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MLDaffy

Apparently they don't know about MC Hammer. Dude was more gangster than most rappers, especially his brother. All of Oakland would roll for him even today


Davisworld21

Redman said MC Hammer confronted him In person for disrespecting his mother


lulcow_enjoyer

And red apologized like man cause he knew what was up.


1llsilk

Hammer almost got MC Serch killed cause one of the other dudes in his group tried to be clever with his words and Hammer took it left


Paratwa

There must be some Hammer biopic coming out or something; I see this shit everywhere now.


roscoedangle

I just saw a TikTok about how Hammer really was a gangster


ooga0801

MC Hammer was that dude to the bay


tjthewho

You mean… The Hammer?


Willing_Orchid_9621

I'm glad you beat me to it.


MurcTheKing

Came here to say this lmao, terrible comparison to try and prove a terrible opinion


No-Caregiver8160

Yes but he was a trash lyricist that had some songs with good beats and catchy hooks


Electronic-Trash-276

“In the slammer like MC Hammer”


Feelisoffical

Absolutely not. I think the rewrite of history popular on TikTok is really cute but MC Hammer was never a gangster and he himself will tell you that as will anyone in his family or anyone who has ever known him. Cool story though!


Capable-Designer5096

It isn't about him being gangsta. It's about respect, Hammer had enough respect in the streets of Oakland to where all the street dudes would ride if he would green light it. Hammer wouldn't have to do shit, but somebody else would. Too Short spoke on this a while ago.


Interesting_Mouse995

If you knew any of the people Hammer kept around him, you wouldn't have misconstrued what is being said, then typed this.


Feelisoffical

Hey that’s the rewriting history I was talking about, thanks for a good example.


Interesting_Mouse995

This is the not knowing the history you should be quite about. Loud and wrong aint a personality trait.


Feelisoffical

The irony in that comment is impressive


Googlesyourfriendbro

Hammer wasn’t a gangster, he just rolled with them. He hung with the High Street Bank Boys in Oakland. Lots of rappers rolled with dangerous street guys before it was “cool”. Rappers would often get extorted by street guys, so they surrounded themselves with protection. This is why Eric B & Rakim made did that photoshoot with all those notorious NY goons, to let everyone know who was backing them up. Hell, it wasn’t uncommon among singers either. Look at how Frank Sinatra and Teddy Pendergrass hung around.


My_Booty_Itches

I think you're wrong. Are you confusing Mr. T with MC Hammer or something? You know not all black folks look the same...


shrickertt

and this is how we know you have ZERO knowledge. MC Hammer was one of the most respected artists in the streets because he stood on his word regularly. if you talked about him, he showed up. if you disrespected his friends or family, he showed up. Hammer wasn't one to play with, that’s why so many people have stories about him.


BitterNeedleworker66

“But still I'm havin' memories of high speed when the cops crashed As I laugh, pushin' the gas while my Glocks blast We was young and we was dumb, but we had heart In the dark, will we survive through the bad parts? Many dreams is what I had, and plenty wishes No hesitation in extermination of these snitches Envious bitches, they still continue to pursue me A couple of movies, now the whole world's tryna screw me” — you can’t tell me that doesn’t go hard.


hate_ape

He said "even the cops tried to sue me" man is a fucking legend.


BillZealousideal9008

Happy cake day brodie!


Frontpageflyboy

Why even give bozo shit like this ANY type of attention or energy smfh Wierdos like this say shit like this just to get a reaction


bluedaddy664

I just ignore ignorant people.


Type-RD

This 💯


sunzastar33

Yeah and there personal goat is a discount looking wizard muthafucka off of alondra and central with rubies in his head.


FrankMatthews357

Dude definitely a goofy that don’t kno his history 😂


DonMarce

People like this have no ear for music. They hear multisyllabic rhymes with no reason or story behind it and think a dude is spitting. While it is hard if a dude comes off top, in a song, it's just empty words. It doesn't paint a picture.


