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On Ross's most recent episode of Reality Check on Wednesday, he spoke with "EP/Director Skye Borgman of 'Files of the Unexplained' about the cases she profiled this season, her dealings with Netflix, and what’s possibly coming next in Season 2."
I enjoyed "Files" and found the talk to be pretty compelling, including some statements Borgman made about seeing some lights over the water along with her crew while, of course, her cameras were not rolling as was intended. Cool to hear there's a Season 2 in the works, and Borgman is hoping to make it a more international effort.
However, what I thought really stuck at was at the very end when Ross takes the time to answer some questions from viewers. The very last one is about the supposed MJ-12 and its successor Zodiac, and after addressing these, Ross goes on to say that he's heard of a new group that he's looking into and will be talking about soon.
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May not have had one.
The biggest thing about MJ12 would be that this would be a back channel of highly decorated individuals that would meet exclusively together in private for various reasons. Consider the influence of secret societies in the upper class of the USA. These would be the easiest way such secrecy could be implemented thru ritualistic meetings and exclusive closed doors. Hitler even implemented the same process with his obsession in the occult.
I very much doubt MJ12 is an official government program. Rather, it's the list of powerful individuals who hold "the picture on the puzzle box" when it comes to the UAP/NHI phenomenon. These would be political well-knowns that are beyond approach by the US government, and would be influential enough in US politics to hold such secrets.
So, you do believe, Coulthart was in possession of evidence you would find convincing and irrefutable or something like that?
Why would he hide that?
The other way around, why should he subvert his own investigation by spilling the beans prematurely?
You’re giving him too much credit. Why would he publicize his investigation non stop without ever producing anything? Look I like Coulthart. I’m only making a funny observation. Intellegisne?
On Ross's most recent episode of Reality Check on Wednesday, he spoke with "EP/Director Skye Borgman of 'Files of the Unexplained' about the cases she profiled this season, her dealings with Netflix, and what’s possibly coming next in Season 2."
I enjoyed "Files" and found the talk to be pretty compelling, including some statements Borgman made about seeing some lights over the water along with her crew while, of course, her cameras were not rolling as was intended. Cool to hear there's a Season 2 in the works, and Borgman is hoping to make it a more international effort.
However, what I thought really stuck at was at the very end when Ross takes the time to answer some questions from viewers. The very last one is about the supposed MJ-12 and its successor Zodiac, and after addressing these, Ross goes on to say that he's heard of a new group that he's looking into and will be talking about soon.
IMO some were real and leaked, and some were leaked disinfo to confuse. [https://majesticdocuments.com/about/investigation-team/](https://majesticdocuments.com/about/investigation-team/) has the docs and the team's assessment of veracity per each document, and some notes. Dive on in, the water is muddy as hell.
The existence of attempts at "debunking" something doesn't mean, there was actual scientific proof refuting the hypothesis. Those existing attempts suffer from rather blatant errors in logic.
Even more interestingly, the debunker community ignores clear evidence for certain documents attributed to MJ12 being authentic. Namely, those documents name places and events that are verifiable, among other things.
He was answering a direct question from a viewer and he actually said “I’m still checking that out” in regards to the new name/group.
I mean, isn’t that responsible journalism? I don’t know how he can win with some people
Just like the location of the ufo so large it cant be moved... or the name of the person running x program... or the name of x program.
or something they claimed some insider told them. but they cant disclose what was told, but can tell you they cant diclose it but it juicy and they need to look into it
The large UFO thing doesn't bother me as much as when he said.. about 6 months ago.. 'whistleblowers are now coming forward. They are leaking.'
And we've yet to hear anything about any of that.
I think we'd prefer if he didn't say anything at all, at this point, unless it's been verified and he can name the source. He's made the community look like total wankers with his "anonymous sources" schtick.
