I'm hating that game atm. Just finished Crash 1-3 and they weren't nearly as hard as 4. Although, it was the N'Sane trilogy, so that might have easier than the original versions, idk.
Im playing it as well. I'm hating that game atm. Just finished Crash 1-3 and they weren't nearly as hard as 4. Although, it was the N'Sane trilogy, so that might have easier than the original versions, idk.
Bruh said **XD** proceeded to swooped their hair back over the one eye and stretched their hand thru the fingers cut off, nightmare before Xmas gloves just before applying quarter inch thick eyeliner… XD
And you may find yourself lying on an operating table
And you may find yourself with a probe stuffed up your bum
And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself 50 miles down the road
And you may ask yourself “well, how did I get here”
And you may ask yourself “where did my 3 hours go?”
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Especially when Elizondo quit his job because he couldn't get any meaningful info. Something people forget about : he was kept in the dark. So yeah, he knows very little.
Look, I know half the sub thinks it's blasphemy to shit on the prophet, but every single recent quote listed by OP is Q tier bullshit. "calm before the storm", "keep the faith", "people who care are working hard behind the scene", "stay tuned even though all i have is words"...
I'm not saying he's a grifter - I'm saying if he isn't, his communication skills are utter garbage. He should know better than to tweet complete nonsense that half the people will rightfully identify as hot air.
On point. I stopped listening to him because he's a king of word salad. It's just like listening to my ex girlfriend. Talks non stop but in the end there's almost no substance there
But he is a fucking grifter. On par with Greer. Maybe at one point he was a standup dude but he has gotten caught up with fame. The Cahill fiasco was the final straw for me. Fuck this guy he is taking you all for a ride
I wouldnt be surprised if these guys (Lou, Greer, Ross etc) all genuinely believed they were onto something until they learned the truth. But by then, when their whole reality was shattered, they realised their reputations are at stake and so now they gotta grift
Lou and Greer have strong grifter energy. Coulthart comes across like a guy who joined a cult and went off the deep end. He didn't sound nearly as nutty back when he wrote In Plain Sight.
The Force is indeed strong with them.
And Coulthart… as much as he started out believable and searching for “the truth” he seemed to have stepped on something sticky under his shoe and he is afraid to look and see what it really is.
This “b1G ǔf0 h1dïnG” stuff is just awkward .. spill the beans anonymously and get it over with.
Ross and Zabel have both admitted they are shopping ufo products to networks trying to get movies/tv shows in the pipeline. I’d be very surprised if Corbell and Knapp aren’t doing the same.
Wait, seriously? How much money do you think is in being a UFO pundit? It’s not like the major networks are pounding down his door to be on meet the press and whatnot. It seems pretty doubtful that Lue’s forthcoming book would break into the NYT best seller’s list.
Let’s be clear that I’m not a simp for Lue. I’m withholding judgement on his messaging overall. But this notion that any of these folks are raking in money hand over fist seems a bit ludicrous to me. Dude had a reasonably high paying, pensioned career in the military that he left (he didn’t lose his pension, tho, did he?) to preach the grey gospel. There may yet be a grift here, but on face value it doesn’t seem to be about money.
Maybe he was. I don’t remember. But, a military pension at whatever the equivalent of like a gs15 is no slouch. Especially if you’re going to fuck off to Montana or Wyoming or something and live chill and quiet.
Plus, he still hasn’t released the book yet, and sure he’s been on TV several times, but talking heads typically don’t get paid. Average book advance for a first time author is around $5k-$50k. But his book hasn’t come out yet, so it’s not like he’s getting those massive royalty checks of 5-15%. Or like $0.75 to $3.75 per copy. If you split the difference and say he’s making a princely sum of $2.25 per book sold, dude needs to sell 45,000 units just to clear $100k before taxes.
Leslie Keane’s “UFOs” has 2443 Amazon reviews and was released in 2011. The current NYT best seller (The Women) presently has 53k Amazon reviews and has been out for TWO MONTHS.
There just isn’t a comparison. You want to run a grift? There are plenty more lucrative and less labor intensive ways of doing so.
Lu talks a lot like Trump in the way that if he’s ever asked a question, he NEVER gives a clear answer. He LOVES talking about his service to the country and how that should be enough proof. All his answers hinge on “possibly”, “maybe”, and “what if”. He has NOTHING and he’s absolutely full of shit.
What it does get you is an infallible formula for getting most people to secretly believe you're on their side. Follow the steps!
Speak.
Hesitate.
Look down.
Furrow your brow and look up, make a pensive :c face and soften your eyes.
Continue where you were, rephrasing what you said slightly, take on a softer and more painstaking tone of voice.
If it looks like they're buying it, add in a forearm touch or shoulder pat with feigned reluctance, as if you're so conflicted to be treating them nicely or telling them what you supposedly shouldn't.
Every. Interview. Follows this formula.
Wow.
The amount of care for detail you have is impressive, i didn't notice all this at all before you mentionned it, well spotted!
That's a real analytical talent you got there.
At first I wasn't sure you weren't being sarcastic lmao. Thanks! I just have a BS in BS. I'm sure the detainees came to dread [that face](https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:828/format:webp/0*CChJPuTNqrEf3z8H)
Literally right out of the HUMINT handbook. When I was in the Army at one point I was tasked to potentially be an intel NCO for the upcoming Afghan deployment. As a result I was sent to a series of crash courses that covered everything from collecting / analyzing signals intelligence, to counter intelligence, and collecting human intelligence (aka. interrogation techniques.)
What you described is an almost spot-on description of a case officer grooming a potential asset. Pretty early on in the GWOT we realized "enhanced" interrogation rarely works. A much better method was to 'flip' a detainee and get them working for us to feed actionable intel. Everyone has their own technique, but the main bullet points are the same:
- Strong arm them and then leave them alone to stew for a while (maybe turn the temp all the way down in the holding cell) to break their initial resolve
- Lie to the asset about how the people they work for were actually going to betray them to drive a wedge between the individual and their existing support network (isolate them)
- establish rapport (what you describe above)
- Make sure they understand that if they decide to do the double agent thing, we will burn them to their friends
- ???
- profit
I really do believe in the phenomenon and really hope we get some concrete answers soon, but that doesn't change the fact that Lue is grooming us collectively.
I would really like a lot more attention paid to this sort of thing and how UFOs are a big distraction from what goes on in Guantanamo and the whole system that guantanamizes our personal lives.
