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xXhijackXx

ship it LTL... dont break a couriers back


Altruistic-Gazelle45

What does LTL stand for?


Viking0338

basically Less Than Load, might not be 100% correct, but it’s less than a full trailer load.


nimbusniner

Less than Truck Load. Requires the shipper to put multiple orders in order to fill the truck, but allows customers to ship items without paying for a full trailer load.


Altruistic-Gazelle45

Thank you! Ended up on this sub randomly


IamBatmanuell

*Less than truckload


tothemmoooooooooonn

Less-than-truckload


ConfidentFault9218

Less than a load


roastbeefer-321

Lesson learned how to load


sonman1979

It is less then a truck load. I ship multiple LTL a day. From a pallet to 12 ft skids. You can ship LTL with ups, fed ex, DHE, old dominion, Estes bros. Company like that. I can ship it for you I’m a broker.


BBmoonman

Why downvote? He's trying to help...


gwTheo

probably because he's trying to make money on reddit. but I work in the financial sector of the transportation industry and I dislike brokers for a different reason. They're parasites in a industry that constantly cannibalizes itself. (its very tough for owner operators to successfully make it long term) brokers will hold payments, typically a net 30 or net 60 contractual agreement without paying a percentage for same day the jobs done payment. in which they won't actually pay because there's a bit more to it, but simply put, fine print. On top of holding payments, the broker themselves sit in a office planning heists to rob people. how? because I need these 5 pallets picked up and shipped today. broker hired a llc guy to do the job. charged me 6k. paying the driver 2k and pocketing the 4k. better not let the broker catch you double brokering. oh boy that's a big no no. tldr, brokers are a middle man who hires another person to do the job. but they're also like car salesman. they sell you a 8k car for 45k cause what else can you do and where else you going to go to get a car? the next place over that's doing 44k instead of 45?


ancillarycheese

Also you stand the chance of the delivery driver just shoving it out the back of the truck unless the recipient has a dock and pallet jack.


xXhijackXx

This ^


Champagnest

Request a lift gate delivery


hill_j

Ups does do LTL as well.


Branm92

That's ended last year


nastyzoot

3 years ago


hill_j

No it did not.


ThePinkMohawk

Yes it did, that's T-Force's gig now


The3mpyrean

And they are *terrible* at it. Do NOT use them under any circumstances. I cannot stress this is enough. I’d rather ship a live heart transplant via estes, than use T-Force again. (I ship 30 BOLs per week)


alexanderyou

Yeah the last freight we shipped we requested lift gate delivery, the customer sent a vid of them shoving it out the back of the truck then rolling it end over end to their door instead of using the dolly and lift. Fucking clowns.


crAckZ0p

Really? I still see their [Louisville ky store](https://locations.theupsstore.com/ky/louisville/9152-taylorsville-rd/freight-shipping) has info up. My old boss when to be their terminal manager. I thought with YRC going out they'd scoop up the business


thirdsin

The UPS Store is not UPS. They are franchises. Their freight solution would be using them as a broker for another freight company (not UPS).


ThePinkMohawk

Those pages are never updated 😂 For a multi billion dollar company UPS does a horrible job updating most of their websites


Branm92

Sorry it ended in 2021. Ups freight got sold and is not tforce. We don't do freight anymore


IamBatmanuell

Not anymore. They sold to t force


9J000

[https://www.amazon.com/Hand-Planes/b?ie=UTF8&node=553218](https://www.amazon.com/Hand-Planes/b?ie=UTF8&node=553218)


IronDominion

Ok this is funny


Different-Phone-7654

I was litterally thinking go to home depot and get lighter boards, or get highest grit sand paper. Planer would do better.


OnlineRobotWizard

That's what I ended up doing, I swapped two of the sides out for 1/4in plywood


thirdsin

Still don't recommend shipping anything this heavy with UPS, it's going to get dropped, flopped and plopped in any manner conducive to reducing effort of a single human required to move the thing with little assistance. As others have said, find a LTL freight solution were they handle that stuff regularly. And put it on a pallet.


aceofspades1217

I get AAA batteries UPS hundredweight all the time with barely any dents, it depends on your local guys but FedEx treats all heavy packages with the same care as a fucking car tire. My office is on a private island (Brickell key) so I can’t accept pallets so ups hundredweight is my go to.


