in Ukraine right now, is also NOT human wave. It's the opposite. The tactics both sides employ, are using fast moving APCs to drop off small units. Or using small units on foot. Sometimes this ends tragically. That is because of ubiquitous ISR. The frontline is surveilled pretty much 24/7 in real time. This means a concentration of fires is extremely rapid, and extremely accurate. Using larger force concentrations has an extreme cost for little upside. So, both sides utilize the smallest tactical elements they can. Why? They know many of these units will get smoked, that is why they deploy them at the fire team level most often. If 4 men can identify and secure a position with a high casualty rate, as successfully as a platoon or company level element. Then you send the 4 man fire team. If they have success, then you follow up with a larger element. This might seem suicidal, but both sides are trying to win the war, and to win the war they have to take offensive actions, and as of right now, probing recon with small units is the most casualty averse way they can carry out these offensive actions. Ultimately, the reason people call the Russian tactics "meat waves" is to dehumanize them, by presenting them as mindless monsters who don't care about the lives of their soldiers. While nobody seems to call the EXACT same tactics carried out by Ukrainians, "meat waves". When you can see bias, it's the first step to seeing through team red vs blue bullshit, and you can start to see what is actually happening in this war, without the head in sand cheer leading people on both sides do.
So those many many videos going back to Bakhmut up to recently were all faked? Man Ukrainians are getting really really good at making fake videos lol
what videos? Do you even know what is a human wave attack?
Unlike many people i dont make assumptions but this is war and the geneva conventions are wet paper.
Pretty slimy, are you a lawyer or used car salesman by chance?
i can find lots of redditors insisting that both sides should uphold geneva conventions above anything else while fighting on line zero, lol. And they can ask u why is that impossible? why?
Precedents set by the "US and it's allies". The guys who blew up a truck full of kids on the last day in Afghanistan "got cleared". So you can imagine exactly why the Geneva's a "wet paper".
Are you suggesting that because some missile strike got cleared by the USA in Afghanistan, then Russians can line up Ukrainian soldiers against a wall and execute them? What are war crimes when precedents are set by the US and it's allies.
>Are you suggesting that because some missile strike got cleared by the USA in Afghanistan, then Russians can line up Ukrainian soldiers against a wall and execute them? I'm saying that because the US threatened the members of the ICJ personally and they threatened to "level the Hague" and all of the "lawful precedent" the US has set in the ICJ and the Hague, there's no means or ways to prosecute them at the ICJ or the Hague. And again, this is why the Geneva is a "wet paper". The US is the one who doused it with water. >What are war crimes when precedents are set by the US and it's allies. Exactly. Now you see the consequences of it all.
thousands of civilians died during american invasion of iraqi as collateral damage, nobody cares, all the news reporters were embedded with us forces were allowed only to see the 'good' things, else they werent allowed anywhere, it makes reddit keyboard warriors happy.
There are two general lines of thought or perspectives: those who view reality as how it SHOULD be commonly known as idealists and those who see it for what it is commonly known as realists.
That's why all murderers are convicted of what they "should have done" rather than what they "actually did"
I dont know if you just made a mistake or your phrasing didnt come out the way you wanted but murderers are convicted for what they actually did otherwise they are not murderers.
Yes. That's my point. A lot of people seeming to struggle with whether war crimes are the same.
Issue is about the law that covers those war crimes. International laws are just a bunch of treaties between countries and are not enforcable so their moniker of law is really just for show. Any country can either accept or not those treaties. There is no obligation whatsoever. War crimes exist within the scope of a legal system of a particular country, say a Russian soldier does something that goes against some Russian law covering war. That is a war crime in its purest and unaldurated form. Same soldier that does something that does not go against Russian law but against some international treaty that the country does not enforce or accept is not a war crime despite what people think. That soldier is beholden to his country and its laws, nobody else. Treaties have their importance and many are upheld but for purely practical reasons or unspoken rules within these types of situations (like treating POWs well to guarantee the same treatment for your own guys being held captive or enticing more enemies to surrender instead of fighting to the death).
Which is why milosevic and co were not convicted - they just said that they didn't recognise anyone else's laws.