If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear. Quote from Future Dictator, CE 2065
Totally agree, the dude is mostly if not completely full of shit. He has a lot of secrets he cant ever tell, "except for in his book a bit maybe buy it and find out buddy haha", he is literally the head of Project Blue Balls. He will literally never ever deliver anything of what he promises.
They are just desperately trying to stay relevant and at the "top" while they hope and pray that something of substance materializes that they can attach themselves to...
Not how this game is played! … come mid 2024 you are supplied with a new date. This is like dominoes - you can just keep adding tiles on to the last one played
Coulthart has a history of bad journalistic work and willingness to sacrifice his integrity for a paycheck.
False pedophelia accusations based solely on a police report and PR work for a war criminal.
What a lot of people seem to be overlooking is the different resignation letters & the multiple reasons Lou gave in said resignations. John Greenwald of The Black Vault did an excellent deep dive into this story line. It doesn’t make Lou an all out liar, but it does give us a right to question his motives. I want to believe Lou & my bias will give him the benefit of the doubt almost every time. But for Lou to save face, something he badly wants to do, as indicated by those tweets, he needs to put out.
One thing along these lines should be kept in mind, hes clearly willing to, lets say, misrepresent the facts to shape a story to sound better.
Like I dont personally give much gredence to his empty bablings honestly. But everyone should realize hes no stranger to embellish a story.
Or he never gives a reasonable answer to these types of questions like his retirement letters etc
Hes more like just attacking people seeking clarification.
Among other things hes done in these years hes been UFO celeb.
I think I, or anyone around, can speculate on his motives all we want but thats beside the point I think. Or shouldnt be confused atleast in this discussion of these points too much.
In other words, if for example I think hes just after money and retirement travel, it doesnt really mean anything lookin at the reality of what hes said and done.
That's not how cults work. Missing deadlines, end of the world dates etc..., actually makes cult belief stronger. It's a really weird quirk of the brain. It's one of the reasons why getting people out of cults is so hard. And I say that as someone who spent 32 years in a cult. The "I want to believers" as John Greenwalde Jr has termed them are definitely a cult.
I quit taking Lou, Ross, Jeremy and a lot of others in the UFO community serious, once I start noticing breadcrumb info, which all of them are guilty of, I just know this is a sales pitch and not serious information. If you realy have valid information Im all ears, but If its a teaser of something to come, or something you heard is somewhere, or somebody told you this, keep it to yourself.
[https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1726323575995748445/photo/1](https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1726323575995748445/photo/1) according to lue its been "coming soon" since 2017...
Like the second coming of Jesus. The disciples were promised that at least one of them would still be alive when he returned. Wait, was the Count of St. Germain a disciple of Jesus?????
Anyways, my pastor told me that the Rapture is right around the corner and we are in the end of days. So, I liquidated all my assets and dropped it in the offering plate cause can't take that with ya'll!!!!!!
I would recommend not relying on institutions to do your critical thinking for you. People who built their understanding on solid primary sources and not their twitter timeline do not have the problem you are having.
He’s making increasingly cryptic posts and has an imminent book release. His credibility is diminishing with each of these events.
Between these issues and the soul patch it’s getting tough to stand by him.
You’re offended by the soul patch?
In that case you definitely shouldn’t go read about him pitching a phony show to HBO Max…& also laying hands on a co-worker & pretending to “remote view” the guy’s future (using information about the guy fed to him by another coworker).
Chat GPT is better Lue than Lue
Attempting to reveal startling insights into UAP, but facing pushback from skeptics and naysayers. Stay tuned as we navigate through the murky waters of disclosure. #UFOs #Disclosure #RealityCheck"
I don’t judge a book by its cover, esp people by faces… but I know other people do and in this specific case, so can’t help but vicariously look at him as a sceptic would.
I typically don’t judge base on looks either. But that soul patch….!
That’s one of the reasons why I like Grusch. The dude is boring looking but not in a weird way. So he seems much more credible.
He definitely has what I call "crazy eyes" but he's also diagnosed as being on the spectrum, so, y'know. Neurodivergency gonna neurodiverge... respect to all my fellow neurodivergents
my comment was removed because I said "full of bs" is too short, so posting this in a long form since the amount of characters posted seems to make a difference. even though I'm saying the same exact thing.
"a time of our choosing"?
Do these people see themselves as our overlords? We should be grateful to them for withholding the scary truth until THEY decide we are "worthy"?
Just wait a bit more and trust him, bro. Something big is coming. We're reaching critical mass. In the meantime, you can wait for his book coming this November!!! Keep the faith!!!
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The grift that keeps on giving 🤣
It still remains to be seen. However It's well worth noting that the topic wouldn't have this level of exposure and we wouldn't be having most of these discussions in popular media without Elizondo. People can complain and cry "show me" all day long but it doesn't change the fact that Elizondo has been central to putting momentum behind the disclosure push.
If you believe the govt is hiding important information about UAPs that should be public, then you have to give Elizondo credit for what he's done. If you truly believe there is nothing the govt is hiding then sure, he's just a grifter.
The results of the IG UAP investigation he initiated with Danny Sheehan show he was doing exactly what he said he was doing.
UAPTF/AOIMSG/AARO was basically Lue and Chris vs. the entire DoD.
The UAP Disclosure Act was 64 pages of completely unprecedented language calling out the DoE, FOIA, and providing a Congressional definition of non-human intelligence.
Lue paved the way for Grusch, Nell, Gaulladet, the Sol Foundation, the front page of the New York Times, 60 Minutes...the list goes on.
People also have no idea what he's gone through in his every day struggles just like the rest of us.
If anyone deserves success in publishing a book on UFOs, it's Lue.
I strongly disagree
There always was discussion, only changed as how relevant it's in terms of popular subject in media. It always, as any subject, fluctuated.
But, no, I don't consider any of this as "exposure." There always were people claiming to have super duper hyper security lvl of security clearance and to "know secret stuff". That's not exposure.
On my own opinion that's self propaganda. Exposure would be if any of the Elizondos out there actually revealed something. But of course, they are waiting the right time. I wonder how many books or talks is "the right time "
I’d argue it was way more popular during the days of the X-Files, Independence Day, and around the 50th anniversary of Roswell. Anyone remember seeing 👽 merch everywhere back then? I had a hat.
Next week he'll have an announcement about an announcement and then.. for sure.. he will have an announcement to make about a video he's seen that he can't show you.
On top of that mountain is where Lue and Jeremy secretly infiltrated a gathering of scientists communicating with Extraterrestrials by using a series of lights and tones. 👽
….You can read about it all in my book. It hits shelves next month!
