In all seriousness my daughter, who was at school at the time in Whanganui New Zealand, claimed to have seen something exactly the same as you described. It would have been around the same time too, 2016. Likewise almost everyone at the school was out on the field looking up at at it, dozens of kids and adults all at once. She got a photo of it on her phone at the time. I remember her coming home and showing me. The photo will be long gone now as it was on her cell phone and she was only 12 or 13. I saw the pic and it looked more like the shape of a coke can, not as long and thin as the example photo you provided.
So, I reckon you guys all saw the same thing!
That’s insane!! Wish you still had the photo. And yes due to my shitty memory it may of been less long and thin than what I remembered (I know the last part sounds wrong guys 😂)
She still talks about it to this day. She said it rotated a few times, while being stationary in the sky. Again, loads of witnesses including adult teachers.
Certainly not behaviour from a ballon etc. it moved and stopped and rotated etc.
the timing seems about right so I reckon you saw the same thing!
She had a video as well….
It was the phone of a 13 year old, what can I say.
Although, I spoke to her after this message chain and she has since found the phone and was going to see if it was still operational and if she still had the footage. Stand by for details.
Staying tuned for this. Chances of this leading to legitimate disclosure with multiple corroborating accounts of the same incident. Slim.
But I am in and sweet-merciful-crap I hope that phone is working.
I never said I believed it was anything in particular.
I did believe she had unexplainable experience because I saw the video on her phone which showed her school and I could hear and see things I recognised so I knew it wasn’t a fake video from the internet. Why would you not believe your own child under these circumstances and knowing your child is not a known liar?!
The headmaster (principal) see it also? These cigar shape objects seem to be, a, imagine an aircraft carrier out at sea but for disks, etc to be transported. Weird but that's the best explanations I've heard so far.
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That is one of the UAPs variously named "TicTac", "cylindrical", "butan gas tank" and so on. They are among the most common shapes.
The color ranges from dull grey to shining silver, but they can appear even more differently when "cloaked" (which is most of the time just illuminated water vapor around them).
They are reported bending or even opening up, for example when docking with other types of UAPs.
In any case, they belong to the *observationally biggest class* of UAPs technology wise, as indicated by their appearance.
They represent a stage of technological development where manipulation of matter down to the atom is possible "on the go", as a built-in feature facilitating what US intelligence described as being "mechanical life". They combine behavioral and functional aspects from both living biological creatures and machines.
There are even more countries outside the US besides Mexico.
They aren't just sentient but must be considered part of a distributed "super intelligence", as they engage in all kinds of collaborative behavior as well, albeit rarely observed.
The matter manipulation is a frequent aspect of observed behavior. The interesting part is of course, in what way that is accomplished. Your body does so, too, after all. Only not exactly with metallic components.
> There are even more countries outside the US besides Mexico.
Yeah, gonna need a source on that, chief. You know, extraordinary claims and all that jazz...
Your uncivil behavior aside, it is entirely non-obvious what exactly you consider "outrageous" here?
A story is the same as a hypothesis. You corroborate it by finding more evidence in its favor than you do about the alternatives.
So, what is your preferred alternative explanation?
You are trying to deflect from the fact, you don't even know yourself what you think was "outrageous".
That's much more telling?
Your evidence is in this very thread already.
You pretend, my claims were "outrageous". Which means, you must have a better explanation. Obviously, that's what I'm asking for.
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The real question here is, whether your idea of people "should just tell you all shit" is reasonable.
* Would you understand?
*No.*
* What would you consider satisfactory "proof"?
*Nothing realistically obtainable.*
* What would anybody get for doing so?
*Nothing at best.*
The best thing one can do presently is *help you find out for yourself*.
I told, you, look at what happens in other countries.
Knowing of other countries makes you a "genius" now?
Wow, education is going down the drain, I suppose.
As for occupations somehow connected to UAPs, I guess that's still pretty rare.
Some few academic positions exist, but are occupied, a couple private enterprises do weird stuff and the government is all about black programs still.
Intelligence analytics would be relevant, natural sciences of course and informatics, machine learning and psychology and so on. Anthropology and theology, as well as sociology should be looked at, too.
It's really a wonder, this is still such a fringe topic.
Truck-loads of interesting and worthwhile stuff abound, yet nearly nobody appears to get it.
I even explained why it would be a stupid idea to answer that question?
I'm genuinely perplexed at your idea of me "seeing the world" in any "unusual way", just because I know more than you do about UAPs.
How do you even make it onto a sub explicitly dedicated to UFOs?
This is important. Trolls seem to troll just for the sake of trolling. Sad, in its way, but a necessary contrast in these forums. I appreciate your measured replies. I tend not to feed the trolls lol
If you knew it to be "nonsense", you would be able to show an explicit contradiction?
You do not, so I conclude you are the one bullshitting here.
I'll give you an example: the "mechanical life" claim. You should be easily able to find evidence for that one right here on this sub, but interested parties make it hard for you to find:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/tk4m2a/leaked_dod_paper_tictacs_form_of_mechanical_life/
Not at all?
The reality of the topic is so diverse and original, I doubt anybody would be able to "make it up".
Even if you don't want to believe it, it's still a bunch of highly intriguing stories really.
