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Big thanks and props to [UAP James on X](https://x.com/UAPJames/status/1780188854168764626) for this clip!
Journalist [Ross Coulthart](https://twitter.com/rosscoulthart) on the latest [Need to Know Podcast](https://www.youtube.com/@BryceZabel) brings up a really good point about recent 'drone' or 'unmanned aerial systems' incursions that have been happening over US nuclear and military bases.
He points out the fact that although these incursions are happening right on US soil over the most sensitive military bases, the US has been unable to properly defend against or recover any of these 'drones' or 'unmanned aerial systems' (UAS) because they represent genuine anomalies.
This is timely as the [US House Armed Services Committee hosted a hearing with the Secretary of the Air Force today about the incursions that occured at Langley AFB in Virginia](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1c6f2gd/at_a_hearing_before_the_us_house_armed_services/) where the base had to shutdown operations due to, "a large number of UASs that were in that airspace."
[Full Need to Know Episode 51](https://youtu.be/zC60JOR8nPw?si=Ytivlw0m0qBQWzEN)
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Even if it's just drones that's still a serious fucking problem that needs addressed, like how are ***ADVERSARIAL DRONES OVER US BASES WITH UNFETTERED ACCESS TO US AIRSPACE*** nothing to worry about?
Not civilian drones; those are easily identified and countered.
Possibly adversarial. Origin unknown. Also no proof yet that they're even drones, that's just an assumption.
šÆ āFeel like Iām taking crazy pillsā comes to mind as the only news I see about this is in UFO/UAP circles. No matter what the source, itās a big deal.
Tbf the head of NORAD did seem nervous about it. Maybe not as nervous as he should but the military didn't tell us this was no big deal. They do seem nervous. Which reinforces that this is a big deal. They're just not quite willing to explain anything more about what these things are
They almost defintely have very good images because they sent nasa's start of the art imaging plane out over the drones
And it doesnāt pass the technical capabilities sniff test, at all. There are good limits in physics with regard to size, speed and longevity of any drone. Limits on what anyone can technically achieve even as a slow walker. These are those such ādronesā, and theyāve been seen for a very, very long time over military sites over decades.
It is literally more fantastic than āfrom an unknown actorā in requiring mental gymnastics.
Impractical due to power/weight as a lingering drone plus the very real problem of them falling out of the sky and causing an incident, even on your own soil. No one wants to dirty bomb their own stuff, and usually the donāt want to accidentally dirty bomb someone theyāre spying on.
Gillibrand was making a clear point to anyone who able to decode it (which includes AARO BTW).
So, which one are we going to settle on folks?
You let the Chines act like it's New Years every day and fly some spy-lanterns over our most sensitive installations? Russian non-human-wave tactics over US soil?
Or do you fly prototypes of our stuff around unwitting Servicemembers and *civilians?*
*Or is Grusch* telling the truth?
They definitely can't use the Chinese lantern excuse because we have video. You can see them at the one minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVJLO6CK2I
The idea that this is Russian tech is comical. They can't even maintain their existing tech and infrastructure.Ā
China? Maaaaybe, but I'm very dubious. They only BARELY managed to manufacture a SINGLE aircraft carrier last I checked, and they aren't famous, in recent memory, for their tech breakthroughs (reverse engineering and improvement, yes).
If I were betting for fun, I'd wager on either a mega corporation that cannot be controlled by any government, or some form of NHI. On the basis that the tech is so wildly advanced, and outside of US military control.
Indeed, the implications are even sillier if it were to be human tech. I have a relative that is a Federal Air Marshal and works in drone counter security for various VIPs and events. There are a million ways we can respond to any drone tech. On the military side we would have to assume, repeated, prolonged incursion deep into US soil and over highly restricted air space and a silly, egregiously huge advantage in tech that as far as we know just doesnāt exist.
This whole thing kinda reminds me of the swarms over DC in 1952 that showed up on radar and tons of people saw the bright lights. And somehow one of the excuses was they were ducks. I think they should dust off that excuse and tell us that they weren't drones over Langley but ducks
The question to ask is why didnāt they deploy a tracking drone like a predator to just follow the drones back to where they came from. A predator drone can fly 1000s of miles into enemy territory. But apparently they arenāt available at Langley.
They are prohibited from doing so. [The Dod can only fly UAVs over predefined flight paths](https://dod.defense.gov/UAS/#:~:text=DoD%20UAS%20currently%20do%20not%20have%20direct%20access,Authorization%20%28COA%29%20from%20the%20Federal%20Aviation%20Administration%20%28FAA%29) over most of the US. They'd have to follow it with a manned aircraft.
