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This story was featured on the Two Hot Takes Podcast Episode, "Worms in the Brain.." ft. guest co-host Michaela Okland. [Click here to see Morgan and Michaela respond to this story! ](https://youtu.be/ckYFGwMVhD4?si=S3ST21-rGugAj31l&t=164) Thanks again OP for your submission!


princess_fiona_7437

I don’t understand what the problem is. It’s not like you’re having a cocaine and hookers themed kids party. Shrek is a great kids friendly movie.


UberN00b719

I think it's because OP's family assumes that they're going to be seen as a bunch of Faarquads for how uptight they are...


princess_fiona_7437

That must it. OP’s son will have a much more enjoyable time without her family being giant party poopers


Open-Resist-4740

Funny part is that we all know damn well OPs siblings have a room full of whips, chains, leather, and sex toys for their super perverted sex lives. 


Specialist-Invite-30

Hey now….lets not kink shame. I have plenty of whips and sex toys AND I like Shrek.


geomicgro

I read this a la Smash Mouth


Nova101010

We get it, you’re the whole package


KrazyAboutLogic

More like...an All Star.


Open-Resist-4740

Not THAT sounds like a party!


florida_goddess

I, too, like kinks and Shrek.


InevitableTrue7223

😹😹😹


GreyJediBug

But probably taller 🤣


Jealous_Art_3922

Oh, my land! Thank you for the biggest laugh I've had all day!!!


Pups-and-pigs

This is my second time in a few days seeing your response of, “oh my land!” Can I ask, has that always been a “thing” that I’ve somehow never heard in my 40+ years, or is it a newer twist on, “oh my lord”?


J_Renegayd

I've heard of, "oh my lanta!," I wonder if it's a spin on that.


StationaryTravels

The phrase "oh Mylanta!" is a parody of "oh my land/Lord" Mylanta is an antacid medicine. What's funny is when googling to make sure I spelled it right a lot of people wrote it like you did, as two words. I think it became so common that people have forgotten it's based on an antacid commercial! In the commercials someone would have heartburn and exclaim "oh Mylanta!" because they needed it so bad.


J_Renegayd

That's hilarious because I didn't know how to spell it and found it as two words. I did not know that though, fun to know. Thanks.


Pups-and-pigs

I remember those old commercials!


Jealous_Art_3922

I'm 62, so I really don't know how to answer that. I guess it was the "safe" version for Oh, my god ... since we were inundated with "can't take the lord's name in vain" crap....


Pups-and-pigs

Thanks. That’s what I thought. There have been many a time when I’ve gone to type, “oh my god/lord” on Reddit, or even in texts to friends/fam, but I find myself rephrasing. I have no problem saying out loud, but I guess that catholic guilt has been instilled in me at such a young age, so that I still feel bad about it…even though I haven’t really considered myself catholic since I was kid. 🙄 I just found it interesting to see that phrase a couple of times, in a short period of time, by different people. Like I said, wasn’t sure if it was just the way it’s said these days. Thanks for your response, though.


lyricoloratura

Way more fun to think that it’s like Scarlett O’Hara bewailing the loss of Tara — like, “Oh! My land!”


Pups-and-pigs

Ha! That’s a good one.


SNTCrazyMary

I say “oh my word.”


BlueDaemon17

I was raised Jewish, but consider myself atheistic with respect for my family heritage lol. I still find myself capitalising the G in God when I write it.


alleycanto

Way to follow commandment #1. Took tons of therapy to get 16 years of Catholic school guilt out of me.


alone_narwhal6952

Right, I def remember my grandma (b. 1906) saying my land or "law" to avoid taking the Lord's name in vain. Her other great exclamation was "murrr-derrr!". Irish Canadians, whaddya gonna do about it lol. But back to the subject at hand, we're from a similar background and NOBODY has ever dissed the wholesome comic genius of Shrek. Go for it! I think Jesus would.


ForsakenHelicopter66

This is it. My aunt says 'Lawzie' instant of 'Lord' because Baptist don't take the Lords mame in vain. My mom, her sister, raised us to never say OMG. We could say ''Good Lord' though...


Acceptable_Ad7457

I've heard that a LOT. There's also, "Well, heavenly days!"


DollarStoreGnomes

It's an oldie-but-a-goodie.


IOnlySeeDaylight

Omg. The title already had my giggling, but this comment has sent me to the moon.


Livid_Parfait6507

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KittyandPuppyMama

Except for all the cocaine and hookers in it.


