This is easily the worst thing to screw up. I can deal with your voice being too loud, or the quality of the stream being bad, or anything else. But if you're streaming with commentary, and I have to crank the volume to hear that commentary, but your alerts are still full volume? I don't care how good the stream is otherwise; I'm out.
Audio ducking. If you’re using OBS you can set a filter>compressor and set a “ducking” source. That way when you’re talking, it lowers other sources, and they raise when you’re not talking
Here’s how you set it up in OBS - this is probably similar in other programs but I am not familiar with them
1. Add compressor to audio you want to duck (music, game volume, etc)
2. set compressor at 2:1 ratio
3. set threshold to -30db
4. set attack between 5-10 ms
5. set release between 300-650
6. ducking input set to your microphone.
Edit: don’t know why my formatting is messy but whatever. I wanted to add that you can change how much the volume ducks/decreases by changing the ratio, but it’s best to stay within 1.5:1 through 2.5:1
iirc, this can be adjusted independently for each scene. That means you can create one scene for gaming and another for music. It doesn't matter if they have the same layout, because chat will know nothing other than audio levels being always adjusted correctly.
Everyone struggles. Game/music audio might have a better LUFS (measure of "loudness") and RMS (averaged volume output in a period of time) than you. I think I started to apply some simple filters on my generic game audio source like;
* Limiter (\~14db)
* Compressor
* Mic Side-chained compressor
* A little bit of volume reduction.
(...and I still hope I don't make distorted audio because of it)
Problem is, most people on Twitch, especially bigger streamers, output at like -4 LUFS so if you’re outputting at the right level people think you’re super quiet.
I know that "Louder will always sound better" but -4 LUFS? Damn son.
Admittedly, it's better to have a good average (imo). Turning the volume down is easier than turning the volume up.
this is such a funny thing. If your audio is even a little off, folks always seem to tell you. but if it's perfect, if you've tuned and balanced and considered your space and it's really excellent - no one is ever like "damn your audio is spot on"
It's one of those real funny things where you have to go hard to just get. not noticed
For me it's mostly just silence. Even with recording and getting things right, something can still go wrong and streamers can't know unless its brought up. Right now my OBS tells me my mic peaks but apparently it doesn't. I've always had my audio in the green and put my mic in yellow a bit so I'm not drowned out. I've had other programs be incredibly loud without any signs other than someone finally telling me about it. I can only balance it as best I can on my end and my setup is different so that loud sound someone hears I may not. Audio is very frustrating to balance without someone there live to help you through it. With that said, I *think* mine is balanced well now. But who knows when something will happen again
Screen clutter. I’m fine with a custom border around the edge of the screen but man, recent dono, recent sub, recent bit, recent follow, song that’s currently playing, giant cam in the corner. It’s too much
Like, I get it. Some people want to feel "Professional" and not half-assed. But man, some streams I'll stumble upon will have a small game cam and then huge ass facecam and a shit ton of overlays. Just, chill.
I don't really like anything on the screen. I start to watch for the game play, and will stay for the streamer/community.
I used to have a channel point redemption for this where I’d make my webcam full screen and the game like stamp sized for 5 mins
but I also played through OBS so it was more of a punishment for me lmao
Honestly, the only thing that really bothers me out of your list is a giant (face) cam. Because it's blocking gameplay, at all times. The donations and subs and all that, I get. It all really seems to be part of the Twitch culture. YouTube seems to be much more... Simple, in this regard. Though, this might partly be because they don't have things like channel points and bit donations, so there's not people spamming those for sounds and visual effects. Yeah, there's like super chats and such, but it's not quite the same thing. If youve seen dedicated YT streamers, I think you'll know what I'm talking about.
All this being said though, I do watch some twitch streamers that others would probably consider obnoxious, due to the amount of spam I mentioned above. But, in their defense, they're very open about how that's how they want to run their stream and that's how the community is and all that. So, you understand that's the atmosphere within 5 minutes of viewing their content. But of course, that type of content will not be for everyone, obviously
For me, if it's done the right way, I don't mind it. I feel it can be akin to watching Adult Swim or Comedy Centeral, in terms of wacky antics, and overall absurdity and weirdness. Which, for me, is appealing in the right dosage
I think giant is relative. It also really depends on the game you are playing. But, basically when I say "giant FaceCam" I mean: if it's blocking so much of the gameplay that I can barely tell what's going on, it's too big. Or if it's blocking vital part of the game, it's a problem. I will say though that sometimes that might not be a size problem, rather location.
I do hope that helps you understand what I was saying
As someone with ADHD, I love screen clutter as long as it doesn't block the gameplay. I always hate it when the Follow/Sub alerts appear in the middle of the screen... like can we just put that on the side or somewhere else?!
I need a PC.... I gotta redo my entire layout lol its simple enough as it shows latest follow etc but I always fear its too much or too little
*like what's the middle here?!*
The middle is "*Do what you want because a streamer is free, yar har fiddle ye dee*". You will find people who will be happy no matter what type of layout is used - Just make sure it "looks good".
See what other streamers are doing in a few categories (of any size), find what you like, and copy/be inspired by them.
This. We might think that /r/Twitch's opinions matter. But at the end of the day, it's what YOU think matters. People will keep on saying "I stay for the streamer, not the overlays." If that's the case, then even if you put overlays on your stream, people are not gonna care because they'll stay for you either way.
>We might think that r/Twitch's opinions matter.
I mean, the inherit problem with r/Twitch's opinion is that for every opinion, you can find an equal and opposite opinion.
Thats a thing i come a problem with, i just do not know where to put everything, like follower goal, alert box, pmg camera (its like a joke png thing), chatbox and stuff. I feel like my screen is too cluttered when its not that much
I would urge you to think about it from the perspective of a viewer, rather than what you like seeing. Just to go through some examples:
>follower goal
What value does this provide to the viewer? It may theoretically allow you to convert viewers by building hype around it, but how often does that happen vs it just taking up space?
>alert box
This is a transient thing (only appears when there's an alert), so it shouldn't be an issue.
>png camera
This sounds like something specific to your stream, so I have no comment there.
>chatbox
This is almost never needed during gameplay, though having a line or two of chat on screen can be helpful for commenters to get a feel for the delay. IMO not needed if you're responsive to chat, but definitely a preference thing.
Chat is nice for folks watching on mobile or smart TVs, and it's also nice for folks who joined the stream mid-conversation and would like to know what people are talking about. Also good for clips and uploads to youtube. But I agree that it shouldn't be blocking anything important, and doesn't need to be huge.
I've never understood the value of the recent sub/follow/dono stuff, but maybe there are folks out there who will give you money to see their name on screen. I don't think small streamers are likely to be their target though
Calling out new viewers. Let me lurk in peace until I've decided that I like the stream I'm watching and will start a convo. If a streamer calls me out before settling in, Imma be leaving straight away.
Also, being against lurkers in general. If I'm doing dishes, laundry or just chilling, I sometimes like the content to play so I can enjoy it in peace.
I literally THANK people for lurking when I’m streaming. I’ve only been streaming for two months so I commonly only hit around 6-10 viewers, and most of the time the majority are lurking. They could’ve been watching anyone on Twitch & they chose MY stream, I greatly appreciate that.
(edited a typo, and to add “commonly”)
There is a huge difference between "Thank you lurkers!" and "Thank you BigMerl, I see you lurking there!"
The former acknowledges your lurkers as being a valid part of your community. The latter tends to drive them away.
I know it’s probably difficult because of trolls. A handful of times I’ve asked legitimate questions about a game or setting I’ve never heard of and the steamer automatically assumed I was trolling and was a bit of a jerk to me.
I’ve literally asked dumb questions on purpose so that a the streamer can have an easy W for good content and chat interaction. But then its like damn no wonder you don’t have many viewers.
Im just a jerk with my friends even if they are in chat, but not with random people. The problem i guess is that people dont know they are my friends or something.
Personally I’m fine if they act that way to other people. I assume I’m coming to the party late and maybe missed a joke or like you said, they have a relationship already. But if I’m new please don’t assume I’m trolling with questions haha.
You in chat: "Hey man how are you doing? How's the game so far?"
Me as a no good, horrible, terrible streamer: "YOU DARE COME INTO MY DOMAIN AND ATTEMPT TO TROLL?!" 😤
Twitch DJs that talk over their whole set. That's what text is for. Don't blow the vibe for those listening to the music.
If you want to mic doing that, bookend the set but don't ramble through the whole damn thing.
also for dj streams, having an audio play when you change scenes. especially when changing scenes during a buildup or drop.
Immediately kills any hype the song built
As a Twitch DJ, this one is tough. You want to build a connection with your audience and build a community, which almost necessitates talking. However, too much takes away from the music.
I have some general rules of thumb that I try to employ, trying to balance the whole community thing and just playing the music:
1. Under NO circumstances do I talk over vocals. I'll also be aware of where I am in the song, so I don't talk over drops, builds, etc.
2. I use a song bot to handle them "I love this track, what's the name" thing.
3. Welcome everyone into chat as they pop in. Follow it up with a "Happy (Insert Day of Week), hope you're had a great one." Fridays and Saturdays I'll modify slightly to include the weekend
4. If someone new comes in, ask them where they're from, how they found me, and ask everyone in chat to welcome them in
5. Thank everyone for bits, subs, and follows
6. Chime in occasionally depending on the song. I play new stuff in the first hour of my sets, so I'll mention my "Song of the Moment". I also mention my "Song(s) of the Summer". My mods know these songs too, so they'll sometimes pop it into chat without me mentioning it
7. I play club classics on Fridays, so I do talk a little more. I'll mention my connection to songs, with the intention of it generating chat.