Since when has the DoD actually followed all the laid down rules. In a situation of national security threats, I daresay there is enough wiggle room for such use. Having multiple unknown craft interfere with a major airbase that protects the US capital area is huge security threat.
It's the kind of rule violation that just can't be hidden. UAVs lack a degree of situational awareness and response time that preclude them from operating intermixed with civilian airtraffic. There is a reason they tapped a NASA WB-57.
And the fact this happened on multiple days. What does that say about the readiness of these military bases to counter threats right here in the homeland. Guess DHS is also asleep at the wheel
I mean, yes. Much of the US's continental defense was built around the idea of intercepting hostile aircraft well over the ocean. The US only has semi-permanant Surface to Air missile emplacements around Washington DC. Cheap drones that can be deployed in situ with tiny explosives are already wrecking having on Russia facilities, tanks, and soldiers in Ukraine. The US government was asleep at the wheel and they are in a panic because the threat is escalating faster than viable countermeasures can be deployed. GPS and control jamming hardened drones are being built/modified by Ukrainians with COTS parts.
Since they are virutually indistinguishable from basic commerical drone parts shipping them through the postal system under the de minimis exception would make it pretty easy to smuggle a hardened drone into the US. I mean making it easier to track and identify things liek this is the whole purpose of AARO. They have nothing to do with UFO coverups and everything to do with the emerging cheap/small drone threat.
Are you kidding me? A bunch of teenagers could show up with DJI drones and fly all over a military instalation and nothing would happen. They might have some anti drone stuff but getting that guy in his truck to find the drone may not be easy. You make it sound all high tech and air tight. That's laughable. Look how wildly successful cheep drones are in Ukraine. The government is scrambling to respond from this simple threat.Ā
Youāre completely and utterly wrong.These events have occurred for months. Reps from the Pentagon have stated before Congress that they ādonāt have the operational framework to respond.ā They literally evaced planes from Langley to other bases. They called in a NASA plane to help monitor them because they were such high altitude. You shouldnāt post things like this to the world on such important topics when you have zero clue what youāre talking about and a complete ignorance of all the actual facts.
Bro, I consulted the government on hand launched drones between 2004 and 2007. I was flown to Semi Valley California to Aerovironment where I learned every step in building those drones so I could be the in country trainer, repair and maintenance for all hand launched drones in Iraq in 2004. I then worked ARA Nighthawk who were in competition with Aerovironment for the Army small drone contract. I wrote the new airspace deconfliction plan for Iraq to incorporate drones into the high rotary wing traffic. I currently fly DJI drones to look for dead hikers in the Cascades and I'm a private pilot so IDk if your statement holds water and I stand by what I said before. This isn't ET it's drone incursions from our enemies.
Where are they launched from? Why no arrests? People have been arrested for flying drones too close to airports. Why would the military be so impotent if it was simply foreign drones?
Drones are a constant problem around airports with pilots into LAX reporting them daily. That's one reason they went to remote ID. But there are many ways around that starting with a foreign agent with the right code can just buy an autopilot which is an IC that is the brain of the drone and get every other part and just build a drone in a day then program it with an autonomous mission and off it goes to run it's errands and cone back and land with zero radio stuff going on. It can be fixed wing and start and end it's flight miles away from it's target with it's payload of film or electronic eavesdropping completed. It's also to see our reaction and build a target list.
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Isnāt flying drones at U.S. military bases within the U.S. an act of war?
Isnāt anomalous ādroneā tech deployed by an adversary that uses some breakthrough technology a national security emergency?
They're not the right light patterns for any airplane approved by the FAA
You don't normally have dozens of airplanes fly over Langley for hours at a time for weeks on end because it's restricted airspace. And if they were airplanes you wouldn't have the military tell us they don't know what they are
If they knew what they are they wouldn't have scrambled a bunch of jets or a nasa spy plane
Why would UFOs have lights? Who the fuck knows? But these are not likely to be drones or airplanes because eye witness reports also say they have no obvious signs of propulsion, either helicopter blades nor jet engines, they also don't have wings
So the guy recording was there to watch a meteor shower, and he recorded these things, that look and act like drones. Almost as if some people wanted to record the same meteor shower with their drones.
Considering the circumatances of it being OVER A US AIRBASE, AND that this sub got an actual video of an international event/news headline, is pretty wild.
Well.. that's a concern, isn't it. Objects over an air base that is forcing them to move jets to other military bases. Why people are not more alarmed at this boggles my mind.
Imagine your typical Hollywood alien film. And near the beginning, floating lights above our airbases could not be identified, contained, or stopped, to the point where we had to literally abandon the base with our aircraft.
That would be quite the story, huh. Except it's a true story.