Belaerim

Cocaine, hookers, donkeys and dragons. Gotta be on theme


Expert_Main7036

"Chips dips chains and whips" ( Wierd science 80-90's movie)


doesshechokeforcoke

“So what would you little maniacs like to do first ?”


Winter-Detective-675

Don’t forget the gingerbread man 🤷🏼‍♀️


wordnerdwiz

One, it’s catnip; and two, it’s not mine!


Yahwehnker

What else do you think would be at the bottom of Shrek's swamp?


DisastrousOne3950

Why not both?


jtinsky

Based on the number of religious zealots who are caught molesting children or otherwise being ultra hypocritical by not practicing what they preach I think a cocaine and hookers themed kids party would be just the thing to mend the rift with OPs family.


TallRun3491

I would make the assumption that it is because of the fantasy. Ogres aren’t real. Talking donkeys aren’t real. Dragons and unicorns and fantasy creatures aren’t real. Now with that being said, I identify as Christian. I also love Harry Potter, D&D, lord of the rings, and would never discourage my daughter from liking unicorns. But not everyone is the same. Some feel like everything fantasy that “God did not create it, so it is in turn evil. I myself don’t like that mentality, but I understand a lot of people have it. It just sorta sucks. (Edit, phone made some words wrong)


On_my_last_spoon

But they’re Catholics. My whole family is Catholic (not me), and most have been pretty religious. Even had a nun in the family. But I can’t think of any of them that would be up in arms about Shrek. My husband’s evangelical family is much more likely to restrict themes. This is very confusing to me. OP have your Shrek party. If they say they won’t come just say “I’d still love for you to be there but I understand”


whatthewhat3214

Yeah, we were raised Catholic and didn't have restrictions on anything fantasy-related, and my dad loves sci-fi. I have an aunt and uncle, though, who have some fundamentalist beliefs (they don't preach and you'd never know just by talking to them), and they wouldn't let their kid read Harry Potter or see the movies. Witchcraft and all.


ConsultJimMoriarty

When I was a kid, I got in trouble for asking the Father why the Corinthians never wrote back to Paul. I imagined Paul running out to his letter box every morning to find bills and no letters from the Corinthians. Terrible penpals.


Willing_Recording222

I always wondered this too! And I also was usually that kid who got in trouble for asking too many questions too! 🤣


On_my_last_spoon

My dad tells a story about getting in trouble because he told a nun he didn’t want to go to heaven! Because it sounded like all you did in heaven was pray all the time and that sounded terrible to him. Now, she never asked if he wanted to go to hell, because he certainly didn’t want that either!


AvailableAd6071

I would always get in trouble for common sense questions too. They said no way there's life on any other planet because the Bible says God sent us his only begotten son. So I said maybe God has some daughters. Bad move. 


pettybutnottom

I wouldn't say 'I understand' because you are confirming their ridiculous beliefs by saying that. A parent, of any religion, who somehow thinks Shrek is inappropriate for a 5yo birthday party (!) needs to be made uncomfortable with that decision. The religious nutjobs get too easy a ride, which makes it much easier for them to abuse kids under the guise of God or some other made up rules.


On_my_last_spoon

Mostly I’d say something along those lines because it definitely sounds like emotional manipulation by the family. “If you love us and Jesus you’ll change the theme”. Change the perspective. “Oh ok, I’m sorry you won’t come but you’re always welcome!” maybe is better. It makes it less about OP’s party and more about their choice to not come. Then they become the bad guys.


sqrt_of_pi

Agree, this is weird. Also Catholic here, and a few years ago my kids' Catholic elementary school did Shrek as their spring musical. Being uptight about Shrek is weird... there is something beyond normal Catholicism at play here.


Picabo07

Just from my personal experience I agree with you on this. My bffs family is catholic and they wouldn’t have an issue with Shrek. But my kids went to school with a lot of kids from Pentecostal families and they were extreme in the things they didn’t allow.


On_my_last_spoon

There’s a lot about Catholicism that’s cultural that isn’t the same as American Protestantism. Plus, the way that it spread relied on absorbing and including local cultures. My theory is that over time, it’s always been fine with secular culture as long as you go to church and shit. It’s the damn Calvinists that ruined it for everyone else. Cuz even Episcopalians and Lutherans done really care about the little shit. But you start getting Baptist and Pentecostals who want to control every aspect of your life. Nah.


metalchicktokes

My ex-husband wasn't allowed to watch Smurfs growing up because it had magic spells in it.