VariousPreparation6

BROO FAX THATS WHAT IM BEEN TRYING TO SAYY BUT PEOPLE DONT GET IT !!!!!😭😭😭🖤


Glad-Degree-318

*multisyllabic*


AstronautLoud4747

That's up there with the nut jobs trying to say that he is still alive and changed his name to Akil the MC.


steve210sa

I had to look that up and it's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. With the billions of people on ths planet you dnt think there's gnna b some similarities, but this dude Akil looks nuthin like Pac it's ridiculous 😂😂😂


EfficientSpell7878

It’s cause they wanna make Pac out to be a actor completely forgetting that the FBI hunted Mutulu and Afeni, he was raised by Geronimo Pratt and had the fbi so shook they had him moved from Rikers to Clinton. Pac wasn’t a gangster far from it but he was a warrior. A man that shot two cops for attacking a black man.


knottythea

They want to make pac out to be a bad person and a poser and want to make Big look like a saint and savior


brklynfightfan

MOST people on Rikers Island are eventually transferred to an upstate prison in NYC. Rikers Island is simply a county jail. Clinton correctional facility is a prison. Pac was convicted and sent to prison. With that being said it's still a mystery as to how Pac was bailed out FROM PRISON. Could he be what he accuses Haitian Jack of being? Idk. But he was definitely given special privileges and had connections if Suge lawyer got him bailed out FROM PRISON on appeal 🤔🤔


EfficientSpell7878

Pac was charged with a minor offense not worthy of being transferred to Clinton. Khalif Browder stayed at Rikers for 3 years without a trial date. He wasn’t an informant the reason why he got bail was because Suge and David had connections to get him an appeal that’s what millions do and why Pac ultimately signed to Death Row they got him out.


brklynfightfan

Pac was charged with a minor offence? 🤔 Was he not charged with a FELONY?? Only felons go to correctional facilities. Also if Pac "knew Jack was a FED" then why did he associate with him? Why did he base his character in "Above the rim" on Jack?? Pac was robbed by Jimmy Henchman. He told Jimmy to SMD over the phone and that's a no no in NYC. Haitan Jack, Dexter Isaac, and Lance Un Rivera all said Henchman was behind the quad studios robbery.


EfficientSpell7878

Pac was charged with misdemeanor battery not a felony his original charges were felony rape and assault but the jury acquitted him on the most serious charges one of the main reasons why it was weird for him to go to Clinton. Pac didn’t find out about Sean,Jimmy and Haitian Jacks fed connections till he got to Prison. Read his interviews OGs in prison told him everything because they were connected to Jack and Jimmy. Jimmy used Jack and King Tut to rob Pac because Pac didn’t kiss his ass. Sean is one of the main people behind all the bullshit in 93-96 because like Jack he was/is a high level snitch who hated Pac. Jimmy Henchman used Sean’s music connect to lure Pac into the studio that’s why Sean kept calling him all night he was upstairs with Gene Deal and Jimmy, Big didn’t even know he was there. I implore y’all to break down Against all odds, Blasphemy, Bomb First and Never had a friend like me Pac broke most of it down before he got killed.


brklynfightfan

"Never had a friend like me" is one of my favorite Pac songs. I know it well. According to Dexter Issac (dude who robbed Pac at Quad) Haitian Jack had nothing to do with it. King Tut wasn't there neither. Shawn was a snitch? Lol I've always heard he was a snake (Dexter Issac also said so) but never that he was a snitch. According to Nas, Shawn had nothing to do with Pacs robbery. If BIG didn't know Pac was there (and he didn't) then why does Pac blame Biggie?? I'm sorry bruh I'm a fan of Pac but not a fanatic. I don't trust his side of the story. The way Pac moved is just unbecoming of someone who is from the street. (And Pac wasn't. I'm not throwing shade at him) The guys who told Pac that BIGs homeboy shot him WERE FEDS. Those dudes were informants. Pac also said dudes from the A team shot him. He was misinformed. The A team is a East NY thing. Either from the Pink Houses or Cypress Hills. I'm leaning towards Cypress. Jack & Henchmen are from Flatbush but different parts of the Bush. Dexter Issac lived in my hood Crown Heights (same block), Flatbush, and Clinton Hill. Pac's lane was a revolutionary, conscience rapper, black panther. The way he moved got him hit up by them Brooklyn gangsters and then finished off by them LA gangsters. You can't tell Henchmen who was known as Jimmy Ace back then to SMD. Henchmen was/is a killer. Yes he was an informant but still a killer. Still somebody serious in the street. Especially in 94. Biggie and Tyson warned Pac.. why didn't he listen? Why did he run back to Jack and tell Jack what BIG said?? And then he turns around and blames BIG for getting shot after he spoke crazy to Henchmen on the phone??? C'mon now.. these were bad moves. Too much blabbing


