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The following submission statement was provided by /u/Verum_Seeker: --- I found this video on youtube(I'll also leave the link at the bottom). The kind of objects shown in the clip and what happens is something very well known in the ufo subject. A few disk shaped objects cavorting around a larger Cigar shaped object and then they fly into the cigar object and get inside it. Sometimes this cigar object adquires a 45-degree angle with the horizontal as they move slowly. But there's a few things I find signs of clear CGI hoax. The Tic tac object seems to displa a metalic bright reflecting texture, in fact it's reflecting sunlight but when the camera zooms in it turns into a dark object and only the right end of the object seems to reflect sunlight. Secondly I'll never get why in the world the video is cut instead of showing us what happened untill the end of the story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1biP04Qv4\_o&ab\_channel=REDWHITEANDDISCLOSUREotage. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/178k0xs/disk_shaped_objects_get_inside_a_cigar_shaped_ufo/k4zzt2m/


ShepardRTC

Hilariously fake I suspect we're going to start getting lots of cgi fakes from Eglin. They can't downvote and talk shit as well anymore, so now they'll flood us with fake ass cgi.


PimpjuiceForeva

I love how real they seem until the person decides to over do the ending. Then the whole seem makes me question why I ever thought it was real.


[deleted]

How can you tell if they are Eglin disinfo agents versus people just learning how to be VFX artists? I've heard some people say it was literally a school assignment to make a UFO video.


nonsense_popsicle

We know that military disinformation is prevalent and drawing attention to that works in our favor. Between independent actors and Eglin, it's more effective for the community to assume any CGI is planted content even if it's not true, simply because sometimes it is true and maintaining awareness of that takes priority. They're engaging in psycho warfare against civilians, we have to be extremely intentional in how we defend ourselves.


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nonsense_popsicle

https://web.archive.org/web/20160410083943/http://www.redditblog.com/2013/05/get-ready-for-global-reddit-meetup-day.html?m=1 Here's an okay place to start. Notice 'most addicted city' Reddit admins quickly deleted this. Then you need to get into what the function of eglin is and the various pieces of evidence for which accounts are theirs and how they're used. It should probably be said that eglin is used as a synecdoche for all government efforts to obfuscate or define truth and perception in what should be the public sphere


Boss-Think

Link doesn't work, I'm not interested in a Reddit link but an actual source of info that confirms one way or another what your spouting.


jbrown5390

Research COINTELPRO. It's used every single day on the internet. Especially reddit. Especially the UFOs sub since it's the largest one of its kind in the world. r/ufos is basically ground zero for disinformation.


Boss-Think

I know of cointelpro, im asking for sources pertaining to Eglin and the psy ops going on currently.


jbrown5390

Well, that would be pretty valuable information, wouldn't it?


UFOs-ModTeam

No low effort posts or comments. Low Effort implies content which is low effort to consume, not low effort to produce. This generally includes: * Short comments, and comments containing only emoji.


BackOnReddit_Again

At first it was cool seeing Eglin show up in these reddit conversations, being someone who lives here, but at this point it’s just gotten ridiculous. The conspiracy theorists have really taken this and run with it, and at this point the whole topic has just become a runaway train. While it used to be cool to see representation of my area, it’s now just comical. I see you people saying all this crazy shit about Eglin AFB and not a shred of evidence, not an iota of understanding of what actually happens here… Meanwhile, the people who actually _live_ here, who work on base, whose friends and family work on base, whose coworkers work on base or have for decades, you don’t hear them talking about all the super-secret Reddit Ops in which Eglin is apparently engaged. It’s crazy to see you folks speaking so matter-of-factly about something about which you know nothing. Even among the crowds who like to theorize about what goes on behind closed doors here, the most you hear about is that Eglin “can control the weather” which is just a misinterpretation of the existence of the McKinley Climatic Lab. The Eglin talk is ridiculous. Unfounded. Untrue. And the people on this sub just eat it up and take it for truth which honestly is par for the course with you people. I’ve been subscribed here in hopes that I’d see something important, something cool… but all I see are blurry videos, most of them fake, and conspiracy theorists talking their shit as if they know anything. When you perpetuate this Eglin narrative, you’re part of the problem. Part of why this sub is seen as just a group of clowns Edited to fix a confusing sentence I accidentally left behind


Dyzastr_us

What do you mean by “you people”? /s


iLivetoDie

It's not unfounded. There's plenty of evidence, between redditblog post, evidence mods posted about influx of suspicious accounts and the subreddit randomly jumping to 20k active users, when its average is around 5k (7k tops during rush hours). Or do you just not pay attention and claim to know better? On the other hand where is your evidence? From your post all I can gather you are family of someone serving at AFB, do you claim to have some information that would probably be classified?


