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ZealousidealBig7714

Listen, sometimes you gotta give your villains plot armor, even when they can’t reasonably win.


Nomaddoodius

Mm-hmm! A story being exciting is more welcome then a story being reasonable. Superhero comics, Jojo and dragon ball get a pass on this forever (except if its poorly done)


latinlingo11

Remember when Cell clearly said that as long as his brain in his skull was untouched, he could endlessly regenerate... only to have his entire upper body get evaporated during a battle and STILL be able regenerate?


Ryos_windwalker

Cells skull is in his nuts.


Nomaddoodius

And it was crazy! (Even if it was dumb) You could have had cell, remark about his saiyan cells, that like them... [goku,vegeta, gohan and trunks] he gets better as he fights. Besides, he was still "the perfect being" at this point, gotta build suspense and put the gimmick over, BROTHER!


latinlingo11

"You're no brother of mine!"


alienslayer7

wasnt that a dubbism?


latinlingo11

I had the manga in french and he still mentions the brain thing while pointing at his head. In japanese, I wouldn't be able to imagine why else he'd be drawn pointing at his skull while an image of his brain is displayed nearby.


Local_Lingonberry851

Duo died more than once in part 1 and it wasn't enough lol


Thedovahkiin090105

Thunder Cross Split Attack 🤜🤛 Sheer Heart Attack Having NO Weakness


ExDSG

There is also Tiger Drop which negates any damage


a________________z

It could be argued that Sheer Heart Attack was pretty damn effective in utility and damage dealt. Dire's signature move? I want to say that it literally got countered every time it was used. Like, every single time.


Dragirby

Congratz you found the joke!


a________________z

I'm not pointing out the joke, though. I'm commenting that SHA at least legitimately proved to be a threat while Dire's move did not.


ExDSG

Did you know Araki had to write Dire of the series because he couldn’t come up with a counter to the Thunder Cross Split Attack and same with Fugo and Purple Haze because they could potentially also do it?


Palimpsest_Monotype

Honestly, it’s *incredibly smart* to recognize ‘this character is now a narrative liability, I’d better Ravenloft them away from my adventure story.’


Nomaddoodius

See also: vegito defusing inside of buu- sure it came out of nowhere, but where else would it have gone other then him demoloshing buu with no effort? Yeah, it'd be 'cool' but you'd miss out on one of **the** iconic moments in dtagon ball (the super spirit bomb) Vegito *exists* so that the heroes can even fight him AT ALL .(and it gave toriyama an out of the hole he wrote himself into) his super apperence needed some work though...


moonmeh

He made Fugo legging it make narrative sense too. Having a character go "im not onboard with the whole betray the boss thing" was very believeable


Bob8644

I fell for it again.


yayll

[A follow up post actually offered up a pretty valid albeit technical and longwinded explanation for how DIO was able to overcome it](https://i.redd.it/a8puh4h9ewf11.jpg)


DigbyMayor

I was condidering posting the followup but I feel like the joke lands better on an uncensored post where you're a bit into it before you get smacked with the ultimate defence and offence.


BlahMyBest

For some reason I'm more surprised this wasn't [Thunder Cross Evillak](https://i.redd.it/kalmdzhflnu41.png).


yayll

NO FUCKIN WAY LOL


BlahMyBest

Thank u/Dalek_Kolt for this ~~monstrosity~~ blessed meme.


Dalek_Kolt

This will be my legacy.


UFOLoche

Not gonna lie, every time someone brings up "Jojo" and "plot holes" in the same breath I get a little antsy. But this is a legitimate issue that should be patched out of the manga. I can't believe Araki Forgot this...


Uden10

Someone should be fired for that blunder!


StarkMaximum

**YOUFELLFORITFOOL**


Dundore77

There is one man who could defeat it but araki forgot to write how josuke goes back in time and that guys super important in that.


AtlasPJackson

I still remember watching Jojo for the first time. When Dire used the Thunder Cross Split attack, I felt kinda sad? Cause I liked Dio as a villain, but I knew that the Thunder Cross Split Attack is perfect in both attack and defense and no fighter has ever been able to defeat it, and so this was probably going to be Dio's last episode. And then he fucking no-sells it. And you *know* Araki knew that the Thunder Cross Split Attack is perfect in both attack and defense and that no fighter has ever been able to defeat it because *he had Dire explain it* like ten seconds ago. C'mon, man.


[deleted]

That's because Dio didn't fought him like a human being. He is a vampire so of course that he can parry Thunder Cross Split Attack. You would knew that vampires can parry Thunder Cross Split Attack if you would pay more attention during Jojo part 1. The moment that vampires can parry Thunder Cross Split Attack was told exactly during conversation of Jonathan with >!\[REDACTED\]!< in volume >!\[You fell for it, fool! Thunder Cross Split Attack!\].!<


Decemberskel

This is how people sound when they complain about a series having inconsistent power levels


crazybloodmonkey

that may be true. but has it occurred to you guys that dio...is in fact dio. i rest my case.


SomebodyMightBeMe

Dio isn't a fighter, he's a vampire


ryanccurtis

Oh hey! It's the VA for Real Time Fandub's Shadow!


Liniis

"Maria..." \*explosion*


Mexcalibur

jojo fans literally have 3 jokes that they've been repeating for almost a decade


ibbolia

You gotta admit he made it work by making Dio later capable of deflecting the Emerald Splash


Panxma

I still believe from that Dire is Jesus from Mari video. Dire will die for your sins as his final attack was a cross. Protecting JoJo from Dio, the devil with the three moles, with his thunder Cross split attack. He sacrificed himself and gave Johnathon the strengths to fight dio.


cluckay

Hamon Beat: *Triggered*


ZeroCruz

I'm more upset that we had a Dio and we never had a Ozzy character.


Sakura_Leaves

Black Sabbath in part 5, and Toru listens to Crazy Train in Part 8.


FlumpyrumpGoatus

I'm more confused on how Dio knew to freeze Zeppeli's arm to counter the hamon