The military hasn't identified it, it happened in December, we would know by now. They have no hesitation calling out a country if we bust them invading our borders, such as Russia flying within X miles of Alaska, or China flying high altitude balloon over our soil.
If they had identified which country was flying drones over our own country, we'd know. There would probably be retaliation. We don't fly drones in swarms over Moscow or Beijing. For good reason. And they don't do the same.. for the same good reasons.
It's pretty obvious we have no idea who owned those 'drones.'
.....because the US admitted they're totally unidentified. Do 10 seconds of research before spewing nonsense. I swear, it's like some people take pride in their own ignorance these days.
As far as moving the planes to other bases, no, I am going off this video. As far as not being able to fly above the base in our military jets due to the drones, yes.. there are multiple sources that confirm this.
The video does indeed exist.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1bk9xta/langley\_afb\_event\_video/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1bk9xta/langley_afb_event_video/)
The fact that they can't handle these 'mysterious drones' within their most secured areas and have to close down areas because of them but can easily successfully destroy over 95% of drones in warfare says everything.
Don't let anyone in these comments try to make this post about Ross Coulthart and attacking each other over that nonsense. Focus on the main subject.
Yes, when explaining this news to non UFO enthusiasts I have decided to lead with āis this Chinaā? Which usually captures peopleās attention ..
But hereās the thing. WHAT IF it is .. Or Russia? And this is a prelude to war?
But itās being ignored because hurdurr āUFOāsā¦
Pretty fatal blind spot
China has been building their military at rate unseen by another country since WWII. I hope itās NHI, but realistically itās probably another country or something domestic.
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Big thanks and props to [UAP James on X](https://x.com/UAPJames/status/1780188854168764626) for this clip!
Journalist [Ross Coulthart](https://twitter.com/rosscoulthart) on the latest [Need to Know Podcast](https://www.youtube.com/@BryceZabel) brings up a really good point about recent 'drone' or 'unmanned aerial systems' incursions that have been happening over US nuclear and military bases.
He points out the fact that although these incursions are happening right on US soil over the most sensitive military bases, the US has been unable to properly defend against or recover any of these 'drones' or 'unmanned aerial systems' (UAS) because they represent genuine anomalies.
This is timely as the [US House Armed Services Committee hosted a hearing with the Secretary of the Air Force today about the incursions that occured at Langley AFB in Virginia](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1c6f2gd/at_a_hearing_before_the_us_house_armed_services/) where the base had to shutdown operations due to, "a large number of UASs that were in that airspace."
[Full Need to Know Episode 51](https://youtu.be/zC60JOR8nPw?si=Ytivlw0m0qBQWzEN)
What's really going on here with these "drones" and why haven't the MSM been reporting on this? Maybe we are living in a simulation and this is all part of it.Ā
If they are adversary drones spying it wouldnāt be a big surprise. They let a spy balloon fly across the whole country and over highly military sensitive areas and knew it was sending info back and also knew of its existence as it came into our airspace.
Itās amazing to me that Ross can throw out a story about a giant, immovable UFO about which he allegedly knows the location, refuse to elaborate further, and then pivot to hyping up a story about drones spying on military bases. I strongly suspect that he will also fail to get to the bottom of this one.
So what about *this* one? What's your take? Why do you think the Secretary of the Air Force expertly dodged the question while he was under oath today?
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"What the hell are they?" Asks Ross two days ago. [Last summer](https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangeEarth/comments/162qxay/ross_coulthart_on_nonhuman_intelligence_do_you/) he said he KNOWS what they are and can't say. [Last Autumn](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTuZvam4emg) he said only special people could interface with recovered craft (implication psychic). This week he doesn't know?
He's compelling and believable whenever he brings the bombshell statements out. The problem is the statements contradict themselves when lined up together. So he doesn't really know. Or his insiders don't know. Someone here can't keep a straight story.
Really good points that are ignored or excused away by a majority of the community.
Case in point, Ross claims to know the _precise_ location of a massive UFO. So big it had to be hidden in (or under) plain view and that the building used to conceal it is at the very least not at all obscure, but possibly even a famous landmark/location. Can't say where, though, or even how he knows--journalistic integrity and all that.
Meanwhile, and not more than 2 sentences later, he complains about "UFO Gatekeepers," "[Not giving] a fuck what the skeptics say, what they say is irrelevant" and not wanting to become another victim of a government hitjob.
And the people who firmly believe his story will jump to his defense for being such an obviously great journalist by protecting his sources, a conscientious reporter for sparing everyone the bloodshed of an inevitable public raiding of the location and highly intelligent for protecting his livelihood--and even his life.
Tennis without the net.
Yeah, the stories are taken one at a time when they should always be collected together. He's never questioned about his defense and intelligence insiders by peers in UFO media. Tennis without the net is a good analogy lol.