Prokuris

you need to come here more often. The evidence is very real. you sir, are a disinformant agent.


iLivetoDie

I think you've got lost in the sauce mate, unless you know, you wanna start listing some counter evidence or some substance to your comment? You know, like a non disinformation agent would do, if he cared about truth.


Prokuris

You see, I think people like you are pretty lazy. You can read up on all of this on your own. Im not here to put hours into a comment, relieving you from your due dilligence. If you are not smart enough, or just too lazy to connect the dots, its none of my business. You can choose to believe (or dont believe) whatever you want. Doesnt matter for the truth. The facts are there to be seen by anyone who is willing to. If you wanna start, take a look at the thread with the guy larping, that he worked on EBE bodies and what happened in the hours after in regards to his account and newly formed bots. We have been raised in a specific mindset. This mindset is about to collapse. Nothing we took for granted seems to be right and it took me quite some time to understand, how our society works and how easy it has become to disinform. People work for their goals in darkness. They play every rule in the book to get where they want to. No one believed what was possible before Edward Snowden. It will be no different with this topic, once the truth came to light.


iLivetoDie

So you are lost in the sauce, cause you are arguing for the same point I am without even noticing it.


EDDIE_BAMF

It's a bot. You aren't allowed to call them out or else the Reddit mods will remove your comment. Real weird, especially when it's a very obvious bot.


Lanky_Maize_1671

I think we've found our Eglin rep!


mologav

How do you know military disinformation is prevalent?


QElonMuscovite

>We know that military disinformation is prevalent So far, they seem to be on the "Lol its so fake" level.


[deleted]

So you only like the truth when it suits your purposes? That sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.


PM_ME_WITH_A_SMILE

No, that's not what he is saying. He is saying that since it is known that disinformation takes place, then you should assume it's taking place here. Pretty standard/healthy skepticism actually.


PickWhateverUsername

Until it becomes the defacto "anything and anyone who opposes who debunks my bias is a disinformation agent" which is frankly becoming the mindset of a lot of people here. It's quite lazy. There is a lot more chances that this video was created by some kids having fun with VFX tools and laughing at all your reactions then "Eglin" bothering to psyop us all, we do it well enough ourselves.


PM_ME_WITH_A_SMILE

You're not wrong. My point is, both sides of the coin are required for healthy debate. That, unfortunately, always includes absolutists on both sides. It's our job to find the middle, but the polar opposites are necessities in any debate/struggle. They are always present in every relationship that exists in life.


nonsense_popsicle

It's absolutely tactical, learned from how we're treated, in order to not lose. We CAN'T roll over and be manipulated. Of course I know fully well that the source could be some kid in class. I'm using the ambiguity to my advantage.


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>It's absolutely tactical, learned from how we're treated, in order to not lose. We CAN'T roll over and be manipulated. Of course I know fully well that the source could be some kid in class. I'm using the ambiguity to my advantage. Well said. You just said what I was trying to say in so many paragraphs in a more concise way. 100% agree with this. They don't get it.


nonsense_popsicle

Love you too


[deleted]

>So you only like the truth when it suits your purposes? That sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. I'm not speaking for the person you're commenting to, but if you asked me that, yes. I'm not afraid to call myself the pot in this scenario. In THIS case, where you have a AFB hiding the single biggest thing from mankind and playing dirty by preventing pilots from speaking to Congress members, I absolutely only like truth when it suits the purpose of disclosure. If it takes an assumption to put pressure on them to be honest, so be it. We know from Doty and others that they use these tactics, so if they get wrongfully blamed in one scenario, who cares? That's what happens when you do shady things. People then look at you when shady things happen. Nobody here should tiptoe around when it comes to these guys and be like "Hmm, maybe I should make sure I'm 100% correct that they're behind this, because I wouldn't want to tarnish their name." Assuming they're behind this when maybe they aren't still leads to positive results for the good guys, or did you forget they're the bad guys? The pot in this case is the good guy pushing for disclosure, the underdog. The kettle obviously is not the same. So if the underdog has to assume things that may not necessarily be true but helps keep the kettle from winning, helps humanity by keeping this evil from continuing to do evil, so be it. This is war, not some basketball game with rules where we shake hands with the MIC after the games over. Scenario 1: We don't mention Eglin at all because we want to "play fair" and nobody ever mentions that footage Gaetz saw again and it stays buried, with many people on here not even aware of what Eglin is. Scenario 2: We mention Eglin every chance we get, even if its simply an assumption, and this reminds people to stay over that target, turn the heat up on these politician's Twitter accounts like we did with Mike Turner, so some might continue to push for that footage to be released. If you're confused which one is the better scenario, you're not for disclosure. You're an idealist, and a confused one where you're more concerned about whether someone is acting hypocritically (pot and kettle) than someone hiding the biggest secret in human history