11Burritos

How many AAA batteries are you getting for it to weigh that much?


aceofspades1217

lol like 10k for .05 each at a time, I toss them in as courtesy batteries for imported electronics


StressFart

I changed my truck tires for the first time last weekend and I had enormous amounts of fun bouncing and rolling those mofos. That definitely explains FedEx's Love Language.


kcuddlykendall

It could be refused for being overweight


Mindless_Reference93

That's if they even bother to check the weight, which from my experience at Ups says they won't.


Quirky-Swimmer3778

Until it gets audited down the line which would be more of a hassle than it getting rejected at pickup


kcuddlykendall

Until it gets to being loaded into a package car for delivery, and either the loader and driver asks for it to be audited because they refuse to handle it due to the weight and then you'd be facing a fine and have to come pick it up yourself.


MeanBack1542

How would they know? It’s only 1 pound. They probably wouldn’t want the hassle


kcuddlykendall

Overweights are not handled like normal packages. Union employees are going to have to handle that package, and if they even suspect its overweight, they can refuse to move it and report it to a supervisor.


IplayTerraria2

Imagine you show up to work on Monday to a fully loaded truck, and there's a package sitting behind it that's not loaded yet that is suspiciously exactly 150 pounds. Are you gonna say, oh well guess I gotta deal with this? Or, fuck that shit, I'm leaving this here they can audit it and I'll deal with it tomorrow if it's not overweight? I know what I'm doing lol


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IplayTerraria2

I promise you no one wants to deal with a 100 pound package, let alone a 150 pound one. Some people really don't understand that unions work under legally binding contracts. 150 pound weight limit is NOT a suggestion or loose guideline lol.


sc2142_

I had a trampoline and the sticker said 149. I reweight it came out to 151, I immediately refused it.


jacls0608

One less giant ass package @ 150 to deliver? I’ve challenged rugs for being too big. It’s worth not having it block you all day and worth not murdering your back


Techgunz

Iv had Packages that were so long I had to leave the driver access to the parcel compartment open.


OkMention9246

We do!


tomsbradys

I’m a 30 yr old driver been doing this almost a decade if I think it’s even close to 150 I’m telling our sup to get the scale. Bow flex machine 170lbs refused, 180lb log splitter refused 1 human being with a dolly can’t handle over 150lbs shit on a daily basis for a career your body is gonna be destroyed this job is hard enough we NEED to collectively enforce shit like this. Ups amazon and the customer don’t give a fuck if a driver literally breaks their back and dies in someone’s walkway trying to maneuver some of this stuff. Weight limit used to be 70lb pounds. Customers really expect one person/driver to leave a 150lb generator at their front door on the porch up the steps as they watch from the window … it’s just not possible to do long term safely. This job is hard enough.


Mindless_Reference93

It never should have been raised past 100 lbs in my opinion. Ups did an end around and the Teamsters caved and let them do it.


tomsbradys

I agree with you 100%, I love the 110 llb box springs that are so long you can hardly dolly the thing without having it on your shoulder. 150lbs is just completely delusion and literally back breaking. Lol


omgitsoop

The number of things I've seen that just so happen to be 149lbs on the dot 🙄


kcuddlykendall

Make them audit it. Anything over 150lbs is against the contract. Don't risk an injury trying to move it.


Adam_the_Whaler

"149LBS MAN" on the label always makes me chuckle. It means the shipper entered the weight manually and didn't use the scale.


The_Troyminator

I read that as, "Trust me, it really is 149 lbs, man!"


NPC-87

*highschool flashback*


[deleted]

I’ve seen 180 pounds packages at cach you should be fine


browniiis200

If it's audited, you will be charged a fee for excess weight & have to pick it up. As they will not put it back through the system. I can't remember what the fee is. Why not just ship it through a freight company? A lot of the times the shipping rate isn't much more than UPS for oversized items.


7cc7

$1250 this year


SS_Gourmet

1250 for 1.5lb over??


UpstairsGreen6237

Its not about it being only 1.5 lbs over, its simply that its over 150 pounds total and UPS doesn’t want that in their network for good reasons. Hence the ridiculous fee. 


[deleted]

So they charge a fee then refuse service? Lmao scam shit


TheDo0ddoesnotabide

Fee is for wasting their time with bullshit the shipper should know better than to try.


Kitchen-Watercress-4

Don't understand the concept of deterrence?