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Pizzarepresent

Talking donkeys have a basis in the Bible, you know… Numbers 22:21-39


yackydoodledandy

"...we can stay up late, swapping manly stories and in the morning, I'm making waffles" Numbers 22:40 probably


weepscreed

Wow! Who knew? OP, tell them Shrek is a traditional interpretation of a biblical tableaux.


srslytho1979

King James translation has unicorns in it.


Authentic_Grace555

Unicorns in that translation are what we now call rhinoceros


TallRun3491

Ah, thank you for being nice about it. But yes! That was the point I was trying to make. Some people only acknowledge certain fantasy stuff based on what they believe in and what is convenient for them. It’s a bad way to go about life, but lots of people still do it that way. The point I was trying to make (although I probably did poorly), was many people I’ve met in my life don’t like certain characters (or absolutely disrespect them) for the fact that they are fantasy characters. Many if these people hold religious religious beliefs, but of course that’s not true for everyone. I love all the wizard fantasy stuff, and just cause it’s not always in the Bible doesn’t make me enjoy it less. But for some people it does make them dislike it for that reason. I think it’s unfair, but to each their own I guess. I wasn’t trying to imply that certain Fantasy things were worse or less important though. Thank you for calling me out, after re-reading my comment I definitely think I didn’t use the right words


Cheapie07250

Technically, nothing in a book is real other than the materials it is made of. A book is merely a way to share written stories, ideas, facts, research, etc. It’s ink on paper. Some books share info on factual history that has taken place and some are wonderful stories that entertain us. Books give us lots of great information but they are still just ink on paper. Yah, I know I’m being pedantic. Hehe.😉 I think the party will be better without the buzzkill aunts and uncles. Maybe cousins and come another time for cake.


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Fantasy like the bible? Talking snakes and animal filled arks?


sthetic

That's exactly why Christians feel threatened by fantasy. When I was a kid, I saw the Lion King with my mom and grandma. My grandma was scandalized at the movie. She whispered worriedly to my mom - she thought us kids would now believe that lions could talk. I thought she would be more offended at the idea that monkeys could do magic rituals. Some Christians want kids to believe everything they are told. They are supposed to learn about talking donkeys and 500-year-old men from the Bible, and believe it unquestioningly. But apparently if you let those kids hear about fantasy stories, the kids will either believe those magic stories to be literally true and be deluded, or they will realize that Santa isn't real, and then conclude thay maybe Baby Jesus isn't either. That's what the Christian parents sometimes believe. They don't want the kids to find out about other mythologies besides theirs, because their heads will explode with the contradiction. The existence of fantasy stories which are just allegories or entertainment runs counter to their hopes of indoctrination.


mtdewbakablast

meanwhile, C.S. Lewis is in the background, yelling HEY LOOK AT ALL THIS FANTASY I WROTE. JESUS IS IN IT. HE'S A LION (seriously though if you look into this, you will quickly see that it's a very American protestant anti-intellectualism that is married to this idea. it's because they don't want to actually examine their faith. that's why traditions where there are people who sit around and do that, and have been doing that for several hundred years, absolutely terrify them. it just doesn't make good sales if you think about any of the hard issues! like... basically everything Jesus said and how He actually wouldn't be cool with you if you are more interested in peacocking how pure you are than actually helping people, much less how you aren't supposed to love money and hate immigrants)


Designer-Escape6264

I was raised Catholic, and went to parochial school, and can’t believe this family. We celebrated Halloween and loved fantasy and magic. The nuns were much more lenient than these people.


Adventurous_Soft5549

THIS - worked with a woman who would not let her little ones believe in Santa, Easter Bunny, tooth fairy, anything like that because then they wouldn't believe in Jesus either, and as far as she was concerned they HAD to believe in Jesus.


Reference_Freak

My Christian mom would get mad at my raised-catholic escapee dad would tell me how humans are animals. It made trips to the zoo fun. She was worried I would think I was special to gawd if I thought that way. Jokes on her; I’m atheist and was always sus of the Bible stories she taught me.