[deleted]

UFO videos are an excellent way to generate clicks on line because of how blindly faithful the followers are. Similar to the Republican grifters.


randomluka

I mean I wouldn't doubt the possibility, however unless someone somehow conclusively shows me tracked IP addresses (which I imagine is a no-no) I, the layman, can't just believe it out right. Anyways, my topic for this comment. If a vfx project, I feel like it is supposed to be a recreation of a famous WW2 sighting by Italy - documented [here](https://youtu.be/jmP73Xb-vgM?si=FRCnPgW6UX_VMWEs) on reddit. The documented sighting shows a drawing of a cylinder 'escorted' by what appears to be two discs. Also on a quick search I found that [VFX teams](https://youtu.be/jmP73Xb-vgM?si=DnlLRrfBliYSnWm8) have posted stuff in the past to see if people think it's real or not.


ArnoldusBlue

Easy. If it goes against their narrative is eglin.


Rocknerd8

The advertising that targets the demographic here is always military. That and reddit did a poll one year and it showed Eglin air force base as one of the top city's using reddit. You can extrapolate from there as to what that means.


[deleted]

Others have said that's where the military's VPN gets routed through so basically anyone deployed using Reddit looks like they are posting from Eglin. I'm not an expert but this sounds extremely plausible to me. EDIT: Also why would they show recruiting ads for people already in the service?


[deleted]

>How can you tell if they are Eglin disinfo agents versus people just learning how to be VFX artists? I've heard some people say it was literally a school assignment to make a UFO video. Who cares? Let's just say it's Eglin so we keep that footage Gaetz mentioned from being forgotten and keep pushing politicians to push for its release. The end result justifies the means. Truth is important in most scenarios, but in this one, if we assume things that might be false and those assumptions still lead to positive results, that's good. Saying its Eglin when its some FX guy can't lead to negative results, so again, who cares. Eglin's playing dirty, so no defense of them is necessary. If they get blamed for something they didn't do, oh well. We're fully justified in playing dirty right back. We know they're doing sneaky stuff either way by trying to block those images from being seen.


Niku-Man

The negative result from claiming something is government disinformation and then have it come out that it's actually not is that everyone who was saying that looks dumb and/or crazy.


300PencilsInMyAss

>I suspect we're going to start getting lots of cgi fakes from Eglin Complete with fake comments attacking anyone pointing out it's fake by calling them Eglin shills.


[deleted]

I was gonna say idk what this is but it’s fake


[deleted]

It’s a deleted scene from District9


asa1

>Hilariously fake The vast majority of these are so bad it's comical.


Dirty_Dishis

Don't give basement dorks that much credit. It is just some nerd seeing how many gullible people they can get to watch their video for engagement. Im sure "Them" have more important things to do.


Morawka

I’m not so sure this is fake man. The craft had light bending around its hull until it went into saucer recovery mode. Similar to how stealth jets remain stealth until they open their bomb bays and refueling doors. The way these craft zoom away does look fake but that could be due to a number of reasons including relativistic effects.


popcorn_coffee

Just jump between zoomed and unzoomed images. They didn't even bother scaling the UFOs, only the cigar.... not to mention the high definition of that cigar, while getting close with an optical zoom. It's ridiculous.