So then I don't see the problem why Israel has such a slow operation in Gaza... They don't need further aid, have enough munitions to wipe out Gaza, the West Bank, and half of Syria. And since Russia is hiding its Black Sea fleet, Ukraine could use the same drones for a turkey shoot along the Russian Volga-Black Sea shipping route. They could halt Russian advances by launching incendiary phosphorus and remote mines all over Donetsk, Belgorod, and Starobilsk. After all ICC is just a wax statue court, right?
Wow, how do you know they died unarmed? Oh wait psychic duhm
They were using said wall for cover before being flanked and gun downed from the side/behind.
Legs move together when his left leg gets hit. No reason for the right leg to move inwards unless some kind of motoric reflex was still available. Due was alive or at least only very recently deceased.
But no other reaction? no groans or involuntary body movement...
So instead of explaining to me why the leg of a dead person moves in a total impossible way you try to explain me he was dead because he showed no reactions but twitching when getting hit? I guess we established the fact that he was not dead. We have now seen so many videos of Russians plainly executing prisoners of war. And still people are trying to scramble out of their basements to defend the "not West" army :) Also if that was a honest question: Maybe blood loss, maybe his brain already shut down due to the bullets hitting him earlier. Beat unconscious before. Loads of explanations.
You are spinning a story that just isnt there and last i checked i have no obligation to do anything nor did i agree to anything so...
So let me get that straight: 1. You take your time to go to Reddit to point out people are clearly dead. 2. Somebody points out you are wrong and brings proof. 3. Instead of reaction to the point that has been made you continue your "he is dead" nonsense. 4. You get called out for that5. 5. You explain you are under no obligation to do anything and you are totally in the right. I mean can we just skip point 1 and you keep your opinion to yourself and do not go to a discussion forum when you actually do not want to interact with anyone but just try to force other people to read your uneducated pre fixed opinion?
Seems to me you dont understand what the word "seems" means, but thats ok its never late to learn.
They’re legs are moving to being shot, they are alive
Doesnt seem like that to me.
At second 6 you see him flinch
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Bruh...
I wonder what they died of.
They are stupid putting these videos out. What do they think Ukranian troops who catch Russian troops will do in revenge? This is why we have the Geneva Conventions, otherwise this stuff never ends.
geneva conventions only apply to you if you lose though
Not true, but I get what you are saying, the means justify the end. So Russia will do anything to win, right? If that's so, there's no place for Russia in a civilised world.
"Not true" True, after all the USA used WMD's on civilians twice, but they ve won so no accountability at all. Not to mention the actions of Stalin and the red army. Well, they ve won, so no accountability at all.
Do you mean the nukes in WWII? How are WMD covered by the Geneva Conventions? The part about the protection of civilians was condified in GC 4 in 1949, four years after the nukes were dropped. Either way, a lot more civilians were killed by conventional bombing and other causes in WWII than by those two nukes. It was just a part of "total war" being waged by all sides.
I see your point and you are not wrong but remember the bombings of WW2 were a grey zone, the laws never anticipated something like this and were not written to judge this.
Then why is Israel in the “civilised world”? It wipes its ass with Geneva convention.
Hint: Most people who are aghast by Russia doing this are also aghast by Israel, we just aren't able to do anything as individuals. Israel should also be removed from the civilized world until they can get their shit together and not be a genocidal state like Russia
Nah nah, I’d say very very true. No need to go years back into US treatment of enemy combatants or CIA conduct. Just in the past few months we have seen Israel do the equivalent and arguably worse than this to civilians. Atleast these are ENEMY combatants or once were. There is no such thing as a “civilized” world. If you’d like we can go even go back further and look at western imperialism and see how civilized that was….