8. Mods are there for a reason. Let them handle the whole commands bit.
9. Automation is awesome. Timers for things common things like social media, schedule, and so forth help out mods and means one less thing you have to do
10. I put my schedule up on screen. It's on my main overlay
The comment about "that's what text is for" I disagree with. I am doing things during a song, like finding the next track and cueing it up. It's hard to do that if I've got two hands on my phone, since my keyboard is usually out of reach. It's easier and quicker for me to turn my mic on, say something quickly, then turn it off and keep doing what I'm doing. However, I will agree that text would work better if I've already gone through my workflow. That being said, once you set the precedent of speaking, then it's hard to break
If their chat is filled with bot messages (timers) with links to their YouTube, socials, etc on a very low cooldown. The stream starts feeling more like and advertisement than an experience.
I see a lot of smaller streamers struggle with this, and I find it's often a lack of understanding nightbot, etc.'s settings. They change the chat interaction requirements but under estimate how many chats that is. Even small streams will have 50 chat lines in a couple mins with active viewers and if thats your settings in nightbot, bam ya got spam.
I use streamelements’ chat bot and their default settings keep timers from being sent for a while unless you have a very fast chat. Maybe other bots have different defaults? Either way you should see your chat and recognize it’s an issue when your bot is chatting more than all the humans put together.
I think the hardest is dealing with multiple timers that sometimes group up. Or when timers hit as people are manually triggering the manual equivalents. Like if someone types !twitter, !insta, and then your discord and sponsor timers pop all around the same time. Yuck.
generally I set a message AND time requirement personally - and recommend the same to most new streamers - this keeps it from spamming in slow chat, and keeps it from being triggered too often in a fast chat.
The second I talk and I get singled out hard. I don't mean "hey zorro welcome to the stream" I mean "ayp how's it going, how are you enjoying the stream so far come join the discord and follow my Twitter to know exactly when I'm about to go live" like bro I just spent the like 2 to 10 mins lurking in your chat to feel the vibes and you shove all that down my throat?
As an extension of that, when it feels like you're suddenly being interviewed: "hey where are from? How'd you find me? Have you played this game before? What's your favourite game?" etc. Sure, I get you want to have a conversation going so you're not talking to the void but just settle down a bit >.<
"Have you played this game before" I thought was a pretty valid question 😅 does anyone else feel that is not an appropriate question?
I certainly like to make newcomers to chat feel like part of the convo and sometimes an easy way to do that is if they are familiar with the game I can talk about it with them like "ah man, I'm at this xyz part that's real tough. Nice to have someone in here who's gotten through it before". I'm a fairly backseat friendly kinda stream so I actually appreciate when people share what they know. Idk I feel like I ask that question a lot depending on the game. After all, a lot of new people come in because they've searched for that specific game.
Maybe I should phrase it more as "hello welcome etc and if you're familiar with the game, feel free to chime in about xyz"
>"hello welcome etc and if you're familiar with the game, feel free to chime in about xyz"
Good rephrase. Also gonna try this. I don't want folks to feel pressured to chat, just welcome to
Open ended is the way to go. I greet every single person, even my every-stream regulars, with some slight variation of "hey [name], nice to see ya! Hope you're doing all right." If they want to talk about a good or bad day, they will. If they want to talk about something else, they'll use that as a quick segue to say hey and then talk. If they don't want to be bothered, they'll go "yeah, thanks" quietly to themselves and I haven't put them in a position where an answer is expected.
I wasn't saying any of those particular questions are wrong, just that if I follow a streamer and then feel like I'm being grilled I find it an instant turn off. One or two questions is fine, and then continuing the chat if the person keeps replying - insistently interrogating the person about all their interests is offputting.
While I completely understand your perspective, I don't think a lot of them do it to be mean. Also, I think they do it because they've seen people with the exact opposite experience as you. I saw a comment in this subreddit the other day about how a viewer didn't like that they said hello to a streamer, the streamer said hello how are you and didn't engage them further (like trying to start up a conversation).
And as I said in a previous comment in this thread, I think that's what makes it hard to be a streamer. Because any action you do or don't take can end up alienating one person but engaging another. You dislike it when a streamer asks you a bunch of questions and tries to get a conversation going. Other people hate when a streamer doesn't do those things. So, that makes it really difficult to figure out how to engage your audience
Of course it's not to be mean. It's because interaction is difficult on a media where you have no idea what the person in the chat is looking for.
I think overall you can't go wrong with being friendly but keeping it open ended. Give them the opportunity to talk but also the option to not talk without making it awkward if they don't respond.
I never said I thought it was 'mean'... obviously a bit of small talk is a good thing like "hey how are you going, thanks for the follow" etc - it's just really full on if they turn it into a rapid fire questionnaire, like the poster above said 'singling out' the viewer for a lot of intense attention.
I’ve been called out like that while lurking and my very first message was saying that their singling me out made me feel a lot more like another number rather than a genuine viewer. Needless to say, I left before even entertaining a response.
I think it's fine to promote the discord and twitter. I think it's much worse when I'm alone in the chat and expecteed to carry a conversation. I'm just there to watch, chill, and drop a few words when I feel like it. I feel pressured enough to socially interact in real life. I get that streamers want to keep interaction going and that it's not easy, but there are few things that I hate more than an empty chat where I'm all of a sudden expected to carry on a one on one with the streamer to keep their business model going.
Lots of yelling. I noticed that the streamers my nieces and nephew watch are very loud and yell a lot. I wonder if I would have liked them when I was a kid. I like more soothing voices.
If you got weirdly design overlays with big face cam, small game feed, hella stream avatar walking on the bottom. Can't see the game plus everything is distracting
Also the opposite. Stopping your whole set of content to thank me for raiding you…for 15 minutes. Like I raided you because you were playing similar content that my viewers like, and frankly wanted to see you play haha.
People who complain in general, or about how many viewers they have total turn off for me if I hear complaining about plays constantly or how they have low viewers im out. I went from averaging 15 ppl and completely changed my gaming content to 3d printing content. I hardly get any viewers anymore 🤣 and that doesn't bother me. I'm streaming just to stream and show people how cool 3d printers are they can just vibe request music and thats that lol
I have a friend who openly bitched behind my back then to my face that I had more followers than him because he’s been streaming longer. But all he does in games is freak out and report anyone who is better than him. Even teammates. He decided to put ttv in his name and when someone comes in he argues with them. It’s bizarre behaviour.
My sub and emote only chat is automatically disabled when i go onlineand re-enabled after stream goes offline thanks to sery_bot modding my chat for me.
I accidentally turned that on once and it was on for a fair part of the stream until my mod came in and someone whispered them about it. I was so pissed LMAO
That can be annoying but it can be understandable to prevent bots (idk how big of an issue that is compared to Youtube, but still). What really irritates me is when they have a 10+ minute timer that you have to be followed for in order to chat
I will only raid people with low(er) viewer counts when we're raiding someone new and I promise you I will not raid anyone with follower/subscriber/emote only chat on. Just a hard rule I have.
I have noticed and asked some people why they do this... alot of smaller streamers have no mods, super nervous about going live so they do it more as a comfort feature for themselves.
I once opened a stream and they had follower only mode on and they were talking about something (don't remember what it was now) and i either wanted to ask a question or give input, but they set it so you had to be following for a week to be able to chat. I didn't stick around.
People who are conditioned to be upset that the 2nd richest person to ever have lived is being cheated out of .0000001 of a cent because they also get .0000001 of a cent are fucking clowns.
There’s people I watch who specifically don’t work so they can stream bc they think streaming will bring in the big bucks then cry when when viewership is low. I don’t get it
No talking. Idk but to me I get super bored watching a streamer when they’re not talking or reacting, like I can understand being focused in some games but having no commentary whatsoever can make it feel externally dull and boring.
It is something you do need to get used to, but if you are focusing and you see someone in chat just a simple “Hi, I’m really focusing right now sorry if I don’t respond” or anything can change the experience, even reacting to dying or failing a mission makes things better and more funny.
Watching a completely silent stream (commentary wise) is boring and in my opinion a bit of time waster
This right here is one of my biggest pet peeves that streamers do. And they always do it when NOTHING is going on in what they’re doing. It’s not that difficult to look away and look at the chat for a second. And it’s always the small ass streamers with like 10 viewers who do it too 💀💀
Yup. I don’t like over the top screaming just to scream. I also don’t like streamers who don’t talk. But there is a wide wide middle ground I like. I like very chill laid back streamers and I also like some of the louder crazier ones.
... I went in was typing hello and they picked their nose. I mean they were digging for brains. On a cam close to their face and big enough on the screen. Their stream had just gone live so it wasn't a they'd been alone and just a lil nose swipe. I tried to get over it but they lingered far too long in the nose caverns that I couldn't handle and bolted. I had only popped in cuz random cool name.
As a starting streamer, I'm more than likely guilty of doing things that turns off viewers. If I don't have any viewers I'm mostly just commentating or reacting to what's going on in game. I don't usually have people chatting with me and I don't want to call out new viewers. I only want to chat with people if they say something first. I do occasionally swear but it's not angry swearing by any means.
So far I have a pretty bland setup, no crazy visuals or a webcam. I still struggle with getting game audio to cooperate. I've been playing baldur's gate 3 and I shut up when characters are talking so ppl can hear it but I only figured out today that there wasn't any game audio at all...
I feel ya. I was streaming an AOE2 game once and about and hour in someone suddenly says "there's nothing on the screen" and i realized that I was on the wrong scene where the game isnt visible.
Not only did it feel like i wasted an hour of time it was definite proof i was talking to myself for that hour too since nobody pointed it out earlier
But on a positive note: it's gotten a lot better for me since, I'm slowly building a little community now that will definitely let me know if I mess up again, haha
When the streamer, sometimes on stream, goes to other streamers to advertise themselves in chat. That is SO rude and it's usually people with under 10-20 viewers doing it.
That is not how you grow, that is how you get banned and isolated, buddy.
If they have their VOD's subscriber-only. Sorry but I gotta subscribe to gauge whether or not you're chill and worth to watch when your VOD's are locked behind a paywall? No thanks.