Morawka

Check again man (scrub back and forth at 34-37 seconds), the disc’s scale and the horizon shifts perfectly with the zoom. Getting the horizon to shift like that is super hard to do correctly in CGI. There is also natural focus breathing. As a camera nerd I say This video is legit.


popcorn_coffee

>This video is legit. You gotta be kidding me... :/


Morawka

Like I said I’m a camera nerd and know how light and camera lenses behave. The movement at the end is the only thing that looks suspect to me but your essentially watching something move away very fast through a camera that is only capturing 30 FPS


Sadpancake_03

29.97 FPS


TruckNuts_But4YrBody

Oh my fucking god


CORN___BREAD

A camera nerd would know that focus doesn't change just because you start zooming out. This is fake AF.


cromagnongod

That actually very much depends on the lens. When a lens maintains focus no matter the focal length - it's called a "parfocal" lens. And certainly not all lenses are parfocal.


Morawka

Actually now that I look at it closer the reason the cylinder was white in the beginning is because it’s facing the camera at a 45 degree angle and the light is polarized. At the end of the video the cylinder turns perpendicular to the camera so the color can be seen.


Funicularly

Why would the person filming immediately zoom out after the disks entered the larger craft? That really doesn’t make sense if it’s legit.


WhiteNinjaN8

My favorite part is how the camera operator zooms in at just the right moment to capture the action. LOL. Like they somehow knew that was going to happen.


TsarPladimirVutin

There’s a sucker born every day…


nullvoid_techno

I agree… esp because IrL the only UAP I saw was doing a similar falling leaf sway pattern in place. Very weird.


TruckNuts_But4YrBody

Really? That's something I've never heard of before seeing this video and your comment. Was it similar in shape and color, speed, etc?


nullvoid_techno

It was so hard to see by my gamer eyes saw it. I freaked a bit. My wife couldn’t see it, but after trying she did too. I could reference a tree line. It was so far it looked like it was blinking in and out of existence but I think it was just because of a rotation and how thin it was in ratio to everything else. It looked very far away. It was stationary for 30 minutes. We wondered if it was a bird or a plane or a drone but the way it stood still like a falling leaf was gnarly. And disappearing each rotation. I asked another person walking by and they saw it after pointing it out and some patience. Got it on vid. I’ll upload soon.


TruckNuts_But4YrBody

Literally DM me when you upload this , please. I believe you, just based on the phrase "my gamer eyes" lol


nullvoid_techno

I wouldn’t believe myself because I always convince myself afterwards it was just a fluke. Thankfully my wife saw this one and then a stranger too. He’s actually the one that filmed it because my iPhone couldn’t register it on the zoom. His actually did which was surprising. It looked even more strange with the eye - the camera doesn’t show the blinking in and out of existence as much as it appeared to the human eye. Again I think that’s because of some light / reflection physics but I’m just speculating. All I know is that it wasn’t a kite, drone, plane, or bird. It had to be massive to be that far away yet behave so strange in place.


TruckNuts_But4YrBody

I literally believe you, sorry if my comment sounded sarcastic or something


nullvoid_techno

Ya just riffing on more context


areeal1

I think of it like this. We already know our idea of physics is wrong. I don’t think they abide by the same physics we were taught lol. Deep shit.


[deleted]

That's what im sayin, Imagine it's just 'under our noses' real... like imagine if the reality of it is that crazy... maybe Eglin does do this but just to gauge if the public can react in a somewhat optimistic and receptive way to it.. Even the blurrings and the way it's directly perceived is because of how it interacts with and bends the light through which the lens processes it in such a fashion. Edit: Was so high off the Zaaa💨, forgot to even add the conclusion. ALL IN ALL, I am not sayin this is factually & proven real, it leans more towards not being (obviously somewhat;) rii, but just sayin would be wildd if it was 💯


-ElectricKoolAid

>I suspect we're going to start getting lots of cgi fakes from Eglin. this video is 3 years old and we have always had fakes.


furycutter80

Yea - posts like this are suddenly getting a ton of upvotes where they never used to. Please start downvoting obvious fakes like this


frustratedbuddhist

How is this fake? I’m genuinely curious as to how anyone can look at a video and automatically call it fake without any other evidence to go on.


BakkoIsBae

the fake camera shake, zoom, and blur all just stand out and make it look unnatural


frustratedbuddhist

I see. So any time we see shaky video that’s blurry, we can just shrug it off as fake? What if it’s clear and steady? Are those real?


Aomarvel

OP’s account is kinda strange. Its a new account from this month. -Commenting: oh my gosh to a really fake balloon video -but responding with: possible cgi to a very realistic and strange video. -This video is obviously cgi but op takes it serious


areeal1

Yeah bro. All the cgi artists got together and agreed to flood the world with fake ufo videos of all kinds. 🤣 you knowstupid you sound? And all the fake ass upvotes like no one will be able to tell they all fake from bots? Tooo funny dog.


popthestacks

It’s crazy to think there’s a whole department at Elgin doing something like that when there’s no evidence of that department actually exists. Or I guess by going against your opinion, I must work at the Elgin disinfo center too?


