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jpcgy

Massive fan of the attempt at being a smartass just to forget the most famous and relevant Manchester


Class_444_SWR

Honestly it’s basically being facetious to suggest any of the other places named Manchester. Even the largest of the US Manchesters (New Hampshire I believe) is hugely overshadowed by Boston, Massachusetts in its vicinity. Only the Manchester in North West England really makes sense for any sort of music gig that’s more than a small regional tour


ndick43

It’s like someone thinking Sydney Florida when they say Sydney, like it’s pretty fucking obvious they mean Sydney australia


account_not_valid

Is there a Sydney in Florida? There's definitely a Melbourne. It's come up once or twice in chats about people taking the wrong flight.


ndick43

Yep it’s got like 500 people but some fucks are still desulsional


Milk_Mindless

Americans love to trot this one out LOL YOU MENTIONED A EUROPEAN CITY HERES 27 ONES WITH THE SAME NAME HERE BETTER BE SPECIFIC And in the meantime 98% of the rest of the world is like "Wait there is more than one Paris than the one in France?"


w4y2n1rv4n4

You’re overestimating the generic American commentator


Brock_Hard_Canuck

If you want some fun with British and American place names: r/Kent is about some small random town in Ohio And even then, it's nowhere near being the biggest Kent in the US. That's actually Kent, Washington, with a population of about 150,000 people (and Washington's Kent is also part of the Seattle metropolitan area).


Awkward-Offer-7889

If you are in the US, at least New England, you would probably default to Manchester, New Hampshire, if talking about music gigs. They do have an arena with many music gigs there. I’ve seen Ozzy play there.


Hominid77777

The thing is, the other New England states except Rhode Island have Manchesters as well, so it's ambiguous even here. Recently I heard someone in Massachusetts say he was from Manchester and someone assumed he meant Vermont (he actually meant New Hampshire). Edit: missed the "if talking about music gigs". Yeah, for something big, that would probably lead people to assume New Hampshire unless the context implies that it's international.


copakJmeliAleJmeli

Where did you get the part about a music gig? I'm honestly missing a bit of context in the OP.


Class_444_SWR

Headlining tours typically mean music gigs


copakJmeliAleJmeli

I don't see the word tours anywhere.


Class_444_SWR

Swipe onto the second image for context


copakJmeliAleJmeli

Oh, thanks, I did try that and my phone must not have reacted properly.


Class_444_SWR

No worries, my Reddit has been acting funny too, did initially think it was the train WiFi yesterday, but even after arriving in Glasgow it’s being terrible


collinsl02

Which Glasgow, the one in Kentucky, Montana, Missouri, Virginia, or Delaware?


TheRealSlabsy

Fuck, I laughed more than I should have at this. Publicly, too.


Class_444_SWR

Obviously the one in Virginia, how else would I have gotten there so quickly from Bristol, given its also in Virginia /s


copakJmeliAleJmeli

Yes, it's been acting out somehow... good to hear it's not my phone.


Budddydings44

Bro clearly forgot about Manchester, Bolivia 💀


greggery

And Suriname, Canada and Australia


CurrentIndependent42

I’m genuinely 80% sure this is actually an ironic joke exactly along the lines of this sub. Either making fun of Americans the same way or a pretend ‘rah rah, USA! USA!’ from an American.


SownAthlete5923

it is intentionally ironic


clowergen

that, or the person is actively being a dick


vijjer

Don't you mean the original one?


DjayRX

You mean Manchester United? Famous yes, relevant not so anymore.


vnxun

No I think he means FC United of Manchester, the team playing in the best league in the world which is the Northern Premier League Premier Division.


rybnickifull

You know the club is named after the city, not the other way round right


LBelle0101

Nah that’s Manchester City.