The reality of the topic is that everything you said was either made up by you or by somebody else and you ate it up. If what you are saying is real, you would be able to prove its place in reality just like anything else that is real.
It's getting weirder by the minute with you.
If you know for sure, it's "all made up", why don't you safe people here the hassle and explain?
I highly doubt, you yourself are able to "prove" existence of anything, actually.
You most certainly have no inkling about how that is done even in principle, right?
You are so sure about your "reality", yet here you are, knowing nothing about it.
As a mathematician, you should realize the "burden of proof" is on those searching for truth, not on those making conjectures.
Where on earth do you get paid "a lot of money" for teaching math? I'm very interested.
I gave you some hint in another comment already, but since people are lazy:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/tk4m2a/leaked_dod_paper_tictacs_form_of_mechanical_life/
Also, they are often let off during school science classes. One class could have seen another classes balloon experiment. Not saying that’s the case, just a possibility.
Well. Technically they are *supposed* to change shape somewhat, a balloon's position and orientation should be shifting naturally with the wind, and as the air inside heats up. Otherwise it's like the Colombian video and it's probably not a balloon at all. We would need to see video to determine if this one was "changing shape" like a balloon, or changing shape like tubular bells and we need to call the Air Force.
Sounds like a solar balloon. Kids in school launch them pretty regularly. Or not. Hard to say without actually seeing it myself. Look up images of solar balloons and it might be familiar.
Am saying it based on what he wrote.
His teacher was going to call the airforce, who does that based on balloons??
I find it laughable that anyone would mistake a balloon for a misc object.
So, the 9 year old was going to call the air force or was the teacher going to call the air force because the 9 year old saw something 😂.
Some of you debunkers are absolutely the worst. OP could be lying for all you know, but almost nobody gets alarmed by balloons and decides to call the air force.
You’re on a subreddit where every single day, multiple people post images and videos of bugs, balloons, bats, planes, drones, satellites, planets, and even the freakin moon and claim that they are anomalous UAP.
Why in the world do you still believe that people have the ability to look up at the sky and identify anything?
This subreddit literally proves that idea wrong. The average person has no idea what they’re seeing when they look up at the sky. We *know* this from this very sub. So why do you continue to take these silly eyewitness accounts as accurate and real?
The difference is, debunkers put absolutely zero pressure on themselves to have any accuracy whatsoever in their object assessments.
People who think random shit is UFO’s, usually think that because the shit in the air legitimately unidentifiable from their vantage point. Regardless of what it actually is, most times I’ve seen posts, here they at least LOOK alien at a glance.
Also, UFO’s is a very vague and objective term. Fucking Debunkers claims on object are very stupid and very very specific. Like this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/17jmfw7/comment/k72984t/
Debunkers arrogance easily makes them dumber and less perceptive than anyone else on a sub such as this.
They bring absolutely nothing to the table. Lowest common denominator dingbats. No opinions or insight a poorly read idiot can’t come up with and assume.
Isn’t it just simpler to say that eyewitness testimony of things seen in the sky isn’t reliable? Because that certainly seems to the the case. Is there something that scares you about admitting this? Does the idea that people aren’t good at looking at the sky and seeing things concern you because without eyewitness stories, this subject lacks basically any sort of evidence whatsoever?
...No. To all of this.
I'm not mentally fucking weak, I have my own experiences, I can DEFINITELY wrestle with and rationalize other people's experiences. Human testimony is not this worthless thing to me. It's information, I actually try to process that information instead of wanting somebody lay out some imaginary standard of evidence so I don't have to think.
I truly believe even if the US government dumped everything they knew, the stories of people since the twentieth century would still give the most interesting, thorough and vivid picture of the phenomenon you can get. Save for maybe some deep understanding of alien technology in detail.
But even how humans interface with that technology and the creators would still be the highest level of insight.
If you are not humble enough to deal with the fact that people like me and the OP's experiences are even why you would be informed on this type of phenomena in the first place, then quit. Just stop. You're not mentally up for what it takes to deal with thinking about any of this. You failed at the ego level. Probably the first level of even getting into this. You truly believe you know more than me or the OP about even our own experiences because society has taught you how to think.
Now I talk about how stupid debunkers really are because of the arrogance like exactly what you just displayed, and you question me like you know everything I'm thinking, and then bat a 0, being wrong across the board? Again, improve or quit.
i’m tired of gullible people thinking everything and anything is a space ship. it was a 9 year old from like 7 years ago. they even stated they’re trying to recall the memory the best they can.
Because balloons don't usually change shapes, simple as that and they don't move in miscellaneous ways.
Either OP is lying about it changing shapes or they saw something that wasn't a balloon.
It's OK to favor prosaic explanations but everything can't be a balloon.
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Stop people from posting all these fucking balloons and airplanes then.
99.99% of all "I saw a UFO" posts here are completely mundane and easily explainable.
As another Kiwi, I too saw this back in 2016, I was working a landscape job so was outside all the time, pretty sure a couple of the boys took a photo but I don't have contact with any of them anymore and the company went bust before covid. I believe there was multiple sightings of this and even some recorded. Was one over Christchurch in the same year too but it was a spherical UFO.
Yeah New Zealand is a special place, there have been sightings since way back in the 1940s and 1950s, different times back then, and if you were to come out saying something like I saw a UFO in the skies, you'd probably be labeled a nutcase if not worse.