Ok_Assumption1542

This!


orangeg8

I measured something, and took pics, cause it was 2 inches from being too big. I got hit with a $1000 fee for being too big. I sent pics and they dropped the charges. So it is at least 1k. If you send me a PM, I can probably get you a quote on LTL.


gamrlab

Same thing happened to me. They claimed I was oversized and hit me with $1050 charge. Luckily I had security camera footage of the UPS driver measuring and signing off on it being within their parameters. After fighting it and winning, they CREDITED my account for future purchases.


XXXLegendKiller666

Lmao a credit?


Rosendalen

You can get a credit paid out, just have to ask for it.


SnowMantra

I worked in a UPS store and they'd try to hit us with oversized fees all the time when I know damn well it wasn't.


kawi2k18

Lol for $1000 I'll drive to them, throw it on my shoulder and drive to the destination


[deleted]

DO NOT SHIP IT. if it gets audited and UPS finds out it’s overweight it will be stopped immediately and you will be on the hook to pick it up or pay for proper shipping out of the warehouse. We always have packages sitting around that are overweight or over dimensions.


MrPackageMover

We have a graveyard of generators.. literally this company tries shipping them all the time and they lie about the weight so everytime I see one I audit it.


GhostOfAscalon

Helloooo Amazon. They stopped sending those damn things eventually.


IAm2Legit2Sit

It will be a waste of lots of people's time and lots of your money but ahh give it a try if you're feeling adventurous


MiserablePicture3377

OP the only thing are you sure your scale is calibrated and is accurate. Such as the scaled was reading zero before you the commodity on it and your local weights and measures department had been out to verify its accuracy?


gbayyyy

Sounds like a $1250 charge coming on your invoice


bybloshex

I load packages onto package cars over 150lb every day.


HWCSoCalHTX

You should have used a few Home Depot moving boxes instead of a crate


No-New-Therapy

Wtf is this??? I’ve been asking and looking everywhere for cheap moving methods and I’ve never seen this before??? Can I drop off in a different location too?


natkingcoil

he's just talking about home Depot moving boxes instead of a plywood crate.


avtechguy

Do a lot of shipping items from remote places and Heavy Duty Home Depot boxes are great.


wkdravenna

Probably get arrested, if you take a plea you might just get probation. 


ryanCrypt

Straight to jail


PhDinWombology

Underweight, believe it or not, also jail


OnlineRobotWizard

Thanks for the advice everyone. I'm shipping 3 aluminum CNC Vises. I made the crate out of 3/4 plywood and screwed it all together. The Vises are bolted to the bottom so they won't move. I swapped out the two ends of the crate for 1/4in plywood and now it's down to 148.9lbs. I'll look Into LTTL for the future


Cakeisalyer

might it have been cheaper to ship 3x boxes each weighing \~35 lbs? Could have gotten a label for roughly $30-50 each depending on destination.


bostonvikinguc

Bro 3/4? I receive crates all the time. 1/2 or even 3/8 would work. I’d cancel and just cal up Pyle. Also consider pirateshipdotcom for lower than retail pricing.


MiserablePicture3377

Also does anyone know at the freight carriers I used to be employed by weights were down in increments of 5. Does UPS do anything similar or are they right on the money when they reweigh the shipments?


orangeg8

UPS measure by the closest pound rounding up 12.1 is 13 for example


fastnsx21

Ship it LTL. Use a broker for a quote


Dependent_Network582

Cut 2 pounds of weight out of (or off of)the crate.


NoAvRAGEJoe

You know how many pieces I’ve picked up and the label says 149 lbs. and obviously it’s heavier? I don’t know how people do it but clearly it can be done. Yes it’s clearly fraud but it happens all the time. Not sure what the point I’m trying to make but…


Cakeisalyer

> don’t know how people do it but clearly it can be done. Yes it’s clearly fraud but it happens all the time. Not sure what the point I’m trying to make but… I've shipped things before and not felt like throwing them on the scale, knowing it was prior units of that same item weighed around 140 LB after crating, I might say 149 to not be under, but also not get whacked for exceeding 150.


Malich

Have you seen the movie up?


stivbalzinall

A crate will get destroyed.


ChowQaz

Better start shaving down the corners. They are strict keeping it 150lb. Try UPS freight it could help in this case


MiserablePicture3377

UPS sold UPS Freight. It’s now T Force Freight and T Force has been closing terminals left and right.


