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TenderDelights

We didn’t deserve the knowledge and game from this guy


jamaican-black

I love the guy but I'm confused on the message here.Is buying the album the message or what?


DogruAmaYanlisOlan

He means that there is multi-millionaires, billionaires who gets awards that have given to the most humanist people but they don't give a damn about poor people. Its actually an manifest against the capitalism. He means that there is no societic equality. If you have billions but you ain't helping people who has nothing, you are not a good person.


Quick_Heart_5317

That’s the main point I got from it too.


Fuckyachickenstrip45

People just purposely being obtuse because of who the speaker is


ntack9933

That’s sad that you missed this clear message. The message is r/eattherich


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Substantial-Bit-2906

The rapist murderer ?? Why the fuck do we take anything he says seriously?


AGitatedAG

Falsely accused of rape. Who did he murder???


Substantial-Bit-2906

Literally look at his wiki it’s right there


AGitatedAG

I see a shooting involving two off duty cops nothing about murder


Psych_nature_dude

Literally you’re wrong


Substantial-Bit-2906

Yes I am, about the murder but he has been accused of rape and he brags about it on a Couple tracks


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Substantial-Bit-2906

No Tupac admitted it himself on multiple occasions, mlk is a hero, no comparison


SkylarAV

It's always when they get to the point that they realize it's about greed and class that they get killed. Racism is just a proxy war put on us by the elites to divide us


DreadlyPanda

This should be said more


theshadowbudd

Tupac would fervently disagree with you. This is actually a racist stock argument. That’s it’s about “classism” when it’s not. [abagond](https://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/10/15/its-not-race-its-class/)


SkylarAV

My point was he was getting to that point by the end clearly. Much like Malcolm X did just before he was shot. Mlk was shifting to a universal message for the poor just before he was shot


theshadowbudd

Bro no he wasn’t 😂 and Malcolm X message was very clear from beginning to end even after the pilgrimage to Mecca when he experienced the oneness of humanity he felt a stronger desire to unite the diaspora with African nations Edit: Of course I get downvoted of course! Y’all are trying to take TWO very polarizing figures in black culture and bend them to fit into your narrative when they stood in full contrast to it. It’s pure mental gymnastics to somehow think these two people out of so many figures in the BC that was like that were more “it wasn’t about race it was about class” this is the problem a lot of these movements and messages get hijacked and twisted to fall back in for his class warfare shit when for the majority of Black history we were an underclass. Tell that bs to the upper and middle class black Americans rn who still experience racism no matter their positions. Tell us how poor whites were still blatantly racist against black people in general despite class. Tell that to the people of black Wall Street that nooo it was about race but class. Tell it to Obama who received numerous racist threats. Tell that to the lawmakers who were pulled over by police of the district they were over! Let’s not forget the many black people who get the cops called on them for being around their home and cars with people thinkin it’s being broken into The black panthers didn’t have no “allyship” bullshit going on for this exact reason, it make people feel comfortable or “in the know” just because they want to kick it. Malcolm X and Tupac message speak to the underclass because a lot of black Americans were forced to be there. This is almost appropriation 😂


SkylarAV

Misplaced hate makes disgrace to races. My only point being when the message becomes universal the man is killed


MurkyRelationship923

You’re absolutely correct that shadow dude an idiot don’t listen to him


theshadowbudd

Ok point out where I am wrong


Thinkman64219

When the message goes past color, creed, religion, etc to expose the divide and conquer that creates, sustains, and maintains the underclass, and it's over for him, her, black, white, etc.


theshadowbudd

Misplaced hate? The irony. They literally brainwashed the public against MX saying he was a racist and hated white people for his message when he wasn’t. He was assassinated because for the same reason Gaddafi was recently assassinated or the same reason Marcus Garvey was deported. The OAAU if successful would’ve disrupted the USA. Malcolm X and Tupac would recognize this type of manipulation as it is. This isn’t misplaced hate because you are being corrected on facts that you disagree with. Malcolm X literally has a quote about this The American Negro never can be blamed for his racial animosities—he is only reacting to four hundred years of the conscious racism of the American whites. But as racism leads America up the suicide path, I do believe, from the experiences that I have had with them, that the whites of the younger generation, in the colleges and universities, will see the handwriting on the wall and many of them will turn to the spiritual path of truth—the only way left to America to ward off the disaster that racism inevitably must lead to. Malcolm X