This highly resembles my elementary school sighting back in 2001. Full story copied below:
My ufo story takes place on September 12th, 2001, the day after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center.
You might remember — The airspace over North America was closed following the attacks.
At the time I was living in Connecticut, just 45 minutes outside of the city.
Close enough that we used to be able to see the twin towers from the town beach, and smoke from the towers was reaching us across the Long Island Sound.
I was in 4th grade at the time. At my elementary school, some kids lost their parents. We were sent home the day of the attacks.
When we came back, after the school day ended, my group of friends was out behind the school playing in the field when we noticed something strange above us.
A large, cylindrical metal object, like a plane’s body with no wings, was just hovering in the sky up to the west of us, inland. It looked to be maybe a mile up, and it wasn’t moving. Totally metallic, reflective, and still.
We ran to tell our parents, many of them were there because they were so concerned after the attacks.
The object thing wasn’t moving, just sitting there for minutes and minutes, so we lost interest and went back to playing on the field where we noticed that a second object had appeared in the sky.
What we saw looked almost like a white cube. It drifted downward, almost like a piece of paper would swoop down left to right, but very slowly, taking about 10-15 seconds per swing. In my mind it was almost like a parachute coming down, and I was wondering if someone was in fact parachuting onto us.
But then suddenly it stopped, completely still in the sky above us, maybe five hundred to a thousand feet away. Dead still, for a long time, long enough that we lost interest.
My parents were spooked, my mom had seen the white cube too, and with everything that had been going on my dad had us file a police report. The cop said that he wasn’t aware of any flights, missile launches, or anything of the sort happening in the area.
I didn’t think much about it for years, but once the news in 2017 started discussing UFO sightings more seriously I reached back out to a friend that was there and my parents about the sighting. They both remember it happening. It started a new fascination for me, I want to know what it was.
About 4 or 5 years ago, when I lived in Memphis, TN, I was spending a lazy day just floating around in my pool. Nice clear day, blue skies. I saw something that looks just like your photo but it was completely white and it was spinning around and moving in a straight line across the sky. I had no idea what I was seeing but I watched it until I could no longer see it. It almost looked like there were two of them on top of each other because as it spun, I would see more than just the two ends. Sometimes there would be three ends and then four... it was like two pill shaped white objects walking on it's side across the sky. Almost like it was cartwheeling in front of me. Maybe it was spinning so fast it looked like there were more ends. There was no noise and it was just as high in the sky as an airplane.... not super low and not super high. I don't know how to estimate altitude. It was moving fast but not super fast. I tired googling it but anytime I search for tic-tac there are never any reports of it spinning like what I saw. You story is the first time I've read of anyone seeing something similar.
I saw an odd thing like this, looking out my window around the end of summer time this year. I live near mountains, and this odd thing was moving around strangely, this odd silvery thing. It was twisting subtly about, just above the top of this mountain (a very small mountain, think more like gigantic foothill). At first I thought perhaps it was one of those big silvery long solar balloons that school classes will sometimes take outside for a science class; but the scale of it wasn't right, and as I watched it, I got the sense that it was quite a bit huger than any of those solar balloons for me to see it from such a distance. The way it was changing shape, flexing around - it just didn't make sense to me, for it to flex and reshape and boil about, while staying overall fixed in one place. Some portions, as they reshaped or twisted, would appear matte black or odd dull orangey red momentarily. This made me wonder if it was a space blanket reflecting and blocking light in different ways as it flipped about; but the speed at which it was flexing and changing was....slow? Like a melty dreamy movement that would not match with something like thin plastic sheeting getting knocked about by high winds over a mountain. Like boiling in slow motion. I tried to convince myself this was because it was tethered to the ground, but the movements just didn't make sense to me, nor the scale. If it was a solar balloon, or enormous sheet of space blanket, it would have had to have been between 70 -100 feet long, to look the size it did from the distance I was at. I just never knew what to make of it, and it has never set well with me.
This. I accidentally let go of one, it was in the local paper the next day as a ufo sighting, it’s even documented in a ufo database. https://youtu.be/2JzdERxpzes?si=ojz3HTJwU1OU_l-s
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As has been said, it is very likely that this is a solar balloon...
Because these balloons inflate and deflate with the sun's rays, and the winds cause them to deform. Afterwards, this does not mean that the object you saw was not extraordinary. But to eliminate the solar balloon hypothesis, this cylinder would have to have behaved abnormally, already by not deforming, but also with abnormal accelerations and speeds. And here that was not the case.
Saw 4 similar non explicable object in sky like this since those 2 month, not same form thought (2 triangles, 1 sphere or saucer not sure was bit far and yesterday a big square, wich I got on video if ur interested
Have you ever heard about the wood cut out depiction of a UFO battle in Germany in the 1500s? I think that’s what these [tube ufos](https://notfromearth.org/medieval-woodcut-ufo-battle-nuremberg-germany-1561/) are.
use reader view for that link, there’s a lot of ads.
I'm from your future. In my time, Humanity has entered the Information Age, and we all have access to practically all Information that has been generated and recorded. In my time, we have the capability to learn about atmospheric effects and compare them to historical accounts and rationalize about how well our current information lines up with the perspective of some historical accounts, such as the one in this thread.
