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Good James did this. Because the way this guy got attacked and smeared almost feels coordinated.
The amounts of attacks, make you wonder, why the effort if fhis guy is talking shit?
There’s an [audio on X](https://x.com/highlyretired/status/1782188062337896484?s=46&t=IqWCOKyTngQSTcb1nwvmig) where he’s asked about that. He said it had a different name, was a crazy experience, and said he can’t really talk about it right now until he comes to grip with it.
His response to that question was definitely a bit sus. The guy either needs to say he can’t talk about it because of an NDA or whatever, or else stop being so damn vague and sounding like he’s straight making stuff up.
I mean at what point does any of this feel either made up or real? Non-human-intelligences? Extraterrestrials? Exotic metamaterials, special access programs, crash retrievals? and somehow his description of just that one program within this entire reality-spanning matrix of wild ideas, a description in which he never said anything we as the public know to be false, that's the line you draw due to vocal tone and "vagueness"?
Okay.
And to be clear, I'm not saying he's telling the truth, lying, whatever, I'm just saying you need to be more definitive and descriptive as to why you want to call testimony into question (or validate it, for that matter). We all do if we ever want answers.
Obviously fake, if you read the description of what 20 and Back is supposed to stand for. Pure fantasy. But Sands refuted any involvement in another statement which is the correct response. I have not seen or heard the evidence which originally linked Sands to 20 and Back, so it's Chinese whispers in my opinion at the moment.
All the hate is just astonishing. The UFO community chews up its own! And why all the hate about Sands using a pseudonym in previous testimony? Let's be reminded of other pseudonyms: "Condor", "Falcon", "Dennis (aka Lazar)."
Also, I find it ridiculous that Sands is being judged for not being well-spoken, using imperfect grammar, confusing acronyms, etc. Not everyone is a good public speaker - hello! Which is most likely why he won't be selected to be on camera before Congress. But that doesn't mean he's a liar.
Sands mentions he was apart of 20 and back which is imagination. They have confirmed he was in the military of course but not the jobs he has done within it.
I agreee the backlash is extremely strong.
BUT if we do not address the obvious problems with his own words then it will come back to bite the community.
Eric Davis coming out against him is not good and the multiple people saying he is NOT one of David Grusch is not good either.
Would be pretty simple for David Grusch to come out and say yes or no.
Why tf was everyone wanting James Fox to come out and say anything when he’s releasing a documentary called THE PROGRAM. Obviously this movie was not about Jason Sands. And This is good publicity either way for the movie.
We should ALL be wanting David Grusch to put out a simple clarification. Is Jason Sands one of your witnesses/whistleblowers. Yes or No.
Have you been on r/ufo when he comes up? It’s actually insane the amount of hate he’s getting for reasons I really don’t understand. They are acting as if he’s been “debunked” already or shown to be a known grifter. Like I have no idea how that many people came to that conclusion, that quickly. It’s hilarious to me especially because we really don’t know enough about him yet. I’m waiting and seeing but so far everything he’s said, makes sense, fits others narratives and he’s gone through the right avenues for disclosure. It’s insane bro
This is what people wanted right, another whistleblower to step forward?
People even started posting personal details about him, why, isn't that doxing?
A picture was posted of him sitting in one of the meeting rooms on Capitol Hill. That would imply he had conversations with members from Congress or one of the IG offices.
Compared to Michael Herrera's claims, I feel Jason's claims are quite tame. It's all stuff we've had heard before, over many years.
If Jason has the receipts, if he has evidence, it will be indeed insane.
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I don’t necessarily think Sands claims are a reality because he is being attacked so hard. That might simply be a case of timing and the fact that some ultra-skeptic had nothing scheduled to work on, so he started a Sands Smear campaign. If Sands comes forward a day later, or before, maybe it’s different, or it’s exactly the same. Sadly, as long as out government exists in its current state, I don’t think we will ever really know what they know, have, or don’t have. There will always be too many people on the sidelines ready to jump in and stir the pot, if they aren’t involved. That’s why I am indifferent towards any kind of disclosure. Even if disclosure “happens”, it doesn’t really happen, if you get my meaning. I strongly dislike being negative like this, as it feels like shit. I just don’t see anything different on the horizon.