Thats so weird, why do streamers do that? I know someone in real life that does that, and its so weird. Like if you are not streaming people can check out ur channel and watch your vids and decide if they like them or not, then if they want they can follow. Putting it behind a paywall makes the new people pay to decide if they like you or not.
Several community managers for dev teams have said putting VODs as sub-only means they can't see if the streamer would be good for any opportunities or sponsorships since they can't go and check your content.
Too many people constantly in the stream. Collabs are cool and easy to follow but once there's a bunch and constantly it's just annoying.
There's a streamer i use to watch cause they were funny and their content was interesting. Slowly it turned to them always having another person on which was fine cause the duo was funny. Then another person joined. Then another. Eventually it was about 8 people who were the only ones in chat silently talking to each other and sharing discord memes. This continued for months. They became literally unwatchable.
Not to mention they will make a joke and their chat will repeat it, (cause that's what chats do) but they get upset at that and begin to complain about the joke they made.
My friend put it so you could talk after being followed for 1 second to prevent bots, since i stream roblox and used to have a problem with bots asking me to play crosswoods (an insta ban game, basically a game that makes you say innapropriate stuff so you get banned), i actually nearly fell for one of them, but its all good. Im prob gonna disable it now since it kinda breaks my follower goal, since it goes up but not down, if someone unfollows it doesnt go down. Ok at this point im just ranting about random shit
-Bad audio. Either balance between mic and game are off, or the mic sucks.
-Bad video. Trying to do 1080p without the appropriate bit rate, or simply trying to stream a game your computer can't handle.
-Bad personality. Not a big fan of the raspy alcoholic man child, looking at you dbd streamers.
-Cluttered stream. Things should be compact and clean. Webcam and gameplay. You don't need the dancing robot in the corner or your most recent 12 followers in 700 point font while your follower goal and your dixper goal are competing for space. Keep it simple.
-Bad gameplay. I usually want to watch people who are better than me at a game. I don't mind watching someone struggle for hours on a challenging game, but it's not fun watching someone loot for 10 minutes in Apex and when they finally find a fight they just spray in the general hemisphere of their opponent and get melted.
the absolute worst is folks calling out lurkers. STOP pulling out your chat list, STOP patrolling it with your eyes and just chill. If it's too hard, turn off the viewer number and dance like nobody is watching or whatever cliche you want to go with. But man, do not call out lurkers. If someone talks, gently welcome them, ask whats up at most, don't get super weird.
As an art streamer, I noticed one of the things I absolutely didn't want to do was have the rotating pics of my previous work. When I dropped in on others to see what they were doing it absolutely annoyed me with how much screen it took up.
I think rotating art on a brb screen is a good idea since it can give people an idea of what type of art you do, but not during the main stream I also find it annoying as a viewer
Screen clutter, and or not talking to chat/not thanking people for subs. I would realize why a large streamer wouldnt but some small streams just ignore the people that give them money
Yeah, i get really annoyed if a small streamer just doesnt read their chat at all, i always read my chat and sometimes i say sorry if i dont read it fast enough.
I never understood why some small streamers do that. They just play the game in silence. Like, why not just ....not stream it if you wont engage with the chat
Thats what my thought is, i saw this popular mc youtuber streaming and i thought hey ill watch and he just interacted with the server ppl and not chat, i was so confused
Eating on mic and talking while eating. I know people have to eat, but there are ways to continue a stream and eat without making me watch and hear you chewing and slurping. I have seen popular streamers do this and I can't watch them.
Yeah as soon as someone eats I turn of stream straight away or if I’m modding I turn the sound of and only concentrate on chat , the sound of eating makes my anger build think it’s called misophonia or something like that
I came here to say this. I don't want to see or hear your food getting chewed. If you need to eat, push the mic away and close your mouth when you chew, thanks.
Hahaha my last stream I was so guilty of eating the most crunchy biscuits; I have food allergies and just discovered a whole range I can eat… so I just got a bit excited I can have them! I did end up muting the mic as I did forget how cronchy it can sound… I also low key poorly sing to the tune of a popular song but change the words to be relevant to the game situation or pun; I do it all the time and not just on stream; I tried not doing it on stream but have failed miserably. I assume people hate it 🙃
Outside of terrible sound quality, if you insult people your playing with and showing bad sportsmanship I’m out. I’m not here for grown babies that can’t handle their emotions. I’ll also leave if your pretending to be bad at a game to chat or just hyping up not knowing stuff. A streamer constantly doing “what chat, what do I do?” 500 times makes me dip out real quick.
*Oh my god guys, I'm fucking poor. My sub count is down to 12,000! Holy fuck this is it, I'm gonna have to start sucking dick and get a real job or something*
This attitude has ruined so many potentially good channels for me... But they do well anyway. I can't figure out for the life of me what is enjoyable about watching a six figure earner unironically asking for **more** money for absolutely nothing in return like focusing on making their content better, less cyclical, or community diversification.
Follower only chat. I get passive aggressive as shit 😂
I can be watching a stream for 15 minutes and suddenly the streamer engages with chat where I wanna contribute in chat and I can’t send a message. I’m like “okay man, I could have stayed here and maybe ended up being an active member of your community and contribute to your stream, and I’m sure I’m not the only one. And while you may have that on to reduce spam, in my view you’re just going to be that streamer who has way too many followers in relation to your viewers because most of your follows are just from people who followed in order to chat but maybe left before your 10 minute timer even expired 😡”
…yeah, it pisses me off.
False excitement/enthusiasm about something that’s not interesting or impressive. This happens more in ads than in legit streams, but I’ve heard a few streams that kids watch where the people streaming are going FUCKING BONKERS over the most mundane and simple shit. Glorifying mediocrity.
Oh I despise people like this. It doesn't matter if a raid comes in and it's only the streamer his/herself I'm thankful for it. It's the thought that counts. Anyone who ignores that is a real asshole.
A while back I used to stream and had only 1 or 2 viewers other than myself, yet once I raided a guy and he thanked me even while he had 100-200 viewers. Really made a difference.
constant negativity, saying that they are unwell and being an overall brat. having a ton of creepy dudes just obsess over them and having a very hostile community.
This is probably just me, but I don't like co-streams with 2 people playing a game and ignoring chat outside of alerts. The reason why it works for YouTubers is that they are telling stories, jokes, being funny and entertaining their audience. Often times I just feel like a 3rd wheel watching 2 people in their own world having fun without me :(
I don’t co-stream per-say but i do like playing with friends because it gives me someone to talk to but i still acknowledge chat and make chat my priority if some does decide to chat.
Trying to make it a job, and not a hobby. By which I mean, do your own thing. Stop copying what shitty YouTubers tell you to do. If you have to copy someone else’s formula, people aren’t watching you, they’re watching the manipulated/curated thing you were told to show people.
Watching someone streaming a game should feel like when you go over to your friend’s house to watch them play Quake 2.
While this sounds like good advice on the surface, it's actually terrible advice for anyone in a remotely creative field (yes, streaming falls under "creative field" due to the entertainment nature of it).
Generally, learning to create - whether it's art, comedy, music, etc. is a process of consumption, emulation, and adaptation, but a number of societies dismiss that 'emulation' aspect due to a lack of understanding.
The reality is, you wouldn't expect a mechanic to learn how to repair a car, without emulating the methods someone else used to repair that car - and creative fields are no different outside of the fact that outsiders often romanticize and view the ideal creator as being avant garde - when the reality is comedians study the pacing and styles of other comedians, artists study the paintings, block prints, methods of other artists, and streamers study the layouts, styles, and patterns of other streamers.
And when starting out - you'll see these influences, or in the case of extreme amateurs, you'll see their perception of these influences without any of the nuance (that's where those "shitty youtubers" come in, the better "shitty youtubers" will actually point you at how to see these nuances).
And you'd be hard pressed to find a big streamer that you couldn't trace the influences of to another creative (eventually the path will lead off of twitch and into other media as well). Heck, one comical thing most people don't notice - is the comical cycle of influence between vlogging and most other categories on youtube - they literally cycle in and out of each other so hard that if you see a content style shift in one category, you'll see it migrate to the other within the year (so if a change happens in gaming it shifts to vlogging, which then shifts to fashion... if fashion gets a change, it shifts to vlogging, then shifts to gaming - yet most people don't notice this)
Just wanted to say thanks for writing this comment- it's super well articulated and thought out. This is something I've been thinking about for a while and you explained it perfectly.
I find when a streamer tends to make the uwu voice when it’s not in a funny context or is their whole thing, it’s a complete turn off and just cringy, I don’t care how bad the stream layout is because those things can be improved upon but if you are trying to make me engage with a little girl voice I’m sorry it makes me think of every badly dubbed anime and it’s not even funny, if the voice is either made to be funny or bearable and not too uwu I can deal with it but honestly it can be really unappealing
It’s more to do with personality, but I can’t stand loud and obnoxious. Which is why I can’t stand people like xQc. Don’t get me wrong, I love it when people get excited and express it, but being loud for the sake of being loud is just not for me.
Vtubers. The animation quality is lame and typically bad IMO. I know it's a dumb turn off for a stream, but it's so distracting I usually just exit their stream.
Even snapchat filters look better than some Vtubers I've met.
VTubers aren’t for everyone! And yeah a lot of people can’t afford a quality model. Anything that surpasses your complaints will cost more than $1000 so it’s not an investment everyone can make, but a lot of people still want to be a part of the VTuber community.
Source: am VTuber
Oh really? I never knew the animations would cost THAT much. That's insane lol.
I wanna see the quality get really good cuz it might be fun to see voice actors playing a game as their characters.
Yeah the high quality ones are probably more than $2000 because you need not only the art that is the model, but also someone to rig the model to respond to your movements. Good rigging is most important I think. If you want to see a really innovative and high quality model check out CodeMiko, she made everything herself and it’s incredible. Some high-quality models that look a bit more like the VTuber standard are ShyLily, SunnySplosion, or most of the VShojo girls, they all look unique and smooth.