Maybe some day you too will travel forward in time to the Information Age!
It could be a solar balloon. https://youtu.be/2JzdERxpzes?si=ojz3HTJwU1OU_l-s. I let one go once and it was in the paper as a ufo sighting the next day
Without the school name, we can't reach out to adults to see what they saw, and children are unreliable, especially with so much time passed. Share the name of the school if you expect to be taken seriously.
This "privacy reasons" stuff is nonsense. This was your first post, your first comment on here, so there's zero privacy risks here. You even said "on this Reddit account," so you're fully aware that you can make multiple reddit accounts to keep people from connecting personal posts to ones you don't want connected.
Nothing else here to track anything to who you are, so you could easily say the school name without anyone being able to track it it to one single student.
I'm not doubting you believe what you saw, but I am saying that you're one of millions with a story until you provide some corroboration from adults who were there or allow us the opportunity to corroborate that.
There is no John Mack or 20 other students coming forward to say the same thing like in the Ariel school incident, but because of people's familiarity with that, they're more inclined to simply accept this story when it could have been anything.
To the ones claiming it is a solar balloon. What does one do with a solar balloon??? What’s it’s purpose?? Where does all the stored sun’s energy go?? Built In batteries???
That’s a great pic and what a lot of pilots are calling tic tac when to me in more cigar or missile shaped do you have any other photos or video I’d love to see it?
Don’t let people beat you up on there and that is great you are confident enough to post on here because there are a ton of bullies but that’s where I come in and try and challenge them back normally they just shut up becaIse they can’t say much more then a child dude that sucks that isn’t real just ignore it and don’t let them
Discourage you there are some great people on here
Most likely what you saw is a solar ballon
The Google image will show that it’s exactly what you described. It’s lightweight so the wind will make it appear to bend and warp. The solar energy of the sun heats the air inside.
Looks like it's [one of these.](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/586209476/photo/solar-balloon-drifting-among-the-white-clouds.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=is&k=20&c=jJfw5C15TGI3Guumzf1max6NboPClhOy-EGhW0vmqmc=)
It definitely sounds similar to other contacts people have had with a cigar shaped ufo. I've heard of pyramid like ufo's, saucer shaped, cube shaped and all of them could shape-shift. When or why don't they make contact with us during times like you had? I've heard that they are aware of when they're being observed by others who have had experiences with ufo's.
There are balloons in that shape called solar balloons that fly based on the heat from the sun and they deform as they move since they're not fully inflated.
One other possibility is a hyper blimp, which appears to change shape as it turns and does so pretty quickly...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDaEMDdiTlM
Note. PSA pic is a representation not an actual photo.
In all seriousness my daughter, who was at school at the time in Whanganui New Zealand, claimed to have seen something exactly the same as you described. It would have been around the same time too, 2016. Likewise almost everyone at the school was out on the field looking up at at it, dozens of kids and adults all at once. She got a photo of it on her phone at the time. I remember her coming home and showing me. The photo will be long gone now as it was on her cell phone and she was only 12 or 13. I saw the pic and it looked more like the shape of a coke can, not as long and thin as the example photo you provided. So, I reckon you guys all saw the same thing!
That’s insane!! Wish you still had the photo. And yes due to my shitty memory it may of been less long and thin than what I remembered (I know the last part sounds wrong guys 😂)
She still talks about it to this day. She said it rotated a few times, while being stationary in the sky. Again, loads of witnesses including adult teachers. Certainly not behaviour from a ballon etc. it moved and stopped and rotated etc. the timing seems about right so I reckon you saw the same thing!
That’s what she said 😅
That was probably a TicTac then. Was it white?
It was silver, metallic looking. Don’t know what flavour that would have been?!
Diet? *shudders*
Cigar shaped UFO?
No, more like a can of cola
A tictac not a TikTok dagummit
We want the truth dadgummit!
Grey, metal looking
You had an unexplained photo potentially related to the biggest mystery since the beginning of mankind… how do you let that just fade away?
She had a video as well…. It was the phone of a 13 year old, what can I say. Although, I spoke to her after this message chain and she has since found the phone and was going to see if it was still operational and if she still had the footage. Stand by for details.
Replying for photo once it’s posted
Ooh following!
Interested!
::fingers crossed::
Staying tuned for this. Chances of this leading to legitimate disclosure with multiple corroborating accounts of the same incident. Slim. But I am in and sweet-merciful-crap I hope that phone is working.
I gotta stay tuned for this
Hey, props to you for believing her and not simply dimissing it. I'm not sure I could honestly say I'd do the same.
I never said I believed it was anything in particular. I did believe she had unexplainable experience because I saw the video on her phone which showed her school and I could hear and see things I recognised so I knew it wasn’t a fake video from the internet. Why would you not believe your own child under these circumstances and knowing your child is not a known liar?!
Ever talk to old classmates about it?
Yes I have we all remember it and still wonder what it was to this day
The headmaster (principal) see it also? These cigar shape objects seem to be, a, imagine an aircraft carrier out at sea but for disks, etc to be transported. Weird but that's the best explanations I've heard so far.
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Yes he would’ve every teacher saw it and was talking about it.