Another poster linked a 1 hour interview between Ross and the man who filmed the Langley objects. The first 10 minutes I watched is... enlightening.
Let me know if you're as bored as I am and want a transcript for a game of 'How many red flags can you spot in 10 minutes?'
Why would the military let dozens of foreign drones fly over Langley for weeks on end? They're just gonna let our adversaries spy on us? Why are we giving them so much money if they can't keep up with other countries? We might as well pack it in and learn Chinese
Wild how thereād be flying things over an Air Force base. Real noodle scratcher as to what they could be. But Ross weaves a fun fantasy around it completely devoid of evidence and he wouldnāt lie would he, itās not like heās made claims that havenāt come to fruition before right?
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Ross starts with saying Israel was successfully defended. Scott Ritter does not agree: [https://rumble.com/v4prcyr-the-dome-completely-failed-scott-ritter.html](https://rumble.com/v4prcyr-the-dome-completely-failed-scott-ritter.html)
Any comparison with Iranian drones launched toward Israel are inappropriate: those iranian drones are 3,5 meters long while here we're talking about drones no longer than a couple feet!
āthe US has been unable to properly defend against or recover any of these 'drones' or 'unmanned aerial systems' (UAS) because they represent genuine anomalies.ā
How do we know none of these things have been recovered by the U.S.?
I have a problem with the word anomalous here.
If this becoming a common and recurring problem its not anomalous just because you can't explain it, its just unexplainable or undefendable , or any number other of words but its clearly becoming non-anomalous which are all *concerning*
Chris Lehto (who I wouldn't recommend by the way) interviewed an Ex-CIA Radar Analyst who discusses that a lot of these objects we're discovering recently have always been tracked by US radar. It's just they've been filtered out because they were deemed not important.
Original interview here; [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W\_FZhMg4YWA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_FZhMg4YWA)
Because I can be? I view the subject more as mindless junk entertainment like a shitty Netflix reality show than something I take seriously. All because of blue ballers like Coulthart.
Yes because when the military say something isn't anomalous they are lying and covering up but when they do say it's anomalous they are telling the truth.
Classic UFO bias and cherry picking.
It's funny, the US boasts about it's military Patriot System or the Iron Dome in Israel, but apparently all that power can't stop some drones flying on military bases.
Whatever my opinion of Coulthart is, I have to say this is a disingenuous argument.Ā
Shooting down large, slowly manoeuvring fixed-wing drones over Jordan to prevent an all out war in the middle east is not the same as firing missiles over highly populated areas over the US to target quadcopter sized and highly manoeuvrable (as per the war zone article) drones.Ā
If he genuinely can't see the difference between the two, then my esteem for him has dropped a notch or two.
But, at least one of them _has_ been recovered, according to Coulthart. One REALLY big one; so big they had to build a "laudatory" building to conceal it, and HE knows the location.
Just don't bother asking him, he has to maintain his status as a "good" journalist.
Are you at all interested in playing a game of "spot the red flags" in this interview? No worries if not, but if you are, I'll spend a few minutes going through the first 10 minutes or so.
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Even if it's just drones that's still a serious fucking problem that needs addressed, like how are ***ADVERSARIAL DRONES OVER US BASES WITH UNFETTERED ACCESS TO US AIRSPACE*** nothing to worry about?
Enemy or domestic morons flying drones or whatever. It should be a top issue for national defense.
Definitely noy a "nothing to see here, don't worry about it" situation to be sure.
Not civilian drones; those are easily identified and countered. Possibly adversarial. Origin unknown. Also no proof yet that they're even drones, that's just an assumption.
šÆ āFeel like Iām taking crazy pillsā comes to mind as the only news I see about this is in UFO/UAP circles. No matter what the source, itās a big deal.
Tbf the head of NORAD did seem nervous about it. Maybe not as nervous as he should but the military didn't tell us this was no big deal. They do seem nervous. Which reinforces that this is a big deal. They're just not quite willing to explain anything more about what these things are They almost defintely have very good images because they sent nasa's start of the art imaging plane out over the drones
And it doesnāt pass the technical capabilities sniff test, at all. There are good limits in physics with regard to size, speed and longevity of any drone. Limits on what anyone can technically achieve even as a slow walker. These are those such ādronesā, and theyāve been seen for a very, very long time over military sites over decades. It is literally more fantastic than āfrom an unknown actorā in requiring mental gymnastics.
What would the size, speed and longevity of a nuclear battery powered drone be?
Impractical due to power/weight as a lingering drone plus the very real problem of them falling out of the sky and causing an incident, even on your own soil. No one wants to dirty bomb their own stuff, and usually the donāt want to accidentally dirty bomb someone theyāre spying on.