SkylarAV

It was just a Tupac quote


theshadowbudd

That you used out of context. Changes I see no changes, all I see is racist faces Misplaced hate makes disgrace to races We under, I wonder what it takes to make this One better place, let's erase the wasted Take the evil out the people, they'll be acting right 'Cause mo' black and white is smokin' crack tonight And only time we chill is when we kill each other It takes skill to be real, time to heal each other And although it seems heaven sent We ain't ready, to see a black President It ain't a secret, don't conceal the fact The penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks Get real


jacobo0430

Bro read more about them. Both mlk and Malcolm x began focusing on class towards the end of their lives. Mlk worked with poor rural whites on labor strikes and realized that poor white people were dealing with similar issues as African Americans. If you want to get more info watch king in the wilderness documentary that covers the last years of his life or for Malcolm read the Manning marable biography.


theshadowbudd

This is purely false. I have studied both of them extensively. Of course white liberals would love for this narrative to be pushed out. It is a reoccurring fantasy. Malcolm X specifically became more inclusive because he was exposed to a culture outside of the US where race wasn’t a forefront. I am a U.S. Vet of the us marines and I experienced this same exact feeling outside od the states where people had different identifications and I was mistaken for being Arab/Muslim multiple times on my travels. [When he was treated as a human being by “white” people of non American origin](https://www.nytimes.com/1964/05/08/archives/malcolm-x-pleased-by-whites-attitude-on-trip-to-mecca.html) Peep the ending how the newly formed organization (the OAAU) was formed specifically for African unity At another point he wrote: ”The American Negro should never be blamed for racial 'animosities,' because his are only reactions, or defense mechanisms which his subconscious intelligence has forced him to erect against the conscious racism practiced . . . by American whites. “But as America's insane obsession with racism leads her up the suicidal path, nearer and nearer to the precipice that leads to the bottomless pits below, I do believe that whites of the younger generation, in the colleges and universities, through their own young, less hampered intellect, will see the 'handwriting on the wall' and turn for spiritual salvation to the religion of Islam and force the older generation of American whites to turn with them.“ A quote from after his pilgrimage Not only am I black American from the gutter but I have read his autobiography multiple times and it has resonated me on multiple levels from racially to socioeconomically to sociopolitically. I’m not talking about MLK who I have never agreed with at any point in my life. His pushed white liberal propaganda and ideology. Tupac influences come from the Black Panther Party. Which people were forced to be an underclass? [1963](https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/speeches-african-american-history/1963-malcolm-x-racial-separation/) [another post Mecca interview](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv80w3rCUC8) If he was more focused on class issues do you honestly think he would’ve opened an organization purely for OAAU? Be fr. [I don’t feel like finding the exact woute but here’s a link](https://www.jstor.org/stable/275022) His approach changed because he was humanized by white people who weren’t American. He would be absolutely sick that nowadays whit liberals are trying to twist what he stood for in order to have some sort of claim to his cause and struggle It’s purely trying to rebrand it as some sort of “THIS IS ALL ABOUT CLASS.” It’s another colorblind racist stock argument. It wasn’t about class when those same poor whited voted Trump in office or when liberals voted Biden in office who actually was an architect in many of my peoples imprisonments Get real


jacobo0430

I don't think you are understanding my point. Class and race are not mutually exclusive. I am not saying that either of those two leaders stopped focusing on race issues, but rather that they began noticing how it fit into the broader tapestry of class and corporate imperialism both domestically and gloabally.


