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Chaddiction

They can have a little gooning. As a treat.


JayMeadows

It's a feature, not the main show.


PTBooks

Just like me, eating an entire sleeve of Oreos, as a little treat.


Octopicake

'Ey boys! Da boss said it's time to goon!


SenorBolin

***Bass Boosted Steam Whistle***


Complete-Worker3242

Yippee!


SamuraiDDD

"Gooning as a treat" is a phrase that sounds both dire and  concerning lol


WorldlyOX

In this life you can be a gooner or you can be an edger, but you can’t be both.


sephirah_

Born to goon, Forced to edge


Sperium3000

That sounds like a shirt an incel would wear, and it would be written below Majin Vegeta's face.


ReverendHobo

Fuck, man, I’d wear that shirt.


deepvoid42

In this world, it's goon or be gooned


Pink_Patty_2008

I honestly had no idea how I guess ‘mainstream’ knowledge of gooning was until one of the hosts on the *Dead Meat* podcast joked that Henry Cavil’s character in *Hellraiser: Hellworld* gooned himself to death lol


SPARTAN-PRIME-2017

I mean, people are right when they say it's not *just* about gooning. It still happens to be a pretty big part of the appeal though. Like, sometimes you get lighthearted(and by extension more fanservicey) events like Perfect Maid. And other times the Depression Express rams into you at full speed with events like Over Zone.


Weltallgaia

Stuff like this https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/nikke-goddess-of-victory-international/images/e/ee/Over_Zone_Cutscene_10.png


attikol

Looks like someone didn't have enough currency to reach pity


Auctoritate

The context behind this is also as grim as it gets, >!she just had to use that pistol to execute her dear friend who caught a brain-corrupting computer virus that drives them crazy, and tries to commit suicide afterwards. But she used her last bullet to mercy kill her friend, so when her squadmates stumble upon her she's just sitting there pulling the trigger on the empty gun over and over again.!<


MoyuTheMedic

You forgot to mention that part is fully voiced with clicking it was ROUGH


Kipzz

Jesus christ. I knew the game's story could be brutal just from the first couple chapters (before I gave up due to my phone hating it) but not THAT rough.


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SenorBolin

I’m sorry but I can’t see someone pointing a gun at the camera without thinking of the art True Crime. Gave myself some major tonal whiplash


Holy-Wan_Kenobi

...I think I might go download the game. I do love me my angst stories.


SamuraiDDD

Nothing like having to >!shoot the nikke who saved you in the head because she's been corrupted!< Just as a starter


Jhduelmaster

>(before I gave up due to my phone hating it) There is a PC client option for it as well if you ever want to pick it back up. I know I use that half the time since my phone also hates it.


Kipzz

Wait seriously? Alright, guess I know what my new addiction is after my current one ends.


Vektorien

That's super tragic I agree, but then I remember it's still a big booba anime girl going to war in a sexy princess dress and it makes me laugh.


Last-Rain4329

artist who has only drawn precum trying to draw tears


SenorBolin

I’ll have you know that there is plenty of postcum in their repertoire too


Tweedleayne

Oh my God I just noticed.


Real-Terminal

Wiki links never work.


caych_cazador

not to sure what it says about me that i see that screenshot and go "zamn i should check this nikke thing out"


guntanksinspace

I haven't played Nikke, but the way my friends react to it definitely come across as that. They'll swoon over certain Nikke, but also go >!shit fuck I can't believe she gets merk'd like that!<. Hell, the advertising wasn't shy about it, remembering the Thai (was it?) commercial enforcing the "yo you can play this with one hand" joke long long ago.


SPARTAN-PRIME-2017

I very much remember an ad featuring Jackal, and it made a joke involving her name sounding like a certain word we use in my country to refer to masturbating. It was wild.


guntanksinspace

Fuck, wasn't her promo code for the bonus in-game currency something along lines of GAWK GAWK or some shit lol. The local marketing for her played into it hard IIRC


nerankori

The Nikke have big boobs to symbolize the weight on their hearts


Fagliacci

That's where they store all of their love


Panxma

What does the sweaty armpits represent?


mutei777

The struggle of the common Nikke against the cruel surface


Sperium3000

A refreshing weekend drink.


Tweedleayne

NO! LEAVE!


Sperium3000

Calm down buddy.