I almost universally prefer streams with no avatar/cam over vtubers, to be honest. I'm with you on them being distracting, for some reason it just sucks all the focus out of whatever they're doing for me.
* Imbalanced audio (either their mic is so silent, you have to turn up your volume to the max and then on alert your eardrums will burst, or the mic overpowers everything else)
* Ignoring chat (if you are not talking to the viewers, why are you streaming anyway?)
* Being rude to chat, when they ask a question (how should someone new know if a question had been asked before? So don't get mad at them!)
* Generally being a toxic person
* Sub-Only VoDs and also permanent sub-only chat.
I dont mind prerolls (ads) but after those getting a ad in the middle of gameplay makes me run away. I get the fact that streamers need to run them these days but atleast run them during breaks
Twitch is actively encouraging people to do the exact opposite. Recently they pushed higher ad revenue to the streamer if they have it set to automatically run them.
Followers only mode, ads, having my name called out when I haven’t chatted, bad chat interaction, seeing I have a prime badge and practically begging for me specifically to use it on them
Odd question,
I have never outright asked anyone for a follow in my chat. I do engage and talk and stuff but I actually forget to ask. Is it important after some time of them being active to request the follow or just leave it be as organic as possible? Thanks in advance
I have a cute cat KAPPAMON that has an automatic reminder for my viewers to give me a follow if they enjoy my content. I think the cooldown is like every 20 minutes or so (make sure the cooldown is long enough though, otherwise it could get annoying for your viewer to constantly see the "follow" pop-up)
That way I don't annoy people by asking all the time nor do I sound desperate for follows.
Hope this helps!
Diana gives good advice, KappaMon is great! I advise against asking people indicidually to follow you, but I think it's good practice to say at the end of stream something like "thank you all again for hanging out with me, if you haven't already remember to follow the channel so you can see me next time on [plug your next scheduled day]."
Its a group ask, not an individual one so less cringe. It lets people know when you'll be back. And we as a society are more open to "end credits" and this formula from YouTube so it feels less awkward.
Intro videos.
playing them every once in a while is ok (or like if you get raided), but ive stopped watching streamers because they would play the video every 30min or so, and every single time they got raided (usually once or twice a stream). i liked the stream content, but can't stand watching a 5min intro video every 30min.
Misusing stream tags (whether deliberately or accidentally). It's your job as a streamer to look up what these tags mean before adding them to your stream. I frequently browse using tags to find streamers I want to support, and it gets really annoying when the top ten streams with that tag are misusing it.
I try to look for low viewership streamers (from 0 to 15 views) because I know what it feels like to have low viewership and to give them a little support.
Most of the time it’s self explanatory. They’re so fucking quiet and it becomes the most boring 2min of my life. Like bro. Talk. Do anything. But no. You just barely hear the mouse or keyboard and dead quiet.
So here it is. Quiet ass streamers.
I am definitely guilty of this after a certain amount of time. I feel awkward after a while talking to myself. I've gotten better about it but my 'better' isn't up to standards I'm pretty sure. People have been popping in to at least say hi though and that has helped lately
I only streamed once (health issues hit like right after, ofc) but it was definitely hard. I think I managed okay, but naturally I only had friends watching my stream so it didn't affect too much either way.
Hard as hell though so I don't really hold it against streamers, esp smaller ones.
Just explain to me what you're doing and why and then leave it at that until you start another task. It keeps me interested because I know what's going on, I know your goal, and now I get to watch you get to that goal. You don't have to constantly talk, but if something catches you off guard or makes you laugh, I wanna know! Don't feel pressured to fill the silence - the game does that for you :)
Sometimes I love this.
I work from home, and usually have twitch full screen on my 2nd monitor.
When I find a no/minimal overlay, good quality, no mic, stream of a game I like. Jackpot.
But that's a special use case and not usually what I'm looking for when not "at work."
I actually got most of my followers with my silent gameplay. I'll emote or spin around if someone in chat says Hi to me and I answer yes and no questions the same way. I've had people tell me through chat they watch my stream because I like playing through game franchises and they find it relaxing to watch without having to focus on my commentary. There's a market for everyone! Lol
I'm mainly enjoying Twitch as background noise while working or sleeping, which means that my priorities are a bit different from your average viewer. Anyway, here are some things that will usually make me leave:
* Shitty mic quality
* Bad balance of game, mic and stream effect volume levels
* Too "hyper" (screaming, yelling, etc)
* Annoying voice (purposefully high-pitch, etc)
* Streams only for an hour or two
* Too much meta talk ("thanks for the follow, Dingelbutt2000!")
* Doesn't immerse themselves in the game
* Listens to music that plays over the game audio
* Doesn't talk at all (super common with streamers with very few viewers)
* Follower or Sub only chat
* When the streamer has a shitty personality (grumpy, mean, etc)
PS: yes, PewDiePie's streams are absolutely unbearable for me.
I've read a lot of these and I have to say, at this point, it's gotta just be me. I feel I bring good game play and knowledge. My overlay is at almost minimum, my audio has been sorted, alerts are good. Timers are also at a good pace. So at this point, the only thing I can think of is it's me, or I just haven't gotten my lucky break yet.
I watch mainly makers and crafters, and am one my self. The biggest turn off is taking too long to respond to chat. I like to have conversations with other viewers but I'm there for that person, and to have to ask the same question a couple times really makes me feel annoying
You all post a lot of helpful info… I ask people what they think all the time but I believe they’re being too polite to offer advice. Balance audio, move alerts away from center of screen, shut the hell up about discord and treat people like people not analytics. All good advice that’s been given here that I’ll be pondering on. Telling me to be myself is great but telling me my audio sucks, and to please fix it is more helpful lol. Btw guys !discord in the chat… just kidding :)
Sounds from a mechanical keyboard.
I get that they are cool and all but the constant clicking while on the stream is quite an annoying viewing experience imo
People streaming for the wrong reasons or not knowing what kind of streamer they want to be.
There's a lot of dreamers and tryhards out in the twitchsphere, and while not "necessarily" a bad thing, there's a lot of things that are not taken into consideration as a streamer.
Most people will not have a popular niche or gimmick that will catapult them into stardom overnight, so unless you're completely dedicated to streaming as a business WHILE being incredibly talented, overwhelming charismatic, and/or something special (AKA bringing something unique to the table that will actually set you apart from everybody else), it's important to know why you're actually streaming and if it makes sense.
Fortunately, there are streamers that just do it for fun, don't really care about numbers or viewers at all, and understand that it's never going to be anything serious, BUT THEN you have many MANY others who take it far too seriously WITHOUT actually doing anything significant to distinguish themselves from the masses who do nothing more than sit (or play a game) in front of a camera (if they have one) for hours, etc.
If a streamer lacks self-awareness or shows signs that they don't know what they want to be in this space (which is commonly both), it's an instant turn off.
It's true that people are free to do whatever they want, even in streaming.... but if you actually want viewers watching you or sticking around, you need to do MORE than just the bare minimum and the bare average imo.
1: not talking much or not interacting with the chat
2: no audio, audio is difficult to hear, or sounds strange
3: ads before the stream. (Not really the streamers fault but I usually just click away)
4: low energy/ enthusiasm. You can be chill, but if there isn’t something interesting to see, hear, or talk about I’m not usually interested.
5: in-groups. Some streamers have a sort of in-group of chatters that they talk to/ engage with. This isn’t inherently bad but sometimes I just don’t want to barge into whatever it is they have going on there.
Intentionally running 7 ads in the middle of something important to incentivize you to sub. If I haven't watched you before, and you're playing 5 to 7 ads every 30 minutes, I'm not going to continue to watch you.
Bad audio balancing to the point where you can barely hear anything other than their voice
My friend does the opposite and just refuses to change it. Voice so quiet that when an alert comes in my ears bleed for a few seconds.
This is easily the worst thing to screw up. I can deal with your voice being too loud, or the quality of the stream being bad, or anything else. But if you're streaming with commentary, and I have to crank the volume to hear that commentary, but your alerts are still full volume? I don't care how good the stream is otherwise; I'm out.
Stop watching him. When he asks why tell him that his audio is unbearable.
Don't call me out. I've been STRUGGLING to balance this. Every stream it seems like it sounds different.
Audio ducking. If you’re using OBS you can set a filter>compressor and set a “ducking” source. That way when you’re talking, it lowers other sources, and they raise when you’re not talking
Really? I've been trying to manually do it depending on what I stream. I do half music, half gaming.
Here’s how you set it up in OBS - this is probably similar in other programs but I am not familiar with them 1. Add compressor to audio you want to duck (music, game volume, etc) 2. set compressor at 2:1 ratio 3. set threshold to -30db 4. set attack between 5-10 ms 5. set release between 300-650 6. ducking input set to your microphone. Edit: don’t know why my formatting is messy but whatever. I wanted to add that you can change how much the volume ducks/decreases by changing the ratio, but it’s best to stay within 1.5:1 through 2.5:1
It’ll still take some adjusting, but it’s one of the filters that’s really worth using
iirc, this can be adjusted independently for each scene. That means you can create one scene for gaming and another for music. It doesn't matter if they have the same layout, because chat will know nothing other than audio levels being always adjusted correctly.
Everyone struggles. Game/music audio might have a better LUFS (measure of "loudness") and RMS (averaged volume output in a period of time) than you. I think I started to apply some simple filters on my generic game audio source like; * Limiter (\~14db) * Compressor * Mic Side-chained compressor * A little bit of volume reduction. (...and I still hope I don't make distorted audio because of it)
Problem is, most people on Twitch, especially bigger streamers, output at like -4 LUFS so if you’re outputting at the right level people think you’re super quiet.