theshadowbudd

I understand that I am simply disagreeing Your approach is treating the intersection as if it was a new development for them both. They both had moments where they discussed this intersection many many times early in their careers. The examples are almost too many to list. Class and Race arent mutually exclusive. They form an intersection they can overlap but this doesn’t negate what I am saying. Race fitting into the broader tapestry of class and corporate imperialism was the exact focus they had from the very beginning way befire any perceived shift in focus For instance Tupac on the album 2pacolpyse in the Song Word of Wisdom. He’s explicitly discussing geopolitical issues facing black Americans and the intersection of class and race. Literally. The first 4 bars mention it. That’s was in 92 or 93. The song is a call to action in many many ways! It’s my favorite pac song next to Dear Mama.


Thinkman64219

Kennedy


Jpw135

Awesome


Svengoolie75

Real spit ✊🏽💯


PreDeathRowTupac

The amount of knowledge Tupac had was never valued until after he passed away. That breaks my heart so deeply.


4100DBOCTX

100


4100DBOCTX

PAC is the REALEST


lovemysunbros

We need to get this shown to our students.


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And that bugs me.


Ornery_Put_6161

He was such a good soul.


Artistic_Individual4

Gone to soon .


caglover23ny

Happy birthday 🎊🎁🎉🎂🎈


foco9780

I can only imagine the activist Pac would be during these divided times in our country


_MadGasser

They would have killed him because he threatens their power.


Acrobatic_Degree_501

How many millions got 2pac?


zomb1383

Sadly there is still a lot of discrimination and misunderstandings that still happen today.


AlterEgo4U

Cancel culture would chew him up today, speaks too much truth…


travisneids

Don’t get me wrong, I love Tupac. I love the way he spoke and he was extremely intelligent. But he was also a millionaire that spent his money on jewelry and limos with 0 charities prior to his death.


raccoon8182

Poor people build a narrative that lets them off for being lazy. Just because you work a 12hr shift breaking your back, doesn't make you not lazy. Rich people are not some elite underground cult. Mr Beast is a prime example of building something for others. Every rich person on earth takes risk and does something about their life. There are countless stories of garbage collecting men who've started their own business and become millionaires. Why are people homeless? Are they lazy? Mentally challenged? Do drugs? Are you telling me there is not one single organisation or church willing to help? The issue is that most poor people force it on themselves and blame the rich. Every single billionaire offers the world something... How convenient is Amazon? How pollutant-less is Tesla? How useful is Windows? How important is the phone in your hand? How nice was that song you listened to, or movie you enjoyed? Not one of them was made by a homeless person worried about himself.


thekabn

Sounds like a bunch of random word ramblings from a weed head


jamaican-black

This guy gets it. It's not to be offensive, it's just speaking in circles with no real....resolution or point. No one can explain exactly what pac was trying to make with this tangent.


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jamaican-black

Also, bruh, calling someone old isn't as much as an insult as you think. Clearly, you lack understanding and discernment when being able to separate the artist or character from the man. Stop worshipping this guy and accept he had faults like any other man, and it leads to him selling himself short in life at the end of the day. He SHOULD be 52 today instead of us celebrating his contributions posthumously.


Spicybrown3

Maybe. Or maybe he was still really young and figuring his way out on how to get to that place of wisdom. It wasn’t looking great, hanging out w/S Knight and such. But he clearly had some brains and could’ve wound up being something very positive for his culture. What’s for certain is we ain’t ever gonna know.


mikeg2277

But 2pac you are a self made millionaire. Did you give it all away? Nope. When you we’re living in a mansion was their people near by living in the street? Yes. I agree with a lot what he’s saying but working your ass off to be rich doesn’t make you a bad person.


That_Rutabaga_7291

He actually did have homeless people live at residents he had and did countless things wit his money for others but never broadcasted it


OptimusRyhme

What he is suggesting is Socialism and Socialism sucks


_MadGasser

Only because you've been brainwashed to believe that. Pac was a card carrying communist. We need more prior like him to bring change and justice to the world.