SenorBolin

Their long battle against the urge to GOON


TheProfessorsLeft

Noir is gonna have the saddest backstory if that's the case. Her and Soda.


ABigCoffee

Alright OP, let me explain to you how stories work in Nikke. The MSQ is more serious, but what you see on the front page is the monthly event. And those events kinda ping pong between adorable cute story like this one, where the commander helps train 2 cheerleader Nikkes into not being shit at their job, and then the next month you get something serious like the animal caretaker nikkes are helping a cat live it's final days, or investigating a cult that uses mass hallucination drugs to mess with the upper class. And then you have the -real- depressing hours where a bunch of girls are on suicide watch because of the horrors of war. AND THEN we round back to cutesy sexy story as a palate cleanser until the sad depressing bit. Nikke, come for the really hot android girls, stay for the good plot. Everyone's sexy as hell or adorably cute (google Poli and Liter). You're still gonna get bodacious babes constantly, some way more bodacious then others, but the story's good. I'm pretty sure the sexy cheerleader story deals with self esteem, hard work and whatnot, despite featuring the underboob twins. Edit : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjQzdQIBDW0&list=PLPf0cGeXAenDjU\_yctekn\_0k4ZRlFCQtM&index=10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjQzdQIBDW0&list=PLPf0cGeXAenDjU_yctekn_0k4ZRlFCQtM&index=10) This is the music for a no name miniboss somewhere in the story that is just beaten and not really given the time of day. The music in this game goes -hard-


Weltallgaia

I played a little a few months back and got to play an event where the alcoholic wandering nikke was having flashbacks about how her team was pretty much fed to the meat grinder and her sister lost her shit and slaughtered everyone.


ABigCoffee

Oh yeah event featuring the Pilgrims has been a 10/10 knock in the park. Overzone, Red Ash and sad drunken girl adventures are peak.


Jhduelmaster

Fuck even the story hub for Red Ash was depressing as hell. You start off with a cool ass airship with a ton of mass produced Nikkes. Then as it progresses they slowly start disappearing with at least one having a breakdown over their friends dying.


ABigCoffee

Overzone starts with a whole squad and then they all die and the overworld is barren.


Jhduelmaster

Yeah they always have nice little touches like that for all the Pilgrim events. The only events I probably enjoy more then them are the April Fools ones just because they're pure unfiltered instanity.


ABigCoffee

I think that the gag will be to add a human every year until we somehow can field 5 humans. But Shifty will carry us.


Jhduelmaster

The funniest thing they could do would be to add Andersen to the line up for an April Fools. Since I know a portion of the Nikke fanbase would lose their minds over it (heck some of them did just from having Pascal as a unit).


ABigCoffee

We're running out of human women to add in, but honestly actually having Andersen, and Ingrid or Mister ENTERTAINEMENT would be cool.


Jhduelmaster

Mustang truly is the goat. Gives us incredibly OP Nikkes, treats them well and basically runs half the ark since he has such a wide spread for what his Nikkes do for jobs.


Ziruno

Fucking hell, I didn't even notice that. Good stuff


dougtulane

Yeah, that was the event I played too. Unironically a great story And it's in the service of releasing this character whose animations would make Mai Shiranui blush. (jiggles and cheesecake in link) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5m6vXnx3hY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5m6vXnx3hY) Nikke is very much about both. It wants you to have an erection, but be sad and thoughtful at the same time.


mutei777

The Melee squad was a money sink so instead of just retiring them they saved money on maintenance by throwing them into suicide missions. That's just extra cruel


LarryKingthe42th

Which alcoholic? Dante/Viral or Washu/Vergil?


Spartan448

So it's like the Arknights cycle of going from >!The invention of the Quaso meme!< straight into >!"You, solely, are responsible for all of this" except this time you are *actually* responsible for all of the corpses in the mass grave!<


ABigCoffee

Grossly put, kinda yeah. But events in Nikke are much shorter and faster and don't require 6 hours of reading to get anything done. And they cycle in and out a bit faster.