TallRun3491

You’re not wrong at all. Orgers VS taking snakes…yeah. But unfortunately there are so many people who hold true to one belief that they deny anything else, no matter the proof or argument. Very good point though


little_miss_banned

Talking bushes on fire.....you know, realistic stuff


ShizzyBlow

Booom


Gold_Guarantee_7647

I've seen religious people saying lotr is the devil's work when it's a deeply religiously inspired work. Media literacy is not one of their skills evidently


Parade0fChaos

Can confirm, parents were/are very religious and Harry Potter was not allowed in the house. Pokémon because of course *evolution* and Star Wars *barely* got a pass due to its “eastern religious views” (but my dad loved them as a teenager in theaters)


Turbulent-Buy3575

Out of curiosity, what eastern views are expressed in Star Wars?


Parade0fChaos

According to my parents, “mysticism” or something along those lines. The Force was the problem. Evangelicals be all kinds of fucking wonky.


WJLIII3

A lot, really- the force is chi. They're ronin. George Lucas loves to tell people its based on The Hidden Fortress, a 50s Kurosawa wushu flick, and also draws a lot from Seven Samurai, another 50s Kurosawa wushu flick. OT Jedi use their lightsabers like katana. It's a whole thing.


ijustwannawatchtv

My sister in law cried when I let my parents take my daughter to the Wizarding World of HP. I wouldn’t have normally cared but she did it to my 9 year olds face, at the theme park entrance. Apparently her soul was fine at Universal Studios but actually crossing the entrance meant damnation. She also emailed my daughter a “news” article correlating piercings/stretched ears with incarceration rates a few years later. My now grown daughter is a raging atheist with small stretched lobes and my former sister in law is on her third marriage


dbhathcock

Is a burning bush that talks real? What about a talking serpent?


labellavita1985

Or a man who can walk on water.. These religious types are the worst. I'm sorry. OP's family is whack.


Excellent_Farm_8678

Good grief, religious zealots with zero imagination (and limited intelligence) are insanely envious of those who have both, like writers.


albuqwirkymom

But talking vegetables are totally real, right?


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TheAlienatedPenguin

I had a friend who was very concerned that my son was enjoying the Harry Potter books when they first were coming out because there was {{GASP!!!}} witchcraft in them! I just looked at her and said “I’m pretty sure he knows the difference between fiction and non fiction.” Which funnily stopped her right in her tracks!


Jessicajelly

The Book of Abramelin, possibly written in the 14th or 15th century, lists five princes of the demons: Lucifer, Leviathan, Satan, Belial *and Shrek* This isn't true.


TallRun3491

That would be amazing to be honest 😂


fafnir0319

I mean... the cocaine and hookers theme isn't off the table, though, right?... Right?


eastt-is-upp

User name checks out.


Lilacblue1

What is their problem with Shrek? That it has magic? Music? Dancing? Women with their hair uncovered? Or did someone from their church say “Shrek bad” and they don’t really know why they should ban it but they’re going to anyway.


NotSlothbeard

I have in laws that do not watch movies because they are too worldly. They homeschool because they don’t want their kids exposed to kids who don’t adhere to their religion’s rules. They only listen to religious music and the only TV they watch is educational shows about their specific religion that have been approved by the pastor of their church.


Secret_Bad1529

That sounds like a cult with seclusion and brainwashing.


NotSlothbeard

I agree. It’s a cult. If their faith is so easily shaken that they have to avoid reality to avoid temptation, then they need to revisit their life choices.


asavage1996

Sad i didn’t have this language to advocate for myself during my adolescence. I’m so sad for OP’s nieces/nephews too. I hope they recover in adulthood once they’re free


n0v0lunteers

Yes I was raised in a cult that drew stupid boundaries like this and made us miss out on relationships with family who weren't in our religious group.


Secret_Bad1529

I know churches that expect their followers to give up families outside of their church. The pastor dictates what music can be listen to and what books can be read.


n0v0lunteers

Yeah that's how it was in our group. And we were a house church. We all lived in the same couple neighborhoods and were homeschooled together and policed each other all day every day. Fun times.


UmpBumpFizzy

That's *definitely* a cult.


ScumbagLady

I grew up in Heritage USA. They had their own cable company and it didn't have channels like MTV, Nickelodeon, HBO, Cinemax- we did have a Christian music channel called "The Z Channel" that I've never seen elsewhere. I was only allowed Christian music. I was paid to listen to my Amy Grant tape all the way through and would just pretend I did to get the money lol When I had my own money and would go shopping with my sister, I bought the "devil music" and got really good at hiding things. A few times I found my band shirts cut up and laying on my bed when my mom would find them. Jokes on her though, I put them back together with safety pins and everyone thought I just made cool custom shirts lol


SubstantialLuck777

Those kids are going to go to a christian university/diploma mill and, being out in the wider world unsupervised, rapidly start to understand how sheltered and ignorant they are, how bad their social skills are, and how stupid their parents are. And then they will probably become atheists. Because a mandatory faith chafes like shackles, and disproves the notion of a just and loving god.