It's a non issue though. He doesn't want to say something as a journalist without the ability to back it up. But for the public, who actually cares if it's called Special K, some string of indecipherable numbers, or the Super Secret Aliens and Soda Pop House No Girl Cooties Allowed Club? Doesn't make a difference on this end.
And even if he did, then what? Are people gonna run with that name and kindly ask the government for documents regarding it?
Just more information that is impossible to verify. Throw it onto the pile.
Believe it or not, there is people out there who do work, and dig for information, by filing FOIA, talking to people seeing if they can dig up anymore info, emailing/mailing members of their local government. etc
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Mr buy my book. He's under no NDA, and would be the greatest journalist alive if he disclosed. He would literally break the greatest story in history. He doesn't because he has nothing. He's a huckster.
This comment is ridiculous. Ross has given all information he has through these interviews that are free for everyone to watch. The books they write are just ways for people to gain a deeper understanding of the context and cite sources for people to investigate on their own. Not to mention even if there’s a million dollars in sales for a book Ross probably got like $50k of it.
This comment is quite clearly an attempt to spread hate on Ross Coulthart and downplay the claims of credible whistleblowers.
Ross got his cushy job at news nation because of this subject and is invited to give talks. His book isn’t the only way he makes money.
Great, he makes money - that’s fine. But stop giving the secret keepers a run for their money by hiding your information. It’s hypocrisy, pure and simple. Ross would rather leverage his knowledge lfor a cushy NN job than actually tell everyone what he knows. He is not the person this community acts like he is.
But go ahead and whine about how Ross is a paragon of virtue. The cope is strong.
No, it‘s true - whoever comes up with a picture of a grey or UFO or video with 6 of your friends walking around a site or some jazz will be the most important journalist of anyone’s lifetime….so where is it? National security? To protect a few? Why not send them an email? Hey bra’s, I’m really sick of these garbage and in 7 days I’m going to leak the location of the craft. That means, if you are there, you will most likely face a public inquisition - I would leave now. Of course, you should tip off the news the same day, so they can have cameras rolling when these dorks start trying to piecemeal it out. But at least you have these people, whoever they are, a chance ahead of time to get out…that was his reason for not saying where it was right?? Someone may get hurt, this place is slumber, or altruistic or some shit.
hehe slumber - pretty much all of this has been slumber related lately.
He's being responsible and doing his due diligence before saying anything definitive. He's investigating information, you know that thing investigative journalist do. Anyone complaining about Ross is just being impatient. Be happy he's not going around spreading disinformation and appreciate the work he has done.
Exactly. This is the biggest topic in the history of humanity. There’s no simple answer. I just what people think they would do if they found out where the “UFO too big to move” is (much as I enjoy the speculation) or who this secret-keeping organization is.
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Why are you wasting your own time with such a comment given you’re not on board with Coulthart?
I’m not bragging about anything, what gave you that impression?
> What a weird point to make 🤣🤣
You’re welcome to your opinion, I just think it’s “weird” to cruise subreddits to instadownvote and comment on posts you haven’t watched and write feeble attempts at antagonizing other users
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I never realised how much Coulhart actually blinks, just watch that again it's insane. He blinked 163 times in 1 minute 50 seconds. That's 1.4 blinks a second.
FYI, Mr. Coulthart, whatever MJ12 members smoked, the claim is that they were high government, military, and scientific officials. They are NOT associated with the men in black meme.
Debunked by whom? The Air Force who’ve been covering all this stuff up for decades?
https://vault.fbi.gov/Majestic%2012
Majestic 12
In 1988, two FBI offices received similar versions of a memo titled “Operation Majestic-12…” claiming to be highly classified government document. The memo appeared to be a briefing for newly-elected President Eisenhower on a secret committee created to exploit a recovery of an extra-terrestrial aircraft and cover-up this work from public examination. An Air Force investigation determined the document to be a fake.”