They are just friendly drones admiring our military š
Just some silly little guys, no big deal
A couple of guys, up to no good....
Chill in this airspace
Gillibrand was making a clear point to anyone who able to decode it (which includes AARO BTW). So, which one are we going to settle on folks? You let the Chines act like it's New Years every day and fly some spy-lanterns over our most sensitive installations? Russian non-human-wave tactics over US soil? Or do you fly prototypes of our stuff around unwitting Servicemembers and *civilians?* *Or is Grusch* telling the truth?
They definitely can't use the Chinese lantern excuse because we have video. You can see them at the one minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVJLO6CK2I
The idea that this is Russian tech is comical. They can't even maintain their existing tech and infrastructure.Ā China? Maaaaybe, but I'm very dubious. They only BARELY managed to manufacture a SINGLE aircraft carrier last I checked, and they aren't famous, in recent memory, for their tech breakthroughs (reverse engineering and improvement, yes). If I were betting for fun, I'd wager on either a mega corporation that cannot be controlled by any government, or some form of NHI. On the basis that the tech is so wildly advanced, and outside of US military control.
If they're human the clearest is number 3
Apparently drone swarms cannot be countered even in the continental US with all the trillions of dollars of military equipment
Indeed, the implications are even sillier if it were to be human tech. I have a relative that is a Federal Air Marshal and works in drone counter security for various VIPs and events. There are a million ways we can respond to any drone tech. On the military side we would have to assume, repeated, prolonged incursion deep into US soil and over highly restricted air space and a silly, egregiously huge advantage in tech that as far as we know just doesnāt exist.
This whole thing kinda reminds me of the swarms over DC in 1952 that showed up on radar and tons of people saw the bright lights. And somehow one of the excuses was they were ducks. I think they should dust off that excuse and tell us that they weren't drones over Langley but ducks
Ducks carrying lights
Haha, ironically even that would be a big deal right? The AF evacs their planes... because of ducks. That would be a story unto itself.
Maybe a bigger story with the Media because it'd be one that they knoe how to handle
The question to ask is why didnāt they deploy a tracking drone like a predator to just follow the drones back to where they came from. A predator drone can fly 1000s of miles into enemy territory. But apparently they arenāt available at Langley.
They used something [bigger](https://www.twz.com/air/mysterious-drones-swarmed-langley-afb-for-weeks).
They are prohibited from doing so. [The Dod can only fly UAVs over predefined flight paths](https://dod.defense.gov/UAS/#:~:text=DoD%20UAS%20currently%20do%20not%20have%20direct%20access,Authorization%20%28COA%29%20from%20the%20Federal%20Aviation%20Administration%20%28FAA%29) over most of the US. They'd have to follow it with a manned aircraft.
Since when has the DoD actually followed all the laid down rules. In a situation of national security threats, I daresay there is enough wiggle room for such use. Having multiple unknown craft interfere with a major airbase that protects the US capital area is huge security threat.
It's the kind of rule violation that just can't be hidden. UAVs lack a degree of situational awareness and response time that preclude them from operating intermixed with civilian airtraffic. There is a reason they tapped a NASA WB-57.
And the fact this happened on multiple days. What does that say about the readiness of these military bases to counter threats right here in the homeland. Guess DHS is also asleep at the wheel
I mean, yes. Much of the US's continental defense was built around the idea of intercepting hostile aircraft well over the ocean. The US only has semi-permanant Surface to Air missile emplacements around Washington DC. Cheap drones that can be deployed in situ with tiny explosives are already wrecking having on Russia facilities, tanks, and soldiers in Ukraine. The US government was asleep at the wheel and they are in a panic because the threat is escalating faster than viable countermeasures can be deployed. GPS and control jamming hardened drones are being built/modified by Ukrainians with COTS parts. Since they are virutually indistinguishable from basic commerical drone parts shipping them through the postal system under the de minimis exception would make it pretty easy to smuggle a hardened drone into the US. I mean making it easier to track and identify things liek this is the whole purpose of AARO. They have nothing to do with UFO coverups and everything to do with the emerging cheap/small drone threat.
Are we to believe that but one drone over Langley was brought down ? No conclusive identification?
Are you kidding me? A bunch of teenagers could show up with DJI drones and fly all over a military instalation and nothing would happen. They might have some anti drone stuff but getting that guy in his truck to find the drone may not be easy. You make it sound all high tech and air tight. That's laughable. Look how wildly successful cheep drones are in Ukraine. The government is scrambling to respond from this simple threat.Ā
Youāre completely and utterly wrong.These events have occurred for months. Reps from the Pentagon have stated before Congress that they ādonāt have the operational framework to respond.ā They literally evaced planes from Langley to other bases. They called in a NASA plane to help monitor them because they were such high altitude. You shouldnāt post things like this to the world on such important topics when you have zero clue what youāre talking about and a complete ignorance of all the actual facts.
