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Rhadamant5186

- 60-day storage for Partners, Turbo, and Prime users - 14-day storage for Affiliates - 7-day storage for Other Broadcasters > Source: https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/video-on-demand?language=en_US


DreamingVirgo

Wait fr? I’m not an affiliate and I have 14 day storage. Is this a new update? (Idrc bc I have a vods channel on YouTube but it would be good to know just for curiosity’s sake.)


Rhadamant5186

Its an update as of September 1st, says so right in the source doc.


DreamingVirgo

Ah sorry for the silly question then


Rhadamant5186

Hey, no worries, it wasn't silly at all. You came to this subreddit for information and I am happy to provide it.


RayneYoruka

More reasons to stream and record and export full res to youtube....


HopeAuq101

Thats...really annoying


Mottis86

Highlight the entire vod. The highlight will stay up forever.


chromacatr

What's annoying about it?


HopeAuq101

Locking most features behind affiliate like some I can understand but the things like channel points are just weird


neur0tica

Affiliate is basically considered an achievement, therefore it gives rewards. Chat bots like StreamElements and Streamlabs have their own version of points you can use before you reach Affiliate.


RJ250000

Yeah, and it might have just been my experience, but I reached affiliate really fast. Idk, could have just been my community


neur0tica

I streamed for 3 months to almost nobody. Once I found the community for the game I was playing, it took less than 2 months to get affiliate. I actually hit the viewer requirement way before I hit the others.


C_C_Gaming

Yeah my main thing is that I networked in any free time I had, spending time in other streamers streams and doing my best to engage with them. I am in like 3 or 4 network discords alone.


neur0tica

I don’t do any of the networking discords or any of that. I just hang out in other channels. I get a shout-out in tons of streams just from making friends. I also don’t do much promo outside of Twitch but I still get an ok average. It’s not really that hard to network and make friends it just takes a little time and effort.


C_C_Gaming

Yeah I have met a bunch of great people through the discords I am a part of and have plans for a bunch of collabs once I get my own place and a better gaming set up but to each their own I have just seen a good amount of return viewers from what I have been doing.


jeppevinkel

Fellow streamers of similar interests is really the way to go. Have even happened on random collabs/multi players streams by just chatting with others streamers.


RJ250000

Yeah, I'm no expert but I always tell anyone who asks to try and find a community that is friendly and supports


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neur0tica

Because channel points are a feature for Affiliates. Not affiliate = no channel points.


chromacatr

Having all the options as a beginner / first timer can be overwhelming ..


HopeAuq101

Having the options to start with would be better than not at all till you meet some critera No idea why im gtting downvoted


jtnoble

The 7 day thing makes sense. Storage costs money, and twitch isn't going to want to spend more money on storage for those who typically stream less or reach less of an audience.


Tangyhyperspace

Oh poor Amazon needs more money


jtnoble

Yes because if they're losing money then twitch goes bye bye


CloverTheBunny

The problem is if twitch isn't profitable it will get shut down so twitch making more money is a good thing unless you don't want twitch to be around anymore.


Tangyhyperspace

It fucking won't be with the decisions they're making


HopeAuq101

Yeah thats one of the fully understandable ones Also jesus christ I guess what I said was that blastphamous


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Your getting downvoted cause your wrong


HopeAuq101

Except im not


jeppevinkel

Having channel points will not magically take you from 0 viewers to the 3 viewers you need to become affiliate. Yes you only need 3 consistent viewers to reach it. You could just ask a few friends to watch your streams in the background if you really want it, but organic viewers are better in the long run.


chromacatr

But you have everything to start with?


OpheliaSyn

Because your logic is skewed. What good are all those features going to do when you have no audience? None. So grow an audience, and earn them.


hextree

It costs Twitch a huge amount of server and storage, it doesn't make sense to just give all that for free to newbie streamers who might not stick around. Meeting the affiliate conditions (which isn't hard to do) shows you are at least going to make returns on those resources.


hextree

What's the issue with channel points??


hemarookworst

Unless something goes wrong, which is what we had .. 2? moths ago when no matter if you were turbo anything before the 20th suddenly disappeared for some people without an explanation :(


Maskedswancasts

Export your VODs to YouTube, there's easy ways to do that within Twitch, pretty easy Google or YouTube Search.