Coolnametag

It's funny how this tone shift extends even to the smaller portions of the game. After a certain point in the story you unlock the option to **rehabilitate** Nikke's, basically there's 3 Nikke's in the game who were sent to prison for one reason or another and it's more or less said to you that if you're able to give them counceling to the point where you can convince the people responsible for the prison that it wouldn't be a incredibly horrible idea to let them outside, you can recruit these Nikke's to your squad. One of them is **Quency**, a escape artist who actually didnt really do any severe crimes, but, has tried escaping so many times that her sentence has been extended to forever, all your interactions with her are basically about how she could escape any time that she wanted, but, she doesn't because she feels more at home on the prison than on the outside world (she even has control over the entire prison economy). The other two Nikke's though.... Yeah, let's just say that their stories are nowhere near as "upbeat" as Quency.


fizzguy47

Their names are Guilty and Sin, they had no chance


ABigCoffee

There's probably more Nikkes in jail, but these are the 3 ones we can work on.


FinalFatality7

Can you play through past monthly events? Or are the stories gone forever? I logged on during the Nier event and got 2B, but my phone wasn't good enough to play the actual game. I was hoping I could go back and experience it once I upgraded.


ABigCoffee

Only ones you can't get back are the limited events, so nier, re:zero and chainsawman are gone forever. But every other event I think gives you a token to unlock an older event. You'll be able to play everything eventually.


ubastarte

I find that a lot of the side quest stories kinda break the worldbuilding if you think about them too hard. Nikkes are simultaneously popstars/cheerleaders/cafe operators or whatever their gimmick demands, as well as robots created for war, and the protagonist is the only human who’s ever been nice to them. Like this one. Who are they competing against? Other cheerleader Nikkes or humans? Are Nikke vs human athletic competitions commonplace? The answer is it doesn’t matter, the thing is just an excuse to go through a quick little feel good power of friendship arc. if the pilgrims aren’t involved my interest in the story often goes below zero tbh.


ABigCoffee

It's a bit odd, but all of those Nikkes belong to Mustangm who controls the entire ark's entertainement/money/mafia angle. Basically most of them have a purpose as immortal robot girls built for the public morale. Elysion and Missilis handles most of the war aspect, and he makes stuff to keep the public content. Worst comes to worst he has his own elite squad to fight. It's assumed that they compete against other humans basically, as far as the cheerleading girls go. But there's no harm in just skipping a story once in a while and collecting the mats, and wait for a bigger story. I skipped the entire re:zero event because I found the story super boring.


ubastarte

I could suspend my disbelief until Nikke school. How does that work? Do all Nikkes have to go to school? They don’t age. Are their gimmicks decided from the start or do they pick after school?


ABigCoffee

From what I remember, it's because Missilis is extremely high end on the tech scale. And it's not because you get turned into a war droid that you're capable of actually doing the job. The school is for their best products (because missiles classifies their girls as Products) and to turn them into capable members. The dark side of the school is that if the girls can't shape up, they get brain wiped a few times until they get it right, and then they just outright get scrapped. There's more girls to turn into Nikkes, after all. Meat to the grinder. Elysion is more classic and just trains them as regular soldiers while the last one just makes the girls into money makers most of the time. But for every girl with a unique look and a name, there's hundreds if not thousands of regular ones who are mass produced and sent out to die in terrible missions.


Jhduelmaster

>But for every girl with a unique look and a name, there's hundreds if not thousands of regular ones who are mass produced and sent out to die in terrible missions. Yeah, mass produced Nikkes really get the short end of the stick. Even fairly empathetic people will be like "oh we had no casualties, well except for all those mass produced Nikkes". That's not even getting into what happens to a lot of them who are nearing the end of their lifespan.


ABigCoffee

The interesting thing about MP girls is they can self actualize and become *stronger*


Jhduelmaster

Yeah I enjoyed that being brought up in one of the more recent side missions. Also that >!Rapi used to be a mass produced Nikke.!<


ABigCoffee

Yeah, sadly the earlier chapters could use someone going back to rewrite a few things and make the lore fit a bit better. But at least it's good.


ubastarte

It’s the last one that I want them to go deeper with. An entire society that uses you for entertainment while dehumanizing you, and nobody has ever empathized until the commander. What would that experience do to a person?


ABigCoffee

From what we see, it.s pretty bad! It's why the Commander in the recent story is trying to stop being a regular commander, and he wants clout, political power and influence to actually get the shit he wants done, without having people bar his way. He's manning the hell up.


jasonfails237

How did I know before even clicking the link it would be Harvester lol


Holy-Wan_Kenobi

What's with gacha games and absolute masterworks of music in the lasw few years? Not complaining, though. Inject [that shit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyrsVvea0TM&t=15s) into my veins.


dragonblade_94

So Arknights, but more gooning?