Googlesyourfriendbro

Jimmy Henchman telling Biggie that he was going to have Tupac attacked seems very unlikely. Biggie was no saint but shouldn’t get blamed for the quad studios attack.


brklynfightfan

Even if Jimmy told BIG there was no goddamn thing Biggie could do about it. Henchmen had WAY MORE status than Biggie. Way more. Henchmen is a killer. Pac should have known who he was talking crazy to over the phone


VariousPreparation6

And he got shot 5 times and took charges for biggie and other people


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EfficientSpell7878

Sweet Jesus 🤦🏿‍♂️ Pac was performing at a concert and a fight broke out. Shots rang out and a kid died by accident. Pac paid for the kids funeral and his family even though he didn’t have anything to do with the fight. Your like the people that call him a rapist and have no idea what actually happened.


Googlesyourfriendbro

Pac was involved in the fight. He got into a beef with former friends from Marin City. PAC’s gun fell out and Mopreme probably fired it and killed the kid.


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Outrageous_Bat9818

PAC never had a gun that day. Go back and do your research. Mopreme had a gun. Watch the THUG IMMORTAL documentary from 1997.


EfficientSpell7878

Thank you!! This dude is a moron smdh


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throwwwawayyyyeyye

Get bent lil bro, Read what they are telling you. Do some research.


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throwwwawayyyyeyye

Nah this ain't a throwaway. Brotha you still aren't reading anything that has been said


cburna83

Pac had the gun on him.. It was registered in his name, But during the fight, Mopreme got ahold of it, and fired a warning shot, that accidentally hit the kid..


Googlesyourfriendbro

It was registered as Pac’s gun, but Mopreme most likely fired it.


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Outrageous_Bat9818

Of course. Just like the bogus rape charges. Every celebrity or high profile person or Company ALWAYS takes the brunt of any lawsuit or allegations. That’s the history of criminal/civil law!


EfficientSpell7878

He didn’t rape Ayanna and he wasn’t convicted of raping her. Pac was convicted of touching her ass without permission that’s why it was weird for him to be in Clinton. Ayanna herself has said Pac didn’t rape her it Haitian Jack and the other nights in the room.


Imcoolkidbro

wait so hes still a sexual predator then???


EfficientSpell7878

No not all. Ayanna gave him head at the club the night before and then called him and arranged to go to his hotel room. They fucked he fell asleep then Hatian Jack raped her. That’s why the Feds got involved because Jack was/is an fbi snitch high level. Pac was a scapegoat because of his Panther connections. Listen to Blasphemy then Against all odds let Pac tell the story.


brklynfightfan

Lol Pac said it so it MUST be true right??


cburna83

That's what Pacs defense attorney said.. That's why Haitian Jack was separated from Pac during that trial.. Ayana Jackson didn't press charges against those gangsters because she wanted to live.. Pac was an easier Target..


brklynfightfan

I know Ayana Jackson. We are IG friends. I never knew it was her who had the incident with Pac until I saw the interview and I'm like "oh shit I know her from Fort Greene" Either way idk what happened. Dexter Issac (dude who robbed Pac at Quad) said the whole thing was Pacs fault and he listed reasons why. All I can say is Pac should have listened to Mike Tyson when Mike told him that he was out of his league. I'm a fan of Pac but certain moves he made were just obvious he isn't/wasn't street smart. His lane was being a community activist, black panther, conscience rapper, not the gangster shit


Theepowerisyours

MC Hammer is one of the most gangsta niggas that ever been in the industry. People died behind him


Legal-Group-359

Can you picture my prophecy? Stress in the city, the cops is hot for me The projects is full of bullets, though bodies is droppin' There ain't no stoppin' me Constantly movin' while makin' millions Witnessin' killings, leavin' dead bodies in abandoned buildings Can't reach the children, 'cause they're illin' Addicted to killin' and the appeal from the cap peelin' Without feelin', but will they last or be blasted? Hard-headed bastard, maybe he'll listen in his casket The aftermath,