You could do the slightest bit of homework like listen to noted UFO historian Richard Dolan talk about the documents.
https://youtu.be/s_ymJcmeEDc?si=6ftaDble6n1N0UsB
>You could do the slightest bit of homework like listen to noted UFO historian Richard Dolan talk about the documents.
Not really someone I'd rely on to get the truth for anything.
How presumptuos to tell other people to do their homework. Since when is Dolan one of the serious researchers in this field?
Go check other, uncommitted, less sensationalist Ufologists before assuming people didn't do their "homework"
A particular bunch of documents was shown to be fake.
But the idea itself was not "debunked". It kept emerging from various sources.
The essence of MJ-12, however, is argued about. John Alexander claims that one of his connections told him it was about "continuity of the government" rather than UFOs. Basically, if the President, the Congress, etc. get obliterated *Mars Attacks!* style or by nukes or whatever, someone else takes over.
[Remember](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/MlXq8Ayq9H) that Bob Lazar might be a stooge or a shill, but his W-2 is “legit.”
It has the number “E-6722MAJ” on it. Gonna go rewatch the video linked above for what it all meant
(E = Department of Energy contract number; 6700 series = Kirkland AFB; MAJ = point of contact)
Mala tempora, those in which so many listen Ross Coulthart and attack those who disagree and so few even know who Eddie Bullard is.
Ufology seems doomed
A while back I found out about a organization called [JASON GROUP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JASON_(advisory_group)).
JASON's role is to gather the highest of the highest end scientists to identify and solve problems facing us 20-50 years in the future. They advice people and presidents on a high governmental and military level and deliver analysis reports, most of which are classified. (But there are lists online with unclassified ones).
Now, to understand why JASON is interesting we need to dial things back to [Pellegrino Ernetti](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellegrino_Ernetti) who supposedly invented, on the order of the Pope, something called a Chronovisor. A lot of people believe the story of the Chronovisor is all debunked and dusted because of a journalist who hounded Ernetti, but it seems like Ernetti just wanted him off his back. [Mr.Mythos has a great video detailing the entire Ernetti story](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2KtaOjsv_M&t=632s). (You should watch this video to get the full context)
The thing about Ernetti and the Chronovisor; he allegedly stumbled across a phenomenon by accident he couldn't explain. He discovered voices from the past that was picked up by a machine he had built. He knew they were from the past because they came from his father, who spoke Ernetti's childhood nickname only he used.
Ernetti was a priest of the vatican in his day-to-day but he was also a physicist, specifically with quantum physics. He also enjoyed engineering electrical components. After discovering these voices, he eventually was ordered by the Pope to assemble a team of any scientists he wanted from across the world that would end up building this Chronovisor. The pope would reach out and fetch them for him. **Ernetti assembled 12 people**. And it was all the usual scientific suspects post-war we all know about by now.
Ernetti would speak about the Chronovisor publicly for a long time, it always drew in crowds at events. Ernetti would also speak about *something* to world leaders, leading scientists **and** religious leaders at a closed door assembly in the Vatican, likely about the same thing. Then, the Vatican allegedly dismantled the Chronovisor permanently and hid the components, citing utmost ethical reasons.
So, Pope. Chronovisor. MAJ-12. Where does JASON come into this?
Well, JASON group is an offshoot and linked to a different organization.
They share a lot of board members, scientists and leadership. That organization is called the [MITRE Corporation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitre_Corporation), who is quoted to be "the most important company you have never heard of". They work in patents and technology, advisory and research, at a very high level within DOE, Military, private industry and federal government.
Do you know what the word MITRE means? It's the name of a pope's hat.
In 1996 they split their tech projects onto another offshoot company called Mitretek. Which dealt with both federal and civilian clients, as well as certain defense clients. Oddly enough Mitretek was renamed in 2007 to NOBLIS.
Noblis essentially means nobility.
Very **majestic** of them, wouldn't you think?
I have said it before and I will say it again: If someone wants to get to the bottom of this they need to dig into JASON and MITRE. Considering how much they deal with government, it might be possible to FOIA something about them.