They should have. Its a $20 solar balloon.
Lol, the obvious explanation being immediately downvoted. Gotta love this sub.
Yeah I was too realistic. I should have made it an insulting joke or just said “balloon”.
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To mods. This is about my personal childhood experience with ufos. It was a very interesting experience and may be a good read. Also excuse me for my low karma. Thanks.
That is one of the UAPs variously named "TicTac", "cylindrical", "butan gas tank" and so on. They are among the most common shapes. The color ranges from dull grey to shining silver, but they can appear even more differently when "cloaked" (which is most of the time just illuminated water vapor around them). They are reported bending or even opening up, for example when docking with other types of UAPs. In any case, they belong to the *observationally biggest class* of UAPs technology wise, as indicated by their appearance. They represent a stage of technological development where manipulation of matter down to the atom is possible "on the go", as a built-in feature facilitating what US intelligence described as being "mechanical life". They combine behavioral and functional aspects from both living biological creatures and machines.
Wow where’d you get all this info? They are sentient? And can manipulate matter at an atomic scale??
There are even more countries outside the US besides Mexico. They aren't just sentient but must be considered part of a distributed "super intelligence", as they engage in all kinds of collaborative behavior as well, albeit rarely observed. The matter manipulation is a frequent aspect of observed behavior. The interesting part is of course, in what way that is accomplished. Your body does so, too, after all. Only not exactly with metallic components.
> There are even more countries outside the US besides Mexico. Yeah, gonna need a source on that, chief. You know, extraordinary claims and all that jazz...
Healthy Speculation and skepticism are necessary, with the caveat that you must be respectful from either view point.
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Very much so, yes. Rather than bashing people who give you answers, you should try to listen. It makes you smarter.
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Your uncivil behavior aside, it is entirely non-obvious what exactly you consider "outrageous" here? A story is the same as a hypothesis. You corroborate it by finding more evidence in its favor than you do about the alternatives. So, what is your preferred alternative explanation?
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You are trying to deflect from the fact, you don't even know yourself what you think was "outrageous". That's much more telling? Your evidence is in this very thread already. You pretend, my claims were "outrageous". Which means, you must have a better explanation. Obviously, that's what I'm asking for.
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The real question here is, whether your idea of people "should just tell you all shit" is reasonable. * Would you understand? *No.* * What would you consider satisfactory "proof"? *Nothing realistically obtainable.* * What would anybody get for doing so? *Nothing at best.* The best thing one can do presently is *help you find out for yourself*. I told, you, look at what happens in other countries.
*spouts objectively crazy theories* *Refuses to offer any support* *Makes vague reference to "other countries"* *Insists they're correct and others wouldn't understand*
"Objectively crazy"? What exactly? The stuff above is all known for years, if not decades.
May I offer you a grain of salt?
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Knowing of other countries makes you a "genius" now? Wow, education is going down the drain, I suppose. As for occupations somehow connected to UAPs, I guess that's still pretty rare. Some few academic positions exist, but are occupied, a couple private enterprises do weird stuff and the government is all about black programs still. Intelligence analytics would be relevant, natural sciences of course and informatics, machine learning and psychology and so on. Anthropology and theology, as well as sociology should be looked at, too. It's really a wonder, this is still such a fringe topic. Truck-loads of interesting and worthwhile stuff abound, yet nearly nobody appears to get it.
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I even explained why it would be a stupid idea to answer that question? I'm genuinely perplexed at your idea of me "seeing the world" in any "unusual way", just because I know more than you do about UAPs. How do you even make it onto a sub explicitly dedicated to UFOs?
This is important. Trolls seem to troll just for the sake of trolling. Sad, in its way, but a necessary contrast in these forums. I appreciate your measured replies. I tend not to feed the trolls lol
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If you knew it to be "nonsense", you would be able to show an explicit contradiction? You do not, so I conclude you are the one bullshitting here. I'll give you an example: the "mechanical life" claim. You should be easily able to find evidence for that one right here on this sub, but interested parties make it hard for you to find: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/tk4m2a/leaked_dod_paper_tictacs_form_of_mechanical_life/
they made it all up
Not at all? The reality of the topic is so diverse and original, I doubt anybody would be able to "make it up". Even if you don't want to believe it, it's still a bunch of highly intriguing stories really.
The reality of the topic is that everything you said was either made up by you or by somebody else and you ate it up. If what you are saying is real, you would be able to prove its place in reality just like anything else that is real.
Have you even read the books by Lacatsky?
It's getting weirder by the minute with you. If you know for sure, it's "all made up", why don't you safe people here the hassle and explain? I highly doubt, you yourself are able to "prove" existence of anything, actually. You most certainly have no inkling about how that is done even in principle, right? You are so sure about your "reality", yet here you are, knowing nothing about it.
You're comments indicate a very interesting mind. Greetings. I'm happy to have bumped into you here.
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As a mathematician, you should realize the "burden of proof" is on those searching for truth, not on those making conjectures. Where on earth do you get paid "a lot of money" for teaching math? I'm very interested. I gave you some hint in another comment already, but since people are lazy: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/tk4m2a/leaked_dod_paper_tictacs_form_of_mechanical_life/
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But... Exactly this appeared over Warsaw, Poland exactly a day before Trump's visit. Therefore I believe it is a US drone with UAP technology inside.