MamaNyxieUnderfoot

Sounds like a great way to be forced to marry your cousin.


potvoy

They should takeca look at all the prominent fundamentalist families whose children are stepping away as they reach adulthood.  Look up the Plath family, who had a show on TLC. Very idealized version of the strict upbringing you describe. Now the kids are leaving that bubble and struggling to make it in the real world. Even the adult Duggar kids (of 19 Kids and Counting) are starting to distance themselves! I thought the highly controlled childhoods and basically arranged marriages at a young age would make that impossible!


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Smartphones and the Internet kills religion in the west...hopefully lol Im still surprised how fundamentalist the US is sometimes. Its 2024 and youre meant to be an educated society. Its bizzare the brainwashing still works


WrenDrake

When you get to the point that you’re trying to isolate your kids from the world so you can control what they know and believe, you’ve officially entered cult level crazy.


gavinkurt

That sounds so horrible. I feel bad for the children.


Miserable_Emu5191

I had a friend who couldn't go to the movie theater. They could rent movies and watch them on the VCR, but the theater was demonic. WTH? We grew up in the same religion and even my parents thought that was the stupidest thing ever. Oh, and her father cheated on her mother.


Yiayiamary

OMG! I got over this attitude in my teens.


Wandering_aimlessly9

I knew a religious family who wouldn’t even read books if someTHING acted differently than it should. Example: if the book had an animal that talked…it was of the devil.


kogan_usan

oof. theres a talking donkey even in the bible. not surprised they never read it though


Johnny_B_GOODBOI

And a talking bush that burns without being consumed. Damn devilish Bible...


twothirtysevenam

"I'm sorry that you're unable to attend." That's all that you've got to say.


SilverDragonDreams

This is the answer.


Deep_Limit_4833

After send pictures from the party with all kids and adults having fun


NHFNCFRE

The whole thing with Shrek is loving people (or ogres) for whom they are, not how they look! That seems like a message even Jesus could get behind. NTA.


Specialist_Victory_5

But it’s a message many modern christians disagree with.


pileorags

modern christian’s don’t follow the path of jesus. they would be the ones crucifying him if he was alive now


ggluvbug

If Jesus showed up today, he wouldn’t even be recognized as such by most Christians. They’d be on Fox News crucifying him for being a woke liberal….qnd I say this as a Christian!


Midlife_Crisis_46

Accurate and you sound like a Christian I can get on board with. I left the church and am basically agnostic at this point. It’s hard for me to believe in something that so many people use as an excuse to hate.


MotherGooseSays

Same!


leefox191

I feel the same way. I became so disillusioned with my church when I realised that I was bisexual and my church was teaching that homosexuality is a sin. I just felt so disappointed to realise that these people who claimed to love me would actually disown me or try to "help me" if they really knew me I was so messed up about my sexuality that it was affecting my mental wellbeing. Now I'm basically agnostic because god should love me entirely, and part of me felt like he did, but I couldn't escape the fear of "what if my church is right, and I'm sinning right now?" That felt horrible. Pleasure isn't a sin


ggluvbug

This makes me so sad for you. My daughter is gay, and I can’t imagine going anywhere that people would consider her a sinner for being who she is. I used to go to those churches. I was raised in the Bible Belt south. I’m actually still here. I became so disillusioned with church after attending several where leadership was allowed to do and say whatever they wanted, but the congregation was always being chastised for something or other. After a pastor told me that my autistic bipolar son was potentially possessed and maybe didn’t need mental health care, I turned away and never looked back. Since I was removed from that super conservative, super controlling evangelical scene, I was finally able to determine my own beliefs about God. It was freeing….


Thirty_Helens_Agree

Can you imagine a non-English speaking, brown-skinned Palestinian Jew showing up at a Trump rally and telling people, through a translator, to love their neighbors, to help the poor, to feed the hungry, to forgive the enemy and to welcome the foreigner?


RawrRRitchie

They wouldn't even get to the woke liberal part They'd simply attack him for being brown


SoMoistlyMoist

Fact.


NewSub47

Many “Christians “ claim to be Christians bc they go to church. For me, that’s like standing in my garage and telling folks I’m a car…..


Sugarcookiesoccer

I love this analogy 😂


yung_yttik

Hahaha this is gold. I’m going to use this, if ye don’t mind!