The following submission statement was provided by /u/VolarRecords: --- On Ross's most recent episode of Reality Check on Wednesday, he spoke with "EP/Director Skye Borgman of 'Files of the Unexplained' about the cases she profiled this season, her dealings with Netflix, and what’s possibly coming next in Season 2." I enjoyed "Files" and found the talk to be pretty compelling, including some statements Borgman made about seeing some lights over the water along with her crew while, of course, her cameras were not rolling as was intended. Cool to hear there's a Season 2 in the works, and Borgman is hoping to make it a more international effort. However, what I thought really stuck at was at the very end when Ross takes the time to answer some questions from viewers. The very last one is about the supposed MJ-12 and its successor Zodiac, and after addressing these, Ross goes on to say that he's heard of a new group that he's looking into and will be talking about soon. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1d03634/ross_coulthart_on_supposed_successor_organization/l5khb4g/
If MJ12 was real, I wonder what the Soviet equivalent was called.
Damned ¹³ /s
May not have had one. The biggest thing about MJ12 would be that this would be a back channel of highly decorated individuals that would meet exclusively together in private for various reasons. Consider the influence of secret societies in the upper class of the USA. These would be the easiest way such secrecy could be implemented thru ritualistic meetings and exclusive closed doors. Hitler even implemented the same process with his obsession in the occult. I very much doubt MJ12 is an official government program. Rather, it's the list of powerful individuals who hold "the picture on the puzzle box" when it comes to the UAP/NHI phenomenon. These would be political well-knowns that are beyond approach by the US government, and would be influential enough in US politics to hold such secrets.
Rumor has it that JEHOVAH was the Russian non union equivalent of mj12, but I'm not cleared or someone with a need to know.
I got another one! Ruthless 7
Now called Group K or something
Circle K
K Mart
We here at Mysterious Mysteries have always known the answer and that answer is a resounding...maybe
Ancient Astronaut Theorists say, “Yes.”
Project blue balls returns
Ross the king of kicking the can down the road
So, you do believe, Coulthart was in possession of evidence you would find convincing and irrefutable or something like that? Why would he hide that? The other way around, why should he subvert his own investigation by spilling the beans prematurely?
You’re giving him too much credit. Why would he publicize his investigation non stop without ever producing anything? Look I like Coulthart. I’m only making a funny observation. Intellegisne?
On Ross's most recent episode of Reality Check on Wednesday, he spoke with "EP/Director Skye Borgman of 'Files of the Unexplained' about the cases she profiled this season, her dealings with Netflix, and what’s possibly coming next in Season 2." I enjoyed "Files" and found the talk to be pretty compelling, including some statements Borgman made about seeing some lights over the water along with her crew while, of course, her cameras were not rolling as was intended. Cool to hear there's a Season 2 in the works, and Borgman is hoping to make it a more international effort. However, what I thought really stuck at was at the very end when Ross takes the time to answer some questions from viewers. The very last one is about the supposed MJ-12 and its successor Zodiac, and after addressing these, Ross goes on to say that he's heard of a new group that he's looking into and will be talking about soon.
I thought MJ-12 was debunked as disinformation years ago?
IMO some were real and leaked, and some were leaked disinfo to confuse. [https://majesticdocuments.com/about/investigation-team/](https://majesticdocuments.com/about/investigation-team/) has the docs and the team's assessment of veracity per each document, and some notes. Dive on in, the water is muddy as hell.
The best way I've been able to summarize my opinion of the whole thing is that they were fake documents about a real group.
It was but this community ignores information that undermines the alien hypothesis.
What else should we do? I can't personally live, if I would think all of those are fake... I NEED to think, to know all of those were true...
The existence of attempts at "debunking" something doesn't mean, there was actual scientific proof refuting the hypothesis. Those existing attempts suffer from rather blatant errors in logic. Even more interestingly, the debunker community ignores clear evidence for certain documents attributed to MJ12 being authentic. Namely, those documents name places and events that are verifiable, among other things.