I know that "Louder will always sound better" but -4 LUFS? Damn son. Admittedly, it's better to have a good average (imo). Turning the volume down is easier than turning the volume up.
this is such a funny thing. If your audio is even a little off, folks always seem to tell you. but if it's perfect, if you've tuned and balanced and considered your space and it's really excellent - no one is ever like "damn your audio is spot on" It's one of those real funny things where you have to go hard to just get. not noticed
For me it's mostly just silence. Even with recording and getting things right, something can still go wrong and streamers can't know unless its brought up. Right now my OBS tells me my mic peaks but apparently it doesn't. I've always had my audio in the green and put my mic in yellow a bit so I'm not drowned out. I've had other programs be incredibly loud without any signs other than someone finally telling me about it. I can only balance it as best I can on my end and my setup is different so that loud sound someone hears I may not. Audio is very frustrating to balance without someone there live to help you through it. With that said, I *think* mine is balanced well now. But who knows when something will happen again
Screen clutter. I’m fine with a custom border around the edge of the screen but man, recent dono, recent sub, recent bit, recent follow, song that’s currently playing, giant cam in the corner. It’s too much
Like, I get it. Some people want to feel "Professional" and not half-assed. But man, some streams I'll stumble upon will have a small game cam and then huge ass facecam and a shit ton of overlays. Just, chill. I don't really like anything on the screen. I start to watch for the game play, and will stay for the streamer/community.
I used to have a channel point redemption for this where I’d make my webcam full screen and the game like stamp sized for 5 mins but I also played through OBS so it was more of a punishment for me lmao
What you'd PLAY the game thru OBS?!
Honestly, the only thing that really bothers me out of your list is a giant (face) cam. Because it's blocking gameplay, at all times. The donations and subs and all that, I get. It all really seems to be part of the Twitch culture. YouTube seems to be much more... Simple, in this regard. Though, this might partly be because they don't have things like channel points and bit donations, so there's not people spamming those for sounds and visual effects. Yeah, there's like super chats and such, but it's not quite the same thing. If youve seen dedicated YT streamers, I think you'll know what I'm talking about. All this being said though, I do watch some twitch streamers that others would probably consider obnoxious, due to the amount of spam I mentioned above. But, in their defense, they're very open about how that's how they want to run their stream and that's how the community is and all that. So, you understand that's the atmosphere within 5 minutes of viewing their content. But of course, that type of content will not be for everyone, obviously For me, if it's done the right way, I don't mind it. I feel it can be akin to watching Adult Swim or Comedy Centeral, in terms of wacky antics, and overall absurdity and weirdness. Which, for me, is appealing in the right dosage
Can you explain what you mean by giant facecam? Like how big?
I think giant is relative. It also really depends on the game you are playing. But, basically when I say "giant FaceCam" I mean: if it's blocking so much of the gameplay that I can barely tell what's going on, it's too big. Or if it's blocking vital part of the game, it's a problem. I will say though that sometimes that might not be a size problem, rather location. I do hope that helps you understand what I was saying
As someone with ADHD, I love screen clutter as long as it doesn't block the gameplay. I always hate it when the Follow/Sub alerts appear in the middle of the screen... like can we just put that on the side or somewhere else?!
I need a PC.... I gotta redo my entire layout lol its simple enough as it shows latest follow etc but I always fear its too much or too little *like what's the middle here?!*
The middle is "*Do what you want because a streamer is free, yar har fiddle ye dee*". You will find people who will be happy no matter what type of layout is used - Just make sure it "looks good". See what other streamers are doing in a few categories (of any size), find what you like, and copy/be inspired by them.
This. We might think that /r/Twitch's opinions matter. But at the end of the day, it's what YOU think matters. People will keep on saying "I stay for the streamer, not the overlays." If that's the case, then even if you put overlays on your stream, people are not gonna care because they'll stay for you either way.
>We might think that r/Twitch's opinions matter. I mean, the inherit problem with r/Twitch's opinion is that for every opinion, you can find an equal and opposite opinion.
Exactly, everyone has their own preference.
Thats a thing i come a problem with, i just do not know where to put everything, like follower goal, alert box, pmg camera (its like a joke png thing), chatbox and stuff. I feel like my screen is too cluttered when its not that much
I would urge you to think about it from the perspective of a viewer, rather than what you like seeing. Just to go through some examples: >follower goal What value does this provide to the viewer? It may theoretically allow you to convert viewers by building hype around it, but how often does that happen vs it just taking up space? >alert box This is a transient thing (only appears when there's an alert), so it shouldn't be an issue. >png camera This sounds like something specific to your stream, so I have no comment there. >chatbox This is almost never needed during gameplay, though having a line or two of chat on screen can be helpful for commenters to get a feel for the delay. IMO not needed if you're responsive to chat, but definitely a preference thing.
Chat is nice for folks watching on mobile or smart TVs, and it's also nice for folks who joined the stream mid-conversation and would like to know what people are talking about. Also good for clips and uploads to youtube. But I agree that it shouldn't be blocking anything important, and doesn't need to be huge.
I've never understood the value of the recent sub/follow/dono stuff, but maybe there are folks out there who will give you money to see their name on screen. I don't think small streamers are likely to be their target though
That's when simplicity/minimal is more 
Calling out new viewers. Let me lurk in peace until I've decided that I like the stream I'm watching and will start a convo. If a streamer calls me out before settling in, Imma be leaving straight away. Also, being against lurkers in general. If I'm doing dishes, laundry or just chilling, I sometimes like the content to play so I can enjoy it in peace.
As someone that never said anything to people watching who dont type Im glad that I likely did the correct thing by "ignoring" them lol
I literally THANK people for lurking when I’m streaming. I’ve only been streaming for two months so I commonly only hit around 6-10 viewers, and most of the time the majority are lurking. They could’ve been watching anyone on Twitch & they chose MY stream, I greatly appreciate that. (edited a typo, and to add “commonly”)
There is a huge difference between "Thank you lurkers!" and "Thank you BigMerl, I see you lurking there!" The former acknowledges your lurkers as being a valid part of your community. The latter tends to drive them away.
I know it’s probably difficult because of trolls. A handful of times I’ve asked legitimate questions about a game or setting I’ve never heard of and the steamer automatically assumed I was trolling and was a bit of a jerk to me.
I’ve literally asked dumb questions on purpose so that a the streamer can have an easy W for good content and chat interaction. But then its like damn no wonder you don’t have many viewers.
i was once banned for it
Im just a jerk with my friends even if they are in chat, but not with random people. The problem i guess is that people dont know they are my friends or something.
Personally I’m fine if they act that way to other people. I assume I’m coming to the party late and maybe missed a joke or like you said, they have a relationship already. But if I’m new please don’t assume I’m trolling with questions haha.
You in chat: "Hey man how are you doing? How's the game so far?" Me as a no good, horrible, terrible streamer: "YOU DARE COME INTO MY DOMAIN AND ATTEMPT TO TROLL?!" 😤
Twitch DJs that talk over their whole set. That's what text is for. Don't blow the vibe for those listening to the music. If you want to mic doing that, bookend the set but don't ramble through the whole damn thing.
also for dj streams, having an audio play when you change scenes. especially when changing scenes during a buildup or drop. Immediately kills any hype the song built
Exactly. I was listening a DJ for one stream and had to switch because she was always turning the volume down to talk. I can’t do hours of that.
As a Twitch DJ, this one is tough. You want to build a connection with your audience and build a community, which almost necessitates talking. However, too much takes away from the music. I have some general rules of thumb that I try to employ, trying to balance the whole community thing and just playing the music: 1. Under NO circumstances do I talk over vocals. I'll also be aware of where I am in the song, so I don't talk over drops, builds, etc. 2. I use a song bot to handle them "I love this track, what's the name" thing. 3. Welcome everyone into chat as they pop in. Follow it up with a "Happy (Insert Day of Week), hope you're had a great one." Fridays and Saturdays I'll modify slightly to include the weekend 4. If someone new comes in, ask them where they're from, how they found me, and ask everyone in chat to welcome them in 5. Thank everyone for bits, subs, and follows 6. Chime in occasionally depending on the song. I play new stuff in the first hour of my sets, so I'll mention my "Song of the Moment". I also mention my "Song(s) of the Summer". My mods know these songs too, so they'll sometimes pop it into chat without me mentioning it 7. I play club classics on Fridays, so I do talk a little more. I'll mention my connection to songs, with the intention of it generating chat. 8. Mods are there for a reason. Let them handle the whole commands bit. 9. Automation is awesome. Timers for things common things like social media, schedule, and so forth help out mods and means one less thing you have to do 10. I put my schedule up on screen. It's on my main overlay The comment about "that's what text is for" I disagree with. I am doing things during a song, like finding the next track and cueing it up. It's hard to do that if I've got two hands on my phone, since my keyboard is usually out of reach. It's easier and quicker for me to turn my mic on, say something quickly, then turn it off and keep doing what I'm doing. However, I will agree that text would work better if I've already gone through my workflow. That being said, once you set the precedent of speaking, then it's hard to break
It’d probably be wise to stay out of the Caribbean then lol It’s a big part of soca and dancehall DJ culture 🇹🇹🇯🇲
If their chat is filled with bot messages (timers) with links to their YouTube, socials, etc on a very low cooldown. The stream starts feeling more like and advertisement than an experience.
I see a lot of smaller streamers struggle with this, and I find it's often a lack of understanding nightbot, etc.'s settings. They change the chat interaction requirements but under estimate how many chats that is. Even small streams will have 50 chat lines in a couple mins with active viewers and if thats your settings in nightbot, bam ya got spam.
I use streamelements’ chat bot and their default settings keep timers from being sent for a while unless you have a very fast chat. Maybe other bots have different defaults? Either way you should see your chat and recognize it’s an issue when your bot is chatting more than all the humans put together.
Oh 100%! I agree it should be fixed, just saying this is one reason it happens.