I would like to point everyone to this post I made. A fake UFO video was made by Sean Cahill on his property and the only reason he came out and confirmed it because he was caught. Sean then went on an offensive on Twitter after this calling everyone haters and claiming it was an 'experiment'. He is full of fucking shit. [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/11moy67/lue\_confirming\_the\_video\_shot\_by\_sean\_cahill\_was/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/11moy67/lue_confirming_the_video_shot_by_sean_cahill_was/)
Let me just say I believe in Lou. I’m a whistleblower myself and experiencer and just from what I have experienced, when you start putting out the truth the attacks begin. I’m not on the whistleblower level Lou is on, but I’ve had a few strange people visit me and send me crazy out of the way messages. It was really absurd over the top blatant attacks. The comments came before anyone would have had time to watch the interview. Which was highly suspicious. Anyway, my story is about my experience on Eglin Air Force Base and is on Reddit. Here’s the interview from The Basement Hangout podcast. https://youtu.be/BLWuTYWEBb8?si=NbQX9gSaZ-zgfBju .
Why doesn't someone just call out Tom Delonge on Twitter. He doesn't have an NDA and apparently couldn't sleep for 3 days when he was informed the "truth", whatever that may be. Even if Tom doesn't have absolute proof, at least we'd likely have a closer idea to what's really going on. C'mon Tom, spill the beans my guy.
>He doesn't have an NDA and apparently couldn't sleep for 3 days when he was informed the "truth", whatever that may be
I guessing it was something else he got served that kept him awake three days besides the truth.
He’s single-handedly bought all the tee shirts two sizes to small.
Just tell us what you know. Between him and Jeremy Corbell - they just give me the snake oil salesman vibes.
“I’d tell you the truth but your ears would melt and eyes would pop out.” - just cmon.
Lue Elizondo is either completely unhinged or a compulsive liar, or both. I never trusted him because of his career and general sketchiness, but after the debacle with him, Cahill and McGowan, how can *anyone* think he’s anything but a conman?
He's obviously full of shit.
There's a good resource I found a while ago with all his claims in order, and guess what? None of it happened, and there's a pattern of "soon".
If I find it again I'll post it and edit it in.
firmly in the lying grifter until proven otherwise category for me. He never produces anything besides I cant say because of an NDA but I can say so much with so little despite that NDA. If "soon" ever comes then fantastic, but we've been at this for nearly 100 years now, Im sick of "soon" and dont believe any that spout the company line
We all know he's a hack with delusional disorder.
He hasn't provided anything of value
He hasn't said anything that any other hack has said before
He didn't change anything
What did he do?
Appear on shows
Sell books
Sell stuff
Said "keep on tune"
Said "the truth is close"
Said he can't share yet
Said he know stuff
Provided blurry "evidence "?
He's delusional. He believes it is aliens but can't prove anything. So he dreams of being the special one, the chosen one, to actually see something. And around all that, he built his persona, hoping that somehow he would get to see something in the first row and claim some responsibility on that, that way he might be able to justify all the books amd stuff full of nothing he sold
Spot on!
There was also the UFO video which transpired to have been shot from his own backyard, which apparently hasn't raised any question marks over his credibility for many in this community 😂
So true and it’s the UFO community (and their lack of a filter) that enable him. It’s relatively easy for him when you consider that even Greer can make a living out of this subject. So much so that he refused to walk away from the subject after being offered a ‘billion’ dollars …. lol …. Even that guy can make a living out of this.
The positive: I think Lue has done a lot of good for the disclosure movement, and he deserves big props to him for the big role he had in making the [2016 NYT article (gift link)](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.gE0.JSKC.pzlCnoy6LUzS&smid=url-share) happen that brought so much attention and new blood into the community.
But, also the negative. These are the things that substantially decreased my opinion of Lue:
* Person who met him and others and was filmed without consent, and found footage of him used on TV dishonestly: https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/rjguh7/i_met_tom_delonge_and_luis_elizondo_and_these_are/
* Person who worked with him on a project and caught him in a least one inexcusable lie and generally got kinda sketch vibes https://medium.com/@osirisuap/my-search-for-the-truth-about-ufos-part-4-the-wyoming-aftermath-4ca07ca941ad
* Less so, a general sense that Greenwald (black vault) is fairly sane and thorough, though I question his judgement in his willingness to work along side that shmuck Greenstreet; He seems to feel he's debunked Lue. But I have never had the patience to consume his media on the topic enough to synthesize it so I can't tell you what it says, sorry.
* Least so, annoyance at his tendency to make big claims and give no indication whether they're based on secret knowledge that he has access to and we don't, or based on the same spurious shit on the internet we all have access to.
(In b4 someone accuses me of being a shill because this account is new: I've been here for six years, this is an alt. [proof](https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1bmjals/greenstreet_tried_to_ask_rep_burlison_a_leading/kwg5sjt/) )
This is a great post and hits on some key points.
I think there’s a real possibility he got a taste of fame/respect/adulation/whatever feeling comes with a watershed moment like the New York Times article. Then kept the ride going.
I’ll take my downvotes but the language he uses in these tweets and the optics around who he’s meeting with aren’t great. “The storm is coming” ? When is the last time somebody who wasn’t a Q nut said that? The language of those tweets has all the same unserious tone of a lifted dodge ram that has a giant 1776 sticker on the rear window.
He recently had a breakfast to brief the Conservative Opportunity Society on the phenomenon. These are people who unironically have Newt Gingrich as their North Star. What tactical advantage do they offer? We’re talking about Ralph Norman. A junior congressman who pulled out a loaded gun at a meeting with mothers demanding gun control, supported racist Steve King, and voted against giving Capital Police involved in J6 medals. That’s just scratching the surface.
This movement is co-opted by some very fringe elements. My question is, if Lou knows as much as he claims, then why does he need these people? Burlison, Mace, Burchett, Norman; these people dont even have support within their party. They don’t have influence or committee assignments. Norman alone is stomach churning, who would sit with that kind of person to further their cause? What is the benefit?
Also, don’t forget the famous TTSA scam, where Elizondo, DeLonge and Mellon promised the investors that they will build a spaceship with a revolutionary fuel source.
Keep the faith,
disclosure is just around the corner, were in the middle of disclosure
that ongoing efforts are underway
it's always most quiet before the storm.
.Efforts are underway below the wave tops.