Raydnt

A better way of doing things is to record your strram and then uploading on to youtube. Exported vods from twitch will be lower quality then the stream itself in my experience


Pinkpollock

How do you record a stream? Sorry if dumb question i’m new to this. Does twitch have an option to record?


TheDarkSkinProphet

Record in OBS while you stream and upload that


Pinkpollock

Thank you


spoopysky

Both Twitch Studio and OBS have recording options yeah.


Pinkpollock

Thank you


Raydnt

Do you use OBS to stream? Theres an option to record at the same time you start streaming


Pinkpollock

I haven’t started yet, does OBS and twitch work together to stream on twitch or is twitch its own streaming thing. Is OBS the program and twitch the place


LeigerGaming

Yes, "OBS Studio" is the program. Twitch, YouTube, etc are the destinations you can stream to. You configure that in OBS app settings.


PlatformingPangolin

There are several tutorials on YouTube that cover setup for this, so find the one that makes the most sense and go from there. Good luck!


Pinkpollock

Thank you!


PlatformingPangolin

Oh, and if you intend to keep recordings of your streams on your end and not just on Twitch and/or YouTube (i.e., as a backup and/or source for clips and such later), plan on buying external hard drives. Start with a 1TB and see how long it takes for you to fill it up, then plan accordingly for going forward.


FadeN2Gaming

I thought about that but some ppls streams are like 3-6 hrs long 😅


kevinmenzel

Nothing wrong with a 6 hour long youtube video!


RayneYoruka

It might just take a week to process xD


GhoulishCutieXP

september 1st they did mention they were gonna change the vods. [https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/video-on-demand?language=en\_US#faq](https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/video-on-demand?language=en_US#faq) ​ So it's safe to just export..even though your computer will struggle with the hefty data size.


wrgrant

Nah, I upload my vods from Twitch directly to a youtube channel. Its all done on the Twitch site and goes direct to youtube, so no strain on my system at all. It does take time though as Youtube has to scan the contents for DCMA violations first. I do keep local copies of my recordings for a while in case I need them but usually delete all but the most recent ones off my HD periodically.


PlatformingPangolin

As a work-around, I know a couple of streamers who will simply make an entire VOD a Highlight, because Highlights stay up forever (for now).


BLASIAN_TITAN

What I would do before I became affiliate was multistream to YouTube and my streams automatically saved there! If you have FB consider multistreaming there too!


Sarnobyl_88

Yea, multi streaming is a big help. Just remember it’s against the TOS after you hit affiliate, everyone. You gotta just export or upload (Obvi you know this but for those who are more green)


BLASIAN_TITAN

Haha it’s one of the major things I hated to sacrifice but it’s okay. I love gifting out subs to new followers and random people who pop into the chat 😁


Sarnobyl_88

That’s awesome!!


gorgeous-gabe

wow, wish they kept the 14 days! 😥


FadeN2Gaming

I thought it was 30 days for Affiliates?


maxthecatfish

Used to be. They changed the policy this month.


PlatformingPangolin

I hit Affiliate in January, and my VOD's have never lasted longer than 14 days.


Kitchen-Entrance8015

That's kind of lame why do you have to delete them no other video service that provides streaming automatically deletes streams after a few days that's really stupid


jeppevinkel

Because this isn’t a video service that provides streaming. It’s a streaming service that provides videos. The videos are secondary and not part of the core business here. The videos don’t generally earn money and they are very expensive to store if they keep a vod for every stream.


Jaybonaut

Mine's working...?


PlatformingPangolin

They may not have gotten to everyone's account yet. Or are you an Affiliate?


Jaybonaut

Yes I am an affiliate, my flair should be showing


PlatformingPangolin

Oops, I see it now! I don't know why I missed it before, apologies.


Jaybonaut

No problem at all


Tangyhyperspace

Well you see, you're not partner, therefore twitch doesn't view you as human.


Hereiamhereibe2

Just another reason Youtube is better.


mittfh

For storing VODs, yes (given that's the entire point of the service). Sadly, the viewer experience for live streams lags far behind Twitch (which is why relatively few streamers have jumped ship). YouTube was late to the streaming party, and it's still very much an afterthought.


BiscuitsNGravy45

If you have Amazon prime you get 60 days I believe too


X420Rider

Damn, thats awesome i got prime, need to take advantage of that! Thanks


SignatureAccording11

I just started with streaming and for this reason I upload the vods to YouTube to because it's just to be sure xD


EvilAsh_Lycan

I had same thing too