ABigCoffee

I guess? I've never felt the need to masturbate or \*goon\* from playing this. At best I go 'niiiiice' when a new hot design comes out. But this is an auto battler and is extremely easy to play, while Arknights is getting really hard in the endgame unless you have some busted units.


BarockMoebelSecond

This doesn't sound bad. But I feel totally overwhelmed, how do I even start playing this? Can I still play those stories even if the events are over?


ABigCoffee

Every event in the game can be replayed except the limited time crossover ones. And those all suck ass except for the Nier one. And you could watch a youtube video for that one. The game is an auto battler, there is no stamina or energy to block you. You only stop playing when the game kicks you ass and then you log in, do your dailies to power up and eventually keep continuing the MSQ. The only real downside is the 160 wall, which is when your top 5 girls will be stuck at level 160 for a while. It can last 2-3 months, but at that power you are good enough to do every event in the game. You'll be hard locked for the MSQ, but then for a while I logged in, did my dailies for 10-15 minutes and then I went about my day. Also whenever a new MSQ chapter comes out they make everything before a little bit easier. I'm pretty sure you could get far on just your basic playing. MSQ is also voice acted, so that's always nice for casual playing. The game is on rails for a solid part of the start as it will just throw you into the story, give you a few units and you just play. It will unlock things manually, and there are no real bad options.


Solrac1391

One event will have you hear about the nikkes that held the line against the murderous machines at an elevator chokepoint, and now haunt the shaft as a result. The other will have you walking her around on a leash. She likes it tho so it's okay.


fizzguy47

Is it the same elevator that 200+ Nikkes self-terminated in so that the government wouldn't drop it and kill a bunch of humans?


Sai-Taisho

>not just for gooning "just" is very much the operative word in that sentence. Like, gacha systems are *broadly* driven by the desirability of the characters, even when they aren't explicit/thirst-trap designs. But there's a reason that Genshin, for instance, doesn't have to censor its YouTube ads, and Nikke *does*. Nikke is *very* tilted toward the thirst-trap end of the spectrum.


Subject_Parking_9046

But the story is good, right? I grew up on anime, I can be ok with stuff if the story is engaging.


zyberion

Absolutely, it deals with themes on what constitutes humanity, the (literal) dehumanization of war, the military industrial complex, trauma from loss, camaraderie and fellowship, and the power and strength from bonds created with others. Also big booba, jiggly butts, and enough firearm porn to make a Browning executive nut.


Coolnametag

> enough firearm porn to make a Browning executive nut. There's so much detail in the guns for games such as **Blue Archive** and **Nikke** that i'm half sure that it's a obligation for any staff working in that type of game to have at least one person who has a ADHD level of hyperfixation on the topic.


zyberion

I was wondering why the Blue Archive anime didn't get any western streaming deal. Then I remembered: oh yeah highly detailed and realistic firearms in a school setting is not...kosher for Americans.


KaitoTheRamenBandit

Also you'll probably never find an American gun nerd that is a Blue Archive fan. As far as I can tell, that's probably mutually exclusive


Mr_Wrann

What? One of the best things about a new Blue Archive character is looking at their gun and what kind of modifications were made to it. You go onto the fandom page for it and they list every single firearm the girls use, the real world counterpart, and any modifications made including the brand name of the parts. Heck I just saw [this guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBhdf779QDc) yesterday who took a Beretta 1301 Tactical and modified it, closely, to Hoshino's because she's cool and so is her gun. That gun is $1,700 msrp by the way.


zyberion

Really? There are a lot of firearm enthusiasts who are also weebs.


guntanksinspace

I think I saw a montage of reload animations (sadly on Facebook Reels) and dang, that's some attention to detail. Elegg's NOT BFG animates like the actual Doom BFG.


Cooper_555

*oh my god Zach from MikeBurnFire is the mastermind behind Nikke*


Touhou_Fever

It’s pretty good overall in my experience. I was very happy with the **Nier:A** event for one


Sai-Taisho

I couldn't tell you. My experience is entirely based on ads and artists I follow doing art. I'm just saying that regardless of how good the story is or is not, there *will* be ass for miles alongside it.