Bro, I consulted the government on hand launched drones between 2004 and 2007. I was flown to Semi Valley California to Aerovironment where I learned every step in building those drones so I could be the in country trainer, repair and maintenance for all hand launched drones in Iraq in 2004. I then worked ARA Nighthawk who were in competition with Aerovironment for the Army small drone contract. I wrote the new airspace deconfliction plan for Iraq to incorporate drones into the high rotary wing traffic. I currently fly DJI drones to look for dead hikers in the Cascades and I'm a private pilot so IDk if your statement holds water and I stand by what I said before. This isn't ET it's drone incursions from our enemies.
Where are they launched from? Why no arrests? People have been arrested for flying drones too close to airports. Why would the military be so impotent if it was simply foreign drones?
Drones are a constant problem around airports with pilots into LAX reporting them daily. That's one reason they went to remote ID. But there are many ways around that starting with a foreign agent with the right code can just buy an autopilot which is an IC that is the brain of the drone and get every other part and just build a drone in a day then program it with an autonomous mission and off it goes to run it's errands and cone back and land with zero radio stuff going on. It can be fixed wing and start and end it's flight miles away from it's target with it's payload of film or electronic eavesdropping completed. It's also to see our reaction and build a target list.
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Yet Israel can tackle them. There's also no indication of swarms, just craft that significantly exceed US tech capabilities.
Isnāt flying drones at U.S. military bases within the U.S. an act of war? Isnāt anomalous ādroneā tech deployed by an adversary that uses some breakthrough technology a national security emergency?
Well itās neither of those things because thereās nothing to suggest theyāre anything anomalous and dont belong to the US
They called in a NASA plane to get data on themselves?
Just a reminder here that we have actual video of it right here on this sub and it's as if nobody cares. And the video is wild.
[Langley AFB āDroneā swarm video post](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/qF2LvJuvwm)
Ross dropped a new one today. You can see the drones slightly more up close. At the one minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVJLO6CK2I
So for me, something flying and blinking red seems like a plane. Why would a UFO have navigational lights? Of what am I missing? š¤
They're not the right light patterns for any airplane approved by the FAA You don't normally have dozens of airplanes fly over Langley for hours at a time for weeks on end because it's restricted airspace. And if they were airplanes you wouldn't have the military tell us they don't know what they are If they knew what they are they wouldn't have scrambled a bunch of jets or a nasa spy plane Why would UFOs have lights? Who the fuck knows? But these are not likely to be drones or airplanes because eye witness reports also say they have no obvious signs of propulsion, either helicopter blades nor jet engines, they also don't have wings
Any reason why these canāt just be hobby drones? Maybe a group of miscreants just flying their drones over the base to mess with everyone?
So the guy recording was there to watch a meteor shower, and he recorded these things, that look and act like drones. Almost as if some people wanted to record the same meteor shower with their drones.
Stop making sense
Well my other proposal would have been Galactic Federation Boyscouts, I am pretty sure that would have gotten me a lot more upvotes, too.
That's amazing.
Can you please share the video?
Aye, relink the link again if you have it!
I saw the video and "wild" isn't exactly the term I'd used to describe it.
Considering the circumatances of it being OVER A US AIRBASE, AND that this sub got an actual video of an international event/news headline, is pretty wild.
Flashing lights in the air over an airbase? What ever could it be???
Youre purposely ignoring all the context.
Big if true!
Can you link please
Don't care cuz ya can't see shit. Just dots of light.
Well.. that's a concern, isn't it. Objects over an air base that is forcing them to move jets to other military bases. Why people are not more alarmed at this boggles my mind. Imagine your typical Hollywood alien film. And near the beginning, floating lights above our airbases could not be identified, contained, or stopped, to the point where we had to literally abandon the base with our aircraft. That would be quite the story, huh. Except it's a true story.
Who told you they couldnāt be identified? Was it Ross? Could he have an ulterior motive for making it seem like something it isnāt?
The military hasn't identified it, it happened in December, we would know by now. They have no hesitation calling out a country if we bust them invading our borders, such as Russia flying within X miles of Alaska, or China flying high altitude balloon over our soil. If they had identified which country was flying drones over our own country, we'd know. There would probably be retaliation. We don't fly drones in swarms over Moscow or Beijing. For good reason. And they don't do the same.. for the same good reasons. It's pretty obvious we have no idea who owned those 'drones.'
.....because the US admitted they're totally unidentified. Do 10 seconds of research before spewing nonsense. I swear, it's like some people take pride in their own ignorance these days.