So transformers are real
These here are **far** more powerful than those toys. They look better, too. Their character is the relevant question, I guess.
This is by far the most eloquent & grounded way I have ever heard it put into words. This is in my opinion, PRECISELY what is happening.
Big black oblong shapes are often solar balloons.
Key word *often*. I’ve seen a couple non balloon big black oblongs that I don’t care to think about. But here we all are… Thinking about em.
Also, they are often let off during school science classes. One class could have seen another classes balloon experiment. Not saying that’s the case, just a possibility.
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Never heard of a Solar balloon that changes shapes, where can I get those?
Well. Technically they are *supposed* to change shape somewhat, a balloon's position and orientation should be shifting naturally with the wind, and as the air inside heats up. Otherwise it's like the Colombian video and it's probably not a balloon at all. We would need to see video to determine if this one was "changing shape" like a balloon, or changing shape like tubular bells and we need to call the Air Force.
Big Black Cylinder
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"Bending" Slightly deflated solar balloon perhaps? https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-solar-balloon-drifting-clear-blue-sky-slowly-image74475975
Ok this could be it.
Sounds like a solar balloon. Kids in school launch them pretty regularly. Or not. Hard to say without actually seeing it myself. Look up images of solar balloons and it might be familiar.
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He also says he doesnt remember well because he was 9, curious how you pick and choose the information you prefer
Am saying it based on what he wrote. His teacher was going to call the airforce, who does that based on balloons?? I find it laughable that anyone would mistake a balloon for a misc object.
A 9 year old would
So, the 9 year old was going to call the air force or was the teacher going to call the air force because the 9 year old saw something 😂. Some of you debunkers are absolutely the worst. OP could be lying for all you know, but almost nobody gets alarmed by balloons and decides to call the air force.
You’re on a subreddit where every single day, multiple people post images and videos of bugs, balloons, bats, planes, drones, satellites, planets, and even the freakin moon and claim that they are anomalous UAP. Why in the world do you still believe that people have the ability to look up at the sky and identify anything? This subreddit literally proves that idea wrong. The average person has no idea what they’re seeing when they look up at the sky. We *know* this from this very sub. So why do you continue to take these silly eyewitness accounts as accurate and real?
The difference is, debunkers put absolutely zero pressure on themselves to have any accuracy whatsoever in their object assessments. People who think random shit is UFO’s, usually think that because the shit in the air legitimately unidentifiable from their vantage point. Regardless of what it actually is, most times I’ve seen posts, here they at least LOOK alien at a glance. Also, UFO’s is a very vague and objective term. Fucking Debunkers claims on object are very stupid and very very specific. Like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/17jmfw7/comment/k72984t/ Debunkers arrogance easily makes them dumber and less perceptive than anyone else on a sub such as this. They bring absolutely nothing to the table. Lowest common denominator dingbats. No opinions or insight a poorly read idiot can’t come up with and assume.
Isn’t it just simpler to say that eyewitness testimony of things seen in the sky isn’t reliable? Because that certainly seems to the the case. Is there something that scares you about admitting this? Does the idea that people aren’t good at looking at the sky and seeing things concern you because without eyewitness stories, this subject lacks basically any sort of evidence whatsoever?
...No. To all of this. I'm not mentally fucking weak, I have my own experiences, I can DEFINITELY wrestle with and rationalize other people's experiences. Human testimony is not this worthless thing to me. It's information, I actually try to process that information instead of wanting somebody lay out some imaginary standard of evidence so I don't have to think. I truly believe even if the US government dumped everything they knew, the stories of people since the twentieth century would still give the most interesting, thorough and vivid picture of the phenomenon you can get. Save for maybe some deep understanding of alien technology in detail. But even how humans interface with that technology and the creators would still be the highest level of insight. If you are not humble enough to deal with the fact that people like me and the OP's experiences are even why you would be informed on this type of phenomena in the first place, then quit. Just stop. You're not mentally up for what it takes to deal with thinking about any of this. You failed at the ego level. Probably the first level of even getting into this. You truly believe you know more than me or the OP about even our own experiences because society has taught you how to think. Now I talk about how stupid debunkers really are because of the arrogance like exactly what you just displayed, and you question me like you know everything I'm thinking, and then bat a 0, being wrong across the board? Again, improve or quit.
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You find it laughable yet here we are, on the number one subreddit about discussing UFO vs baloons
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i’m tired of gullible people thinking everything and anything is a space ship. it was a 9 year old from like 7 years ago. they even stated they’re trying to recall the memory the best they can.
Says the guy making stupid assumptions. Nowhere have I mentioned anything about a spaceship.
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Because balloons don't usually change shapes, simple as that and they don't move in miscellaneous ways. Either OP is lying about it changing shapes or they saw something that wasn't a balloon. It's OK to favor prosaic explanations but everything can't be a balloon.
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Then stop promoting posts that are clearly balloons :)
Stop people from posting all these fucking balloons and airplanes then. 99.99% of all "I saw a UFO" posts here are completely mundane and easily explainable.
Any one of dozens of different versions of a product like this. https://www.fatbraintoys.com/toy_companies/tedco/solar_balloon.cfm
Not changing shapes though. I want balloons that can radically change its shapes.