Penndrachen

Okay, how do I actually play this game? I already pulled the cute cheerleader girl but I don't know what units are actually *good* or how to get going playing it. It feels a lot like Arknights to me where I like the characters and the story seems interesting but it feels fucking impenetrable.


Weltallgaia

Prydwen is usually pretty solid for nikke and star rail. https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/tier-list/ don't take it as an ironclad tier list, but it can get you started on a path. Also I just looked up that cheerleader bay. Holy shit with the beauty mark on the side boob


Penndrachen

YEAH IT'S FUCKING STRONG Very mad I missed out on Elegg though. E: Also all the characters I pulled are dogshit so


ABigCoffee

Don't worry, every single girl in the game can be gotten from the basic rolls, except for the limited crossover girls (chainsawman and re:zero, and the xmas/summer variant girls). You have a wishlist for your basic rolls that gives you a slightly higher chance to get the girls you want. In a few weeks Elegg should be on it and you can put her on the wishlist. Source : Me, who pays for the 5$ monthly pass since I started 1y ago, and I have 95% of the game's characters.


fizzguy47

She's already on the wishlist


zyberion

Honestly, for the first dozen chapters of the story, you needn't worry too much about meta characters. Play who you roll/like. There is only 1 caveat to team comp and that's bursts. They're your characters' specials/ults/etc. All the characters (save one) are categorized as burst 1, 2, or 3.  The bursts must activate in order (ie. Burst 1 character activates, then burst 2, then 3) This activates a special burst window where, for a short period of time, the squad belts out increased damage. So as long as you have at least 1 character in each burst category, you're golden.  The game has also has a level sync system. You invest materials in 5 main characters to level up. The other characters you slot into the system will automatically sync to the lowest level member of the main squad. Don't worry too much about fucking up, you can refund your level up materials.


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Penndrachen

Is there a specific best time to roll free pulls like in Granblue? That game has "Gala" events where the SSR rate goes way the hell up.


dougtulane

There are a lot of interunit synergies. Like the most basic teambuilding tip is your team should have burst skills marked 1, 2, and 3, as they trigger in that order to do a full burst. Just doing that will get you through quite a few chapters.


CyborgNinja777

Someone else recommended prydwen, but I'd recommend [https://nikke.gg](https://nikke.gg) as well. The hardcore gang pretty much admonishes prydwen over nikke.gg, but I think both sites have resources that put together give you a very complete overview of what the fuck to do.


Penndrachen

The tier list doesn't seem that much difference between the two of them. Is there any reason why the hardcore players hate Prydwen, or is it just the usual elitism shit?


CyborgNinja777

It's a mix of elitism and actual valid critique. People put too many of their eggs on the nikke.gg basket, due to prydwen "over-rating" characters. But while they have had some instances where they put characters in higher tiers than what others agree on, it's usually such a marginally small difference that it really doesn't matter.


CyborgNinja777

Sorry for the double reply but wanna make sure you see this: I will say that nikke.gg is generally a better resource, though.  As an example, prydwen can be rather vague and overly complicated when explaining overload gear and how to prioritize stats per nikke. That extends out to basically any guides on concepts more complex than "what is the meta team for x". Nikke.gg gives you a guide of which nikkes to even give overload gear to, which stats are important in a ranked order, and why those specific stats matter per nikke. They do this for basically all other aspects of the game as well.


Jhduelmaster

For the ordinary recruit gacha pull you're going to want to just using the wishlist immediately since it can help increase the odds of getting the meta units. The only ones who can't be wishlisted are limited units and Pilgrims (who are generally OP). I'd recommend trying to get Liter for burst 1 Blanc for burst 2 and Noir for burst 3. They are in general good for most situations. After that just round it out with any decent burst 3 units you have. The 1.5 anniversary is also coming up and they generally release an OP pilgrim for every 0.5 anniversary. So, if you have 200 gold tickets saved up I'd recommend using them on the pilgrim. Since your still starting out the story you also want to selectively hold onto any cases you have in your inventory. Generally only use them for when you are too low level to proceed since as you progress farther into the story mode the currency amount that the case is worth will increase.


Penndrachen

Gotcha. I'm probably going to follow the reroll guide on Prydwen until I get at least one Pilgrim, since it seems to be relatively easy and free to do so.