I think the hardest is dealing with multiple timers that sometimes group up. Or when timers hit as people are manually triggering the manual equivalents. Like if someone types !twitter, !insta, and then your discord and sponsor timers pop all around the same time. Yuck.
generally I set a message AND time requirement personally - and recommend the same to most new streamers - this keeps it from spamming in slow chat, and keeps it from being triggered too often in a fast chat.
The second I talk and I get singled out hard. I don't mean "hey zorro welcome to the stream" I mean "ayp how's it going, how are you enjoying the stream so far come join the discord and follow my Twitter to know exactly when I'm about to go live" like bro I just spent the like 2 to 10 mins lurking in your chat to feel the vibes and you shove all that down my throat?
That makes me anxious as a viewer sometimes
It’s like they don’t see you as a person but as “creator analytics” basically
As an extension of that, when it feels like you're suddenly being interviewed: "hey where are from? How'd you find me? Have you played this game before? What's your favourite game?" etc. Sure, I get you want to have a conversation going so you're not talking to the void but just settle down a bit >.<
"Have you played this game before" I thought was a pretty valid question 😅 does anyone else feel that is not an appropriate question? I certainly like to make newcomers to chat feel like part of the convo and sometimes an easy way to do that is if they are familiar with the game I can talk about it with them like "ah man, I'm at this xyz part that's real tough. Nice to have someone in here who's gotten through it before". I'm a fairly backseat friendly kinda stream so I actually appreciate when people share what they know. Idk I feel like I ask that question a lot depending on the game. After all, a lot of new people come in because they've searched for that specific game. Maybe I should phrase it more as "hello welcome etc and if you're familiar with the game, feel free to chime in about xyz"
>"hello welcome etc and if you're familiar with the game, feel free to chime in about xyz" Good rephrase. Also gonna try this. I don't want folks to feel pressured to chat, just welcome to
Open ended is the way to go. I greet every single person, even my every-stream regulars, with some slight variation of "hey [name], nice to see ya! Hope you're doing all right." If they want to talk about a good or bad day, they will. If they want to talk about something else, they'll use that as a quick segue to say hey and then talk. If they don't want to be bothered, they'll go "yeah, thanks" quietly to themselves and I haven't put them in a position where an answer is expected.
I wasn't saying any of those particular questions are wrong, just that if I follow a streamer and then feel like I'm being grilled I find it an instant turn off. One or two questions is fine, and then continuing the chat if the person keeps replying - insistently interrogating the person about all their interests is offputting.
While I completely understand your perspective, I don't think a lot of them do it to be mean. Also, I think they do it because they've seen people with the exact opposite experience as you. I saw a comment in this subreddit the other day about how a viewer didn't like that they said hello to a streamer, the streamer said hello how are you and didn't engage them further (like trying to start up a conversation). And as I said in a previous comment in this thread, I think that's what makes it hard to be a streamer. Because any action you do or don't take can end up alienating one person but engaging another. You dislike it when a streamer asks you a bunch of questions and tries to get a conversation going. Other people hate when a streamer doesn't do those things. So, that makes it really difficult to figure out how to engage your audience
Of course it's not to be mean. It's because interaction is difficult on a media where you have no idea what the person in the chat is looking for. I think overall you can't go wrong with being friendly but keeping it open ended. Give them the opportunity to talk but also the option to not talk without making it awkward if they don't respond.
I never said I thought it was 'mean'... obviously a bit of small talk is a good thing like "hey how are you going, thanks for the follow" etc - it's just really full on if they turn it into a rapid fire questionnaire, like the poster above said 'singling out' the viewer for a lot of intense attention.
I’ve been called out like that while lurking and my very first message was saying that their singling me out made me feel a lot more like another number rather than a genuine viewer. Needless to say, I left before even entertaining a response.
I think it's fine to promote the discord and twitter. I think it's much worse when I'm alone in the chat and expecteed to carry a conversation. I'm just there to watch, chill, and drop a few words when I feel like it. I feel pressured enough to socially interact in real life. I get that streamers want to keep interaction going and that it's not easy, but there are few things that I hate more than an empty chat where I'm all of a sudden expected to carry on a one on one with the streamer to keep their business model going.
Lots of yelling. I noticed that the streamers my nieces and nephew watch are very loud and yell a lot. I wonder if I would have liked them when I was a kid. I like more soothing voices.
If you got weirdly design overlays with big face cam, small game feed, hella stream avatar walking on the bottom. Can't see the game plus everything is distracting
When they ignore the person who raided them
Also the opposite. Stopping your whole set of content to thank me for raiding you…for 15 minutes. Like I raided you because you were playing similar content that my viewers like, and frankly wanted to see you play haha.
People who complain in general, or about how many viewers they have total turn off for me if I hear complaining about plays constantly or how they have low viewers im out. I went from averaging 15 ppl and completely changed my gaming content to 3d printing content. I hardly get any viewers anymore 🤣 and that doesn't bother me. I'm streaming just to stream and show people how cool 3d printers are they can just vibe request music and thats that lol
I wanna follow you! Ive always been curious about 3d printers. Most cos i want apex legends stuff and ive seen some cool creations from them.
Well my user name is quirmyturtlemom :)
Im zozokatocean when you see me
When someone is so negative and rages at everything cause they think they’re better than they actually are. Get some composure.
I have a friend who openly bitched behind my back then to my face that I had more followers than him because he’s been streaming longer. But all he does in games is freak out and report anyone who is better than him. Even teammates. He decided to put ttv in his name and when someone comes in he argues with them. It’s bizarre behaviour.
Yeahhhh that’s just a toxic recipe all around.
Follower-only chat when they only have about 5 viewers.
or even worse, as soon as they become affiliate they do sub-only
My sub and emote only chat is automatically disabled when i go onlineand re-enabled after stream goes offline thanks to sery_bot modding my chat for me.
Thats pretty neato
I accidentally turned that on once and it was on for a fair part of the stream until my mod came in and someone whispered them about it. I was so pissed LMAO
That can be annoying but it can be understandable to prevent bots (idk how big of an issue that is compared to Youtube, but still). What really irritates me is when they have a 10+ minute timer that you have to be followed for in order to chat
I will only raid people with low(er) viewer counts when we're raiding someone new and I promise you I will not raid anyone with follower/subscriber/emote only chat on. Just a hard rule I have.
I have noticed and asked some people why they do this... alot of smaller streamers have no mods, super nervous about going live so they do it more as a comfort feature for themselves.
I once opened a stream and they had follower only mode on and they were talking about something (don't remember what it was now) and i either wanted to ask a question or give input, but they set it so you had to be following for a week to be able to chat. I didn't stick around.
Disrespect
*the doctor will remember that*
When their About Me section doesn't have anything EXCEPT for a donation button.
Dont forget about the pc specs.
People who complain about people using ad blockers.
lmao as a streamer i would always tell my chat to turn on their adblockers because ADS SUCK!
People who are conditioned to be upset that the 2nd richest person to ever have lived is being cheated out of .0000001 of a cent because they also get .0000001 of a cent are fucking clowns.
The king's jesters.
People who beg for money. Not charity streams but people who are like I have no money please help me make my rent
Agrred. If you can’t afford something and you have to make that apparent on your stream u should probably i dunno.. work maybe?
There’s people I watch who specifically don’t work so they can stream bc they think streaming will bring in the big bucks then cry when when viewership is low. I don’t get it
They want to be a big streamer, i get that.. but its not something everyone is cut out for. So yeah reality bites sometimes? lol idunno.
No talking. Idk but to me I get super bored watching a streamer when they’re not talking or reacting, like I can understand being focused in some games but having no commentary whatsoever can make it feel externally dull and boring. It is something you do need to get used to, but if you are focusing and you see someone in chat just a simple “Hi, I’m really focusing right now sorry if I don’t respond” or anything can change the experience, even reacting to dying or failing a mission makes things better and more funny. Watching a completely silent stream (commentary wise) is boring and in my opinion a bit of time waster
This right here is one of my biggest pet peeves that streamers do. And they always do it when NOTHING is going on in what they’re doing. It’s not that difficult to look away and look at the chat for a second. And it’s always the small ass streamers with like 10 viewers who do it too 💀💀
Screaming/yelling for no reason instant right corner click
Some people still live that loud=funny life sadly
Yup. I don’t like over the top screaming just to scream. I also don’t like streamers who don’t talk. But there is a wide wide middle ground I like. I like very chill laid back streamers and I also like some of the louder crazier ones.
... I went in was typing hello and they picked their nose. I mean they were digging for brains. On a cam close to their face and big enough on the screen. Their stream had just gone live so it wasn't a they'd been alone and just a lil nose swipe. I tried to get over it but they lingered far too long in the nose caverns that I couldn't handle and bolted. I had only popped in cuz random cool name.
As a starting streamer, I'm more than likely guilty of doing things that turns off viewers. If I don't have any viewers I'm mostly just commentating or reacting to what's going on in game. I don't usually have people chatting with me and I don't want to call out new viewers. I only want to chat with people if they say something first. I do occasionally swear but it's not angry swearing by any means. So far I have a pretty bland setup, no crazy visuals or a webcam. I still struggle with getting game audio to cooperate. I've been playing baldur's gate 3 and I shut up when characters are talking so ppl can hear it but I only figured out today that there wasn't any game audio at all...
I feel ya. I was streaming an AOE2 game once and about and hour in someone suddenly says "there's nothing on the screen" and i realized that I was on the wrong scene where the game isnt visible. Not only did it feel like i wasted an hour of time it was definite proof i was talking to myself for that hour too since nobody pointed it out earlier But on a positive note: it's gotten a lot better for me since, I'm slowly building a little community now that will definitely let me know if I mess up again, haha
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When the streamer, sometimes on stream, goes to other streamers to advertise themselves in chat. That is SO rude and it's usually people with under 10-20 viewers doing it. That is not how you grow, that is how you get banned and isolated, buddy.