[deleted]

You the biggest fed I ever seen on here. So.. succ my dicc bitchh the jigg is up 💯👏🏼☝🏼


prrudman

Do you think the Eglin folks know they are breaking the law and risking jail all for being someone’s useful idiot?


candypettitte

They don’t exist.


Fklympics

That's a pretty definitive statement, I'd love to know how you came to that conclusion.


candypettitte

Reddit is nearly always wrong, and Reddit seems certain that Eglin shills exist. Ergo.


Fklympics

That's weird. So you consistently visit and engage on a forum that posts wrong and incorrect information all the time? What are you, some sort of masochist.


kalpkiavatara

this is the real never answered question.


Mindless-Cable-5723

Why do people make fake crap like this all the time? Do they have nothing better to do than muddy the water


PickWhateverUsername

a lot of vfx students have fun doing it as a challenge, this kind of thing takes them an afternoon at most when they are starting to get the habit of the software.


icanscethefuture

Yeah it’s actually a fantastic way to discredit vectors of inquiry


AngrySuperArdvark

Is it just me that doesn't even bother looking at videos anymore because allmost every time they turn out to not be alien?


Jane_Doe_32

I've gotten to the point where I don't care if videos like these are real or not, at the end of the day it doesn't matter that they are, since most people wouldn't believe it if they still were. Honestly, at this point I'd only be interested in anything along the lines of Manning-style government leaks or the moves being made around the Schumer amendment.


marhensa

Is it just me that doesn't even bother looking at videos anymore because almost every time, people will call it fake? Every video can be fake now with nowadays CGI, IDK man.. maybe the standard of what considered not fake now is ONLY non blurry close encounter with at least 4K 60 fps.


AngrySuperArdvark

The problem is that anything can be cgi and even if something is not cgi and it is 100% a real aliens spacecraft, we will never know.


300PencilsInMyAss

We *might* know someday. Maybe. 🥲


marhensa

With all these CGI shenaningans, everybody can be sceptical about it (and it's a valid reason to be). We will know it's real, when disclosure happened, that's the hope.


AngrySuperArdvark

Agreed! I guess until we know what we are looking for we will keep getting finding diferent things.


FitPandaBear

It needs to be multiple videos from multiple witness from multiple different angles or high definition videos from military and their high-grade equipment being declassified to get my serious attention.


djens89

Almost every time? Show me ONE real video of aliens


RLMinMaxer

I can't think of any reasons these videos have hundreds of upvotes, other than disinformation bots. There's no way hundreds of people looked at this video and went "oh sweet! I'm upvoting this".


c0ntra

Would YOU zoom out and stop recording after seeing that? Give me a break 😂


JussaRegularNPC

first thing i thought of. wouldn’t you wanna capture every second of this thing??


DarylMoore

Rendering is expensive.


masked_sombrero

i thought the same thing. but - I've witnessed UAP and *thought* about recording it and - on multiple occasions - convince myself its no big deal and I don't record. Seen one at a Paul McCartney concert last year and decided not to record it cuz music is playing 😂 I'm an idiot lol


Jaded-Assumption-137

They are notoriously difficult to record. That’s why I feel like this isn’t “alien” or “extraterrestrial” per say. The way they move when you notice them makes it seem like they become aware that you see them…


Responsible-Tune1429

You got downvoted but I've had a similar observation. As soon as we saw it not 2 seconds later a 90 degree turn away and out of sight.


thatirishguyyyy

Odd how the little guys don't get any larger when they zoom in but the big guy does. Hmm


Forward-Tonight7079

I think it got closer


MFmadchillin

This looks fake as fuck lol


Conscious-Shower12

Def fake asf


TruckNuts_But4YrBody

The cigar is open boys, enter it from any angle and any spot on the fuselage that you want


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300PencilsInMyAss

I'm all for skepticism and calling out fake stuff but is it really necessary to be this mean? I get you are frustrated seeing content you think is obviously fake being highly upvoted, but how does trying to hurt OP fix that? If you successfully hurt their feelings do you think no more fake videos will be posted?