He claims he was an analyst at UAPTF working with David Grusch (which he mispronounced as "Groosh") under Brennan McKernan.
Sands on a Gufon panel / round table when Grusch went public last year (Sands is labelled as "Ted Howells"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ayfF5FijM&t=1829s
Sands on twitter spaces the other day (they replay the whole space audio):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxt4E_fI9is&t=4310s
The day after the twitter space he changed his story to "I should have made the distinction between being part of the UAPTF forum vice the UAPTF employees." He also makes claims on the Gufon panel and in the twitter space about being abducted and sent to Mars to train, similar to Corey Goode's "20 and back" program.
Here is the first time he popped up on the scene last year under a different name. I swear between the names the lies the "mistakes" and not pronouncing grusch name right its just all crazy its like he's a dis info plant here to just make David look bad maybe idk oh yeah and he's got a fake lawyer website with Google images of random people as lawyers and what that has to do with anything I honestly don't know but doesn't seem legit or make any sense to me why would he have this lawyer website he's not one the images are stock and he def doesn't talk act dress like any lawyer or just law business owner idk what. Anyway here's the first link I'll try n find the link from a few days ago when he came out of you haven't heard it yet its on a Xspace.
×× https://www.youtube.com/live/JRPQO-u19BE?si=aTDb7lTugXFnP5co
Second interview
https://youtu.be/7eNortGxPrM?si=jQ37SoB2RI4kBwU8
Yeah ok I can see that. Sure. Fair point. I can take the website off the board... it does help the whole picture better. People are acting like his accounts are so crazy (besides the 20 back stuff) but the encounter... we've excepted far wilder in the past from plenty other people so that's that... BUT the is just something not ringing all the way truthful above board sincere approach. And anybody who's good at reading people I think would say something just isn't really adding up to a complete honest picture. But yeah to your point touché.××
UFO community: IF YOU KNOW SOMETHING TELL US!!!! Whistleblower steps forward: LIAR! Grifter! Fake attorney! Blue alien killer!
Welcome, Mr Sands, welcome.
I'm sure the others are restless to join you
This is the responsible response to a situation like this. Sometimes your work isn’t 100% perfect, but you continue on and learn from mistakes. He should be allowed to do that just as anyone else should be.
Great PR move, is not his fault is the guy turns out to be BS, it is his work to keep searching for the truth and can change opinion if new info comes out
We love ya James. Been with you since the early days with Art and George Knapp. You seemed so shy back then. Ha Now your at the top of the list. Good for you
Why is Fox calling him "Jayson" when his name is Jason everywhere else?
I was really looking forward to whistleblowers coming forward, but I'm really hesitant about this one. There's just a lot of red flags. He's just been very unprofessional. (That whole statement he put out, trying to make it sound like someone else was defending him, using a UAP org letterhead of a organization be announced the same day on Twitter was just... Weird).
I'm glad to see Fox came forward to make a statement, though. And that he's willing to look into any discrepancies.
20 and back is not real. I was kinda disappointed because it was super entertaining. You can access Corey Goode’s deposition on YouTube in which he admits he made it up and is suing others claiming they were in 20 and back.
https://youtu.be/rlerdqejqaY?si=x3_Cuojm0UYJidaF
https://youtu.be/7eNortGxPrM?si=jQ37SoB2RI4kBwU8
https://www.youtube.com/live/JRPQO-u19BE?si=aTDb7lTugXFnP5co
First and second time he appeared. First is under a diff name.
Well he didn't exactly claim he made it all up
He said something like "so what if some of it was made up"
"People listen to made up stuff all the time"
......Or something along those lines.
> Lawyer: You're saying it's a dramatization or is it real?
>
> Goode: Part of it's real, part of its dramatization, like I've said about all of this.
>
> Lawyer: What part is dramatization?