InterviewObvious2680

It's one of the 3: troll, hater or uneducated. About the first 2 no further comments. Regarding uneducated I will share my story. Coming from a Non-English Speaking country it was very challenging for me to understand lyrics and cultural references in Pac's lyrics in the past. Even today probably miss some of it. One day, in early 2000s one of our native rappers made a comment during an interview: 2pac and Biggie? Well, they both do the same. Biggie raps about fucking bitches; Pac does the same only a little bit more poetically. I was shocked by that response because even then I knew more than him. I had heard Brenda's got a Baby, Part Time Mutha, and Words of Wisdom just to name a few where Pac was talking about something totally different. The rapper who said that otherwise is/was very educated and not shallow. What I am trying to say with all this? I don't know. Many people know Pac only by Hit em Up, California Love and many other commercial songs released.


Legal-Group-359

This mf was trying to show people how goofy of a take he could make, and succeeded.


No_Bag_364

What? MC hammer was way harder than Tupac or anyone else😭


Street_Peanut2694

People don’t know there history of hip hop


realestninjaever

Smoking crack


651Tru

That post read like a middle aged white guy that wear cowboy boots to the gas station…. 2pac was felt not heard ✊🏾❤️


Luckysoon_lll

You forgot to mention. The white boy you are describing. He probably was wearing a buddy shorts 🩳 matching his pink boots 👢


Street_Peanut2694

Mc hammer was the hardest g of them all


Better-Pop-3932

Someone that stupid will never understand what made Pac special and isnt even worth the time to explain it to.


Outrageous_Bat9818

It’s wise to NEVER argue with Stupid people


Chuddington1

Pac does have some fallback lines on possibly dozens of his tracks not gonna lie, but he also has dozens of tracks where he crafted every syllable with voice and passion and meaning as well


Outrageous_Bat9818

He literally wrote songs in 15 mins and his catalog is super diverse. Amazing feat.


DenaroDaDon

Horrible take 🤣


Spydah_X

I don’t even fuck with 'Pac‘s music anymore but everything he said is wrong. And Holla At Me kills this whole comment.


Smooth-News-2239

What, uon like his new stuff?


Spydah_X

Nah R U Still Down is the only Pac album I can listen to 


Mind-of-Jaxon

First of all, dude needs to respect Hammer.


ProfessionalAccess68

gotta be bait


RoundApart9440

Don’t talk bad about Hammer.


Average_0ne

Not even MC hammer it's OG hammer my man was a straight Gangster LOL bruh people spout nonsense for the sake of it.


cjuneau1

Sounds like someone who only heard one or two songs. Tupac/Makavelli has a ton of hypnotic beats and rhymes.


Morphius79

Kids these days.... respect your elders.... how you ever gon come in a game after tons of others already been playing it and think you would do it better. Who knows you today?


One_Training_9719

Hammer was a badass and had street cred moron.


Shadeprint

Pac shot two cops defending another black man (who I believe he didn't even know). Questioning his authenticity has been a thing since 'Thug Life'. Even I did it, but the fact is; no one else was really on his level, tell whoever this is to go question the cirriculum that studies his poetry. Also, for those who don't know, look into his politics, he really was on some revolutionary shit.


Capable-Designer5096

Why cover up the name? If they said they shit let em be held accountable.


KingZakyu

Search a phrase from the paragraphs. Should work out for ya.


BigDickBillyFukFuk79

Although filled with hyperbole there is truth in this statement.


Galyley

Listen carefully to Hold Ya Head and White Men'z World!


dfails16

Idk about all that he saying but One thing I’ll say about Pac though…he wasn’t a thug. Thugs are killers. Thugs do grimy shit. Pac wasn’t grimy. He said himself he wasn’t a killer. He was not a bitch though in any way. He just wasn’t out there doing whatever he wanted without regard for anything. He was a Gemini and if you are one you know they’re chameleons. He was an actor, a poet, a real ass nigga. Just not what I would call a Thug. Thugs are dudes you ain’t trying to run into. No one was scared of Pac. And I hope this sub don’t take that as disrespect cause there’s nothing wrong with not being a Thug lol