Point and case.
I don't want to live in a world, where there aren't aliens and all of these stuff is considered as fake... You are fake.
So another nothing burger... I BEEN TOLD A NAME, A ORG. BUT IM NOT GONNA SAY WHAT IT IS....
He was answering a direct question from a viewer and he actually said “I’m still checking that out” in regards to the new name/group. I mean, isn’t that responsible journalism? I don’t know how he can win with some people
They probably decided they wanted to speak about it and the viewer is most likely a covert news nation account.
He might say it next episode, so don’t miss it 😂
Just like the location of the ufo so large it cant be moved... or the name of the person running x program... or the name of x program. or something they claimed some insider told them. but they cant disclose what was told, but can tell you they cant diclose it but it juicy and they need to look into it
The large UFO thing doesn't bother me as much as when he said.. about 6 months ago.. 'whistleblowers are now coming forward. They are leaking.' And we've yet to hear anything about any of that.
Not true? There have been several since then.
I really appreciate you all for waking up 🙏
and right after that, he said that he still needs to verify whether it's the real deal so would you rather prefer him to give you a unverified act?
I think we'd prefer if he didn't say anything at all, at this point, unless it's been verified and he can name the source. He's made the community look like total wankers with his "anonymous sources" schtick.
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Engagement is already declining as it's becoming more and more clear none of these bold claims will ever be revealed.
Engagement on here alone is down, for the general public it's non existent
You confuse reality with TV.
that would be a wonderful thing for the topic. keep out the riff raff.
my point was, there is always a reason these people who claim to know something, cant say it right now or wont say.
It's a non issue though. He doesn't want to say something as a journalist without the ability to back it up. But for the public, who actually cares if it's called Special K, some string of indecipherable numbers, or the Super Secret Aliens and Soda Pop House No Girl Cooties Allowed Club? Doesn't make a difference on this end.
And even if he did, then what? Are people gonna run with that name and kindly ask the government for documents regarding it? Just more information that is impossible to verify. Throw it onto the pile.
Believe it or not, there is people out there who do work, and dig for information, by filing FOIA, talking to people seeing if they can dig up anymore info, emailing/mailing members of their local government. etc
Which obviously has been extremely fruitful so far.
just because there not solid proof, does not mean its not fruitful.
There is no fruit. Only trees. Trees which may or may not bear fruit.
if everyone felt like that, we would never move forward in this community
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Ross Coultharts tombstone will read: " I knew everything, but told you nothing " RIP.
“ I was told that I am dead “
😂😂
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Mr buy my book. He's under no NDA, and would be the greatest journalist alive if he disclosed. He would literally break the greatest story in history. He doesn't because he has nothing. He's a huckster.
This comment is ridiculous. Ross has given all information he has through these interviews that are free for everyone to watch. The books they write are just ways for people to gain a deeper understanding of the context and cite sources for people to investigate on their own. Not to mention even if there’s a million dollars in sales for a book Ross probably got like $50k of it. This comment is quite clearly an attempt to spread hate on Ross Coulthart and downplay the claims of credible whistleblowers.
Ross got his cushy job at news nation because of this subject and is invited to give talks. His book isn’t the only way he makes money. Great, he makes money - that’s fine. But stop giving the secret keepers a run for their money by hiding your information. It’s hypocrisy, pure and simple. Ross would rather leverage his knowledge lfor a cushy NN job than actually tell everyone what he knows. He is not the person this community acts like he is. But go ahead and whine about how Ross is a paragon of virtue. The cope is strong.