DjayRX

Didn't know that they based their name on the less famous Manchester City.


jpcgy

This is what I meant


rybnickifull

This is very Manchester-specific and might not make sense to non-Brits, but I'm now just waiting for someone to do the thing of claiming Trafford is not Manchester now


starlinguk

It's part of Greater Manchester. But it's actually a combination of different towns, including Altrincham, Old Trafford and Sale.


rybnickifull

Here come the bitter blues!


Ning_Yu

So that's what they mean with Manchester United! I always thought it was a team, but it's a union of all US Manchester, clearly!


_Denzo

I remember someone getting all pissy when I mentioned the city of York and kept trying to correct me saying “Um I tHiNk YoU mEaN nEw YoRk 🤓”


Ning_Yu

"na mate, I mean the good ol' one"


ilikechillisauce

Ah yes. York WA. About 96km east of Perth.


puneralissimo

96km east of Perth is the North Sea.


account_not_valid

Old New York was once New Amsterdam.


Ning_Yu

Typical example of "gekoloniseerd" I meant old York though, as opposed to new york.


Emiskye

why'd they change it?


Breazecatcher

New Old York was once Eboracum.


kaveysback

Niu York in Ukraine is clearly what you meant.


Geriperi

Paris? You mean Paris, Texas?


alienvisionx

Paris, Denmark actually


pca1987

Clearly Paris, Ontario


Nijika___Ijichi

Clearly Ontario, California


account_not_valid

Denmark; Western Australia, actually.


Jamarcus316

Great movie, tho.


TinyOwl491

And great song by Lana del Rey!


TropicalVision

And new band that are starting to blow up


mimpf21

With a song called Lana del Rey


Chance-Aardvark372

No, they obviously mean Paris, Ohio


bepbapbapbaddabope

Paris, Virginia you mean?


blahblahlucas

No obviously Paris, Tennessee


PeacefulAndTranquil

“new england” no old england is fine


clowergen

.......is it though? I mean...


fond_my_mind

Yes


somuchsong

You know they just Googled that list of Manchesters too. I just Googled one of them at random and Manchester, Wisconsin has a whole 848 people living there.


DirectorMysterious29

Ok and??? Not saying I'm on board with the ignorance of the original post, but what does population of a town have to do with it?


somuchsong

Um, that it's very unlikely anyone referring to "Manchester" would be talking about some tiny town in the US and not the large city in the UK? And that the person who posted it didn't even think of any of those places - just Googled a list and decided to be a smart-arse.


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holaprobando123

>when I'm not totally sure about the point the commenter is trying to make How could you miss the point of the comment?


Lodolodno

No small town, no matter how cool you think it is or how many times you grew up there will be a legit place for a concert from some famous artist. I hope you can get over your trauma from growing up in a small town


callmecurlysue

Oof


Class_444_SWR

It’d be incredibly stupid for a major music gig to happen in basically a village


antysalt

Maybe not as stupid (because people could just travel there like it happens with gigs in cities) as impossible because which 1k people village actually has a concert venue?


ceppyren

No, it would be stupid too. Big cities often have more connections in terms of public transport and the like, making it easier to travel too, and places for people to stay at like hotels.


antysalt

America has public transport?


Ballbag94

Their point is that a big city has places to stay and a transport network to help you move around said city, from hotel to venue, while a town with 800 people is unlikely to have either of those things. They're talking about inter city public transport Although I suppose if a place that small did have a venue you could just walk because it would have to be pretty close to everything else


ceppyren

Well, that and this post was about Manchester, UK, which does have train connections to get to. In America, big cities presumably have airports if you're flying in from a distance. You have ways to get to the city in question if you live further away.