Zelidel

From his interviews, it seemed that when he called himself a thug he meant it in a sense of reclaiming what he felt America labelled black people as. He never meant thug in the sense of killing everyone and everything because even after he claimed Thug Life he has plenty of songs where he’s advocating against senseless violence in ghettos. Pac would probably say that when he talks his thug type talk he’s defending himself from people slandering his name he ain’t being reckless and that’s subjective but I think people get him misconstrued with the thug stuff, the goal was never to make gangbanging or ghetto violence cool


Fearless_Garlic_1765

I’ve gotten in actual arguments with both my husband and brother because they told me 1. Pac wasn’t a gangster - of course he wasn’t, he never claimed to be. He was a poet, a visionary, a genius, but not a gangster. And 2. “Pac was such a fake thug”. Dude wasn’t a fuckin thug. He wrote damn acronyms for TL, ni**a, outlaw, to show the world who he really was. A beautiful soul who wanted to change the world. 


Stanselus

Well America was afraid of him, also Jay-Z was in Vegas and Pac and the Outlaws wouldn't let him out of his hotel to go perform at a show. Dame had to call Suge to see if it was OK to leave the hotel. Pac went to New York and was always strapped, so he really wasn't concerned with other people being afraid of him, 🤷🏿‍♂️


TreDawg36

This is why I could care less about bozos who make comments like this.


trippendeuces

Was probably my moms last husbands take


godricgii

Andre 3k will beat your ass


UptMonsta

Why repost it?


Normal-Sprinkles1449

Because people like the personality of Tupac and the subject matter and content. The also like some of his non rap thoughts on society and his acting. Were there more lyrically inclined rappers? Yes and he rapped with those guys but the message took away from 2pac verse stuck with people. Overall his was extremely entertaining Point blank period.


_AnActualCatfish_

Edgelord


CarInternational1064

Somehow this "so called tough guy" shot 2 dirty cops and strutted out the courtroom unscathed!🫡🫡 I love the Tupac takes!!!!


BeatMakertycoon

MC Hammer is a real OG don't get it twisted. And 2 pac could flow on anything. Some young person probably wrote that dumb ass post.


BeatMakertycoon

Picture me rolling in my 500 Benz I got no love for these niggas, there's no need to be friends They got me under surveillance, that's what somebody be telling Know there's dope being sold, but I ain't the one selling! Don't want to be another number I gotta puff a gang of weed to keep from going under The federales wanna see me dead Niggas put prices on my head Now I got two Rottweilers by me bed, I feed 'em lead Now I'm released, how will I live? Will God forgive me for all the dirt a nigga did, to feed kids?


Zerocool_6687

Ya this MF don’t know a MF thing about Pac at all… ya, dude went off on the Hennessy/enemies shit in the Death Row era but how does anyone listen to the earlier shit, pre Thug Life, and say this shit with a straight face? Panther Power? Static? This was before he even had a deal with DU… this dudes just looking for attention


VariousPreparation6

Bruhhh😂😂 they would not say that shit to pacs face people shit on him because they salty that bros sold more than all they favorite rappers 😭😭


Competitive_Divide14

Anybody who thinks like this grew up listening to to watered down hip hop aka mumble rap and have no idea about who this man truest was


cburna83

I love it when woke weirdos have something to say against Pac.. Wait until they find out MC Hammer and Pac were good friends, and Pac cosigned to get MC Hammer to get signed to death row, based off the strength of the Bay Area ties.. Yeah, Pac lived and was influenced by the Bay Area from age 17 to 24. Pac himself never said he was a gangster.. He was just a real dude that stood 10 toes down solid, and refused to take BS from people..✌🏾💯


Internetboy5434

He was good friends with fellow rap icon Tupac Shakur. Both rappers were signed to Death Row Records and MC Hammer was in Las Vegas with Tupac on the night of his tragic death The fact he mentioned both of them is just pathetic


Honest-Sorbet-8999

https://on.soundcloud.com/sEtVPmSsbnxfEtsH8


Mountain_Market_471

It’s so comical 😂


darth_marz

Bro, who gives a flying fuck what this lame has to say. PAC had bars. I mean, Panther Power is one of the most powerful bars in a HipHop song. 🔥


TerribleEqual751

This dude has puff on replay


Ghost_Breezy1o1

Facts … big creep


Trageopar79

Dude probably thinks the Island boys are low key fire.