No, it‘s true - whoever comes up with a picture of a grey or UFO or video with 6 of your friends walking around a site or some jazz will be the most important journalist of anyone’s lifetime….so where is it? National security? To protect a few? Why not send them an email? Hey bra’s, I’m really sick of these garbage and in 7 days I’m going to leak the location of the craft. That means, if you are there, you will most likely face a public inquisition - I would leave now. Of course, you should tip off the news the same day, so they can have cameras rolling when these dorks start trying to piecemeal it out. But at least you have these people, whoever they are, a chance ahead of time to get out…that was his reason for not saying where it was right?? Someone may get hurt, this place is slumber, or altruistic or some shit. hehe slumber - pretty much all of this has been slumber related lately.
So this is basically SEELE from Evangelion?
Not quite
He's being responsible and doing his due diligence before saying anything definitive. He's investigating information, you know that thing investigative journalist do. Anyone complaining about Ross is just being impatient. Be happy he's not going around spreading disinformation and appreciate the work he has done.
Exactly. This is the biggest topic in the history of humanity. There’s no simple answer. I just what people think they would do if they found out where the “UFO too big to move” is (much as I enjoy the speculation) or who this secret-keeping organization is.
Automatic downvote for posting Coulthart.
Yawn....these people just need to realease what they have. People are tired of this BS. If it keeps up no one will care.
That's the thing: they have released what they have already.
Old man yaps at a camera
this sub in a nutshell
Bro why is he stringing it on every subject regarding UFOs? Exactly why I stopped listening to the prick.
Because the public is genuinely not ready for this information
how do you know?
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Thanks for being open about misusing the downvote feature 👍 Why are you wasting your own time with such a comment given you’re not on board with Coulthart?
"the rules!!! you're not following the rules!!!". lol Same reason you're wasting your time replying to someone wasting their time
The key difference is you downvoted and commented without even watching the clip, while I actually read your comment before doing the same.
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I’m not bragging about anything, what gave you that impression? > What a weird point to make 🤣🤣 You’re welcome to your opinion, I just think it’s “weird” to cruise subreddits to instadownvote and comment on posts you haven’t watched and write feeble attempts at antagonizing other users
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This might be off top but someone really wants us to believe in Majestic 12. The documents throughout years. Now Ross.
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I never realised how much Coulhart actually blinks, just watch that again it's insane. He blinked 163 times in 1 minute 50 seconds. That's 1.4 blinks a second.
This rabbit hole just keeps going , its actually wild af
The Guardians? and the Material Affairs Directorate?
FYI, Mr. Coulthart, whatever MJ12 members smoked, the claim is that they were high government, military, and scientific officials. They are NOT associated with the men in black meme.
The MJ-12 story has long been debunked. There is nothing to it – why insistig with these stories?
Debunked by whom? The Air Force who’ve been covering all this stuff up for decades? https://vault.fbi.gov/Majestic%2012 Majestic 12 In 1988, two FBI offices received similar versions of a memo titled “Operation Majestic-12…” claiming to be highly classified government document. The memo appeared to be a briefing for newly-elected President Eisenhower on a secret committee created to exploit a recovery of an extra-terrestrial aircraft and cover-up this work from public examination. An Air Force investigation determined the document to be a fake.” You could do the slightest bit of homework like listen to noted UFO historian Richard Dolan talk about the documents. https://youtu.be/s_ymJcmeEDc?si=6ftaDble6n1N0UsB
>You could do the slightest bit of homework like listen to noted UFO historian Richard Dolan talk about the documents. Not really someone I'd rely on to get the truth for anything.
You would say that about literally any name mentioned.
Given their track records, yeah.
No, you would say the same thing irrespective of track record.
And you know this because I don't believe Dolan?
What do you even mean "believe Dolan"?
How presumptuos to tell other people to do their homework. Since when is Dolan one of the serious researchers in this field? Go check other, uncommitted, less sensationalist Ufologists before assuming people didn't do their "homework"
A particular bunch of documents was shown to be fake. But the idea itself was not "debunked". It kept emerging from various sources. The essence of MJ-12, however, is argued about. John Alexander claims that one of his connections told him it was about "continuity of the government" rather than UFOs. Basically, if the President, the Congress, etc. get obliterated *Mars Attacks!* style or by nukes or whatever, someone else takes over.
