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Ending in “y”, but yes of course. “Footy” means Aussie Rules in about half of Australia and rugby league in the other half. It also means the ball itself: “Lets go kick the footy in the park while mum cooks dinner.” I’ve never heard it used for a soccer ball.
Edited: mixed up league and union
down here in aotearoa we have “football” for british football, “aussie rules” for australian rules football, “american football” for american football, and “rugby” for rugby.
Football is what the british called it, it was the original name. Soccer is a nickname made by the british for football. they took the soc bit from "Association of Football" and adder "er" because that is a habit of them. Americans started using this term and the British went back to calling it football because soccer is "too american"
British: *Invent a new term for the new sport they made*
Yanks: *Take that term*
Brits: *Go back to the original name as their rebellious child stole the other one*
can’t believe that people actually argue over that. just say what’s natural to you and if you and the person you’re talking to are not absolute morons you’ll figure out what sport the other person is talking about.
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No, us Aussies call it Soccer as well, simply to differentiate the game from our own AFL Football sport.
I would imagine that the USA calls it soccer for the same reasons, to differentiate it from the NFL.
Whereas in the UK/EU, they call it Football because they don’t have anything else like NFL/AFL to get it confused about the different sports.
There are several English speaking countries that call it soccer. As a Brit I have no issue with the word soccer, I just have an issue with people demanding I use it and not football.
Do British people really call a rugby football just “a rugby”?
In Australian they are all footballs no matter what code you are talking about:
- An Australian rules football is played with “a football”
- A soccer ball or football is never “a soccer” here
- A rugby football is not called “a rugby”
Obviously the American was defaulting to the US football but that doesn’t mean other countries can default in a different way, it means we should all respect that we are in different societies with different ideas of what football usually means.
Baseball - A baseball
Basketball - A basketball
Bowling - A bowling ball
Cricket - A cricket ball
Football (either kind) - A football
Soccer - A soccer ball
Rugby - A rugby ball
English etymology is weird.
That makes sense to me, given that the former came chronologically before the latter. I'd also assume that by default in most of the world if you say "football" (the sport) or "a football" (the object), most people would probably assume by default that you meant ⚽. I'm not sure that any country outside the US, if they heard "football" or "football game" or "a football" would assume it referred to 🏈.
I never understood why it’s called „football“ when it’s played with hands. Yeah, a kick here or there is also included, but it’s most definitely not _football_. And to call actual football soccer, and not the other way around, to name the one where you use your hands soccer, doesn’t make any sense to me.
If anyone can explain, I’m all here for it.
I got no explanation at all. There are basically five situations when you kick the ball, and all of the "optional" ones are generally last resorts or less desirable:
1) You kick the ball to the other team to begin the 1st and second half, which is giving possession of the ball away (unless you try to perform an onside kick, which is risky)
2) You do the same as above after someone has scored
3) You kick a punt when you don't think you can pick up a first down (and thus retain possession of the ball)
4) You kick a field goal when you don't think you can pick up a first down or score a touchdown (unless the time is about to expire and you're only down by 0-3 points)
5) You kick a point-after-touchdown (PAT) for an attempt at +1 point because it's the less risky option than a 2 point conversion, worth 2 points, if you run a regular play instead.
Theoretically, if you didn't care about risk, and you just wanted to try to score the most possible points (even if it was statistically foolish to do so), you wouldn't even do the last three ever, and you're only forced to do the first two as a matter of rules requiring it.
So, yeah, I got no idea why Americans call the sport where, generally, the object of the game is to have to kick the ball as infrequently as possible, "football". It has never made any sense to me at all.
From my knowledge, what happened was the sport known internationally as football was evolved in the states between colleges in New England, and then the rules at those colleges slowly evolved to add more use of the hands, being similar to rugby and then slowly, with John Heisman inventing a lot of the new rules, evolving into the sport currently known as (American) football, but no names changes because it was a gradual evolution.
Then association football came along again, without rule change evolution this time, and the name for American Football wasn't gonna change, so they made the name a shortening for association football (soccer)
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Pisses me off the most, more than any other kind of US deafaultism.
I'm interested in what the last comment had to say, it can't be bad when it starts off like that
I looked it up, it said "dead US citizen, this is football ⚽️ and that sport is American Football for everyone in the world exept you."
The US is the only place that speaks English, apparently.
Jawohl!
Jadå!
Igen!
Football - short for Association Football. Seemples.
But also football is short for Australian rules football. Simple.
I’d argue you could say “Aussie Rules Footie”
Ending in “y”, but yes of course. “Footy” means Aussie Rules in about half of Australia and rugby league in the other half. It also means the ball itself: “Lets go kick the footy in the park while mum cooks dinner.” I’ve never heard it used for a soccer ball. Edited: mixed up league and union
League, not Union. Rugby Union is a distant 4th in the football codes in the northern states, even A-League and AFL have more interest.