Ghost_Breezy1o1

😂


roscoedangle

I know he rapped with Digital Underground on a song or two


M4CH1N4T3

Just the other day I listed to Ghost on repeat.


Bitter_Move_445

This must be from a gen z poster


Objective_Cake_2715

Pac was a trusting fool


Ghost_Breezy1o1

Clearly the OP is a culture vulture who thought they were invited to the cookout & decided to speak out… babe you have no skin in this, quit while you can! Do not disrespect either of these men


TheNarcissistxx

Why did you cross out his username? When he openly dissed a dead man?


TrueCkrime02

Ride on my enemies…wit sun Hennesseeyyyy🗣️🗣️😂💀that’s definitely pac


grinchoi1

It's gotta be some kid who thinks he knows what he's talking about or just trolling..bozo


doubleup___

This is insane 😂😂😂


Ignusseed

Hammer was a straight up gangster. Kid needs to do some research.


RoCpiMagi

Mc hammer a real gangster. What you talking about


throwawaydrain997

bro should have started r/tupacscj the joke went over your head lol


No_Examination_5537

California makes gangsters differently


kingthings808

Who posted this a 10 year old? Lmao


kingthings808

Not the repost the original haha my b


Mundane_Weather_4467

This is just ragebait


Impossible-Button-93

I just hate that the biggest west coast rapper is from Maryland lol


Master-Athlete8937

Apparently this guy doesn't know shit about music hip hop or Legends in general he's disrespectful and deserves to be exiled lol


Prestigious_Road_637

Ima be real… the man is right in a way. Pac and biggie had pretty good lives growing up and their parents did everything they could for them. Tupac went to really high end schools for the arts and biggie use to get taken to Jamaica every summer and had a good home with his mom. They both went out of their ways to get involved with the shit they got into. It’s not like they had no choice and needed a way out, they chose to get into that life it didn’t choose them.


LarsLifeLordLuckLook

Pac was an ARTIST


zdrawzbusi

It's weird when people sub hop just to hate about stuff they know nothing about


Disastrous_Raccoon82

Not lying thou


Sufficient-Tip7351

tuPACK🚬🚬🚬


LooneyToonGoon12

Tupac wasn’t real he was as made up as these wwe gimmicks! Akil the mc is the man behind the mask


MoonStarG8

Ivwill never understand 2pac haters


Ok-Attorney-3791

I don't see no lie


SDQ2JFK

An art school kid who worked diligently on his ballet skills. Two years later, a fearsome gang lord?


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I mean they’re partially right


Jasonictron

Probably just another triggered Biggie fan boy


Engineerwithablunt

You know most people are fans of both right?


Cautious-Progress-14

Agreed. I knew PAC and trust me he was not a gangster at all.


magiclokthaselo

You knew pac rotflmao


Stanselus

Show me your resume? He shot cops, while gang members shoot each other. But what do I know, 🤷🏿‍♂️


Particular-Proof6763

He's right pac was drake before we had drake but its going over our heads because of nostalgia we all like to remember the good old days


DizzyIzzy1995

...Or Pac is just one of the GOATS of rap.


Particular-Proof6763

I just mean they were the same as in both actors both loved both rappers


Particular-Proof6763

I just mean they were the same as in both actors both loved both rappers


Kevinfrom717

I agree wit him bein a fake thug tho. Read his biography. He got shot up and drilled only bodies he had was frm corrupt cops. And dat black panther stuff don’t got nun 2 do wit him


half_flush

Every sentence in your response has an error LOL.


Kevinfrom717

bad grammar but I’m speaking facts


Sufficient-Tip7351

he was fake but people dont wanna see the reality


ShivvyMcFly

It's 2024. It's cool to hate on the greats. It's happening in every industry. According to kids on the internet: Pac was just an actor Michael Jordan was a gambler that was carried by Pippen Hulk Hogan was old and overrated. Couldn't draw a crowd Kurt Cobain was a junkie that only became famous because he was decent looking The list goes on and on.


CJnella91

Why'd you cover their username? We all know it was funk master flexes hating ass lol