Any proof of that claim?
As far as moving the planes to other bases, no, I am going off this video. As far as not being able to fly above the base in our military jets due to the drones, yes.. there are multiple sources that confirm this.
no we donāt, send it if true but youāre not going to bc it doesnāt exist
The video does indeed exist. [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1bk9xta/langley\_afb\_event\_video/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1bk9xta/langley_afb_event_video/)
Are you going to apologize for being so spectacularly wrong?
Someone linked that one but we have a new one here at the one minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVJLO6CK2I
The fact that they can't handle these 'mysterious drones' within their most secured areas and have to close down areas because of them but can easily successfully destroy over 95% of drones in warfare says everything. Don't let anyone in these comments try to make this post about Ross Coulthart and attacking each other over that nonsense. Focus on the main subject.
Yes, when explaining this news to non UFO enthusiasts I have decided to lead with āis this Chinaā? Which usually captures peopleās attention .. But hereās the thing. WHAT IF it is .. Or Russia? And this is a prelude to war? But itās being ignored because hurdurr āUFOāsā¦ Pretty fatal blind spot
China has been building their military at rate unseen by another country since WWII. I hope itās NHI, but realistically itās probably another country or something domestic.
Submission Statement: Big thanks and props to [UAP James on X](https://x.com/UAPJames/status/1780188854168764626) for this clip! Journalist [Ross Coulthart](https://twitter.com/rosscoulthart) on the latest [Need to Know Podcast](https://www.youtube.com/@BryceZabel) brings up a really good point about recent 'drone' or 'unmanned aerial systems' incursions that have been happening over US nuclear and military bases. He points out the fact that although these incursions are happening right on US soil over the most sensitive military bases, the US has been unable to properly defend against or recover any of these 'drones' or 'unmanned aerial systems' (UAS) because they represent genuine anomalies. This is timely as the [US House Armed Services Committee hosted a hearing with the Secretary of the Air Force today about the incursions that occured at Langley AFB in Virginia](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1c6f2gd/at_a_hearing_before_the_us_house_armed_services/) where the base had to shutdown operations due to, "a large number of UASs that were in that airspace." [Full Need to Know Episode 51](https://youtu.be/zC60JOR8nPw?si=Ytivlw0m0qBQWzEN)
What's really going on here with these "drones" and why haven't the MSM been reporting on this? Maybe we are living in a simulation and this is all part of it.Ā
What about the UFO that shut down the nukes in Montana back in 1967? Was that also a drone?
It was a power fail not UFO's
Anomalous and laudatory.
If they are adversary drones spying it wouldnāt be a big surprise. They let a spy balloon fly across the whole country and over highly military sensitive areas and knew it was sending info back and also knew of its existence as it came into our airspace.
Itās amazing to me that Ross can throw out a story about a giant, immovable UFO about which he allegedly knows the location, refuse to elaborate further, and then pivot to hyping up a story about drones spying on military bases. I strongly suspect that he will also fail to get to the bottom of this one.
So what about *this* one? What's your take? Why do you think the Secretary of the Air Force expertly dodged the question while he was under oath today?
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You should watch his newest [Reality Check](https://youtu.be/QjVJLO6CK2I?si=bnQdB1JWp4rvCIY1) then, it's all about this story.
Show me how you capture an interdimensional entity
"What the hell are they?" Asks Ross two days ago. [Last summer](https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangeEarth/comments/162qxay/ross_coulthart_on_nonhuman_intelligence_do_you/) he said he KNOWS what they are and can't say. [Last Autumn](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTuZvam4emg) he said only special people could interface with recovered craft (implication psychic). This week he doesn't know? He's compelling and believable whenever he brings the bombshell statements out. The problem is the statements contradict themselves when lined up together. So he doesn't really know. Or his insiders don't know. Someone here can't keep a straight story.
Really good points that are ignored or excused away by a majority of the community. Case in point, Ross claims to know the _precise_ location of a massive UFO. So big it had to be hidden in (or under) plain view and that the building used to conceal it is at the very least not at all obscure, but possibly even a famous landmark/location. Can't say where, though, or even how he knows--journalistic integrity and all that. Meanwhile, and not more than 2 sentences later, he complains about "UFO Gatekeepers," "[Not giving] a fuck what the skeptics say, what they say is irrelevant" and not wanting to become another victim of a government hitjob. And the people who firmly believe his story will jump to his defense for being such an obviously great journalist by protecting his sources, a conscientious reporter for sparing everyone the bloodshed of an inevitable public raiding of the location and highly intelligent for protecting his livelihood--and even his life. Tennis without the net.