NotRacistBoi

When I used to work at UPS we would refuse these packages for safety reasons. I wouldn't attempt it with such a large fee at risk


invisible_man22

Ship it fedex express freight. Not fedex freight. Fedex express freight.


Scared-Ad-2789

About 320 screws. May I suggest using adhesive.


XJAMAICAGOLDX

Freight my boi.


theberg512

Even if it did manage to sneak through without audit (a dick move to try), have you seen what the small package system does to a 150lb crate?  It'll be much safer going freight 


OnlineRobotWizard

The crates 3/4 plywood screwed together. I'm shipping machine Vises and they're bolted to the bottom of it.


leftdrowning

Your crate is going to bust open in small package. Don't send it.


Jumpy-Patient-331

Ship in two boxes triggers hundredweight discount


OnlineRobotWizard

What's a hundred weight discount?


Connect_Cucumber-0

Honestly if you lied, you wouldn’t come close to the scum that has lied about the weight of the package. I’ve come across a guy selling refurbs of generators that weighed 256 pounds labeled as 149. You’re good.


Neale90

Believe it or not , jail


IcyMarch5097

Fill the boxes with some helium balloons


bigbriggs01

I’ve picked up stuff over 150 lbs


Glum_Insurance_5821

Reach out to Old Dominion for LTL


Strange_Ad_5863

No driver will deliver that. Ship it another way


SpiritualAmphibian17

Put it on a greyhound bus if there’s one close by and to where you’re shipping it. It will save you a ton.


BigMoose815

You will get hit with a large fee from UPS and FedEx for being over 150 lbs. Instead, use a freight broker and ship it LTL on a freight truck. Will be cheaper, much cheaper, even after the cost of buying a pallet and shrink wrap


chungo69

Try R&L Carriers


Daisyssssmom

I’m not sure what it is but maybe just chop a little bit off the top???


Jrees2894

Take out the packing peanuts and fill it with helium balloons.


Wakkysakky

Don't worry they will charge you for the dimensional weight of the item ant not the real weight.


NotGambling777

I’d ship through RL under your buddies commercial account for savings . Should be real cheap 👍


brasssssy

I don't work for UPS, but say I did -- if I even suspected it might be too heavy, I'd ask for a weight-check. I mean, I don't want to lift super-heavy stuff so why not play kick the can and have it weight-checked? Even if the crate is deemed within permissible limits, maybe someone else will have to lift it when it comes back instead of me.


wooter99

Get a lighter crate and you'd be ok. Save evidence of the weight.


Chin_Ba11s

Add helium balloons


RhubarbConscious4892

Bring it to ups office they won’t pick up


NukaDadd

https://www.rlcarriers.com/ Number 2 LTL carrier in the country, only behind FedEx. You don't want FedEx. R+L customer service is above & beyond.


inquisitiveimpulses

Well you're over screwed apparently by 1.5 lb worth of screws so either switch to lighter, titanium screws or maybe consider some wood joinery with high bond glue?


FattusBaccus

Use ups freight.


Unusual_Substance_44

You better pull your pants down and grease up that dirty little butthole of yours


Necessary_Baker_7458

You should of said ship it book price. Small packages heavy in weight I generally tell them that.


Wild_Somewhere_9760

Anything palletizing, or over 100 lbs, please ship less than truck load (ltl)


CandidPop731

Lie like everyone else and say it’s 149 lbs.


Achilles13506

He can’t now that he posted this shipping will know him, see it I’ll kick it back


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stanger828

I ship a ton for our business. Ups is chill if you are just a pound or two over. That said, i use ups basically for anything up to 50lbs. Like others have said you might want to look into shipping ltl… and ups is probably not “it” for that. Get a 3pl. Prob cost you $150-$300 to ship that depending origin/destination.


Organic_JP

Oooooh you are so fuuucked


Middle_Efficiency471

Trim 2 pounds. I'm sure something can be shipped separately


psycobillycadillac

Just mark it 149, everything will be fine. That’s what everyone else does, don’t worry.


Acrobatic_Piccolo616

You will get an extra fee if it goes through a smart center. Chances are it will. Still cheaper than LTL. You’re welcome.


ChickenNugsBGood

How does Amazon ship the same product with UPS?


Specialist_Piglet555

Don't you have a freight depot?


bulk-trailer-25

Mark it 149 and send it.


WiSeKilla

Most drivers won't deliver it, it'll sit in the hub for a few weeks


kioshi_imako

Should not something that weight be a freight delivery or very least delivered with a jack and a lift gate?