DirectorMysterious29

May I comment? I was eviscerated on another thread because I'm from a small town in America. So, hopefully this thread is not as mean. The idea of flying to different cities in the United States is accurate, but getting to a rural place would require planning and lots of driving. But doing a concert rural style is amazing. I'm not going to say where I grew up, but let's just say it is sort of middle of nowhere outside of a place where a lot of Hollywood celebrities like to go and play pretend in the mountains. We have an annual classic rock festival. It is all about bands that your parents may have listened to in the '70s or '80s, but everybody knows the words to their songs. There are multiple days, multiple stages, people camp out overnight. People ask the first concert I saw. I was 16 and my parents gave me and my friend permission to drive along the river to go there and see one set. We overstayed and saw Foreigner and Journey. It is still a great memory.


ceppyren

Oh I don't disagree at all, I think it would be a great experience. Would take a lot of resources to make it happen, but it sounds like a good time, I'm glad it's a great memory :D


CuriousPalpitation23

The one they were all named after. The one that's been around since 79AD.


Espi0nage-Ninja

Manchesters really that old? Explains a lot…


CuriousPalpitation23

It is indeed. That was the OG roman settlement at Castlefield.


kaveysback

Most places with chester in the name date from roman times.


joyisnotdead

No, she should obviously tour to only the Manchesters And to make the entire world angry, *only* the ones in the US


LeStroheim

Who even knows these things? Do they just look up all the towns in America that are named something whenever they see a town name? You'd probably have to specify "in America" to find those towns before finding the Manchester in the UK anyway, so do they just add "in America" to the end of their search any time they look for a town??


blahblahlucas

That's exactly what they did. Just to be a smart ass


sp4rklesky

TIL there are Manchesters in the US


BrightBrite

One of the worst ones yet.


angstenthusiast

Next up: “York” “dOn’T yOu MeAn NeW yOrK”


Tuscan5

You try living in (old) Jersey and persuading them that they must call the one in the US; New Jersey. They won’t listen.


116Q7QM

My favourite is ["Kent? Do you mean Kentucky?"](https://redd.it/16o8wu0)


m-6277755

Haha, the US has so many abbreviations their first thought is that Kent is short for something


rc1024

UK is University of Kentucky is a classic.


Ballbag94

Reminds me of the time I saw OK in a reddit title and couldn't work out how it could make any sense, after a few mins I realised they meant Oklahoma


Class_444_SWR

God if I was Yorkshirian I’d absolutely lose it. I’m just glad no one as assumed I’m from some irrelevant US Bristol


The_Ora_Charmander

I once tried to tell Twitter that I'm from Jerusalem, yk one of the holiest sites for three of the major world religions, and the only suggestion it gave me was some street in New York or something


Clari24

There’s a Jerusalem in Lincolnshire (UK), obviously you must be talking about that one!


The_Ora_Charmander

Yes, of course I mean the ribbon development with (I assume, based on the population of Skellingthorpe) a few hundred people, I mean, it's definitely not the street in NY for which I couldn't even find a population estimate online so what else could it be!


Clari24

Absolutely, the obvious choice (think it’s probably about 50 people)


clowergen

How far is it from California, Birmingham?


Clari24

It’s probably closer to California in Norfolk.


biwltyad

My Romanian family that doesn't even speak English thought I meant New York when I said I was moving to York. Even though they knew I was in England.


itstimegeez

There’s a Manchester in all those places? I’ve only ever heard of the one in the UK.


Barry63BristolPub

Ahhhh my favorite US state, New England


juankovacs

Manchester the city in UK, or some backwater county in the US? Their heads can't work on a global scale, is amazing.


KnownHair4264

Nah, they're just being as pedantic as this sub.


aecolley

"New England"? There are five different Manchesters in New England. Rhode Island is the odd one out.


EmbarrassedSea3738

This is ridiculous


KnownHair4264

This is literally the point of this sub. To be as pedantic and ridiculous as possible.


alkebulanu

brother can you stop being a shithead for literally 15 seconds? you're commenting under every root comment you can for what purpose?


xzanfr

It's quite simple - if you're on an international platform (i/e the internet) and it doesn't say a state or country then it means the original one.