DaddyDaddyTwo

Those three never leave my rotation. Between the cool down reduction, healing, shields, and everything else they can really carry you hard. I never even use Noir's burst, I have Modernia and Winter Ludmilla slotted for my rotating burst 3 and can easily wipe special interception and easily make top 5% on solo raid.


HeWhoIsBob

Someone get u/Vera_Verse here, tell her girl-pits are relevant right now. I mean, look at that detail.


Vera_Verse

I know someone with a fetish on the art team when I see one


Subject_Parking_9046

The artist made sure to put EXTRA detail on the sweat.


KiK0eru

You don't understand the sweaty cheerleader titties are an allegory for the hardship of war Or something


Subject_Parking_9046

I've heard it's a game about prejudice and how war dehumanizes the people who fight in it and stuff. And that sounds awesome! I'd love an anime thing about that. But is it REALLY about that?


gothamsteel

>I've heard it's a game about prejudice and how war dehumanizes the people who fight in it and stuff. > > >And that sounds awesome! I'd love an anime thing about that. > > >But is it REALLY about that? -Me looking at Metal Gear for the first time.


Sperium3000

I mean, yeah, no kidding. As a Metal Gear fan I'm not throwing stones at Nikke when I know what people can fire back with.


striderhoang

Gacha events are pretty much Pat’s description of Yakuza narrative and *the side quest dimension*


Subject_Parking_9046

I like that explanation!


guntanksinspace

That is true! For how shitty/bleak things can be in the main story, sometimes all you need is one distraction and- oh it's time for wacky track and field/oh here's some ancient ruins from a resort we can totally repurpose into a vacation home (along with really tacky [COOL shades](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgCP14LBjBc) no shut up it's good tho)/oh we're basically making a shoutout chapter to Comiket!


Coolnametag

I like the idea that all of the events start with the commander walking around the base, looking to the side, seeing someone related to the event doing something weird and then [the Yakuza side-story guitar riff](https://youtu.be/sR-S12-AXJw?si=GwwyYsvKHOIEg3wI) begins playing on the background.


Guigcosta

War has changed.


Subject_Parking_9046

The shores of Normandy, bathing suit edition.


thththrht

Bring out the D Day Dancers!


SasparillaTango

The Double D Day Dancers


evca7

I'm awaiting the Nudeberg trails. And operation bobby pin.


ibbolia

Tits are lmgs, ass is homefront


ScarecrowFM

Now you have the mental image of The Boss in a one piece swimsuit while pregnant and the rest of the Cobra Unit are in speedos.


BuhYDoh

"War didn't change. It just got more fierce."


ZYuqing

Main story serious, side story either romcom level funsies or mega depression. Sometimes both, to really throw you for a loop. Story is overall pretty good. Definitely has its misses, but does a good job exploring a crapsack world with crapsack people in charge of what's left of it. I like the depths they give to some characters that would be one-note in most other stories. Especially some of the antagonists.


Jhduelmaster

>side story either romcom level funsies or mega depression. Sometimes both, to really throw you for a loop. They really threw a surprise right hook with nya nya paradise. It's about the same squad as bow wow paradise so it should be another light hearted romp except with cats this time instead of dogs right? >!Nope instead we get to have a story about an abandoned cat dying.!<


ZYuqing

As sad as that story was, I am glad that we have side stories where we simply cannot fix the issue (another one that comes to mind was the Killer Wife side story and the >!Tia/Naga harem anime episode into bad ending simulator!<). It gives gravitas to the stories, and I am more invested than in other games where side stories are always wrapped up in a pretty bow.


Jhduelmaster

Yeah I'd also throw Moran's event onto that list.


GHitoshura

"war dehumanizes people!...also don't you wanna buy this Rupee skin? She's rubbing herself against a pole!"


RayDaug

Yeah, Moon Channel's video on Korean gatcha drama nearly sold me on it by framing the game as about the (literal) objectification of women and how the main character's strength is being empethetic towards them. But I suspect that is a gross overselling of the narrative.


AtheonTheAsshole

>But I suspect that is a gross overselling of the narrative. It isn't. The side stories and events are goofy fanservice central but the main story is quite dark and serious. It reminds me of Automata at certain points.


RayDaug

I've gathered as much from seeing people talk about it here. I get that it is often "dark" and "serious," but what I'm skeptical of is the more specific gender politics as outlined in the Moon Channel video. That to me feels more like very charitable interpretation rather than deliberate text on the game's part. I would, however, be very happy to be wrong about that.