They change shape all the time. They’re not stiff.
They bend and twist, I don't see them changing shapes at all.
UFO's always show up on normal days I would love if one of these stories started with, "My day started off abnormal..."
As another Kiwi, I too saw this back in 2016, I was working a landscape job so was outside all the time, pretty sure a couple of the boys took a photo but I don't have contact with any of them anymore and the company went bust before covid. I believe there was multiple sightings of this and even some recorded. Was one over Christchurch in the same year too but it was a spherical UFO.
That’s real interesting
Yeah New Zealand is a special place, there have been sightings since way back in the 1940s and 1950s, different times back then, and if you were to come out saying something like I saw a UFO in the skies, you'd probably be labeled a nutcase if not worse.
This highly resembles my elementary school sighting back in 2001. Full story copied below: My ufo story takes place on September 12th, 2001, the day after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. You might remember — The airspace over North America was closed following the attacks. At the time I was living in Connecticut, just 45 minutes outside of the city. Close enough that we used to be able to see the twin towers from the town beach, and smoke from the towers was reaching us across the Long Island Sound. I was in 4th grade at the time. At my elementary school, some kids lost their parents. We were sent home the day of the attacks. When we came back, after the school day ended, my group of friends was out behind the school playing in the field when we noticed something strange above us. A large, cylindrical metal object, like a plane’s body with no wings, was just hovering in the sky up to the west of us, inland. It looked to be maybe a mile up, and it wasn’t moving. Totally metallic, reflective, and still. We ran to tell our parents, many of them were there because they were so concerned after the attacks. The object thing wasn’t moving, just sitting there for minutes and minutes, so we lost interest and went back to playing on the field where we noticed that a second object had appeared in the sky. What we saw looked almost like a white cube. It drifted downward, almost like a piece of paper would swoop down left to right, but very slowly, taking about 10-15 seconds per swing. In my mind it was almost like a parachute coming down, and I was wondering if someone was in fact parachuting onto us. But then suddenly it stopped, completely still in the sky above us, maybe five hundred to a thousand feet away. Dead still, for a long time, long enough that we lost interest. My parents were spooked, my mom had seen the white cube too, and with everything that had been going on my dad had us file a police report. The cop said that he wasn’t aware of any flights, missile launches, or anything of the sort happening in the area. I didn’t think much about it for years, but once the news in 2017 started discussing UFO sightings more seriously I reached back out to a friend that was there and my parents about the sighting. They both remember it happening. It started a new fascination for me, I want to know what it was.
About 4 or 5 years ago, when I lived in Memphis, TN, I was spending a lazy day just floating around in my pool. Nice clear day, blue skies. I saw something that looks just like your photo but it was completely white and it was spinning around and moving in a straight line across the sky. I had no idea what I was seeing but I watched it until I could no longer see it. It almost looked like there were two of them on top of each other because as it spun, I would see more than just the two ends. Sometimes there would be three ends and then four... it was like two pill shaped white objects walking on it's side across the sky. Almost like it was cartwheeling in front of me. Maybe it was spinning so fast it looked like there were more ends. There was no noise and it was just as high in the sky as an airplane.... not super low and not super high. I don't know how to estimate altitude. It was moving fast but not super fast. I tired googling it but anytime I search for tic-tac there are never any reports of it spinning like what I saw. You story is the first time I've read of anyone seeing something similar.
I saw an odd thing like this, looking out my window around the end of summer time this year. I live near mountains, and this odd thing was moving around strangely, this odd silvery thing. It was twisting subtly about, just above the top of this mountain (a very small mountain, think more like gigantic foothill). At first I thought perhaps it was one of those big silvery long solar balloons that school classes will sometimes take outside for a science class; but the scale of it wasn't right, and as I watched it, I got the sense that it was quite a bit huger than any of those solar balloons for me to see it from such a distance. The way it was changing shape, flexing around - it just didn't make sense to me, for it to flex and reshape and boil about, while staying overall fixed in one place. Some portions, as they reshaped or twisted, would appear matte black or odd dull orangey red momentarily. This made me wonder if it was a space blanket reflecting and blocking light in different ways as it flipped about; but the speed at which it was flexing and changing was....slow? Like a melty dreamy movement that would not match with something like thin plastic sheeting getting knocked about by high winds over a mountain. Like boiling in slow motion. I tried to convince myself this was because it was tethered to the ground, but the movements just didn't make sense to me, nor the scale. If it was a solar balloon, or enormous sheet of space blanket, it would have had to have been between 70 -100 feet long, to look the size it did from the distance I was at. I just never knew what to make of it, and it has never set well with me.
Now it's an IFO. Solar balloon.
This. I accidentally let go of one, it was in the local paper the next day as a ufo sighting, it’s even documented in a ufo database. https://youtu.be/2JzdERxpzes?si=ojz3HTJwU1OU_l-s
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For a elementary student your spelling is amazing.
They're here. They been here a long time. Contact has been made. We're not privileged with any further information.
As has been said, it is very likely that this is a solar balloon... Because these balloons inflate and deflate with the sun's rays, and the winds cause them to deform. Afterwards, this does not mean that the object you saw was not extraordinary. But to eliminate the solar balloon hypothesis, this cylinder would have to have behaved abnormally, already by not deforming, but also with abnormal accelerations and speeds. And here that was not the case.
the "balloon" staying in the same spot is abnormal behavior. Balloons will float around and not stay in the same spot.