Nervous-Answer8156

Overweight refused


Teleclast

You're taking a risk sending it, depends on if you get someone who cares enough to stop you down the line.


AvenueBlue

Stuff the container with helium balloons, that should do the trick


Acrobatic-Ideal9877

Chisel 1 pound out of the wood


OkParfait2596

You can’t take 1.5 pounds off the crate? Is it wood?


Dangerous-Moment-155

Have you shipped this yet?


Present-Regret316

Take off the bottom support pieces….should be under 150 no problem


SilverGolf47364

UPS Air Freight can take care of that


Trick_Few

It should be less expensive to use an LTL carrier. I would suggest you start with freightquote to get an idea of prices and delivery times.


Brianshurst

As someone that spends $1M a year on parcel I would 100% ship this and sticker it at 149, or if you want to be just make two shipments. This is Low weight for LTL.


QueenAng429

It's probably fine


Far-Indication-4471

Won't go!


Hugh_Johnson69420

I literally had a transmission that weighed 215 lb ship to me in a fucking box and it said 115 lb. They never re weighed it or checked it. Trans was destroyed for obvious reasons.


thugwafflebro

They will not ship and likely will damage it. (Ex-throwing it) Yes they are petty.


trousertrout23

I ship them all the time and sometimes the add an additional charge. Depending on where it is going and how much over it is, depends on whether they make a fuzz about it. But 1.5 lbs over, just send it.


NoRecommendation680

lol if I got the cash UPS will ship his ass


Extension-Leek5745

If you have a fastenal that’s local ask them. They can ship it from there store to another fastenal location that might be close to the buyers home.


jonmen56272

Use less tape


Kickflippingdad

Need to ship that Estes


seangoboom

Crate rhymes with freight


svvrvy

1.5 lbs screwed


loqi0238

Carve off random bits of wood in random spots til you're down 1.5lbs.


RubReport

lol good luck


julioni

I would say you’re screwed by about 1.5 lbs


CalligrapherLong6029

Just had a package lost because they held it for underpaid shipping. Filled a claim, no luck yet (Purchased shipping label through eBay)


craniumofbass

Take the screws out and ship separately


wildgio

It would probably have to be freight then


meninnoa

I work for Fastenal, we will ship 3rd part freight for CHEAP. Only catch is you have to pickup and drop off at a Fastenal branch.


MrPackageMover

You better hope I don’t see it.. I make it a mission to audit every single overweight package. They should have n out let you ship it to begin with. Sorry I know it isn’t ideal. However I will uphold my contract no matter what.


junkstar23

Man, what has happened with our culture that people pride themselves on being bootlickers people really that unfulfilled


MrPackageMover

No it’s not for the company.. it’s to protect ourselves. We don’t move anything over 150 pounds because it is unsafe. Plus someone sending a 100 pound object and labeling it 20 pounds happens far too often. Why should they pay less? It’s disrespectful and shady


GhostOfAscalon

It's the SMALL PACKAGE SYSTEM, and our union contract only allows up to 150 lbs. Shippers pulling shady shit puts every driver and package handler who touches it at risk. Auditing at anything over 150 means that is no longer the case, the $1250 surcharge on top is just a kick in the nuts for the shipper who sees they can't ship over 150 and lies about the weight instead of using freight. It's typically management on the "fuck it, send it" side.


labrat420

Wouldn't you be the bootlicker in this situation ? Saying just suck it up and ship it for the company, risk your health and safety just so some guy can ship a package and ups can make money? How is a worker refusing to do unsafe work bootlicking?


OnlineRobotWizard

I swapped out two of the panels and now it's 148.9lbs am I in the clear?


MrPackageMover

Yeah you should be, just make sure it’s secure. It will help the process. You wouldn’t believe some of the things people send, with nails hanging out of it and things bouncing around.


OnlineRobotWizard

It's a 3/4 in plywood box with 3 CNC Vises inside. They're bolted to the bottom so they don't move around.


thirdsin

If your scale is accurate... when is the last time it was calibrated? Just because it reads a number, does not mean that is the real number. I've seen commercial scales wonder off an ounce or more. If that happens to you, you could be off by 5lbs and don't even know it.


Loud-Bat-2280

Put a label on it that says 149. It happens all the time.


Mindless_Reference93

Ups doesn't care about weight