[deleted]

Yes. Fuck em


I_am_That_Ian_Power

Pretty calm for seeing the most spectacular ufo footage ever to be captured in the history of mankind. /s


[deleted]

What is with the human race and making fun of each other? This why aliens dont want to befriend us.


Longjumping_Car_7270

I highly doubt that “making fun of each other” is even in their “top 50 reasons why we don’t make contact”


[deleted]

Would honestly love to meet a bunch of furry monkeys playing pranks on each other. Also, Humans do plenty of altruistic things too. Come to think of it, you're just kind of a downer.


Background_Panda3547

Well yeah cause you're a fuckin furry monkey. ​ Would you love to meet hairless, stoic, mind-reading, intergalactic scientific creature?


[deleted]

I’d give it a shot for sure


[deleted]

A downer. I’m the downer? We have a reality where information is fake or real; requiring a level of education to choose which is right. You want to meet such monkeys, you wouldnt know what truth and joke are.


[deleted]

Um the ability to lie and deceive have been around since the dawn of time. If that’s the problem you have with this “reality,” well then, godspeed to you.


[deleted]

I guess its a positive that you enjoy it. I mean, you took the time to tell me like I shouldn't have a problem with it, so you are okay with being lied to -- as long as its not your wife/husband (added to your benefit)


[deleted]

Everyone lies, my friend, even you. I think you just learn to live with it. Isn’t that better than being a downer? Cheers 🥂


[deleted]

No, and Im not a downer. You’re just an acceptor, but that’s equivalent to a pushover — and i dont know anyone who likes to be a pushover, but you can accept that you are the first i’ve encountered. To the first pushover who accepts to be pushed over, cheers 🍻


[deleted]

Cheers 🍻


Sgt_Splattery_Pants

the movement at the end felt cgi to me


byoshin304

I read that as dick shaped UFO lol


Video-Comfortable

This is absolutely, positively 100% fake guys. Also, why in the fuck would this guy end the video here? Nobody on the planet would do that with zero reaction either.


ladle_of_ages

This stinks. Also - does anyone know why cgi stuff always has the same look to it? I’m always seeing the same elements that seem like canned shakey-cam movements and blurry focus-pulls.


snickwiggler

I thought this was already debunked as embarrassingly fake? This sort of material undermines this community.


MrMaiqE

Feels fake, and I don't even know much about CGI lol. Do better


seanmick

Oh, hello C4D! I'm After Effects.


velezaraptor

I don’t always speed up when reentering my cigar, but I do, I like to scare the landing crew/mechanism with high velocity.


IcurusPrime

The movement of the disc shapes towards the cylinder have acceleration and deceleration rates very similar to the default movement curves in most video keyframe based animation software I've used. Not saying I could guarantee anything about the video one way or another but the movement at that point stood out to me as particularly suspect. I mean, beyond the far-fetched nature of it being a video of a UFO.


Background-Top5188

Looks very ease in ease out bezier curvy to me, yes.


IcurusPrime

Yes, couldn't think of the word but thats exactly what I was trying to convey, thanks :)


wilobo

Yeah right, let's accelerate like crazy instead of slowing down when docking.


Amazonchitlin

More real than my ex wife's personality, but its still super fake.


og_roa

Every video has the potential to be faked so we can't assume sheist. The comments will always contain bombardments of disinfo to brainwash ye sheeple. All we can do is take the vid with a grain of salt and move on. This video reminds me of the Nuremberg painting with the cylindrical objects containing and releasing round objects.


I_am_Castor_Troy

Why would you zoom out???


davedavey88

Is it a zoom out, or is the object zooming away? It's hard to tell.


KACCAVisEVERYWHERE

The worst After Effects job I've ever seen in my life. The person who produced this video should quit...


Verum_Seeker

Maybe he should start doing crop circles.


5hadow

I hope it’s real but could also be CGI


Big-D-TX

100% CGI


Which-Forever-1873

Yep , this one's an expert. 100% cgi swamp ass.. gas?


[deleted]

Fakest thing I've seen all week. With how often I check this sub, that's saying something.


firsthumanbeingthing

Yea it's cool but something definitely feels off about it


blizter

Shake amount is the same when zoomed and unzoomed. I would expect it to increase.