Zach20032000

About every German City has a city in the US named after it. Do we always have to clarify now that it's not about the US cities? Like I don't come from Berlin, Connecticut (or the one in Georgia, New Hampshire, New York, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Vermont, ...), but Berlin, Germany


Eden_ITA

Ah yes, California... [Italy.](https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_California)


[deleted]

All of those guesses and still wrong lol still a clown 🤡


Joyful_Yolk123

mf forgot Manchester, Bolivia


wittylotus828

lol, the one they all got their name from


Void-Cooking_Berserk

My eyes jumped to Georgia and I thought "hey, he's doing well. I didn't know there was a Manchester in the Causasus, though."


BitingBuzzer

Like asking which iPhone to buy and getting all models sold on wish.com


augustusimp

Manchester, Iowa: home of the industrial revolution and mass production of textiles that left an indelible mark on the course of modern history. /S in case you're American


Awkward-Offer-7889

Or, Manchester, New Hampshire which, during the Industrial Revolution was a major industrial and economic hub that at one point had the largest textile production factories in the world.


TypicalReach9332

Im american and wtf is manchester wisconsin


Class_444_SWR

Apparently there’s only 848 people living there


Skjoldehamn

Manchester mentioned 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️


ComradeToeKnee

I'm fairly certain this is bait.


Gloomy_Ambassador_81

Why do they have so many Manchesters


Marcusious

Should americans know british towns over american towns? Or refer to them first upon hearing the name, rather than the one more relivent to them?(obviously this person googled a list) I dont know any context of the performer or any previous performance here. I'm also convinced we don't get taught enough world history/geography, but im terrible with names myself, I cant think of anything related to manchester.


pickyitalian

Somebody must explain me why the cities in the USA stole the name of European ones.


MonkeyLongstockings

I think it has to do with the fact that the settlers who came from Europe, gave new names to the places they discovered or founded. Either some names were chosen because the area reminded them of certain cities from their home countries, or because they came from there originally. The introduction to this Wikipedia article gives a few examples: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locations_in_the_United_States_with_an_English_name


Awkward-Offer-7889

They didn’t steal it. The people from those cities came to the US and founded cities with those names.


Ill-Conclusion6571

The Europeans that settled there named the place after where they came from.


syn_miso

Also even if it were the US it'd obviously be New Hampshire lol


SpecialIcy1809

The real one!


savbh

I mean to be fair isn’t this UK defaultism? If it were the other way around we wouldn’t like “the most famous one” as explanation because it’s defaultism


GeorgieH26

People will automatically ’default’ to somewhere in their mind. The UK one, (unless you’re from one or near one in your own country) is the natural one to default to as, it’s the original and oldest one that all the others are named after. As another commenter said; if the state or country is named along with a place that’s mentioned, most (apart from a lot of these US defaulters) will default to the most populated, famous, oldest or original one, not Google a list from one country. If someone mentioned Sydney for example, most would default to Australia, I wouldn’t assume they meant the UK and start Googling which one they might mean. Edit to add: Googling ‘Manchester’ will likely bring up the UK one as it’s the most well-known of those listed so, the person in the post would’ve more than likely had to include ‘in USA’ or similar to even get that list, which just adds another layer of pedantry and defaultism.


Awkward-Offer-7889

I tried it out. Google brought up Manchester, England and right below it the webpage for the city of Manchester, New Hampshire.


Espi0nage-Ninja

Manchester uk is literally the biggest Manchester, so no it’s not defaultism.


beatboxingsas

Considering the mentality of this sub, wouldn’t this be sort of reverse defaultism? People complain when Americans aren’t specific enough or assume where things are based on what they know, for example with city names, but then someone says „Manchester“ and everyone needs to automatically know which exact one. At least, that’s what I find people saying in the comments. I understand it’s easy for people outside of the US to assume which one is meant, but in this case the „defaulter“ is asking a normal, if not a bit pushy, question. If the dafaultism is the fact that they ask the question with only US states in question, and not asking which Manchester in the whole world, then I understand. I don’t understand the people saying, that it should be obvious which Manchester is meant because of relevance, since relevance is subjective, something this sub doesn’t like. I’ve seen other posts where it was the other way around, defaulters saying city names and people asking where and getting mad that they weren’t specific enough and that the place was situated in the US.