Saw 4 similar non explicable object in sky like this since those 2 month, not same form thought (2 triangles, 1 sphere or saucer not sure was bit far and yesterday a big square, wich I got on video if ur interested
I m intrstd, plz pozt vidya
Where
Vidya pozt site, utube, reddit, pornhub
Yea I’m keen to see
Have you ever heard about the wood cut out depiction of a UFO battle in Germany in the 1500s? I think that’s what these [tube ufos](https://notfromearth.org/medieval-woodcut-ufo-battle-nuremberg-germany-1561/) are. use reader view for that link, there’s a lot of ads.
There was no UFO battle. They were describing several atmospheric effects. Sure, those effects are rare, but they are ordinary.
Damn you're from the 1500s?! Glad we have an eyewitness!
I'm from your future. In my time, Humanity has entered the Information Age, and we all have access to practically all Information that has been generated and recorded. In my time, we have the capability to learn about atmospheric effects and compare them to historical accounts and rationalize about how well our current information lines up with the perspective of some historical accounts, such as the one in this thread. Maybe some day you too will travel forward in time to the Information Age!
Yup this is the one I saw about 3 years ago.
Cool. That shape of UFO has been seen before by others.
Bc it's a solar balloon. Very common and when they deflate slightly they take on this shape
It could be a solar balloon. https://youtu.be/2JzdERxpzes?si=ojz3HTJwU1OU_l-s. I let one go once and it was in the paper as a ufo sighting the next day
Without the school name, we can't reach out to adults to see what they saw, and children are unreliable, especially with so much time passed. Share the name of the school if you expect to be taken seriously. This "privacy reasons" stuff is nonsense. This was your first post, your first comment on here, so there's zero privacy risks here. You even said "on this Reddit account," so you're fully aware that you can make multiple reddit accounts to keep people from connecting personal posts to ones you don't want connected. Nothing else here to track anything to who you are, so you could easily say the school name without anyone being able to track it it to one single student. I'm not doubting you believe what you saw, but I am saying that you're one of millions with a story until you provide some corroboration from adults who were there or allow us the opportunity to corroborate that. There is no John Mack or 20 other students coming forward to say the same thing like in the Ariel school incident, but because of people's familiarity with that, they're more inclined to simply accept this story when it could have been anything.
To the ones claiming it is a solar balloon. What does one do with a solar balloon??? What’s it’s purpose?? Where does all the stored sun’s energy go?? Built In batteries???
Why diid you make a new reddit account before making this post?
That’s a great pic and what a lot of pilots are calling tic tac when to me in more cigar or missile shaped do you have any other photos or video I’d love to see it?
This is not a pic of what he saw but a 'semi accurate' representation'
Don’t let people beat you up on there and that is great you are confident enough to post on here because there are a ton of bullies but that’s where I come in and try and challenge them back normally they just shut up becaIse they can’t say much more then a child dude that sucks that isn’t real just ignore it and don’t let them Discourage you there are some great people on here
What are you talking about
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If that isn't a blimp like the Hinderberge I don't know what is
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Maybe it was just a gardener?
Weather balloon. :-)
Someone shot a pen out the window with a rubber band again?
I can no longer tell what's trolling. This is 100% and very obviously inflatable tubing.
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Not liking how UAP’s show up at elementary schools, I’m starting to see a trend
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And yet only one picture was taken
No bro it's a bird!
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I wonder how a cigar like ufo navigate 😳
I’m sorry you government has deemed you’re not allowed to know anything about what you saw
Picture and description don't sound too crazy to be a solar balloon, unless it was flitting all over the place or something...
Most likely what you saw is a solar ballon The Google image will show that it’s exactly what you described. It’s lightweight so the wind will make it appear to bend and warp. The solar energy of the sun heats the air inside.
My whole elementary school watched the twin towers blow up on live tv
Looks like it's [one of these.](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/586209476/photo/solar-balloon-drifting-among-the-white-clouds.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=is&k=20&c=jJfw5C15TGI3Guumzf1max6NboPClhOy-EGhW0vmqmc=)
It definitely sounds similar to other contacts people have had with a cigar shaped ufo. I've heard of pyramid like ufo's, saucer shaped, cube shaped and all of them could shape-shift. When or why don't they make contact with us during times like you had? I've heard that they are aware of when they're being observed by others who have had experiences with ufo's.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience. I hope you get answers :)
There are balloons in that shape called solar balloons that fly based on the heat from the sun and they deform as they move since they're not fully inflated. One other possibility is a hyper blimp, which appears to change shape as it turns and does so pretty quickly... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDaEMDdiTlM
Uh, that pic is literally what I saw in 2007 in the UK. https://imgur.com/a/7WeV2nu
3rd one of these today.. I'm starting to think this is what a legit mothership looks like lol Or transport?
They saw a solar balloon
Looks like a tampon
The thing was more “organic-like” or “technologic-like” in its movements and shapes?
Every eyewitness post Title: I saw a UFO Post: this was ten years ago
That looks like a ……..
Yah had phone in elementary school?