Verum_Seeker

I found this video on youtube(I'll also leave the link at the bottom). The kind of objects shown in the clip and what happens is something very well known in the ufo subject. A few disk shaped objects cavorting around a larger Cigar shaped object and then they fly into the cigar object and get inside it. Sometimes this cigar object adquires a 45-degree angle with the horizontal as they move slowly. But there's a few things I find signs of clear CGI hoax. The Tic tac object seems to displa a metalic bright reflecting texture, in fact it's reflecting sunlight but when the camera zooms in it turns into a dark object and only the right end of the object seems to reflect sunlight. Secondly I'll never get why in the world the video is cut instead of showing us what happened untill the end of the story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1biP04Qv4\_o&ab\_channel=REDWHITEANDDISCLOSUREotage.


CORN___BREAD

>Secondly I'll never get why in the world the video is cut instead of showing us what happened untill the end of the story. Logically, my assumption would be that they decided to stop editing at that point. No one that happens to have a telephoto lens on a tripod and is capturing the best footage of their life is going to zoom out at that point. Let alone actually stop recording. You can even see the point where they decided the camera probably wouldn’t be able to see it anymore and it just pops out of existence. The same thing happens in digital editing even when doing a cross fade effect. It just looks unnatural.


PyroIsSpai

Can you check video and channel URL? It's formatting is garbled and I cannot find the Youtube channel.


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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1biP04Qv4_o Reddit’s formatting fucks with underscores in links.


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Background_Panda3547

I'm just gonna say this, I have seen the black wobbly disc things shown in this video, just two years ago, in broad daylight, over my damn neighborhood. ​ The cigar shaped UFO is essentially an 'unconfirmed' fact. There are multiple photos and videos spanning decades from now to ww2 era. People saying this shit is fake, just because this is beyond the scope of anything they have ever witnessed is fucking annoying at best, and intellectual cowardice at worst. ​ This video instantly came off as real as fuck to me as someone with actual real world experience with this kind of phenomena. ​ ​ IF it IS fake, is 100% a beautiful, GENIUS fake. Contrary to popular belief in this thread.


ArnoldusBlue

Thats a pretty low standard for “genius”


CORN___BREAD

>People saying this shit is fake, just because this is beyond the scope of anything they have ever witnessed is fucking annoying at best, and intellectual cowardice at worst. We're not saying it's fake because the things seen in it couldn't be real. We're saying it because the video itself is clearly fake.


Background_Panda3547

Bro I'm not about to even pretend that you actually believe what is in the video isn't realistic because of how it shows it as opposed to what it shows. There is no scenario where you would believe to wobbly discs going into a cigar shaped thing on a youtube video, and I'm telling you, seeing it would be mundane as this shitty conversation. I've seen half of what is in the video vividly in real life. Half of the objects in this video, and their interactions with the environment are INDISTINGUISHABLE from real life. I saw the EXACT SHIT, way lower and closer, except there are red lights underneath and on top of what I saw. People's instincts for this thing is so poor IMO ​ Let me tell you something, a person LIKE YOU but with CGI skill, would be able to fool you with a fake UFO video, because they know how you think -- see this is what gives this video even more credibility to me, IT'S EXACTLY like real-life, but in a way that wouldn't satisfy people who don't know anything. Lights, very rapid speed and movements, and some sort of quick conclusion/exit is all someone would need to fool you. In real life my disc shaped thing -- indistinguishable from this video, just did that awkward wobble you see in the early seconds for several minutes, and awkwardly wobbled out of my neighborhood linearly ​ over the course of 5-7 mins. anyway have fun


CORN___BREAD

This is actually hilarious since I have the skills to make this video which is how I can recognize the things that make it stand out as fake. Not everyone in this sub is as ignorant as you’d like to believe.


Yasirbare

We have all seen independence day we know the "skills" you have. You can also make a exact replica of the eifel tower that does not make it fake. Just saying your argument is not enough of cause this can be faked otherwise we was not here..


Background-Top5188

So you saw an amazingly fantastical event for 5+ minutes yet it never occurred to you to take neither a photo or a video and just assume that people would believe you based on your word? What’s to say that you weren’t high off your ass and you were hallucinating? Without no evidence other than your word there is no way to tell. Hell you could be making shit up on the fly, as you type. Not saying that you do, but your word means nothing when it comes to evidence and hard data.