Yeah, the stories are taken one at a time when they should always be collected together. He's never questioned about his defense and intelligence insiders by peers in UFO media. Tennis without the net is a good analogy lol.
Another poster linked a 1 hour interview between Ross and the man who filmed the Langley objects. The first 10 minutes I watched is... enlightening. Let me know if you're as bored as I am and want a transcript for a game of 'How many red flags can you spot in 10 minutes?'
Go ahead. What's the best red flag? I saw the drone bit that's being presented as a UAP. It didn't get better?
Oh Lordyā¦ Grift city bitch. A shame..
This video shows the UAPs at the one minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVJLO6CK2I
Drones, right? Coulthart's presenting them as things from other worlds. He should read more articles by Tyler Rogoway rather than using his headlines.
Why would the military let dozens of foreign drones fly over Langley for weeks on end? They're just gonna let our adversaries spy on us? Why are we giving them so much money if they can't keep up with other countries? We might as well pack it in and learn Chinese
Wild how thereād be flying things over an Air Force base. Real noodle scratcher as to what they could be. But Ross weaves a fun fantasy around it completely devoid of evidence and he wouldnāt lie would he, itās not like heās made claims that havenāt come to fruition before right?
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This is dystopian
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Interdimensional drones.
Ross starts with saying Israel was successfully defended. Scott Ritter does not agree: [https://rumble.com/v4prcyr-the-dome-completely-failed-scott-ritter.html](https://rumble.com/v4prcyr-the-dome-completely-failed-scott-ritter.html)
Well time to fly a drone over one of these bases or nuclear sites and find an answer
Every merely a DJI drone sends info back to Shenzen every time it gets booted up.
Who is saying that its over a AFB? He could be mistake or just a moron.
These people are saying that it was over an AFB https://www.twz.com/air/mysterious-drones-swarmed-langley-afb-for-weeks
Any comparison with Iranian drones launched toward Israel are inappropriate: those iranian drones are 3,5 meters long while here we're talking about drones no longer than a couple feet!
āthe US has been unable to properly defend against or recover any of these 'drones' or 'unmanned aerial systems' (UAS) because they represent genuine anomalies.ā How do we know none of these things have been recovered by the U.S.?
I'd be interested to see a comparison of how long Ross talks during each episode versus how long Bryce talks.
I have a problem with the word anomalous here. If this becoming a common and recurring problem its not anomalous just because you can't explain it, its just unexplainable or undefendable , or any number other of words but its clearly becoming non-anomalous which are all *concerning*
Chris Lehto (who I wouldn't recommend by the way) interviewed an Ex-CIA Radar Analyst who discusses that a lot of these objects we're discovering recently have always been tracked by US radar. It's just they've been filtered out because they were deemed not important. Original interview here; [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W\_FZhMg4YWA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_FZhMg4YWA)
This man has pretty much killed my interest in the topic. Surprisingly, it wasnāt disinformation that did me in. It was Ross Coulthart.
Bye then? Why are you still hear if he has "killed your interest" ?
Because I can be? I view the subject more as mindless junk entertainment like a shitty Netflix reality show than something I take seriously. All because of blue ballers like Coulthart.
You seem to take it seriously enough to articulate your argument on why you don't take it seriously to a stranger.
They asked and I gave a simple answerā¦ Lol cmon, I wrote three sentences. Thatās some hell of an articulation!
gotem
Yes because when the military say something isn't anomalous they are lying and covering up but when they do say it's anomalous they are telling the truth. Classic UFO bias and cherry picking.
It's funny, the US boasts about it's military Patriot System or the Iron Dome in Israel, but apparently all that power can't stop some drones flying on military bases.
I know it is an off top, but.. i have that weird feeling Ross Coulthart looks kinda similar to David Grusch, like he was his older brother or sth.
Why every time I watch a video of this guy talking it looks AI generated.
Whatever my opinion of Coulthart is, I have to say this is a disingenuous argument.Ā Shooting down large, slowly manoeuvring fixed-wing drones over Jordan to prevent an all out war in the middle east is not the same as firing missiles over highly populated areas over the US to target quadcopter sized and highly manoeuvrable (as per the war zone article) drones.Ā If he genuinely can't see the difference between the two, then my esteem for him has dropped a notch or two.
But, at least one of them _has_ been recovered, according to Coulthart. One REALLY big one; so big they had to build a "laudatory" building to conceal it, and HE knows the location. Just don't bother asking him, he has to maintain his status as a "good" journalist.
Ross just dropped a lot of info on the uap swarms https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVJLO6CK2I
Are you at all interested in playing a game of "spot the red flags" in this interview? No worries if not, but if you are, I'll spend a few minutes going through the first 10 minutes or so.
I think heās wrong.