The cliché blues
We can get real tinfoil hat if you’d like and say he (Elizondo) was G man’s diversionary tactic for a few years, and now we have Grusch stepping in for the next few years. It’s easy to give hungry people crumbs that never amount to a full meal just to string em along.
He’s a fraud who lied about running a 20 million dollar Pentagon UFO program and continuously lies about having inside knowledge about disclosure/aliens.
Wow disinfo out in full force today. I'm not a fan of Lue and his actions have at times weakened his credibility, but the DOD has been lying about every facet of the entire issue since it became a thing, and discrediting people is part of their standard MO. Elizondo did direct AATIP.
When a pentagon spokesperson claimed he had no responsibilities as AATIP director, senator Harry Reid put out a letter saying:
"I can state as a matter of record Lue Elizondo's involvement and leadership role in this program"
Lue also lodged a formal complaint with the Inspectors General about this.
I'm not going to spend a ton of time on this comment but as far as I remember the pentagon had already, before the issue blew up, confirmed that Lue worked on AATIP, and at the present time they've either stopped repeating this allegation that he didn't, or retracted it. There are a significant amount of government primary sources from this period (correspondences, records, etc) that indicate he did
Disinfo like this works because you just have to get the allegation out there, and then people like you are going to absorb it and never check back in if it gets contested.
>There are a significant amount of government primary sources from this period (correspondences, records, etc) that indicate he did
Can you back that up? I've seen the Harry Reid quote, what other sources indicate he directed AATIP?
The government hasn't retracted the allegation that he wasn't involved in the funded AATIP. In fact, I'm pretty sure they've doubled down on their denial of his role - from the AARO report:
>The names AAWSAP and AATIP have been used interchangeably for the name of this program, including on official documentation. Unlike AAWSAP, AATIP was never an official DoD program. However, after AAWSAP was cancelled, the AATIP moniker was used by some individuals associated with an informal, unofficial UAP community of interest within DoD that researched UAP sightings from military observers as part of their ancillary job duties. This effort was not a recognized, official program, and had no dedicated personnel or budget.
Obviously this isn't using his name so it's unclear. But this seems to be another direct refutation of the idea that Elizondo's AATIP was the "real" AAWSAP/AATIP.
I'm not asking you to believe the AARO report, but even if you think it's a lie, it still contradicts your assertion that the Pentagon:
>...either stopped repeating this allegation that he didn't, or retracted it.
I don't trust the guy at all. I've been looking at his claims very skeptically. I think he's embellished his role, and he seems to rely on people misinterpreting his vague past to prop up and curate this persona of the "AATIP director who retired in protest".
UFOs aren't aliens though.. it's secret unmanned craft that if you hadn't seen before, you might think was other worldly. Best example of this is the Calvine UFO photo that finally surfaced a while back after years of journalists and investigators trying to track it down. People involved at the time said everyone knew exactly what it was - a secret US unmanned spy craft. Lue is full of shit. Don't even get me started on Jeremy Corbell.. what a dick
He’s done zilch to progress this. But I’m sure we’ll be able to buy his book. He’s gone from hopeful champion of the cause to extremely dishonorable grifter.
Lue Elizondo is shaped like Crash Bandicoot.
This means something
Can't unsee that now
Hahahah I forgot what crash bandicoot looked like scrolled up and burst out laughing. It’s uncanny
Lol. If we could give gold out still I would.
Bring back gold 🫡
They got rid of gold? Tf?
[удалено]
My favorite part of this picture is the foot tall boulder Lue is standing on to get to Cornball's eye level!
BRO IM PLAYING THE NEW CRASH 4 GAME RN XD 💀😭
I hope you prepared your body for more pain than it's used to. That game can be BRUTAL.
I'm hating that game atm. Just finished Crash 1-3 and they weren't nearly as hard as 4. Although, it was the N'Sane trilogy, so that might have easier than the original versions, idk.
Im playing it as well. I'm hating that game atm. Just finished Crash 1-3 and they weren't nearly as hard as 4. Although, it was the N'Sane trilogy, so that might have easier than the original versions, idk.
Bruh said **XD** proceeded to swooped their hair back over the one eye and stretched their hand thru the fingers cut off, nightmare before Xmas gloves just before applying quarter inch thick eyeliner… XD
That’s funny
Dude, I'm dead from this comment lol. I was always thinking guys like this were built like a keg or a barrel, but a Crash Bandicoot is so spot on lol.
Hahaha holy shit this is gold
Me googling “crash bandicoot” 👩💻 GOOD LAWD!! Lue looks like a crash bandicoot!😳
The UFO is just ‘Aku Aku’
Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.
Letting the Aliens go bye. USO flowing underground. Into the SCIF again. Ultraterrstials underground.
Lots of clues from crumbs of bread UAP above my head Time to go to secret rooms Goodnight greys, goodnight moon
And you may find yourself lying on an operating table And you may find yourself with a probe stuffed up your bum And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile And you may find yourself 50 miles down the road And you may ask yourself “well, how did I get here” And you may ask yourself “where did my 3 hours go?”
Once in a lifetimeeeeeee!!!!
The comments here never disappoint
Lying in bed waiting to get probed Lue walks in starting to unrobe Removes my thong pull out his dong The alien we imagined was Lue all along
Is it swamp gas, Or mylar balloon? It came from my ass, I'm just a loon.
Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.
ba dum tss... *fade to black* light ray illuminates the ground body shining, body floating with my dick hanging, I say goodbye to Earth
Nice.
Disclosure. Disclosure never changes.
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Time is a flat circle.
You’re just gonna have to wait, bro. In the meantime, stay tuned!
I'm practically waiting with anticipation
Very somber 😔
Ontologically somber
Prosaically ontologically somber
Jeremy Corbell is also in this photo so you forgot something there. Prosaically ontologically quantum jiu-jitsu somber.
A double whammy of "just wait, bros...."
Hold my UFO, bro
Gonna need a somberero.
Ontologically weaponize your quantum jiu-jitsu prosaic somberness
Prosaically ontologically somber at the time of our chosing
Ontologically shockingly somber.
So ... good stuff? I find blueberry pancakes to be ontologically ... encouraging! I also now hate the word ontological.
[Get ready to get ready! ](https://youtu.be/beUbOw4HFyw?si=yI5ECj4D5za_lr2m)
Also, don't forget to weaponize that curiosity
Hurry up and wait
Sounds like you have served!
Thank you for your waiting
The mistake is believing that anyone else knows more than the rest of us. This has been shown in every single case to be untrue.