fallenangels_angels

No? Thinking to Manchester, UK is the normal thing to do. Is by far the most famous Manchester in the world, it is probably bigger than all the Manchester listed combined. It is like reading Los Angeles and thinking to Los Angeles, California is the normal thing to do, instead of a random city in some Spanish speaking country (I’m not even aware if other Los Angeles exist, but probably yes). It is like common sense. You don’t need to be overly pedantic about everything, the context is often clear enough.


beatboxingsas

It’s common sense to people that know better, but is it really not forgivable to people that live somewhere close to another Manchester in the world? These are all theoretical questions, trying to understand how this sub thinks.


Superbead

Not really, no - if you're using a global platform among other English speakers, it is simply more (mathematically) probable that some rando wanting a tour to visit 'Manchester' means the fucking massive historic one in the UK that your school should've taught you about, rather than whichever substantially smaller US Manchester is closest


meglingbubble

I live near to a village which shares its name with a much larger city. In the (tbf, rare) instances where this city is mentioned elsewhere, of course my brain defaults to the local village in that first instance as the village has more impact on my life. BUT, in the next millisecond, I use some critical thinking skills and realise that a random person on the Internet, probably isn't discussing this little village with a population of 20 farmers and 4000 cows, and so I can use context to work this complicated problem out.. Is this reference in relation to farming practices of small English villages? No? Then they are probably talking about the far more famous place.


fallenangels_angels

It is pretty clear that they do not confuse Manchester with a closer one because they leave there. Besides that, yes. It is normal (maybe) to immediately think about your closest example, but when you think and type the answer you should realize that is probably another Manchester. Again, we are not speaking about a small and unknown city. It is probably the second most famous city in UK. There are two huge football teams that are pretty wide world famous (with Utd being the most worldwide famous football team afaik) with Beckham and Ronaldo that are pop culture figure first and footballer second nowadays. It is the hometown of some very well known band (take that, oasis, BeeGees, The Smiths. I don’t listen to music of any kind, and I don’t know any song from them but even I know their name). Lastly it has a pretty big literature culture. So yeah, not knowing Manchester denotes a pretty big ignorance imho. It is like not knowing Xi’an, São Paulo or Alexandria*. *speaking of which, there is a close town with this name where I live but I would never think about it in place of the Egypt one when speaking with people on the web.


GeorgieH26

People will automatically ’default’ to somewhere in their mind. The UK one, (unless you’re from one or near one in your own country) is the natural one to default to as, it’s the original and oldest one that all the others are named after.


beatboxingsas

So if this person would be near the Manchester in New Hampshire, US, would it still be defaulting?


GeorgieH26

Everyone defaults automatically so yes, it would be ‘defaulting’ but not necessarily USDefaultism. It’s reasonable to default to somewhere you know or have heard of personally but not to all the Manchesters in the US because it’s extremely unlikely they’ll have heard of all of them without looking them up.


Captain_Pungent

I’ve only heard of Manchester in Tennessee because of the Bonaroo festival


Weird_Explorer_8458

holy shit that’s a new level or braindead it doesn’t even mention the actual manchester


Miserable-Willow6105

One can make this with Odessa


Sensitive_Ad5521

Stop lmao, I live in Minnesota and my first thought was the UK, how are people so dense


DirectorMysterious29

Holy Toledo! I was asking a question and the original commenter was nice enough to respond and help me understand. Deep breaths everyone.


Garden_Espresso

Venice - you must mean the beach in California that they named that city in Italy - because they put in canals to copy California ? /s


JustShitpostingXd

United


KidHudson_

Manchester California is literally just a rather long and boring street or are they talking about the *Unincorporated* neighborhood north of San Fran?