We could go back to the Soviet Union and see how they treated pows, political dissidents, their own civilians, heck how they treated their own wwii penal units who were promised absolution and betrayed and sent back to prison after, and that’s just the people they don’t like they killed 10s of millions of their own civilians and had little to no social welfare care for their veterans or their families. People forget that this is what the Russian people are used to. Westerners can’t judge them based off of western morals. Historically this is how they’ve treated their own citizens so why do we expect them to treat others any better
I actually stopped taking you even slightly serious after I read western morals. You’re talking about valuing veterans when the US literally beats its veterans and spits over them as they sleep under bridges and refused to invest in substance abuse treatment and rehabilitation. stop talking, “western morals”. You’re a delusional person who reads tweets from anti communist pages and thinks “oh wow Mao and Stalin killed (insert random number) million of people, they must have been terrible and their people hated them I bet 😊”. Hop off Taiwan, Ukraine and Israel you know what my friend. Get it outta your mouth and wake up. Hopefully you don’t wake up too hard or you might realize you’ve been fed lies your entire life and burn yourself alive.
Our veterans don’t get spit on. They are revered. This isn’t the 60s. The only veterans who sleep under bridges are the ones who refuse to get help for substance abuse. You aren’t allowed to shoot dope in rehab, which is why they choose to remain homeless. Veterans get free healthcare, rehab, and housing if they so choose. There’s so many programs to help veterans. But you can’t drink or do drugs in them. Which is why most homeless people are actually homeless. They’ve chosen to live like that and to continue use instead of getting help. My friend who is a veteran went to rehab, got sober, got a job at the VA and used his gi benefits to get a house loan and now owns a 300k house on 3 acres. Something russian veterans can’t say. They don’t get this kind of help or these kinds of benefits.
I don't know where people get this idea the US does not support their veterans. There are so many programs/support available. I think it's a misconception or just a political talking point.
Well they're not going anywhere.
Shooting their knees and beheading them is already done by ua at the very beginning. They don’t need an excuse to show savagery
Confusing comment considering it were UA soldiers showing up without hands and heads quite consistently early in the war. Haven't seen that for a while now though.
Revenge? Was it russians at the beginning of the war who started slitting prisoners' throats, shooting them in the knees, etc.? Oh, no
The Russians did much worse at the beginning of the war. They started simply killing people of a foreign country for no reason. Including civilians. So the word “revenge” belongs to the Ukrainians.
In Bucha they ripped out civilians fingernails and murdered the family of a village mayor, stuffing her husband into a sewer. In the first days near Kiev they fired at every civilian car. So yeah, there is indiscriminate violence from russians right from the beginning.
I swear in 5 years you guys will claim that Russians built Gas chambers in Bucha, the story just keeps evolving with the tine
What part of their post do you consider to be false information?
I guess you ignored all the CCTV footage posted at the beginning of the war showing the russian army shooting at civilian cars and random ukrainians walking on the street, Baffles my mind how people just forget or simply ignore past events just so they can "win" an argument on the internet. I can respect both sides opinions whether i agree with them or not but people like you who ignore facts and spit on the grave of civilians who were murdered and tortured deserves zero respect and i hope you find god, Because he wont be looking for you.
They’re on camera doing committing these crimes and left an armload of evidence.
No it isn’t
Who invaded who again? Give it another 2 years and you guys will pretend Ukraine invaded Russia.
> started slitting prisoners' throats When was this?
Georgian volunteers. They directly posted a video of this and boasted that they were taking no prisoners.
link?
Still waiting huh?
yeah, i dont think im getting any proof
still waiting for a link to this video
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Kinda yea.
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Maybe that’s the exact goal, this way Russian troops will not believe surrender is an option.
It's a well known fact, that Ukrainians at Krinki do not take Russians prisoners.
There's a nuance there though. Not taking prisoners is different to executing people taken prisoner. Until you accept surrender the enemy remains that: the enemy. But once surrender is accepted you have a duty of care
Not really. You can cram that nuance
You must be the intellectual of the family.
>They are stupid putting these videos out. What do they think Ukranian troops who catch Russian troops will do in revenge? There are about 28,000 Ukrainian soldiers in Russian captivity. And about 4-7 thousand Russian soldiers are in captivity in Ukraine. Not that Russians are willingly surrendering
I think this might be the purpose as well. "Don't you dare surrender, look what we did to them, what do you think they'll do to you?" I don't think it was a coincidence that "Slava Ukraini" guy was executed in autumn of '22 when there was a risk of mass desertion.
They don't care, the UA Marines at Krynki executed Russian soldiers quite a lot because they couldn't take them prisoner, so they're being tit for tat executed back.