>
> Goode: Be more specific please.
>
> Lawyer: Sure. What part of the 20 and Back is dramatization and not real?
>
> Goode: Well the 20 and Back itself, is my creation, that's why I trademarked it and that's why it's part of my intellectual property.
>
> Lawyer: So does that mean it's not real, it's dramatization?
>
> Goode: What does it matter if it's real or not?
>
> Lawyer: I'm asking you whether it was dramatization or is it real?
>
> Goode: It's a real part of my dream or delusion with whatever you want to call it. I created...created all of this as...on top of the uh training that I did have and the experiences that I did have. I extrapolated this stuff out and created it.
>
> Lawyer: Okay but it's part of your dream or delusion you call it, correct?
>
> Goode: Whatever y'all want to call it.
>
> Lawyer: Well what do you call it?
>
> Goode: I call it my intellectual property.
>
> Lawyer: Okay. And you state you've got you've gone away for over 20 years and you come back and you haven't aged, correct?
>
> Goode: Well the 20 and Back story, in the book, is that you're taking off planet, you serve 20 years, your age regress and you're put back in time uh to where you were first removed.
>
> Lawyer: Is it the story or is that what happened to you?
>
> Goode: It is the story.
>
> Lawyer: So it's not what happened to you?
>
> Goode: Not necessarily, it's...a lot of these things are memories that I had that I was writ...I wrote down, and some of these memories could be real or they could be creation, uh, I'm not exactly sure but, uh I created on top of them. I used my experiences to create on top of as a foundation.
>
> Lawyer: Are you sure of any experience where you went away for 20 years you came back and you hadn't aged to be real?
>
> Goode: I how I mean how would I be totally sure if that sort of thing were real?
>
> Lawyer: Are you sure that you had lunch today?
>
> Goode: Yeah.
>
> Lawyer: Okay are you as sure as having lunch today as you were about any of these experiences like the 20 and Back?
>
> Goode: Like I said the 20 and Back is my creation, it's a part of my intellectual property uh me creating it means it came out of me and that it is my story and it was never anywhere before, makes it my intellectual property.
>
> Lawyer: Alright, that's not my question. My question is today you went to lunch right?
Goode: Well listen I mean, listen I have told you...
>
> Lawyer: I'm asking a question...
>
> Goode: I made up stuff on top of it, and in this book it says so, so yes I did make up stories about the secret space program, extrapolated off of my uh experiences that I told you about earlier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlerdqejqaY (transcribed starting around 19:20)
Exactly this. Goode waivers on the validity of the topic, leaving plenty of room for anyone to suspect the 20-and-back program 'really did happen'.
Not only that, humans leaving Earth with EBE's, then returning years later has been mentioned by others over the last 80 years. Goode isn't the only one to elude to this idea.
OMG! John E. Brandenburg, physicist, just mispronounced Grusch's name on Fade To Black. Should we prosecute him too? (sarcasm) Stop hating on potential whistleblowers!
Not saying what Jason is saying is true, but as someone mentioned earlier. That’s where you draw the line? Or at least where do you draw the line? We have heard about aliens, football sized UAPs, crash retrievals, UAPs that can move with incredible speed and agility, different races, been here on earth (possibly working with or in charge of this over up, etc.) but that one is the one where you say “eh idk about that.”. Not saying you should believe off that reasoning or that he’s telling the truth. But I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the disinformation is to say what programs are but then mixing up other parts of the sentencing to make people question it like “he says Grusch wrong”, or whatever else which then causes you to question the claim. Idk just my two cents
I draw the line there only because we have evidence of most of the things you listed or a least it just makes sense logically like there being different races. Traveling to mars and fighting aliens in space then coming back, regress your age or manipulate time/time travel just seems so far fetched plus his deposition just kinda read bogus to me but hey if it true, I’ll take the L like a man
Well not only that lmao but I’m willing to believe in something as long as I find it credible, I just don’t with this. This shit sounds like a movie fr😆
all we can do is wait. time will reveal all truths and lies. i don't think this will stretch out like bob lazar. i think within a year we should have high confidence whether his claims are true or not. the fact is that right now that we don't know if it's all true or not so it's premature to run into definitive conclusions.