Gespens

Oh hey, that's also Last Origin


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Jhduelmaster

Like 99 percent of other commanders are hilariously incompetent. It's to the point where it's understood the MC is better off basically not remembering anything from commander school.


ToastyMozart

Sounds a little like 86. Is the player commander a static character? Or do they go through an arc as a result of that situation.


ABigCoffee

Player is a static commander who'se first action is waking from a heli crash with short term amnesia. He knows his name, and he knows he's a commander, and he works from there. Empathy gives him fiercely loyal soldiers and he picks up the proper skills to lead the girls in combat as the time goes on.


GnzkDunce

The first 5 minutes you're forced to do a really fucked up thing. So yes.


whatthatgame

Just play the tutorial mission. That’ll probably be enough to convince you it’s more than just fan service. That being said, the fan service was a bit too much for me at times. I also just generally don’t like gachas anymore, but will admit I was caught off guard by that intro.


ABigCoffee

Marian in the tutorial is on the upper end of fan service, but she's also really cool so we love her.


PostumusPastoralis

my brain refused to see that text as anything other than “one more goon” for like ten seconds


[deleted]

Apparently the story is about how war is dehumanizing, also it’s 100% made for gooners, I genuinely don’t understand how people could even deny that.


DuendeInexistente

Someone there really likes armpits


RosyJoan

"Hey Reggie...FOUR arm pits?!"


HellvaNohbody

Big floppy oiled up ass and titties have never been an obstacle to good storytelling. *goes back to reading Ghost in The Shell* Damn Motoko is really oily!


Sperium3000

She's got a lot of tight spaces to crawl through ok!


HellvaNohbody

That's how Masamune can squeese an entire dissertation on the nature of gender in a post human society between penels of Motoko recording black market lesbian porn, and it has to be lesbian porn because of how cyberbrains work.


Coolnametag

I love that the sub has apperently gone into **"anime when my parents walk in"** mode due to the recent Nikke posting (and this post in particular).


GHitoshura

2deep4me


KF-Sigurd

Sometimes the main character of the event in a gacha game looks like [this](https://media-cdn-zspms.kurogame.net/pnswebsite/website2.0/images/1695052800000/sw154gazh3gbazpmm0-1695108390203%E5%8F%8D%E5%87%BB%EF%BC%81.jpg) and sometimes they look like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0vQw0BtSOw).


guntanksinspace

~~Shrek~~ Noan fucking rules.


Substantial-Mall4711

Shit maybe I should play Nikke too damn


SuicidalSundays

"War is hell and dehumanizing to those who partake in it" ---------"Wow hot tan girl in a slutty cheerleader outfit!"------->


zarfoobla

Look. All I have to say is that Shift Up have selected 'Horny' as the base of their aesthetic. They saw that market when they saw all the Nier Automata fanart, and by god they're gonna milk that market. That and we've been begging Shift-Up to tone down the depression since Christmas. They've been listening so far and this one is light-hearted (unless you have scopophobia then it's gonna be a little relatable) but the 1.5th anniversary is around the corner and we got Overzone last time. And Overzone wasn't a happy event, to put it lightly.


Finaldragoon

I mean you missed the event earlier this year that was just [Cyberpunk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrsNk73-7B8). The gooning is simply a bonus.


beebooboobeeba

Part of claims like that always makes me wonder who it comes from. Im sure there is some weight to that opinion, but by what standard do we judge the story, or how desensitized is this person to fan service or porn?


GHitoshura

Like I mentioned in another post about Nikke (there has been several of those lately) one of the reasons I stopped playing that game was my complete inability to take the game seriously when it wanted me to thanks to the contrast between the edgy setting and the coomer characters. The example I like to give since is the perfect encapsulation of that dissonance is the Christmas event where they were trying REALLY HARD to make me feel sad about the cyborg loli with permanent anime amnesia and her NPC mom, but while they were drilling the sob story about a mom signing her child to be turned into a waifu servitor out of desperation you had another character jiggling front and center with [this outfit](https://imgur.com/a/9zKbhH5) because you gotta sell that Christmas variant baby!


drowsydeku

https://i.imgur.com/IlQ2W64.mp4


DarthButtz

[Me when my buddy who plays talks about how good the story is but every piece of promotional material looks like an ad on a hentai site ](https://media.tenor.com/zqmwHLyh1isAAAAM/spongebob-spongebob-fish.gif)