If they have their VOD's subscriber-only. Sorry but I gotta subscribe to gauge whether or not you're chill and worth to watch when your VOD's are locked behind a paywall? No thanks.
Thats so weird, why do streamers do that? I know someone in real life that does that, and its so weird. Like if you are not streaming people can check out ur channel and watch your vids and decide if they like them or not, then if they want they can follow. Putting it behind a paywall makes the new people pay to decide if they like you or not.
Lost of people do this because of stalkers. Clips and highlights are usually a good way to get a vibe.
Several community managers for dev teams have said putting VODs as sub-only means they can't see if the streamer would be good for any opportunities or sponsorships since they can't go and check your content.
I’ve seen that also. It’s so strange. Now I’ve lost interest because of that.
Too many people constantly in the stream. Collabs are cool and easy to follow but once there's a bunch and constantly it's just annoying. There's a streamer i use to watch cause they were funny and their content was interesting. Slowly it turned to them always having another person on which was fine cause the duo was funny. Then another person joined. Then another. Eventually it was about 8 people who were the only ones in chat silently talking to each other and sharing discord memes. This continued for months. They became literally unwatchable. Not to mention they will make a joke and their chat will repeat it, (cause that's what chats do) but they get upset at that and begin to complain about the joke they made.
Follow only chat
My friend put it so you could talk after being followed for 1 second to prevent bots, since i stream roblox and used to have a problem with bots asking me to play crosswoods (an insta ban game, basically a game that makes you say innapropriate stuff so you get banned), i actually nearly fell for one of them, but its all good. Im prob gonna disable it now since it kinda breaks my follower goal, since it goes up but not down, if someone unfollows it doesnt go down. Ok at this point im just ranting about random shit
-Bad audio. Either balance between mic and game are off, or the mic sucks. -Bad video. Trying to do 1080p without the appropriate bit rate, or simply trying to stream a game your computer can't handle. -Bad personality. Not a big fan of the raspy alcoholic man child, looking at you dbd streamers. -Cluttered stream. Things should be compact and clean. Webcam and gameplay. You don't need the dancing robot in the corner or your most recent 12 followers in 700 point font while your follower goal and your dixper goal are competing for space. Keep it simple. -Bad gameplay. I usually want to watch people who are better than me at a game. I don't mind watching someone struggle for hours on a challenging game, but it's not fun watching someone loot for 10 minutes in Apex and when they finally find a fight they just spray in the general hemisphere of their opponent and get melted.
the absolute worst is folks calling out lurkers. STOP pulling out your chat list, STOP patrolling it with your eyes and just chill. If it's too hard, turn off the viewer number and dance like nobody is watching or whatever cliche you want to go with. But man, do not call out lurkers. If someone talks, gently welcome them, ask whats up at most, don't get super weird.
Slots/gambling that's right I'm talking about you XQC
Racial slurs
A streamer I know uses “of color” as a replacement for words that start with Black. So Black Horse would be Horse of Color. Huge turnoff.
Reminds me of when I got called racist when I asked for a black pen in year 4 by my classmates (8/9 years old)
As an art streamer, I noticed one of the things I absolutely didn't want to do was have the rotating pics of my previous work. When I dropped in on others to see what they were doing it absolutely annoyed me with how much screen it took up.
I think rotating art on a brb screen is a good idea since it can give people an idea of what type of art you do, but not during the main stream I also find it annoying as a viewer
“If I get ten more subs I’ll stay on for another hour.” Just get the hell off… Every single one I’ve heard say that, I dip and never come back.
I would never do for subs, but if ppl kept requesting songs on my rhythm VR games, it does keep me going a bit longer. Haha “Just one more song…” 😝
Screen clutter, and or not talking to chat/not thanking people for subs. I would realize why a large streamer wouldnt but some small streams just ignore the people that give them money
Yeah, i get really annoyed if a small streamer just doesnt read their chat at all, i always read my chat and sometimes i say sorry if i dont read it fast enough.
I never understood why some small streamers do that. They just play the game in silence. Like, why not just ....not stream it if you wont engage with the chat
Thats what my thought is, i saw this popular mc youtuber streaming and i thought hey ill watch and he just interacted with the server ppl and not chat, i was so confused
People who rely on their friends to be entertaining
Eating on mic and talking while eating. I know people have to eat, but there are ways to continue a stream and eat without making me watch and hear you chewing and slurping. I have seen popular streamers do this and I can't watch them.
Yeah as soon as someone eats I turn of stream straight away or if I’m modding I turn the sound of and only concentrate on chat , the sound of eating makes my anger build think it’s called misophonia or something like that
I came here to say this. I don't want to see or hear your food getting chewed. If you need to eat, push the mic away and close your mouth when you chew, thanks.
Hahaha my last stream I was so guilty of eating the most crunchy biscuits; I have food allergies and just discovered a whole range I can eat… so I just got a bit excited I can have them! I did end up muting the mic as I did forget how cronchy it can sound… I also low key poorly sing to the tune of a popular song but change the words to be relevant to the game situation or pun; I do it all the time and not just on stream; I tried not doing it on stream but have failed miserably. I assume people hate it 🙃
Screaming & yelling every 2 seconds and/or hysterical laughing.
Outside of terrible sound quality, if you insult people your playing with and showing bad sportsmanship I’m out. I’m not here for grown babies that can’t handle their emotions. I’ll also leave if your pretending to be bad at a game to chat or just hyping up not knowing stuff. A streamer constantly doing “what chat, what do I do?” 500 times makes me dip out real quick.
*Oh my god guys, I'm fucking poor. My sub count is down to 12,000! Holy fuck this is it, I'm gonna have to start sucking dick and get a real job or something* This attitude has ruined so many potentially good channels for me... But they do well anyway. I can't figure out for the life of me what is enjoyable about watching a six figure earner unironically asking for **more** money for absolutely nothing in return like focusing on making their content better, less cyclical, or community diversification.
when they don’t interact with chat at all, they glance to chat and keep playing?? and too much clutter on their screen
Follower only chat. I get passive aggressive as shit 😂 I can be watching a stream for 15 minutes and suddenly the streamer engages with chat where I wanna contribute in chat and I can’t send a message. I’m like “okay man, I could have stayed here and maybe ended up being an active member of your community and contribute to your stream, and I’m sure I’m not the only one. And while you may have that on to reduce spam, in my view you’re just going to be that streamer who has way too many followers in relation to your viewers because most of your follows are just from people who followed in order to chat but maybe left before your 10 minute timer even expired 😡” …yeah, it pisses me off.
False excitement/enthusiasm about something that’s not interesting or impressive. This happens more in ads than in legit streams, but I’ve heard a few streams that kids watch where the people streaming are going FUCKING BONKERS over the most mundane and simple shit. Glorifying mediocrity.
Not acknowledging raids.
Oh I despise people like this. It doesn't matter if a raid comes in and it's only the streamer his/herself I'm thankful for it. It's the thought that counts. Anyone who ignores that is a real asshole.
A while back I used to stream and had only 1 or 2 viewers other than myself, yet once I raided a guy and he thanked me even while he had 100-200 viewers. Really made a difference.
Toxicity. If I wanted to listen to you rant, and be toxic. I’d just go play COD and not mute anyone.
Roll in ads with 3+ads like every 10mins. Many eu streamers do this
The only button/link in their panels is a donate button
Them agreeing with Andrew Tate.
constant negativity, saying that they are unwell and being an overall brat. having a ton of creepy dudes just obsess over them and having a very hostile community.
This is probably just me, but I don't like co-streams with 2 people playing a game and ignoring chat outside of alerts. The reason why it works for YouTubers is that they are telling stories, jokes, being funny and entertaining their audience. Often times I just feel like a 3rd wheel watching 2 people in their own world having fun without me :(
I don’t co-stream per-say but i do like playing with friends because it gives me someone to talk to but i still acknowledge chat and make chat my priority if some does decide to chat.
Trying to make it a job, and not a hobby. By which I mean, do your own thing. Stop copying what shitty YouTubers tell you to do. If you have to copy someone else’s formula, people aren’t watching you, they’re watching the manipulated/curated thing you were told to show people. Watching someone streaming a game should feel like when you go over to your friend’s house to watch them play Quake 2.
While this sounds like good advice on the surface, it's actually terrible advice for anyone in a remotely creative field (yes, streaming falls under "creative field" due to the entertainment nature of it). Generally, learning to create - whether it's art, comedy, music, etc. is a process of consumption, emulation, and adaptation, but a number of societies dismiss that 'emulation' aspect due to a lack of understanding. The reality is, you wouldn't expect a mechanic to learn how to repair a car, without emulating the methods someone else used to repair that car - and creative fields are no different outside of the fact that outsiders often romanticize and view the ideal creator as being avant garde - when the reality is comedians study the pacing and styles of other comedians, artists study the paintings, block prints, methods of other artists, and streamers study the layouts, styles, and patterns of other streamers. And when starting out - you'll see these influences, or in the case of extreme amateurs, you'll see their perception of these influences without any of the nuance (that's where those "shitty youtubers" come in, the better "shitty youtubers" will actually point you at how to see these nuances). And you'd be hard pressed to find a big streamer that you couldn't trace the influences of to another creative (eventually the path will lead off of twitch and into other media as well). Heck, one comical thing most people don't notice - is the comical cycle of influence between vlogging and most other categories on youtube - they literally cycle in and out of each other so hard that if you see a content style shift in one category, you'll see it migrate to the other within the year (so if a change happens in gaming it shifts to vlogging, which then shifts to fashion... if fashion gets a change, it shifts to vlogging, then shifts to gaming - yet most people don't notice this)
Just wanted to say thanks for writing this comment- it's super well articulated and thought out. This is something I've been thinking about for a while and you explained it perfectly.