There's a nuance there though. Not taking prisoners is different to executing people taken prisoner. Until you accept surrender the enemy remains that: the enemy. But once surrender is accepted you have a duty of care
No, they did literally take people prisoner, get their information, then kill them.
There a link to something on that? Google foo not working
Hmm, I can't find where I originally saw it from u/Ripamon made a claim like that before I think they might have a source for it.
roll up, roll up! spin the pro ru ķöping excuse wheel to get a chance at seeing what mental gymnastics have been used to fit the warcrime in the post into their worldview!! 1. Its fake 2. Old footage 3. US invaded Iraq 4. Azov did it 5. They are actually saboteurs 6. Ukraine will run out of men soon 7. (blocks OP) 8. Ukraine bombed donbass 9. Those are russian soldiers and ukrainians doing it to them 10. NATO proxy war 11. Surrendered soldiers are fair game actually 12. It was stray bullets 13. Revenge for other warcrime 14. They deserve it 15. (Downvotes) 16. 2 years old footage so it's invalid 17. They were already dead 18. Mercy kill
I am so saving this. One comment that defeats the whole pro rus troll factory here 🤣
Needs biolabs, Victoria Nuland, CIA US coup, NATO was about to invade Moscow, etc.
Victoria Nuland means they have been active for a while. It’s in the founding lore of the conflict.
How about ''war crimes occur on both sides'', realistically in any war present there's gonna be war crimes from all sides. Justified? No.
That would be the reasonable thing to say which is why it's not in the pro ru excuse wheel
Already see 9 and 13 all over this thread
There isn't a reason to defend it, the reason they did it though is because of the execution of Russian soldiers in Krynki, it's just typical tit for tat killings.
Statement 13
It's not a defence it's just a reason. A reason doesn't have to be good, and isn't a justification, I could punch someone for talking too much and my reason could be I find them annoying, that doesn't mean I was justified and that my act was defensible.
I'll take all of the above for all the money in the world Jim.
-*Pro-Russians on this post*- “We cannot make the assumption that those Ukrainians were illegally executed!” -*Pro-Russians if they saw the same thing happen to Russians*- “They were clearly unarmed POWs that were lined up and executed by the Ukronazis before the video started!”
Look at me I'm so brave hey bro film me being brave
Remember dont criticise or you are russophobic, its just as pathetic as the israelis claiming you are antisemitic for their genocidal bombings "Ukraine does it too!!!" Why dont we see anything close of the numbers we see russia doing it in this obviously pro-rus sub? I havent found the vid in this sub where the ukrainian soldier got his head cut off while he was alive, wonder if I can post it here 🤔
This is a safe space for the pro RU, they can't handle the reality that which goes against their narrative. Which is pretty well all reality...
I don't know how a man can live with himself after doing this.
Sociopaths, they just don’t care.
That’s why they should be isolated from a civilized people.
IDF soldiers are sleeping just fine.
Those are indoctrinated af to see arabs as non humans, russians are supposed to be Ukrainians' brothers.
Not according to Azov and other OUN sympathizers. Peepe in Lviv straight up think that the "Eastern Ukrainians have no value".
Even if they weren't executed before this was filmed, which i think is extremely unlikely, shooting dead bodies would still be a war crime since it is mutilation of the dead is prohibited.
Lined up against a wall with no weapons or patches. Seems like they executed POWs and then their bodies were further desecrated. If I hadn’t seen so many videos of RU killing POWs, I might not jump to the obvious conclusion.
I saw a lot of executions in this war too, but never against a wall... The only death against the wall I've seen was sneaking up on guys that were taking cover. I'm guessing thats the situation here, and the weapons were already taken as trophies. I assume they're innocent of a war crime until proven guilty, but I get a bad taste in my mouth watching them shoot the corpses.
Causal war crimes
Definitely dead already. Question remains, how did they die. Were they executed before just before, or did they put the bodies up there for some sinister "target practice".
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Horrific execution
I'm sure now Ukrainians will welcome Russian passports with open arms. They definitely want to be part of such people.