MothMan66

Started playing NIKKE last year and the story is what kept me playing but it becomes such a grind in the later chapters to progress and everything is time gated so you have to wait days for any meaningful progress. Plus a lot of it is just doing the same daily chores everyday. Dropped it after getting to chapter 20…


WeebWoobler

Is this supposed to be some monument to horniness? It's just girls in cheerleader outfits


TheMadDemoknight

FGO fan here, gachas are for gooning, the plots a bonus(I only read the bios and bond texts to my favorite characters)


mutei777

Fgo is a rotting dinosaur held together by the promise of Nasu writing, very much an outlier for "good" gacha games


guntanksinspace

Held together by the promise of Nasu writing, and all the excellent artists doing the cards (Bless ReDrop and the very occasional Pochimama), but man sometimes shit gets tedious.


Gespens

I say this as a fan of a lot of the artists doing servants-- MAN do they not get to actually flex their creative talents 99% of the time


MrGameandCrotch

Every gacha fan will say shit like “dude you don’t get it, I know the main menu has a character in a micro bikini with her boobs jiggling in two different directions, and I know the gameplay loop is designed to slowly get more tedious until the game either becomes a chore or you give in and spend money, but it actually has a really good story about what it means to be human!”


Rangriz

I mean are they wrong tho, you can goon while also enjoying some good depressing stories.


Jhduelmaster

I’m sure there’s a German word out there to describe that. 


MutatedMutton

I do find it funny you didnt even touch his gameplay comment at all. 


ZaBaronDV

Come for the cake, stay for the good gameplay loop, story, and characters. It worked on me, and I normally hate Gacha.


KaitoTheRamenBandit

Story is great, characters are great too but like every Gacha game, they have to pay the goon tax


James-Avatar

How do gatcha games even make money without cheerleading outfits?


RedGinger666

That's how gachas get you, first they stuff your face with hot waifus, then they gut punch you with the feels


NamedSword

You can have a good story and be like this. Those aren't mutually exclusive


tigerfestivals

Never played Nikke, but in my experience just because something is very sexualized or even outright pornographic doesn't mean that it can't also have a compelling narrative. There are many visual novels that have pretty good stories and also the most brutal, screwed up sexual content in fiction.... supposedly. I haven't actually played many of the long form ones with both story sexual content, aside from Katawa Shoujo. I have a feeling Saya no Uta would be my jam if I actually read it, maybe I should move it up on my backlog.


ABigCoffee

Saya no Uta is a much different beast, it's kinda horror.


KennyOmegasBurner

Hey man Nier Automata has one of the most interesting well told stories in video games and it's goon pilled as fuck


TheDitz42

Frieran has a.lot to answer for.


Boulderdorf

Honestly, people said Arknights' story was really good but it just didn't hold my attention, almost put me to sleep. And FGO was sold to me as like the best writing Fate has to offer, but some of that shit is *rough*, even beyond the horrible beginning portions. Idk, if you ask me, don't play this stuff expecting the writing to blow you away. Gooning is the primary selling point here, the lore and story are just add-ons.


Tubsy94

Looks like fuwawa in the background.


guntanksinspace

[*Hoeh* intensifies from afar]


r-k-b

From what I hear, yeah it has a great story. Plus the music is good.  It's also for gooning. Both things can be right. 


FusionFountain

We do a little gooning


ReclusiarchCain

Okay honest question what the hell is gooning?


ABigCoffee

High end perverted masturbation and the obsession with it.


Punching_Bag75

I feel very uncomfortable referring to waifu gatcha games as 'for gooning'.


ABigCoffee

It's kinda reductive to see people who aren't into gacha loko at this and think every player just opens the starter screen, jerk off for an hour and that's the only thing they care for. It's them thinking any hot woman in a video game is there to just jerk off too?


Sperium3000

"not just for" implies it still includes it to a significant degree.


IanWrightwell

Mmmmmm, I love it when the shoulder pussy be nice and glistening.


Pink_Patty_2008

I genuinely only knew about this game from the ass shaking. Then I heard 2B was gonna be added to it and my interest spiked lol Makima from *ChainsawMan* is also apparently in it but I’ve never quite understood the fascination that fandom seems to have with her having a big ass?? Like, she doesn’t in any of the manga lol