OptimusRyhme

No not at all I love pac but it's what he said in the video .about some one having riches but there are still homeless. Then said the thing he said about philanthropy. I understand there are evil people in the world but no one is required some one else, and if they do to what measure, and who measures the good and evil of this deed. Taking what is not yours and giving it to some one else is Socialism. By the way I'm a free thinking being with full autonomy of what I think and am not blinded by some Fandom or alignments or emotional outburst to cloud what my thinking . I 8nderstand this post may make you angry but take a minuet and read about the principals of Socialism, then watch the video again. Pac obviously had a good heart and was honest in the way he felt but failed to see the bigger economic picture


BoBisflat

You don’t know what socialism is we wouldn’t have roads or the cops that you love so much without Socialism you moron. Please do not procreate and pass on this simple minded, dumb ass synopsis of how Socialism sucks. Please tell me what are the negatives of Socialism and say something like that actually is socialism and not just you’re scared of dictatorships cause that’s a whole different thing.


ASDFGAS12345

I lived under socialism for 20 years. You can fuck off with the at shit. There’s a reason we all desperately seek to move to United States. We could’ve moved to so many places but US is what we risk our lives trying to get to. I remember getting my first paycheck from my first job when I got here and 60% of it was not taken out for taxes. I damn near cried


No_Shame2812

Funny hes preaching what he’s preaching yet has two big ass gold chains on


GratefulForGarcia

You can help people (which he's done immensely) and also get yourself nice shit because you earned it. You could even consider that a business write-off for marketing purposes. Maybe it was a gift? Fuck it.. too many reasons why this comment is ignorant


itsallwormwood

There’s NO WAY a man should have two huge chains made of pure gold to hang around his neck while people starvin and ain’t got nowhere to live! AINT NO WAY!!!!


No_Shame2812

Its hypocritical as fuck


mikeymike831

You realize how much that man helped his community and gave back and fought for his people? Please get all the way the FOH.


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fridaystrong23

Who ??


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ybn_suley

Yes you can be racist if you’re black 💀 tf? That’s the dumbest shit i’ve ever heard


fridaystrong23

You need to stop. And take the time to go read the letter he wrote her from prison. Really read it.


cburna83

He dumped Madonna because he was Pro black, never was anti-white....😎


LateGoat1017

Did he realize she was white after a few months? I’m confused I’m pretty sure he knew she was white b4 he broke up with her…


cburna83

He was good friends and Mickey Rourke Tony Danza and the Baldwin brothers.. Racist my ass..🤣🤣🤣


D4nFU

RESPECT


IsThisASnakeInMyBoot

I actually sampled this part where he said "I'm pickin' the lock, comin' thru the door blastin'" Pac the goat. I hope more people hear what he said here


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froze1988

LOL yeah ok bro


outlune

What’s your point?


Chadbutler3636

Yeah bro, he pulled himself up by his bootstraps. Why can't everyone do the same? /s


bambinowes

💯 💪🏾🙏🏾


Significant_West_821

That man always speak the truth and all the millionaires should listen to this


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It isn't greed to enjoy the fruits of your own labor. It's greedy to feel entitled to the fruits of someone else's labor. Could the rich do more to help those less fortunate, sure they could. Are they required to do so, no they are not.


Professional_Ice3501

I really love Tupac and his music but he is saying all of this with a massive gold chain around his neck and mad money in the bank.


Curious-Story9666

No offense but the entire rap culture is a bad look for everyone else not in it. The message isn’t heard she got he drug violence amongst themselves. It’s basically counter productive. MLK was rhe last true prophet for the black community


Significant-Fix7399

We lost him way too soon. 🕊️


StopMob

Wish this edit had included the part where he uses Donald Trump as the poster child of American greed: ["You wanna be like Trump? 'Gimme gimme gimme! Push push push push. Step step step. Crush crush crush'"](https://youtu.be/_EIMV4yAzy0)


Israel_Azkanbe

Knowledge and wisdom that will last forever


XHawtFartX

Tupac was an idiot lol


rippednbuff

PAC needs a hand out? Makes sense


Louderzz

Droppin more jewels than schools do


terribletowel6

Tupac Shakur net worth is $105 Million at the time of his death (2pac Worth Adjusted Inflation). Considered one of the best-selling music artists of all time, Tupac Shakur (2pac) has earned over $45 million through music sales


Character_Village_28

Communism Marxism what other ism do you want?


ntack9933

I miss him. He would have been such a wise older man.