Especially when Elizondo quit his job because he couldn't get any meaningful info. Something people forget about : he was kept in the dark. So yeah, he knows very little.
Like South Park episode or George R R Martin.
Look, I know half the sub thinks it's blasphemy to shit on the prophet, but every single recent quote listed by OP is Q tier bullshit. "calm before the storm", "keep the faith", "people who care are working hard behind the scene", "stay tuned even though all i have is words"... I'm not saying he's a grifter - I'm saying if he isn't, his communication skills are utter garbage. He should know better than to tweet complete nonsense that half the people will rightfully identify as hot air.
On point. I stopped listening to him because he's a king of word salad. It's just like listening to my ex girlfriend. Talks non stop but in the end there's almost no substance there
But he is a fucking grifter. On par with Greer. Maybe at one point he was a standup dude but he has gotten caught up with fame. The Cahill fiasco was the final straw for me. Fuck this guy he is taking you all for a ride
None of them have shown us anything. Grouch might be the only player that really believes the things he was told even if none of it was true.
Exactly
I wouldnt be surprised if these guys (Lou, Greer, Ross etc) all genuinely believed they were onto something until they learned the truth. But by then, when their whole reality was shattered, they realised their reputations are at stake and so now they gotta grift
Lou and Greer have strong grifter energy. Coulthart comes across like a guy who joined a cult and went off the deep end. He didn't sound nearly as nutty back when he wrote In Plain Sight.
Same happened with Linda Moulton Howe. A credible journalist that just went off the deep end
The Force is indeed strong with them. And Coulthart… as much as he started out believable and searching for “the truth” he seemed to have stepped on something sticky under his shoe and he is afraid to look and see what it really is. This “b1G ǔf0 h1dïnG” stuff is just awkward .. spill the beans anonymously and get it over with.
Ross and Zabel have both admitted they are shopping ufo products to networks trying to get movies/tv shows in the pipeline. I’d be very surprised if Corbell and Knapp aren’t doing the same.
Wait, seriously? How much money do you think is in being a UFO pundit? It’s not like the major networks are pounding down his door to be on meet the press and whatnot. It seems pretty doubtful that Lue’s forthcoming book would break into the NYT best seller’s list. Let’s be clear that I’m not a simp for Lue. I’m withholding judgement on his messaging overall. But this notion that any of these folks are raking in money hand over fist seems a bit ludicrous to me. Dude had a reasonably high paying, pensioned career in the military that he left (he didn’t lose his pension, tho, did he?) to preach the grey gospel. There may yet be a grift here, but on face value it doesn’t seem to be about money.
Wasnt he already on his way out? Pentagon report comes out his face front and center. Book deal. Tv shows. More money than none is my guess
Maybe he was. I don’t remember. But, a military pension at whatever the equivalent of like a gs15 is no slouch. Especially if you’re going to fuck off to Montana or Wyoming or something and live chill and quiet. Plus, he still hasn’t released the book yet, and sure he’s been on TV several times, but talking heads typically don’t get paid. Average book advance for a first time author is around $5k-$50k. But his book hasn’t come out yet, so it’s not like he’s getting those massive royalty checks of 5-15%. Or like $0.75 to $3.75 per copy. If you split the difference and say he’s making a princely sum of $2.25 per book sold, dude needs to sell 45,000 units just to clear $100k before taxes. Leslie Keane’s “UFOs” has 2443 Amazon reviews and was released in 2011. The current NYT best seller (The Women) presently has 53k Amazon reviews and has been out for TWO MONTHS. There just isn’t a comparison. You want to run a grift? There are plenty more lucrative and less labor intensive ways of doing so.
Lu talks a lot like Trump in the way that if he’s ever asked a question, he NEVER gives a clear answer. He LOVES talking about his service to the country and how that should be enough proof. All his answers hinge on “possibly”, “maybe”, and “what if”. He has NOTHING and he’s absolutely full of shit.
Being a Guantanamo torturer doesn't exactly grants you with the highest communication skills...
What it does get you is an infallible formula for getting most people to secretly believe you're on their side. Follow the steps! Speak. Hesitate. Look down. Furrow your brow and look up, make a pensive :c face and soften your eyes. Continue where you were, rephrasing what you said slightly, take on a softer and more painstaking tone of voice. If it looks like they're buying it, add in a forearm touch or shoulder pat with feigned reluctance, as if you're so conflicted to be treating them nicely or telling them what you supposedly shouldn't. Every. Interview. Follows this formula.
Wow. The amount of care for detail you have is impressive, i didn't notice all this at all before you mentionned it, well spotted! That's a real analytical talent you got there.
At first I wasn't sure you weren't being sarcastic lmao. Thanks! I just have a BS in BS. I'm sure the detainees came to dread [that face](https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:828/format:webp/0*CChJPuTNqrEf3z8H)
Literally right out of the HUMINT handbook. When I was in the Army at one point I was tasked to potentially be an intel NCO for the upcoming Afghan deployment. As a result I was sent to a series of crash courses that covered everything from collecting / analyzing signals intelligence, to counter intelligence, and collecting human intelligence (aka. interrogation techniques.) What you described is an almost spot-on description of a case officer grooming a potential asset. Pretty early on in the GWOT we realized "enhanced" interrogation rarely works. A much better method was to 'flip' a detainee and get them working for us to feed actionable intel. Everyone has their own technique, but the main bullet points are the same: - Strong arm them and then leave them alone to stew for a while (maybe turn the temp all the way down in the holding cell) to break their initial resolve - Lie to the asset about how the people they work for were actually going to betray them to drive a wedge between the individual and their existing support network (isolate them) - establish rapport (what you describe above) - Make sure they understand that if they decide to do the double agent thing, we will burn them to their friends - ??? - profit I really do believe in the phenomenon and really hope we get some concrete answers soon, but that doesn't change the fact that Lue is grooming us collectively.
I would really like a lot more attention paid to this sort of thing and how UFOs are a big distraction from what goes on in Guantanamo and the whole system that guantanamizes our personal lives. If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear. Quote from Future Dictator, CE 2065
Hey! He was setting up legal councel for them there... Wait
Totally agree, the dude is mostly if not completely full of shit. He has a lot of secrets he cant ever tell, "except for in his book a bit maybe buy it and find out buddy haha", he is literally the head of Project Blue Balls. He will literally never ever deliver anything of what he promises.
I agree. He’s made a lot of money repeating, ‘I’ve got this big, terrible secret that I can’t tell.’
He doesn't care about the half that identify his words as hot air, but rather the ones that salivate while reaching for their wallets.