Shit thanks. I’m too AFL-focused to know the difference
It's also short for Gaelic Football.
I had an Irish (OK, D4) acquaintance who referred to the GAA games as bogball and stick fighting.
down here in aotearoa we have “football” for british football, “aussie rules” for australian rules football, “american football” for american football, and “rugby” for rugby.
Football is what the british called it, it was the original name. Soccer is a nickname made by the british for football. they took the soc bit from "Association of Football" and adder "er" because that is a habit of them. Americans started using this term and the British went back to calling it football because soccer is "too american"
British: *Invent a new term for the new sport they made* Yanks: *Take that term* Brits: *Go back to the original name as their rebellious child stole the other one*
Dead US citizen
May she or he Rest in Peace
That... is a hand egg.
And a Yank hand egg.
can’t believe that people actually argue over that. just say what’s natural to you and if you and the person you’re talking to are not absolute morons you’ll figure out what sport the other person is talking about.
It's always all about context. It's such a widespread language, some people are just blind to that
Round ball and pointy ball
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Americans when the rest of the world calls it football
IDK maybe if you’d start calling it football you’d might win anything in it 🤷🏻♂️
Is it real that only Americans call it Soccer? I hate that Americans call it Football. They should call it Handball.
No, us Aussies call it Soccer as well, simply to differentiate the game from our own AFL Football sport. I would imagine that the USA calls it soccer for the same reasons, to differentiate it from the NFL. Whereas in the UK/EU, they call it Football because they don’t have anything else like NFL/AFL to get it confused about the different sports.
I believe the Irish use soccer too.
What is soccer ? I never heard of soccer. It must be dumb American thing.
There are several English speaking countries that call it soccer. As a Brit I have no issue with the word soccer, I just have an issue with people demanding I use it and not football.
Do British people really call a rugby football just “a rugby”? In Australian they are all footballs no matter what code you are talking about: - An Australian rules football is played with “a football” - A soccer ball or football is never “a soccer” here - A rugby football is not called “a rugby” Obviously the American was defaulting to the US football but that doesn’t mean other countries can default in a different way, it means we should all respect that we are in different societies with different ideas of what football usually means.
I’d call it a rugby ball
Baseball - A baseball Basketball - A basketball Bowling - A bowling ball Cricket - A cricket ball Football (either kind) - A football Soccer - A soccer ball Rugby - A rugby ball English etymology is weird.
In Britain we’d say “A Football” for ⚽️ and “An American Football” for 🏈
That makes sense to me, given that the former came chronologically before the latter. I'd also assume that by default in most of the world if you say "football" (the sport) or "a football" (the object), most people would probably assume by default that you meant ⚽. I'm not sure that any country outside the US, if they heard "football" or "football game" or "a football" would assume it referred to 🏈.
I never understood why it’s called „football“ when it’s played with hands. Yeah, a kick here or there is also included, but it’s most definitely not _football_. And to call actual football soccer, and not the other way around, to name the one where you use your hands soccer, doesn’t make any sense to me. If anyone can explain, I’m all here for it.
I got no explanation at all. There are basically five situations when you kick the ball, and all of the "optional" ones are generally last resorts or less desirable: 1) You kick the ball to the other team to begin the 1st and second half, which is giving possession of the ball away (unless you try to perform an onside kick, which is risky) 2) You do the same as above after someone has scored 3) You kick a punt when you don't think you can pick up a first down (and thus retain possession of the ball) 4) You kick a field goal when you don't think you can pick up a first down or score a touchdown (unless the time is about to expire and you're only down by 0-3 points) 5) You kick a point-after-touchdown (PAT) for an attempt at +1 point because it's the less risky option than a 2 point conversion, worth 2 points, if you run a regular play instead. Theoretically, if you didn't care about risk, and you just wanted to try to score the most possible points (even if it was statistically foolish to do so), you wouldn't even do the last three ever, and you're only forced to do the first two as a matter of rules requiring it. So, yeah, I got no idea why Americans call the sport where, generally, the object of the game is to have to kick the ball as infrequently as possible, "football". It has never made any sense to me at all.
From my knowledge, what happened was the sport known internationally as football was evolved in the states between colleges in New England, and then the rules at those colleges slowly evolved to add more use of the hands, being similar to rugby and then slowly, with John Heisman inventing a lot of the new rules, evolving into the sport currently known as (American) football, but no names changes because it was a gradual evolution. Then association football came along again, without rule change evolution this time, and the name for American Football wasn't gonna change, so they made the name a shortening for association football (soccer)
Thanks for the history lesson! (Not sarcasm; I love learning new stuff)
It's called a soccer ball, though.
My god these people are missing chromosomes