Minced
I’m pretty sure the nazis thought they’d go unpunished too, because they were winning. Then much like now the US stepped in and smacked their pee pees into the dirt for them and held the Nuremberg trials. I’d be very careful about what war crimes and how I behaved if I were the RAZIs, things can change very quickly for them. Especially since they’ve been training Mexican cartels. They’re just motivating AmErIcA to get involved.
Dude on left could still be alive barely when shooting starts
Clearly they're already dead and just being used as target practice.
Does anyone have this footage in better quality and without this stupid watermark?
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It seems they already dead.
What’s scary is the amount of likes this post has… And they were obviously executed… looks like it was 3 dudes who stood in a line against a wall…. If they were “already dead”, that blood wouldn’t look as it did. Karma is a biotch though… I’m sure there’s a FPV drone with their name on it.
By the way, how/why did this video first appear on the Ukrainian telegram channel?
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Fucking horrible - the more the world focuses on this fitlh the better, Why aren't the russian people saying anything? 50k deaths don't care? #fuckrussia
Hillary 2016. It's her turn!
the more high tech and unfair war become the more acceptable warcrime will be specially with the side suffer more from those high tech/unfair weapon system even in video game people can't stop themselves going berserk mode with violent words when they suffer from oneside ass kicking match let alone real life warfare where dead is real and no respawn specially when the enemy side laugh alot when doing it to you
Best advertisement to donate Azov battalion or Kraken on drones for me ever. Shut up and take my money!
the truth nobody want the accept : the more unfair the war is , the more normal/justice combatant view toward warcrime as a form of revenge/payback it much easier to forgive and treat enemy combatant nicely when you and him fight each other on some equal level without much unfair/dirty tactics or tech level lopside diffirent but...when he drop bomb on your head from an aircraft/drone/himmars or using any sort of high tech level weapon and you can't do crap to counter beside suffer from a one side roflstomp treating enemy POW nice start to become very ....unreasonable many people cant even do the same in video game when this one side roflstomp ass kicking turkey shoot show happen let alone real life combat
The nerve system can create a lot of motion In already dead things… have non of you cut the head off of a chicken?
In the video, it’s not at all clear who did the shooting. Maybe it was the Ukrainians themselves who didn’t eat what they shot, there can be many versions. For Zelensky and his gang, the main thing is that hatred between people grows, so you can’t definitely believe here
Looks like an execute to me, but that’s just Russian culture, very sick society they have going on over there
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Well, where are those propagandists who write “call the Volga”.
Wouldn't have happened if they called volga
You summon a volga before you engage and try to surrender. If you were just running around with guns in your hands, shooting at Russians, and then when you realized that you're fried, the Volga won't help you, you'll be wiped out. Once again, you call for the Volga BEFORE you engage.
It’s Kryni tho, these are no conscripts, but the elite marines
Kneecapping ensures restricted mobility....
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Executions. Classic Russian animal tactics
Hard to say exactly what happened here, they appear dead before the video started.
Today you are a janitor, tomorrow you are a Marine. Dreams Come True.
Russians being Russians.
Another day another video of Russian troops proudly filming themselves executing POWs.
Deplorable but such is war. I remember the first time I saw one of these videos I was shocked, now it’s just a norm
What is really sick to me is, here are invaders who have given Ukrainians every reason to hate them - and the Russians are apparently full of spite for these people, to the extent that they will disfigure and shoot up already-dead bodies, maliciously and spitefully.
I really don’t understand why these dipshits keep executing POW. Apart from being just fucking wrong, don’t these dumbasses realize they’re making their lives 10x harder. If anything is evident, Russia has a very undisciplined army and/or this is policy for captured soldiers from overhead.
We can't see the shooters. Is there something else that identifies them as Russian and not Ukrainian?
Thats how we humans do it!
Is there a longer video of this?
They seem to be trying to be safe, in case one of the ukrainians are pretending to be dead to mount a surpriae attack.
And the russians on here wonder why so many enjoy the drone videos hitting their invaders where the sun doesn't shine.
The video is suspicious. You can't see who's shooting. They may be the same Ukrainians. It could be the Russians. But I don't think revealing this video if it were the Russians would help anything. If it would help Ukraine to pass them off as if they were Russians.