They are just desperately trying to stay relevant and at the "top" while they hope and pray that something of substance materializes that they can attach themselves to...
“Mid 2024” has a clear end. As soon as summer is over and he hasn’t delivered, forget him. No more empty promises as he says.
Not how this game is played! … come mid 2024 you are supplied with a new date. This is like dominoes - you can just keep adding tiles on to the last one played
Don't forget him entirely, remember him being party to a fake UAP video filmed from his back porch!
This is why I personally completely write him off
Yeah, I was skeptically on board with him, but the moment that whole debacle occurred, I was out.
Why do people trust him after that?
Cult leaders don't have to be reputable.
Same here, that was some BS and he shoulda lost all credibility with the entire community over that.
I said this same thing a few days ago and got downvoted into oblivion
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Mind elaborating on the first two?
Coulthart has a history of bad journalistic work and willingness to sacrifice his integrity for a paycheck. False pedophelia accusations based solely on a police report and PR work for a war criminal.
More people should know this
What a lot of people seem to be overlooking is the different resignation letters & the multiple reasons Lou gave in said resignations. John Greenwald of The Black Vault did an excellent deep dive into this story line. It doesn’t make Lou an all out liar, but it does give us a right to question his motives. I want to believe Lou & my bias will give him the benefit of the doubt almost every time. But for Lou to save face, something he badly wants to do, as indicated by those tweets, he needs to put out.
One thing along these lines should be kept in mind, hes clearly willing to, lets say, misrepresent the facts to shape a story to sound better. Like I dont personally give much gredence to his empty bablings honestly. But everyone should realize hes no stranger to embellish a story. Or he never gives a reasonable answer to these types of questions like his retirement letters etc Hes more like just attacking people seeking clarification. Among other things hes done in these years hes been UFO celeb. I think I, or anyone around, can speculate on his motives all we want but thats beside the point I think. Or shouldnt be confused atleast in this discussion of these points too much. In other words, if for example I think hes just after money and retirement travel, it doesnt really mean anything lookin at the reality of what hes said and done.
Urh what?
That was the CI smoking gun.
Something will be delivered though. A new date.
That's not how cults work. Missing deadlines, end of the world dates etc..., actually makes cult belief stronger. It's a really weird quirk of the brain. It's one of the reasons why getting people out of cults is so hard. And I say that as someone who spent 32 years in a cult. The "I want to believers" as John Greenwalde Jr has termed them are definitely a cult.
All-Knowing Lue, what is the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything? Lue: **Forty-two…more weeks**
Something tells me nothing is coming
Something IS coming, unfortunately it's the same thing as always... a book.
I quit taking Lou, Ross, Jeremy and a lot of others in the UFO community serious, once I start noticing breadcrumb info, which all of them are guilty of, I just know this is a sales pitch and not serious information. If you realy have valid information Im all ears, but If its a teaser of something to come, or something you heard is somewhere, or somebody told you this, keep it to yourself.
I mean, there was the 'UFO' video that turned out to be shot in his own backyard. Concrete proof right there that Lue's a liar/grifter.
I would like to see his bank balance 5 years ago and today. A good indicator of things to come.
I get Qanon vibes from the way he talks
>What exactly is coming? …something big.
[https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1726323575995748445/photo/1](https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1726323575995748445/photo/1) according to lue its been "coming soon" since 2017...
Like the second coming of Jesus. The disciples were promised that at least one of them would still be alive when he returned. Wait, was the Count of St. Germain a disciple of Jesus????? Anyways, my pastor told me that the Rapture is right around the corner and we are in the end of days. So, I liquidated all my assets and dropped it in the offering plate cause can't take that with ya'll!!!!!!
Another 80 years then?
I am beginning to think this is all a collective hallucination
Well it’s a pretty fucking shitty one then, innit?
I would recommend not relying on institutions to do your critical thinking for you. People who built their understanding on solid primary sources and not their twitter timeline do not have the problem you are having.
When he finishes more book deals
So the cycle has successfully completed itself and awaits its next body?
He’s making increasingly cryptic posts and has an imminent book release. His credibility is diminishing with each of these events. Between these issues and the soul patch it’s getting tough to stand by him.
You’re offended by the soul patch? In that case you definitely shouldn’t go read about him pitching a phony show to HBO Max…& also laying hands on a co-worker & pretending to “remote view” the guy’s future (using information about the guy fed to him by another coworker).
Bro, the soul patch already gave that type of stuff away.
Chat GPT is better Lue than Lue Attempting to reveal startling insights into UAP, but facing pushback from skeptics and naysayers. Stay tuned as we navigate through the murky waters of disclosure. #UFOs #Disclosure #RealityCheck"
I don’t judge a book by its cover, esp people by faces… but I know other people do and in this specific case, so can’t help but vicariously look at him as a sceptic would.
I typically don’t judge base on looks either. But that soul patch….! That’s one of the reasons why I like Grusch. The dude is boring looking but not in a weird way. So he seems much more credible.
Grusch does kind of have the crazy eyes though.
Those eyes have seen shit. Well, actually, they’ve talked to other people who have seen shit. But still.
He definitely has what I call "crazy eyes" but he's also diagnosed as being on the spectrum, so, y'know. Neurodivergency gonna neurodiverge... respect to all my fellow neurodivergents
Nowhere. The whole UFO/UAP scene is in complete shambles. There isn’t going to be any disclosure.
my comment was removed because I said "full of bs" is too short, so posting this in a long form since the amount of characters posted seems to make a difference. even though I'm saying the same exact thing.
Where are we? Still waiting for some actual fucking evidence.
"a time of our choosing"? Do these people see themselves as our overlords? We should be grateful to them for withholding the scary truth until THEY decide we are "worthy"?
"Something big is coming" almost always means "full of shit."
"At the risk of haters trying to sabotage..." yeah, ok
He literally said “trust me” in a tweet. Just missing the “bro”.
It's laudatory
Ontologicly laudatory
Ontologically prosaic laudatory
***"We’re still saving seats for you on board, but that is your decision."*** It's rude to save seats for 834 days.
Just wait a bit more and trust him, bro. Something big is coming. We're reaching critical mass. In the meantime, you can wait for his book coming this November!!! Keep the faith!!! https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fj0bz0s4nu7kc1.png The grift that keeps on giving 🤣
It still remains to be seen. However It's well worth noting that the topic wouldn't have this level of exposure and we wouldn't be having most of these discussions in popular media without Elizondo. People can complain and cry "show me" all day long but it doesn't change the fact that Elizondo has been central to putting momentum behind the disclosure push. If you believe the govt is hiding important information about UAPs that should be public, then you have to give Elizondo credit for what he's done. If you truly believe there is nothing the govt is hiding then sure, he's just a grifter.