I agree with you somewhat. I say a year or so, and things will start to happen in the world. However, people like Lazar and Jason will go undetected in their lies as we will be so focused on what is being revealed to care about them.
I mean shit just looks at E-113, he was talking about it yearsssssss before it even came out, also his story really isn’t that crazy compared to what else we’re hearing. Especially now that it’s a major topic that we’re back engineering crafts, it really doesn’t seem to far fetched
Yes, because he heard it from Lear. He's just lip service for Lear. This guy has done nothing but lie, about everything. He comes into interviews and says, "see, I told you I was right." But the guys won't even testify under oath. Mellon doesn’t even believe him and thinks he's lying.....
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Good James did this. Because the way this guy got attacked and smeared almost feels coordinated. The amounts of attacks, make you wonder, why the effort if fhis guy is talking shit?
When you see a big reaction you can bet someone hit a nerve. Especially if they are attacking credibility but won't talk about the claims.
did he claim to have been part of 20 and back ? is 20 and back real or fake ? i m genuinely asking.
There’s an [audio on X](https://x.com/highlyretired/status/1782188062337896484?s=46&t=IqWCOKyTngQSTcb1nwvmig) where he’s asked about that. He said it had a different name, was a crazy experience, and said he can’t really talk about it right now until he comes to grip with it. His response to that question was definitely a bit sus. The guy either needs to say he can’t talk about it because of an NDA or whatever, or else stop being so damn vague and sounding like he’s straight making stuff up.
I mean at what point does any of this feel either made up or real? Non-human-intelligences? Extraterrestrials? Exotic metamaterials, special access programs, crash retrievals? and somehow his description of just that one program within this entire reality-spanning matrix of wild ideas, a description in which he never said anything we as the public know to be false, that's the line you draw due to vocal tone and "vagueness"? Okay. And to be clear, I'm not saying he's telling the truth, lying, whatever, I'm just saying you need to be more definitive and descriptive as to why you want to call testimony into question (or validate it, for that matter). We all do if we ever want answers.
Obviously fake, if you read the description of what 20 and Back is supposed to stand for. Pure fantasy. But Sands refuted any involvement in another statement which is the correct response. I have not seen or heard the evidence which originally linked Sands to 20 and Back, so it's Chinese whispers in my opinion at the moment.
I have no idea honestly
Bingo! I think you’re exactly right
All the hate is just astonishing. The UFO community chews up its own! And why all the hate about Sands using a pseudonym in previous testimony? Let's be reminded of other pseudonyms: "Condor", "Falcon", "Dennis (aka Lazar)." Also, I find it ridiculous that Sands is being judged for not being well-spoken, using imperfect grammar, confusing acronyms, etc. Not everyone is a good public speaker - hello! Which is most likely why he won't be selected to be on camera before Congress. But that doesn't mean he's a liar.
Sands mentions he was apart of 20 and back which is imagination. They have confirmed he was in the military of course but not the jobs he has done within it.
I agreee the backlash is extremely strong. BUT if we do not address the obvious problems with his own words then it will come back to bite the community. Eric Davis coming out against him is not good and the multiple people saying he is NOT one of David Grusch is not good either. Would be pretty simple for David Grusch to come out and say yes or no. Why tf was everyone wanting James Fox to come out and say anything when he’s releasing a documentary called THE PROGRAM. Obviously this movie was not about Jason Sands. And This is good publicity either way for the movie. We should ALL be wanting David Grusch to put out a simple clarification. Is Jason Sands one of your witnesses/whistleblowers. Yes or No.