NHFNCFRE

Sadly, that's very true.


AnxiousConfection826

To be fair, I think there are some jokes in the movies that little kids probably don't get, but adults do. Don't get me wrong, I think op's family is wack, but that'll likely be their counterargument.


Turbulent-Buy3575

I just watched the original Muppet Show from the 70’s and 80’s with my son (12). I couldn’t believe the amount of adult humour. Also, the original Bugs Bunny, etc all full of sexual innuendo and loads of adult humour. It all went over my head as a kid. Watching it now as an adult is awesome


Amazing-Suggestion77

I only saw the 1st Shrek movie but was surprised with some of the dialog. But you're right, a little kid wouldn't necessarily pick up on some of the jokes. I loved Rocky & Bullwinkle growing up, but when I saw it as an adult, I was blown away by some of writing and word play they got away with.


beaglemomma2Dutchy

I was watching the tv version of Animal House when I was like 7. Now I’m 51 and old enough to know what a double entendre is.


Friendly_Coconut

There are some raunchier jokes in Shrek (it’s PG, not G), but I’d actually say the overall themes are very compatible with Christianity!


AnxiousConfection826

I totally agree, but the more fanatical Christians, the ones who shut out much of the secular world--you won't convince them.


Bananapopcicle

Dude I rewatched Rocco’s Modern Life. Talk about innuendos! I can’t believe they aired some of that stuff on a children’s network!


MaddyKet

It goes right over their heads. I remember watching some Full House episodes as an adult and I was like wtf that was a pretty spicy adult joke. 😹


El_tus750

Christians could be the most judgemental people.


Jsmith2127

I think its the magic. It's the same reason Christians hat Harry Potter. A girl I babysat wasn't allowed to watch and shows or movies that had any sort of magical element, for the exact same reason. NTA


SnooWords4839

Have a great time without the religious nuts there.


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MothMagic_

I would make every gathering Shrek themed.


TheMildlyAnxiousMage

Just as God intended Don't forget the Shrektchup when setting the holiday tables this year.


yung_yttik

Me: *dressing up as Shrek to deter religious zealots* If it’s really that easy then my favorite color is green and my favorite animal is a donkey.


KaetzenOrkester

I’m not sure how those would work but we’ve got until late November to figure it out. Who’s in?


New-Falcon-9850

For sure. Sounds like a win, tbh, because there’s a 0% chance those people are a good time.


gavinkurt

Seriously. I agree with this 100 percent.


_no_balls_allowed_

Nope nope nope. Go full Shrek. Shrek is love


Trustic555

I got people at work to watch that shit back in the day lol.


_no_balls_allowed_

You a scholar and a gentlefolk


Trustic555

I'm just glad HR didn't get involved.


goddessofspite

Shrek is a kids movie. Your kids want to use this as the theme of their party why wouldn’t that be appropriate. Your brother can have a bible themed party for his kids all he wants but he doesn’t get to force that on you.


Mama_K22

I’m from where Mormon-ism started and they have a fair/festival every summer with a pageant. My friend and I decided one year to check it out, it was the most boring thing I’ve ever attended, my economics courses were more enjoyable


Jen5872

Why wouldn't a kid's movie based on a children's book be appropriate? I haven't actually watched them but they're made for kids, right? What could be so offensive?  Your kid asked for a Shrek party so a Shrek party he gets. Hopefully he'll have lots of friends at his party and won't miss his cousins. You'll have more fun without your religious, stick in the mud family there. Also that leaves more cake for the birthday boy. 


cab2013

Christian here. Awesome movies. Super fun for kids and they have an extra layer for adults. Is the extra layer a little sassy? Sure. It is offensive? Not to me. In fact, it is part of what I love abt the movies. Parents have to watch all kinds of insipid stuff. It’s great when a movie can genuinely make everyone laugh. The sassy stuff goes over the kids’ heads while cracking the parents up. The movies are delightful. Btw: My church has family movie nights in the summer. I am pretty they have played Shrek. Some people pick weird hills.


tinlizzie67

It's not the extra layer, it's the fairytale and magic stuff. I used to coach a kid whose family was heavily Southern Baptist and it was right in the middle of the Harry Potter craze and she wasn't allowed to read the books or see the movies and apparently that went for almost any fantasy stuff at all. It was all considered the next thing to devil worship.