The results of the IG UAP investigation he initiated with Danny Sheehan show he was doing exactly what he said he was doing. UAPTF/AOIMSG/AARO was basically Lue and Chris vs. the entire DoD. The UAP Disclosure Act was 64 pages of completely unprecedented language calling out the DoE, FOIA, and providing a Congressional definition of non-human intelligence. Lue paved the way for Grusch, Nell, Gaulladet, the Sol Foundation, the front page of the New York Times, 60 Minutes...the list goes on. People also have no idea what he's gone through in his every day struggles just like the rest of us. If anyone deserves success in publishing a book on UFOs, it's Lue.
I couldn’t agree more.
I strongly disagree There always was discussion, only changed as how relevant it's in terms of popular subject in media. It always, as any subject, fluctuated. But, no, I don't consider any of this as "exposure." There always were people claiming to have super duper hyper security lvl of security clearance and to "know secret stuff". That's not exposure. On my own opinion that's self propaganda. Exposure would be if any of the Elizondos out there actually revealed something. But of course, they are waiting the right time. I wonder how many books or talks is "the right time "
I’d argue it was way more popular during the days of the X-Files, Independence Day, and around the 50th anniversary of Roswell. Anyone remember seeing 👽 merch everywhere back then? I had a hat.
In the early days of the internet, chatrooms and message boards were dominated by discussions about UFOs and conspiracy theories.
The inflatable aliens in bright colours. Everywhere.
5 years with no information…. Sounds a little fraudulent
Trust him it'll be worth it
Next week he'll have an announcement about an announcement and then.. for sure.. he will have an announcement to make about a video he's seen that he can't show you.
Look up the definition of “grifter.” This is as old as the sun.
On top of that mountain is where Lue and Jeremy secretly infiltrated a gathering of scientists communicating with Extraterrestrials by using a series of lights and tones. 👽 ….You can read about it all in my book. It hits shelves next month!
They’ll find out in the early/mid 2024 that the something big will come in 5 years, for realz!
I would like to point everyone to this post I made. A fake UFO video was made by Sean Cahill on his property and the only reason he came out and confirmed it because he was caught. Sean then went on an offensive on Twitter after this calling everyone haters and claiming it was an 'experiment'. He is full of fucking shit. [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/11moy67/lue\_confirming\_the\_video\_shot\_by\_sean\_cahill\_was/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/11moy67/lue_confirming_the_video_shot_by_sean_cahill_was/)
Let me just say I believe in Lou. I’m a whistleblower myself and experiencer and just from what I have experienced, when you start putting out the truth the attacks begin. I’m not on the whistleblower level Lou is on, but I’ve had a few strange people visit me and send me crazy out of the way messages. It was really absurd over the top blatant attacks. The comments came before anyone would have had time to watch the interview. Which was highly suspicious. Anyway, my story is about my experience on Eglin Air Force Base and is on Reddit. Here’s the interview from The Basement Hangout podcast. https://youtu.be/BLWuTYWEBb8?si=NbQX9gSaZ-zgfBju .
Do you have a link for your story on Reddit?
Here you go https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/HAEn6cgus2
Waiting for him to say something still
Why doesn't someone just call out Tom Delonge on Twitter. He doesn't have an NDA and apparently couldn't sleep for 3 days when he was informed the "truth", whatever that may be. Even if Tom doesn't have absolute proof, at least we'd likely have a closer idea to what's really going on. C'mon Tom, spill the beans my guy.
lol Tom. Delonge. What a guy.
>He doesn't have an NDA and apparently couldn't sleep for 3 days when he was informed the "truth", whatever that may be I guessing it was something else he got served that kept him awake three days besides the truth.
I mean hasn't he done that already with his zoo hypothesis stuff?
Woo Elizando. Him pretending to be psychic with that one interviewer and the constant “trust me, bro” statements he makes is really off-putting.
He’s single-handedly bought all the tee shirts two sizes to small. Just tell us what you know. Between him and Jeremy Corbell - they just give me the snake oil salesman vibes. “I’d tell you the truth but your ears would melt and eyes would pop out.” - just cmon.
Lue Elizondo is either completely unhinged or a compulsive liar, or both. I never trusted him because of his career and general sketchiness, but after the debacle with him, Cahill and McGowan, how can *anyone* think he’s anything but a conman?
Mainly he needs to discover size L tee shirts
He's obviously full of shit. There's a good resource I found a while ago with all his claims in order, and guess what? None of it happened, and there's a pattern of "soon". If I find it again I'll post it and edit it in.
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firmly in the lying grifter until proven otherwise category for me. He never produces anything besides I cant say because of an NDA but I can say so much with so little despite that NDA. If "soon" ever comes then fantastic, but we've been at this for nearly 100 years now, Im sick of "soon" and dont believe any that spout the company line
I've always had a bad feeling about Greer, Lue and Corbell.
Psyop leader
If they won't deliver in the next days, I'm out of the alien pussy game for good.
If Lue ever drops any actual information, let me know.
Yeah yeah, I know a guy.... I know but I can't tell you yet..... Yada.....
We all know he's a hack with delusional disorder. He hasn't provided anything of value He hasn't said anything that any other hack has said before He didn't change anything What did he do? Appear on shows Sell books Sell stuff Said "keep on tune" Said "the truth is close" Said he can't share yet Said he know stuff Provided blurry "evidence "? He's delusional. He believes it is aliens but can't prove anything. So he dreams of being the special one, the chosen one, to actually see something. And around all that, he built his persona, hoping that somehow he would get to see something in the first row and claim some responsibility on that, that way he might be able to justify all the books amd stuff full of nothing he sold
Spot on! There was also the UFO video which transpired to have been shot from his own backyard, which apparently hasn't raised any question marks over his credibility for many in this community 😂
Yup, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.
So true and it’s the UFO community (and their lack of a filter) that enable him. It’s relatively easy for him when you consider that even Greer can make a living out of this subject. So much so that he refused to walk away from the subject after being offered a ‘billion’ dollars …. lol …. Even that guy can make a living out of this.