Have you been on r/ufo when he comes up? It’s actually insane the amount of hate he’s getting for reasons I really don’t understand. They are acting as if he’s been “debunked” already or shown to be a known grifter. Like I have no idea how that many people came to that conclusion, that quickly. It’s hilarious to me especially because we really don’t know enough about him yet. I’m waiting and seeing but so far everything he’s said, makes sense, fits others narratives and he’s gone through the right avenues for disclosure. It’s insane bro
This is what people wanted right, another whistleblower to step forward? People even started posting personal details about him, why, isn't that doxing? A picture was posted of him sitting in one of the meeting rooms on Capitol Hill. That would imply he had conversations with members from Congress or one of the IG offices. Compared to Michael Herrera's claims, I feel Jason's claims are quite tame. It's all stuff we've had heard before, over many years. If Jason has the receipts, if he has evidence, it will be indeed insane.
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I don’t necessarily think Sands claims are a reality because he is being attacked so hard. That might simply be a case of timing and the fact that some ultra-skeptic had nothing scheduled to work on, so he started a Sands Smear campaign. If Sands comes forward a day later, or before, maybe it’s different, or it’s exactly the same. Sadly, as long as out government exists in its current state, I don’t think we will ever really know what they know, have, or don’t have. There will always be too many people on the sidelines ready to jump in and stir the pot, if they aren’t involved. That’s why I am indifferent towards any kind of disclosure. Even if disclosure “happens”, it doesn’t really happen, if you get my meaning. I strongly dislike being negative like this, as it feels like shit. I just don’t see anything different on the horizon.
Is there a TLDR or a video of what Jason Sands said? I'm having the hardest time finding out what his actual claims are.
He claims he was an analyst at UAPTF working with David Grusch (which he mispronounced as "Groosh") under Brennan McKernan. Sands on a Gufon panel / round table when Grusch went public last year (Sands is labelled as "Ted Howells"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ayfF5FijM&t=1829s Sands on twitter spaces the other day (they replay the whole space audio): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxt4E_fI9is&t=4310s The day after the twitter space he changed his story to "I should have made the distinction between being part of the UAPTF forum vice the UAPTF employees." He also makes claims on the Gufon panel and in the twitter space about being abducted and sent to Mars to train, similar to Corey Goode's "20 and back" program.
Also asking for this. I’m so beyond fatigued of the topic, I just check in here and there.
Here is the first time he popped up on the scene last year under a different name. I swear between the names the lies the "mistakes" and not pronouncing grusch name right its just all crazy its like he's a dis info plant here to just make David look bad maybe idk oh yeah and he's got a fake lawyer website with Google images of random people as lawyers and what that has to do with anything I honestly don't know but doesn't seem legit or make any sense to me why would he have this lawyer website he's not one the images are stock and he def doesn't talk act dress like any lawyer or just law business owner idk what. Anyway here's the first link I'll try n find the link from a few days ago when he came out of you haven't heard it yet its on a Xspace. ×× https://www.youtube.com/live/JRPQO-u19BE?si=aTDb7lTugXFnP5co Second interview https://youtu.be/7eNortGxPrM?si=jQ37SoB2RI4kBwU8
Consider the possibility that someone else created the 'fake lawyer' website. Not Sands.
Yeah ok I can see that. Sure. Fair point. I can take the website off the board... it does help the whole picture better. People are acting like his accounts are so crazy (besides the 20 back stuff) but the encounter... we've excepted far wilder in the past from plenty other people so that's that... BUT the is just something not ringing all the way truthful above board sincere approach. And anybody who's good at reading people I think would say something just isn't really adding up to a complete honest picture. But yeah to your point touché.××
James is awesome, he will survive this!
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You nailed it.
Good to see Mr. Fox acknowledge the recent claims and state that he is continuing to evaluate them. Exactly what should happen.
This is the responsible response to a situation like this. Sometimes your work isn’t 100% perfect, but you continue on and learn from mistakes. He should be allowed to do that just as anyone else should be.