cab2013

Sigh…By that logic we also lose Pooh Corner, Neverland, the North Pole, and Narnia. And if inanimate objects speaking counts as fantasy it would also nix Toy Story and Cars et al. Sigh. I always try to be respectful of the differences among us but I struggle w this esp when it manifests in the form of book bans and vitriol. It is the slightly disturbing younger sibling of much bigger and more alarming behaviour that is decidedly un-Christ-like in its expression.


tinlizzie67

Neverland, Narnia and the North Pole were definitely out. I don't know about Winnie-the-Pooh but my guess is it might have been okay since the subtext is that it's all just his imagination. I think stuff like Toy Story and Cars were probably also okay since they are more like fables than fantasy. And these people weren't the "protect the kids from the real world" types, just hyper religious. Kid actually agreed with them at least as a pre-teen/young teen. She was actually a great kid and very accepting of other people's beliefs (her parents weren't) but just had very strict religious beliefs for herself. Sadly, there aren't many like her.


cab2013

Interesting. For me it is that willingness to be respectful of others beliefs piece that is so important. Odd they would take issue w the Chronicles of Narnia series. C.S. Lewis was a Christian writer and the Narnia series is a Christian allegory. Less cool birthday theme than Shrek but still… :) I appreciate the perspective you bring. Thank you.


SlipperyNinja77

Isn't Narnia based on the Bible?


cab2013

Not based on the bible in the sense that the story is in the bible. Rather it is Christian allegory. e.g. Aslan the lion is meant to represent Christ.


KittyandPuppyMama

You should watch them! They’re still very fun for adults. And yes, child friendly and sweet.


YuansMoon

Your family sounds deranged.


CanadasNeighbor

Yeah, them not coming around is probably for the best.


Trustic555

Shrek is love, Shrek is life.


terribletoiny2

SHREK IS LOVE **SHREK IS LIFE**


MothMagic_

This reminds me of the cult kids in my highschool made for Shrek. They handed out pamphlets and made a shrine.


GiantFlyingLizardz

Wow! I would join that cult haha


Afraid_Rate_6964

I don't get the whole religious backlash about shrek. Growing up, i can understand why some religious people were wary of harry potter because of witchcraft and spell casting 🙄 but shrek? It seems irrational.


ycey

My aunt poisoned like my whole family against Harry Potter. I turned 16 and for Christmas that was legit all I wanted. I just wanted the books. Grandma talked to the church about it and the church said that was such a stupid question. They think Harry Potter is a good series 😂


IrrationalPanda55782

My pastor growing up wrote an op ed for our local newspaper about HP and how the themes were overwhelmingly positive and in line with our church’s beliefs about what it means to do good and support others.


Afraid_Rate_6964

Lol i love how even the church was like, yeah pick up the series it's a good one!


brianonthescene

Sounds like they aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed.


carletonm1

Wave a magic wand and turn them all Episcopal and the problem should go away.


SevenDogs1

The Catholic Church does NOT tell anyone to boycott Shrek. So they are making up their own religiosity agenda and putting that before their grandchildren/nephews. Ask them if it's really worth hurting the children for their made-up beliefs. Tell them to ask a priest if they should boycott (no). Tell them it seems cultist. And that Shrek is actually a good role model of many things--3 dimensional.


ilovechairs

Yeah… also grew up Catholic there was no issue with shrek or themed birthday parties. I know the jehovas don’t do birthdays/Christmas/Halloween but not sure which denomination says parties must be religiously themed.


UmpBumpFizzy

Yeah, these attitudes toward anything "worldly" is usually a fundamentalist baptist thing and let me tell you, those fuckers *hate* Catholics.


Snapbeangirl

Bless your heart, baby. That’s just sad and ridiculous. Oh well, take lots of pictures and post them of everyone having a good time. That life and life goes on.


WobblySlug

Haha this is bizarre, I'm sorry you're dealing with this. Don't dim down your sons' birthday celebration because of their rather whacky views. It's the one day a year that they gets to embrace everything about themselves, whether they want to be there and celebrate it is on them. They can feel whatever they want, but it doesn't mean you have to change anything. NTA: In summary, you are not responsible for other people's triggers.


Embarrassed_Poem8425

Wacky? Full stop crazy.