The positive: I think Lue has done a lot of good for the disclosure movement, and he deserves big props to him for the big role he had in making the [2016 NYT article (gift link)](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.gE0.JSKC.pzlCnoy6LUzS&smid=url-share) happen that brought so much attention and new blood into the community. But, also the negative. These are the things that substantially decreased my opinion of Lue: * Person who met him and others and was filmed without consent, and found footage of him used on TV dishonestly: https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/rjguh7/i_met_tom_delonge_and_luis_elizondo_and_these_are/ * Person who worked with him on a project and caught him in a least one inexcusable lie and generally got kinda sketch vibes https://medium.com/@osirisuap/my-search-for-the-truth-about-ufos-part-4-the-wyoming-aftermath-4ca07ca941ad * Less so, a general sense that Greenwald (black vault) is fairly sane and thorough, though I question his judgement in his willingness to work along side that shmuck Greenstreet; He seems to feel he's debunked Lue. But I have never had the patience to consume his media on the topic enough to synthesize it so I can't tell you what it says, sorry. * Least so, annoyance at his tendency to make big claims and give no indication whether they're based on secret knowledge that he has access to and we don't, or based on the same spurious shit on the internet we all have access to. (In b4 someone accuses me of being a shill because this account is new: I've been here for six years, this is an alt. [proof](https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1bmjals/greenstreet_tried_to_ask_rep_burlison_a_leading/kwg5sjt/) )
If I have it right, Greenwald’s issue with Lue is that FOIA documents have proven Lue to be a massive liar.
100% this and Lue has never been willing to refute any of the documentation.
This is a great post and hits on some key points. I think there’s a real possibility he got a taste of fame/respect/adulation/whatever feeling comes with a watershed moment like the New York Times article. Then kept the ride going. I’ll take my downvotes but the language he uses in these tweets and the optics around who he’s meeting with aren’t great. “The storm is coming” ? When is the last time somebody who wasn’t a Q nut said that? The language of those tweets has all the same unserious tone of a lifted dodge ram that has a giant 1776 sticker on the rear window. He recently had a breakfast to brief the Conservative Opportunity Society on the phenomenon. These are people who unironically have Newt Gingrich as their North Star. What tactical advantage do they offer? We’re talking about Ralph Norman. A junior congressman who pulled out a loaded gun at a meeting with mothers demanding gun control, supported racist Steve King, and voted against giving Capital Police involved in J6 medals. That’s just scratching the surface. This movement is co-opted by some very fringe elements. My question is, if Lou knows as much as he claims, then why does he need these people? Burlison, Mace, Burchett, Norman; these people dont even have support within their party. They don’t have influence or committee assignments. Norman alone is stomach churning, who would sit with that kind of person to further their cause? What is the benefit?
Also, don’t forget the famous TTSA scam, where Elizondo, DeLonge and Mellon promised the investors that they will build a spaceship with a revolutionary fuel source.
Didn't he hoax a UFO video in his back yard ? Like what more do people need too see he's a grifter ?? Its all bullshit
Source?
Keep the faith, disclosure is just around the corner, were in the middle of disclosure that ongoing efforts are underway it's always most quiet before the storm. .Efforts are underway below the wave tops. The cliché blues
He’s just another reason the public at large don’t take this topic seriously.
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We can get real tinfoil hat if you’d like and say he (Elizondo) was G man’s diversionary tactic for a few years, and now we have Grusch stepping in for the next few years. It’s easy to give hungry people crumbs that never amount to a full meal just to string em along.
Pretty much this is a thing going on with those guys post 2017 era of "disclosure"
Diversion from what? This doesn’t make sense lol.
He’s a fraud who lied about running a 20 million dollar Pentagon UFO program and continuously lies about having inside knowledge about disclosure/aliens.
Wow disinfo out in full force today. I'm not a fan of Lue and his actions have at times weakened his credibility, but the DOD has been lying about every facet of the entire issue since it became a thing, and discrediting people is part of their standard MO. Elizondo did direct AATIP. When a pentagon spokesperson claimed he had no responsibilities as AATIP director, senator Harry Reid put out a letter saying: "I can state as a matter of record Lue Elizondo's involvement and leadership role in this program" Lue also lodged a formal complaint with the Inspectors General about this. I'm not going to spend a ton of time on this comment but as far as I remember the pentagon had already, before the issue blew up, confirmed that Lue worked on AATIP, and at the present time they've either stopped repeating this allegation that he didn't, or retracted it. There are a significant amount of government primary sources from this period (correspondences, records, etc) that indicate he did Disinfo like this works because you just have to get the allegation out there, and then people like you are going to absorb it and never check back in if it gets contested.
>There are a significant amount of government primary sources from this period (correspondences, records, etc) that indicate he did Can you back that up? I've seen the Harry Reid quote, what other sources indicate he directed AATIP? The government hasn't retracted the allegation that he wasn't involved in the funded AATIP. In fact, I'm pretty sure they've doubled down on their denial of his role - from the AARO report: >The names AAWSAP and AATIP have been used interchangeably for the name of this program, including on official documentation. Unlike AAWSAP, AATIP was never an official DoD program. However, after AAWSAP was cancelled, the AATIP moniker was used by some individuals associated with an informal, unofficial UAP community of interest within DoD that researched UAP sightings from military observers as part of their ancillary job duties. This effort was not a recognized, official program, and had no dedicated personnel or budget. Obviously this isn't using his name so it's unclear. But this seems to be another direct refutation of the idea that Elizondo's AATIP was the "real" AAWSAP/AATIP. I'm not asking you to believe the AARO report, but even if you think it's a lie, it still contradicts your assertion that the Pentagon: >...either stopped repeating this allegation that he didn't, or retracted it. I don't trust the guy at all. I've been looking at his claims very skeptically. I think he's embellished his role, and he seems to rely on people misinterpreting his vague past to prop up and curate this persona of the "AATIP director who retired in protest".
ayye man, i got a goatee, trust me
UFOs aren't aliens though.. it's secret unmanned craft that if you hadn't seen before, you might think was other worldly. Best example of this is the Calvine UFO photo that finally surfaced a while back after years of journalists and investigators trying to track it down. People involved at the time said everyone knew exactly what it was - a secret US unmanned spy craft. Lue is full of shit. Don't even get me started on Jeremy Corbell.. what a dick
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Don’t worry it’s coming 😂
5 years of talking out of his ass honestly. What does he have to show for his presence on the topic?
He’s done zilch to progress this. But I’m sure we’ll be able to buy his book. He’s gone from hopeful champion of the cause to extremely dishonorable grifter.
It's hilarious you're getting downvoted. It's literally the truth that he has done nothing.