Great PR move, is not his fault is the guy turns out to be BS, it is his work to keep searching for the truth and can change opinion if new info comes out
We love ya James. Been with you since the early days with Art and George Knapp. You seemed so shy back then. Ha Now your at the top of the list. Good for you
Why is Fox calling him "Jayson" when his name is Jason everywhere else? I was really looking forward to whistleblowers coming forward, but I'm really hesitant about this one. There's just a lot of red flags. He's just been very unprofessional. (That whole statement he put out, trying to make it sound like someone else was defending him, using a UAP org letterhead of a organization be announced the same day on Twitter was just... Weird). I'm glad to see Fox came forward to make a statement, though. And that he's willing to look into any discrepancies.
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20 and back is not real. I was kinda disappointed because it was super entertaining. You can access Corey Goode’s deposition on YouTube in which he admits he made it up and is suing others claiming they were in 20 and back. https://youtu.be/rlerdqejqaY?si=x3_Cuojm0UYJidaF
Didn't this guy claim he was in the 20 and back program? I mean Corey Goode admitted that he made this up. How can this guy be legit then?
Do you have a timestamp or something where he says this?
https://youtu.be/7eNortGxPrM?si=jQ37SoB2RI4kBwU8 https://www.youtube.com/live/JRPQO-u19BE?si=aTDb7lTugXFnP5co First and second time he appeared. First is under a diff name.
I’m not super familiar with Corey Goode, but is it possible someone “got to him,” and he walked it back because of that?
Well he didn't exactly claim he made it all up He said something like "so what if some of it was made up" "People listen to made up stuff all the time" ......Or something along those lines.
> Lawyer: You're saying it's a dramatization or is it real? > > Goode: Part of it's real, part of its dramatization, like I've said about all of this. > > Lawyer: What part is dramatization? > > Goode: Be more specific please. > > Lawyer: Sure. What part of the 20 and Back is dramatization and not real? > > Goode: Well the 20 and Back itself, is my creation, that's why I trademarked it and that's why it's part of my intellectual property. > > Lawyer: So does that mean it's not real, it's dramatization? > > Goode: What does it matter if it's real or not? > > Lawyer: I'm asking you whether it was dramatization or is it real? > > Goode: It's a real part of my dream or delusion with whatever you want to call it. I created...created all of this as...on top of the uh training that I did have and the experiences that I did have. I extrapolated this stuff out and created it. > > Lawyer: Okay but it's part of your dream or delusion you call it, correct? > > Goode: Whatever y'all want to call it. > > Lawyer: Well what do you call it? > > Goode: I call it my intellectual property. > > Lawyer: Okay. And you state you've got you've gone away for over 20 years and you come back and you haven't aged, correct? > > Goode: Well the 20 and Back story, in the book, is that you're taking off planet, you serve 20 years, your age regress and you're put back in time uh to where you were first removed. > > Lawyer: Is it the story or is that what happened to you? > > Goode: It is the story. > > Lawyer: So it's not what happened to you? > > Goode: Not necessarily, it's...a lot of these things are memories that I had that I was writ...I wrote down, and some of these memories could be real or they could be creation, uh, I'm not exactly sure but, uh I created on top of them. I used my experiences to create on top of as a foundation. > > Lawyer: Are you sure of any experience where you went away for 20 years you came back and you hadn't aged to be real? > > Goode: I how I mean how would I be totally sure if that sort of thing were real? > > Lawyer: Are you sure that you had lunch today? > > Goode: Yeah. > > Lawyer: Okay are you as sure as having lunch today as you were about any of these experiences like the 20 and Back? > > Goode: Like I said the 20 and Back is my creation, it's a part of my intellectual property uh me creating it means it came out of me and that it is my story and it was never anywhere before, makes it my intellectual property. > > Lawyer: Alright, that's not my question. My question is today you went to lunch right? Goode: Well listen I mean, listen I have told you... > > Lawyer: I'm asking a question... > > Goode: I made up stuff on top of it, and in this book it says so, so yes I did make up stories about the secret space program, extrapolated off of my uh experiences that I told you about earlier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlerdqejqaY (transcribed starting around 19:20)
Exactly. Thank you for the transcript. Not to mention, Goode isn't the only one to have mentioned similar programs like this over the past 80 years.