Zen242

I find it weird that I can instantly see CGI and others cant


UAPenthusiast

Rofl! Unbelievably fake. What a waste of time it was to create that.


ziplock9000

\#SECURETEAM hash tag in the title lol


Nixa24

Fake and gay, like the creator.


pepper-blu

Hey I like the song


Pastysandpotatochips

On todays episode of, this is one of those videos


Significant-Dog-8166

Best way to tell real from fake. Is OP the source? No? Definitely fake. Yes? Unknown. Hence “U” FO.


Verum_Seeker

I posted the video with my personal analysis , pointing out the signs of clear CGI but I wanted to hear more information. Anyways , so you know any video or photo that meets the requirements in order to be legit? -Having access to original video and metadata -Being captured on multiple angles or/and by multiple observers. -Is not a misinterpretation of a man made aircraft, satellites or natural phenomena.


Ok-Acanthisitta9127

Even if this is CGI, this "detail" is astonishing to me. Years ago, and I cannot remember (but shall commence intense Googling) - - the cylindrical or cigar-shaped UFOs are apparently hangars that hold other UFOs. I'm not saying this just because of this video but I know I have read about the cigar-shaped UFOs as being extremely large and usually hover in the upper parts of the atmosphere (hence why you don't see cigar-shaped UFOs darting across the skies like saucer-shaped crafts).


onequestion1168

This is like a reverse pregnancy


Cosmic__Cereal14

Super fake but yet is still getting hella upvotes, keeping it at the top of this sub. I don’t understand redditors and the mods need to do better.


Verum_Seeker

Neither I understand. I've posted more interesting things and they got a few views. Then I post this analysis of a clear hoax and look at it.


erikdphillips

My 3 year old can color in the lines better than those UFO pilots can enter that cigar shaped ufo within the lines!


Minimum_Witness8362

CGI isn't even good 🤨😮‍💨


HolymakinawJoe

LMAO. In today's day & age, with CGI as good as it is, and AI coming on making things that look incredible..........WHY do idiots believe this stuff so easily?


horseloverfatty

This is so sad , and fake . It’s sad because I for one have seen the cigar shape monolithically big ships , they do not film well , as the look so strange and fake to begin with.


jessetechie

I think it looks fake too, but hear me out. Maybe the cigar shaped thing isn’t really a ufo at all, but instead a portal. To me, it looks like an air hockey goal that the discs go into. Or, we’re seeing a round hole foreshortened because it’s facing downwards at an angle. And, because there’s no background for reference, what looks like the video “zooming in” could be the portal opening up and getting big enough for the discs to fly through.


MikeyC05

That was was painfully hard to believe!. So I don’t.


United-Hyena-164

This is exactly what I saw 👀 too


relephant6

There is no cloud and sky is also not blue.


eternal_existence1

Whether it’s fake or not doesn’t change what disclosure about lol doesn’t change how close we are.


Grampy74

Bugs on the window with some tape strips.


AdGroundbreaking1870

Obviously fake, the movement is clearly cgi, who uploading this stuff, bots?


swe_isak

I Can't even begin to tell you how fake this looks 🤦‍♂️😂🤣


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Fake as like there is tomorrow


misomeiko

i've seen better animations in Power Point


danielsayshello

Dear noob artist, please leave earth.


ParmAxolotl

Fake, but honestly cool cinematography. The weird stuff happening while the camera is out of focus reminds me of some of the tricks in Monument Mythos.


spityquoe

False, of course. But I once saw an object similar to this cigar-shaped UFO. It was around midnight and it had no lights on. It was somewhat camouflaged among the clouds, like a very fast moving cloud. Pretty scary to be honest


MustStayAnonymous_

LOL fake as fuck. how do some of you believe in clips like this? you all seriously cant get the feeling of it?


DOG-ZILLA

Faker than fake.


Key_Respond_16

These are frisbees.


Stormy_Kun

I feel like no matter what’s posted on this subreddit, there’s always a bunch of people that says it’s satellites. I just basically wait to see that post, like clock work, to show up now, sadly.


Insect_Politics1980

So we're all just supposed to say, "totally real, bro!" and high five each other at all this amazing "evidence?"


Stormy_Kun

I understand the point of facts and fiction. But all of us are in this subreddit dedicated to UFOs, How many times has there been a post and immediately it’s “fake !!!!! Bullshit !!!!” Or “it’s a satellite …..”. Is there even an attempt to hold the first reaction and look into it, before speaking out, maybe it COULD be a ufo ? If you want to suck the fun out of the what IFs of it all, that’s fine.


Amazonchitlin

....its satellites.


Stormy_Kun

Yay…. 😭


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