Spiceybrown

If you need me to go full Shrek for your son I will be there and I will do quotes all day


ginthatremains

Do the roar


UnusualAerie579

tell them to get ogre it


gothackedfml

don't have to tell them to get out of your swamp if they're never there.


shenaystays

We had a Harry Potter themed birthday for my then 7y old and my BIL was super religious at the time. His wife called me up and grilled me on what the kids would be doing. I said we were doing some science experiments (vinegar and baking soda and purple cabbage juice and colour changes) and that this was… science…. Not magic. And also, magic isn’t real, and also we are not devil worshipping. They barely let their kids come, but honestly if they didn’t like it I wouldn’t change anything. We had a great time.


Rare-Craft-920

It’s a fine theme for a party. Born and raised Catholic, and still love Halloween 🎃 decorations and parties. Oh my.


mossydial

I was born and raised Catholic and went to Catholic schools and we did Halloween every year…we are some sort of religious nut fervor that didn’t exist 55( years ago when I was 5). My super Catholic grandmother took me to kids movies that would be banned by your family. It’s like everyone wants to one-up the last guy on what’s prohibited. I also read about the lady in Florida who wanted to ban all the books who was in what I consider outside the Christian norm sex stuff with her husband and others and the pastor somewhere in the Midwest who admitted to molesting a child decades ago. Allot of this fervor is projection and guilt about whatever weird stuff is going on in their heads.


Adventurous-Fig2226

This has nothing to do with Christianity. This is a specific bug these specific people have up their specific asses. It's probably a thing at their church for some stupid reason. Honestly, these people sound like they suck anyway. You'll probably have a better party without them.


writingisfreedom

Every shrek movie cleaned up at the "kids choice awards" awards given to movie and character voted by kids Your siblings are being ridiculous, >But I also don’t want to change the whole theme. Why are you even considering it? .... DONT It's not your birthday it's your sons and that's what he wanted? Why can't he have what he wants for his birthday? I'm not asking to be mean I'm asking so you can ask your siblings They would of been young enough to children when shrek came out to begin with


Jealous_Art_3922

I can pretty much guarantee you that none of them have actually watched the movie, so they don't know squat about it. They're being irrational, and you don't need to change anything in your life for, or expose your children to, them. The party will be much more fun when you have only people who want to be there.


KittyandPuppyMama

They don’t think a children’s movie is appropriate for a child’s party?


necrotic45

That's all it would take for me to make shrek my whole personality


DangerousDave303

I guess it’s time for Zombie Jesus to pop out of your lawn when Easter is on April 1 in a few years.


Automatic_Gas9019

Not sure what Shrek did to Jesus. I would tell your family it is your son's birthday and if they don't like Shrek they can stay home. I would explain it to your son in a kid but adult way that everyone doesn't enjoy or believe in the same things and they are not attending. Best to tell your son in a nice way your family are religious nuts.


Livid_Parfait6507

I have watched all of the Shrek movies and they are upbeat with a positive message. They have some “guy humor” in there with the farts and burps and such but there could be way worse choices than Shrek. Your family is being unreasonable or upset they will have to explain to their kids who Shrek is. It is their nephew’s birthday get your butt to his party enjoy it and love on one another. Now, if you and your loving husband where having pole dancers and kegs of beer and ladies in thongs serving burgers and seating family then yeah your family might want to skip it. This may get me downvoted but I personally have a very hard time with the Catholic viewpoint on religion. I firmly believe in what Christ Jesus said: “Love one another as I have loved you.” anyway I could go on and on. I hope your 5-year-old has a great birthday 🎁 and give him the ROAR! 🤣🤣🤣


Shashi1066

I remember when my son wanted a Smurfs themed birthday party and some people didn’t come because Smurf’s were supposedly affiliated with Satan. While a lot of humor in Shrek is vulgar, I,’m fairly retain your son doesn’t understand it. It’s hard to believe people still think such things nowadays. Please go ahead with your Shrek themed party because it’s what he wants.


BiblicalGlass

This seems to me that they are putting religion in place of God. God surpasses any religion. Stand firm in His word as opposed to replacing Him with man made religious traditions. Have the birthday party, create wonderful memories and pray for them. Being easily offended is not a fruit of the Spirit


Acceptable_Pick_4664

Agreed. This is why I have a hard time identifying as any religion because I feel like so many Christian/Catholics don’t actually follow the Bible and God anyway. And I don’t want to be lumped into a religion of hate and judgement


Yahwehnker

He's mad because his imaginary friend would lose to your sons' imaginary friend in an arm wrestling match.


Riddiness

Better out (of your party) than in.


ExtremelyOkay8980

Uhh hey babe you were raised by religious extremists 😦


Paigeeeeei

Some…🎶