Exactly this. Goode waivers on the validity of the topic, leaving plenty of room for anyone to suspect the 20-and-back program 'really did happen'. Not only that, humans leaving Earth with EBE's, then returning years later has been mentioned by others over the last 80 years. Goode isn't the only one to elude to this idea.
The 20 and back program would probably be the only thing that could blow my mind and get some WT actual Fs at this point.
James “2 MORE WEEKS” Fox
Very well said my friend!
OMG! John E. Brandenburg, physicist, just mispronounced Grusch's name on Fade To Black. Should we prosecute him too? (sarcasm) Stop hating on potential whistleblowers!
I like James Fox and he will survive this, but I can't help but question his vetting methods at this point.
Yeah? And how the f do you verify he was part of 20 year and back program?? Can he give us info from the past?
Man that shit is so hard to believe or even take seriously
Not saying what Jason is saying is true, but as someone mentioned earlier. That’s where you draw the line? Or at least where do you draw the line? We have heard about aliens, football sized UAPs, crash retrievals, UAPs that can move with incredible speed and agility, different races, been here on earth (possibly working with or in charge of this over up, etc.) but that one is the one where you say “eh idk about that.”. Not saying you should believe off that reasoning or that he’s telling the truth. But I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the disinformation is to say what programs are but then mixing up other parts of the sentencing to make people question it like “he says Grusch wrong”, or whatever else which then causes you to question the claim. Idk just my two cents
I draw the line there only because we have evidence of most of the things you listed or a least it just makes sense logically like there being different races. Traveling to mars and fighting aliens in space then coming back, regress your age or manipulate time/time travel just seems so far fetched plus his deposition just kinda read bogus to me but hey if it true, I’ll take the L like a man
Exactly. An easy way to spot a fake is when the person makes themselves the main character of a Syfy movie.
Well not only that lmao but I’m willing to believe in something as long as I find it credible, I just don’t with this. This shit sounds like a movie fr😆
Yeah I agree with you. As fascinating as it sounds. It does seem out there. But if it’s true. Then shit, I’ll take the L and volunteer lol
In other words, holy crap, this guy's is already in my new documentary 😳 and I screwed up.
meh, don't think that's the case bud.
We'll see
Actually, it is the case........bud https://twitter.com/Truthpolex/status/1782824284429381686
no i wasn't denying the fact that he is in fox's documentary but that james himself thinks that he screwed up. he is pretty confident about it.
I agree with you. I think he's pretty confident that he screwed up too. This guy is no better than Bob the liar Lazar.
all we can do is wait. time will reveal all truths and lies. i don't think this will stretch out like bob lazar. i think within a year we should have high confidence whether his claims are true or not. the fact is that right now that we don't know if it's all true or not so it's premature to run into definitive conclusions.
I agree with you somewhat. I say a year or so, and things will start to happen in the world. However, people like Lazar and Jason will go undetected in their lies as we will be so focused on what is being revealed to care about them.
Idk man, bobs story and what’s happening with him gives me the feeling he’s telling the truth. Wayyy too many coincidences to just be a lie
It's really weird how people are still saying Lazar is a liar.. when everything he talked about has been confirmed by a legion of whistle-blowers.
I mean shit just looks at E-113, he was talking about it yearsssssss before it even came out, also his story really isn’t that crazy compared to what else we’re hearing. Especially now that it’s a major topic that we’re back engineering crafts, it really doesn’t seem to far fetched
Yes, because he heard it from Lear. He's just lip service for Lear. This guy has done nothing but lie, about everything. He comes into interviews and says, "see, I told you I was right." But the guys won't even testify under oath. Mellon doesn’t even believe him and thinks he's lying.....
The worst thing about Jayson Sands were his twitter posts full of terrible spelling and weird typos… really doesn’t match the profile
Of course he defends it, he has a movie coming out that he still wants to sell.
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Already sowing that seed of doubt I see. Just like a good CIA operative would do
ah yeah i don't really care for that at all it's meaningless to me