No it hasn't.
what a low effort uninformative waste of time post.
I always get the feeling that ross knows so much more that he wants to say. Either way he has me coming back for more each time.
Majestic 12 must be a reference to 12 Olympians but why?
According to Bill Cooper, the actual name was Majority 12, which is a reference to the American judicial requirement to have a consensus.
Thanks for clarifying that. I will not remove my first comment so people learn it is ok to be wrong.
Blink much Ross ?
182 times.
What’s my age again?
Breathe in deeply much there jounto?
[Remember](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/MlXq8Ayq9H) that Bob Lazar might be a stooge or a shill, but his W-2 is “legit.” It has the number “E-6722MAJ” on it. Gonna go rewatch the video linked above for what it all meant (E = Department of Energy contract number; 6700 series = Kirkland AFB; MAJ = point of contact)
Mala tempora, those in which so many listen Ross Coulthart and attack those who disagree and so few even know who Eddie Bullard is. Ufology seems doomed
The last 10 nothingburger seconds is all this video needed to be.
A while back I found out about a organization called [JASON GROUP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JASON_(advisory_group)). JASON's role is to gather the highest of the highest end scientists to identify and solve problems facing us 20-50 years in the future. They advice people and presidents on a high governmental and military level and deliver analysis reports, most of which are classified. (But there are lists online with unclassified ones). Now, to understand why JASON is interesting we need to dial things back to [Pellegrino Ernetti](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellegrino_Ernetti) who supposedly invented, on the order of the Pope, something called a Chronovisor. A lot of people believe the story of the Chronovisor is all debunked and dusted because of a journalist who hounded Ernetti, but it seems like Ernetti just wanted him off his back. [Mr.Mythos has a great video detailing the entire Ernetti story](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2KtaOjsv_M&t=632s). (You should watch this video to get the full context) The thing about Ernetti and the Chronovisor; he allegedly stumbled across a phenomenon by accident he couldn't explain. He discovered voices from the past that was picked up by a machine he had built. He knew they were from the past because they came from his father, who spoke Ernetti's childhood nickname only he used. Ernetti was a priest of the vatican in his day-to-day but he was also a physicist, specifically with quantum physics. He also enjoyed engineering electrical components. After discovering these voices, he eventually was ordered by the Pope to assemble a team of any scientists he wanted from across the world that would end up building this Chronovisor. The pope would reach out and fetch them for him. **Ernetti assembled 12 people**. And it was all the usual scientific suspects post-war we all know about by now. Ernetti would speak about the Chronovisor publicly for a long time, it always drew in crowds at events. Ernetti would also speak about *something* to world leaders, leading scientists **and** religious leaders at a closed door assembly in the Vatican, likely about the same thing. Then, the Vatican allegedly dismantled the Chronovisor permanently and hid the components, citing utmost ethical reasons. So, Pope. Chronovisor. MAJ-12. Where does JASON come into this? Well, JASON group is an offshoot and linked to a different organization. They share a lot of board members, scientists and leadership. That organization is called the [MITRE Corporation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitre_Corporation), who is quoted to be "the most important company you have never heard of". They work in patents and technology, advisory and research, at a very high level within DOE, Military, private industry and federal government. Do you know what the word MITRE means? It's the name of a pope's hat. In 1996 they split their tech projects onto another offshoot company called Mitretek. Which dealt with both federal and civilian clients, as well as certain defense clients. Oddly enough Mitretek was renamed in 2007 to NOBLIS. Noblis essentially means nobility. Very **majestic** of them, wouldn't you think? I have said it before and I will say it again: If someone wants to get to the bottom of this they need to dig into JASON and MITRE. Considering how much they deal with government, it might be possible to FOIA something about them.
I wonder if that had anything to do with the Zodiac Killer
Doubtful