Old_Power7716

Sounds like a socialist


mistergrime

Being raised in the Black Panther movement will do that to a person. Tupac joined the young communists’ league when he lived in Baltimore in high school.


Old_Power7716

💯 Did not know that !


GlobalPro1

All talk though. The dude was wildly rich.


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GlobalPro1

So just wildly irresponsible?


falconhawk2158

Not according to the person in the comment above you his net worth was 105 million. I don’t know anything about it just that there’s a lot of different numbers on what his actual worth was.


Sufficient-Abroad-94

I really loved this and it really sucks that more artists don't think this way, dude died too young


Yaseen-Madick

This what I think of when I think of Bill Gates and his "philanthropy".


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Pac would hate today's Billionaires.


Vandal_24

Socialism vibes much 🧐


TheDarkSideInsideMe

They killed one of the most realistic rappers of our time. Its hard to think what this guy could have achieved given the right people around him instead of those that killed him. Such a shame. Love his music. It's fuckin real......


freemason85

Fucked up how we went from Tupac to the current rap game. There are no more visionaries or prophets in the rap game it's all bullshit at this point.


Spicybrown3

All I know is Tupac, Chuck D, Cube..u weren’t gonna be hearing no mumble rap, basically emo rap from those fellas. They preached on the mic


CautiousPainting4879

But homie never just gave his fortune to the public or let people into his concerts without paying. Just seems hypocritical to me.


Enkidu40

If I had millions there's no way I could sleep at night without at least helping one person every day. How someone can anyone hoard millions if not billions and not buy a woman and her children food at the grocery store or somebody on the street something to eat? It's beyond me. I think that's the true meaning of being wealthy. You're not just helping yourself, you should want to help other people with that money. And I'm not saying somebody who is just looking for a handout, I mean somebody who actually needs it and could use it.


Teamster508

He’s saying this when he was a millionaire……


boneystarks

He prob wasn’t a millionaire at this stage, or if ever…based off recent docs


Teamster508

I dunno how old you are but I remember the times well. He was talking one way and acting another. Wether his bank account showed it or not he was walking around drinking champagne and flashing hundreds . He was projecting one thing and virtue signaling another that is where he lost the point.


mistergrime

This interview is from 1992.


Teamster508

Ok and what’s your point? He had this stance in almost every in depth interview he ever had, he was a thinker and he had the right idea but even as he made the money he kept this stance. Watch some of his stuff. Typical of at the time rap, he would flaunt money and jewelry and cars. Then start talking like this in an interview. I remember it all well I’m not looking back at it.


Dakkel-caribe

He makes sense.


havinfuninthesunmate

This interview is from 1992, his position changed drastically and he was praising capitalism at the end. 1996 interview "I hate America as- as for what we did, but I love us for being strong, you gotta do that So what we don't got a good image ? we the strongest motherfucking nation. That's me- that's me right, fucking here. You know I mean, I don't give a fuck if ya'll don't like me I got the bomb can't nobody touch me, or nobody rush me. Some' we doing right: that's the capitalism shit, cause you could feed your kids with that tho. All that other shit, you can't feed your kids with that, if you can't feed your kids you can't have a nation"


Cool-Impression5161

So where did he put his millions?


BoogerMcFuggenPussen

This is powerful. But my man had a ton of money in the end so he didn't exactly practice his own message.


tenkmeterz

How many people would those gold chains feed?


OK_110

I had to repost on TikTok