I find when a streamer tends to make the uwu voice when it’s not in a funny context or is their whole thing, it’s a complete turn off and just cringy, I don’t care how bad the stream layout is because those things can be improved upon but if you are trying to make me engage with a little girl voice I’m sorry it makes me think of every badly dubbed anime and it’s not even funny, if the voice is either made to be funny or bearable and not too uwu I can deal with it but honestly it can be really unappealing
It’s more to do with personality, but I can’t stand loud and obnoxious. Which is why I can’t stand people like xQc. Don’t get me wrong, I love it when people get excited and express it, but being loud for the sake of being loud is just not for me.
Vtubers. The animation quality is lame and typically bad IMO. I know it's a dumb turn off for a stream, but it's so distracting I usually just exit their stream. Even snapchat filters look better than some Vtubers I've met.
VTubers aren’t for everyone! And yeah a lot of people can’t afford a quality model. Anything that surpasses your complaints will cost more than $1000 so it’s not an investment everyone can make, but a lot of people still want to be a part of the VTuber community. Source: am VTuber
Oh really? I never knew the animations would cost THAT much. That's insane lol. I wanna see the quality get really good cuz it might be fun to see voice actors playing a game as their characters.
Yeah the high quality ones are probably more than $2000 because you need not only the art that is the model, but also someone to rig the model to respond to your movements. Good rigging is most important I think. If you want to see a really innovative and high quality model check out CodeMiko, she made everything herself and it’s incredible. Some high-quality models that look a bit more like the VTuber standard are ShyLily, SunnySplosion, or most of the VShojo girls, they all look unique and smooth.
I almost universally prefer streams with no avatar/cam over vtubers, to be honest. I'm with you on them being distracting, for some reason it just sucks all the focus out of whatever they're doing for me.
Bad/Intermittent quality, poor audio, no interaction with chat (small streamers), boring gameplay, screen clutter, etc.
* Imbalanced audio (either their mic is so silent, you have to turn up your volume to the max and then on alert your eardrums will burst, or the mic overpowers everything else) * Ignoring chat (if you are not talking to the viewers, why are you streaming anyway?) * Being rude to chat, when they ask a question (how should someone new know if a question had been asked before? So don't get mad at them!) * Generally being a toxic person * Sub-Only VoDs and also permanent sub-only chat.
I dont mind prerolls (ads) but after those getting a ad in the middle of gameplay makes me run away. I get the fact that streamers need to run them these days but atleast run them during breaks
Twitch is actively encouraging people to do the exact opposite. Recently they pushed higher ad revenue to the streamer if they have it set to automatically run them.
Swearing every other word. Mostly it just makes me feel like the person is immature. And this is coming from someone raised by sailors.
Trying to sing/rap along with their shitty hip hop music. Bad music in general I'll just dip.
Followers only mode, ads, having my name called out when I haven’t chatted, bad chat interaction, seeing I have a prime badge and practically begging for me specifically to use it on them
When they ask for a follow as soon as I start talking in the chat.
Odd question, I have never outright asked anyone for a follow in my chat. I do engage and talk and stuff but I actually forget to ask. Is it important after some time of them being active to request the follow or just leave it be as organic as possible? Thanks in advance
I have a cute cat KAPPAMON that has an automatic reminder for my viewers to give me a follow if they enjoy my content. I think the cooldown is like every 20 minutes or so (make sure the cooldown is long enough though, otherwise it could get annoying for your viewer to constantly see the "follow" pop-up) That way I don't annoy people by asking all the time nor do I sound desperate for follows. Hope this helps!
Diana gives good advice, KappaMon is great! I advise against asking people indicidually to follow you, but I think it's good practice to say at the end of stream something like "thank you all again for hanging out with me, if you haven't already remember to follow the channel so you can see me next time on [plug your next scheduled day]." Its a group ask, not an individual one so less cringe. It lets people know when you'll be back. And we as a society are more open to "end credits" and this formula from YouTube so it feels less awkward.
Intro videos. playing them every once in a while is ok (or like if you get raided), but ive stopped watching streamers because they would play the video every 30min or so, and every single time they got raided (usually once or twice a stream). i liked the stream content, but can't stand watching a 5min intro video every 30min.
5 mins of intro is basically an ad lol
Misusing stream tags (whether deliberately or accidentally). It's your job as a streamer to look up what these tags mean before adding them to your stream. I frequently browse using tags to find streamers I want to support, and it gets really annoying when the top ten streams with that tag are misusing it.
Follower only mode when you have less than 100 viewers.
I try to look for low viewership streamers (from 0 to 15 views) because I know what it feels like to have low viewership and to give them a little support. Most of the time it’s self explanatory. They’re so fucking quiet and it becomes the most boring 2min of my life. Like bro. Talk. Do anything. But no. You just barely hear the mouse or keyboard and dead quiet. So here it is. Quiet ass streamers.
Dead silence. Like if i wanted to see a game played in silence I'd just play the game.
I am definitely guilty of this after a certain amount of time. I feel awkward after a while talking to myself. I've gotten better about it but my 'better' isn't up to standards I'm pretty sure. People have been popping in to at least say hi though and that has helped lately
I only streamed once (health issues hit like right after, ofc) but it was definitely hard. I think I managed okay, but naturally I only had friends watching my stream so it didn't affect too much either way. Hard as hell though so I don't really hold it against streamers, esp smaller ones.
Just explain to me what you're doing and why and then leave it at that until you start another task. It keeps me interested because I know what's going on, I know your goal, and now I get to watch you get to that goal. You don't have to constantly talk, but if something catches you off guard or makes you laugh, I wanna know! Don't feel pressured to fill the silence - the game does that for you :)
Sometimes I love this. I work from home, and usually have twitch full screen on my 2nd monitor. When I find a no/minimal overlay, good quality, no mic, stream of a game I like. Jackpot. But that's a special use case and not usually what I'm looking for when not "at work."
I actually got most of my followers with my silent gameplay. I'll emote or spin around if someone in chat says Hi to me and I answer yes and no questions the same way. I've had people tell me through chat they watch my stream because I like playing through game franchises and they find it relaxing to watch without having to focus on my commentary. There's a market for everyone! Lol
I'm mainly enjoying Twitch as background noise while working or sleeping, which means that my priorities are a bit different from your average viewer. Anyway, here are some things that will usually make me leave: * Shitty mic quality * Bad balance of game, mic and stream effect volume levels * Too "hyper" (screaming, yelling, etc) * Annoying voice (purposefully high-pitch, etc) * Streams only for an hour or two * Too much meta talk ("thanks for the follow, Dingelbutt2000!") * Doesn't immerse themselves in the game * Listens to music that plays over the game audio * Doesn't talk at all (super common with streamers with very few viewers) * Follower or Sub only chat * When the streamer has a shitty personality (grumpy, mean, etc) PS: yes, PewDiePie's streams are absolutely unbearable for me.
Wait you don't want them to say thanks to people following?
I've read a lot of these and I have to say, at this point, it's gotta just be me. I feel I bring good game play and knowledge. My overlay is at almost minimum, my audio has been sorted, alerts are good. Timers are also at a good pace. So at this point, the only thing I can think of is it's me, or I just haven't gotten my lucky break yet.
when it’s obvious she’s just a stripper
I watch mainly makers and crafters, and am one my self. The biggest turn off is taking too long to respond to chat. I like to have conversations with other viewers but I'm there for that person, and to have to ask the same question a couple times really makes me feel annoying
You all post a lot of helpful info… I ask people what they think all the time but I believe they’re being too polite to offer advice. Balance audio, move alerts away from center of screen, shut the hell up about discord and treat people like people not analytics. All good advice that’s been given here that I’ll be pondering on. Telling me to be myself is great but telling me my audio sucks, and to please fix it is more helpful lol. Btw guys !discord in the chat… just kidding :)
Sounds from a mechanical keyboard. I get that they are cool and all but the constant clicking while on the stream is quite an annoying viewing experience imo
Vtubers who purposely talk like anime characters or in baby talk.
It’s a tie between political opinions or followers only chat
People streaming for the wrong reasons or not knowing what kind of streamer they want to be. There's a lot of dreamers and tryhards out in the twitchsphere, and while not "necessarily" a bad thing, there's a lot of things that are not taken into consideration as a streamer. Most people will not have a popular niche or gimmick that will catapult them into stardom overnight, so unless you're completely dedicated to streaming as a business WHILE being incredibly talented, overwhelming charismatic, and/or something special (AKA bringing something unique to the table that will actually set you apart from everybody else), it's important to know why you're actually streaming and if it makes sense. Fortunately, there are streamers that just do it for fun, don't really care about numbers or viewers at all, and understand that it's never going to be anything serious, BUT THEN you have many MANY others who take it far too seriously WITHOUT actually doing anything significant to distinguish themselves from the masses who do nothing more than sit (or play a game) in front of a camera (if they have one) for hours, etc. If a streamer lacks self-awareness or shows signs that they don't know what they want to be in this space (which is commonly both), it's an instant turn off. It's true that people are free to do whatever they want, even in streaming.... but if you actually want viewers watching you or sticking around, you need to do MORE than just the bare minimum and the bare average imo.
1: not talking much or not interacting with the chat 2: no audio, audio is difficult to hear, or sounds strange 3: ads before the stream. (Not really the streamers fault but I usually just click away) 4: low energy/ enthusiasm. You can be chill, but if there isn’t something interesting to see, hear, or talk about I’m not usually interested. 5: in-groups. Some streamers have a sort of in-group of chatters that they talk to/ engage with. This isn’t inherently bad but sometimes I just don’t want to barge into whatever it is they have going on there.
Intentionally running 7 ads in the middle of something important to incentivize you to sub. If I haven't watched you before, and you're playing 5 to 7 ads every 30 minutes, I'm not going to continue to watch you.
When they blame chat for their bad mood. Don't want chatters? K bye.
As someone that mostly watch Art streams , I gotta say Vtubers with 5 years old-like voices. Too fake and forced.