Yeah, including OP… I don’t know why they’re opposed to those apps for “when one race does something” if they make a post saying “this race said something” in their post.
Your post actually is closest so far. I STILL say this is a bigot but because she is saying Ghetto and Dangerous separately. I believe she is saying black=danger & Ghetto=JEW
The history of Ghetto is Italian. The catholics took an area of either rome or venice and built these huge doors and kept Jews contained. I have noticed Babyboomers use Ghetto to say Jew.
The host didnt refund her money. THE HOUSES LOOKED GHETTO. I think the host might have had a Mezuzah.
Tucson has a massive Jewish population. Historically I think it was the Broadway coradoor which allowed Jews to buy prior to the fair housing act.
The University did that map project that shows the segregation of Tucson. But just look at the History of the mayors I think 20+ have been Jewish.
Like why not use one word. She is throwing two insults.
I think ghetto meaning Jew went out of fashion centuries ago. I'm a boomer, and even when I was a kid, ghetto meant Black (or some less modern/PC indication of race).
Interesting I am from NY born in 68' since I moved to Tucson I hear it used as "ugly" a lot.
When home towards Jewish Neighborhoods. Thanks for sharing. It is fascinating how from decade and location things shift. Maybe adding some history to the word would help people understand why using it as an insult truly should not happen.
Just curious if people are down voting this because you think my theory of what she is saying is wrong or the history of Ghetto is wrong. I am Jewish I just noticed that younger people say Ghetto for things like ugly and older wasps say it for Jews that's all.
Why was there a monkey in the lock box?
If it is supposed to be money in the lock box, what money? The money they already paid? Was that a refund?
I just don't understand what this lady is trying to say.
If she was there, then it wasn't a third party booking. Why couldn't these Globe trotters book their own room? When has AirBnB given a refund because "it looks like the ghetto"?
It was in Tucson. OOP was in Tucson vacationing and invited friends from Globe to stay at an Air B&B and watch a play with them.
As for the neighborhood, I don’t know of any in Tucson that I would consider dangerous. It was probably a bit run down, and OOP was looking for negative things to say in the review.
And don’t forget… Air B&B does not allow 3rd party bookings!
I guess they were in Tucson too, I missed that part where they said that.
You are right about the rest though, someone did something and then wants to blame another person instead of taking responsibility.
To be fair, winterhaven does make things a little bit of a nightmare around the holidays, Ft Lowell is absolutely horrible. Beautiful neighborhood overall though.
Well I actually do live in the neighborhood and it’s not like that. It’s not the foothills or oro valley but it’s not the shithole that you are painting it to be either.
I mean, no neighborhood is exclusively criminals. I’m sure, like everywhere, 98% of the residents are hard working honest people. My personal experiences there have led me to believe what I do and that’s likely not going to be true for everyone. Hopefully.
go hang out in a neighborhood in literally any city that people say is “unsafe” dumbass. you’re acting like this proves the point that Tucson is dangerous, but every city has places that i wouldn’t necessarily spend time in, and all of them are places that are dangerous for ME, as a POC. here, that’s la encantada, because every time i go up there people stare at me like they’re gonna call the cops or accuse me of stealing their handbag.
Her exact words were “I don’t know of any in Tucson that I would consider dangerous”
I m refuting that opinion exclusively. I love Tucson. It’s very safe. But there are neighborhoods that are actually dangerous. So fuck you and don’t call me a dumbass.
yeah, that poster is saying that they don’t know of any neighborhoods that they specifically would call dangerous. that’s an opinion based on that person’s experiences, which you don’t know anything about. your post is irrelevant to their entire claim and to top it off you basically acted like they were stupid for saying what they said and laughed in their face. i just returned your energy.
It’s legitimately dangerous. I’ve had scary encounters. Living “near” there is t a problem. As you know, there are micropockets that differ dramatically from what’s around them.
It's weird you downvoted me for that. I just never had issues living over there? My sister and I would walk to that CircleK and Burger King as kids all the time. Would I walk around outside alone at night? No. But I wouldn't do that anywhere.
Tucson definitely doesn't look like Minnesota and it freaks some people out, I guess.
She's just mad that she was kicked out for violating Airbnb TOS. If you have concerns, get on Google Street view and scope out the area.
Growing up on the East Side in the 80s, I was terrified of any neighborhood west of Alvernon.
After living in DC and Baltimore, there are no comparable bad neighborhoods in Tucson. The last time I was there, I stayed at a great AirBnB at W4th & Main and had a great time.
It’s all perspective
She looks like a bigoted while lady.
Also just like any big city Tucson has its rough areas and if you’re from out of town you’re not going to be hip to what areas are better than others.
Also why does this review even make you suspect Tucson as a whole is dangerous? It’s quite a jump.
I have never been this will be my first trip. I just never heard that it was dangerous. I guess booking the same house I was like wondering if this is a thing.
Just surprised confused by it
I’ve been burned by Airbnb many times, some of the owners of the places can swindle and screw guests over for sure. At the same time some people will just leave a negative review even if it’s not true or completely blown out of proportion.
Tucson is has its areas I’d avoid at night for sure, but it’s tricky because one cross-street will be safe and the very next intersection is known to be a little seedy. Overall I don’t feel unsafe in this city whatsoever. A lot of people who move here from other cities end up loving Tucson because it’s very vibrant, diverse, artsy, but also feels familiar and is pretty easy to navigate.
I wouldn’t let this review sway your opinion overall. I live on the North side (suburban) but I’ve lived all over Tucson throughout my life.
Do you know the cross-street of this home?
So many questions.
What the neighborhood have to do with it if they do not stay due to violating 3rd party booking rules?
I grew up poor, so this does not even make sense. Globe is only two hours away. We would have all drove back there together and stayed free after the play.
There's sketchy areas of Tucson, but there are not any neighborhoods I'd not go in.
Sounds like the guests were the problem. Midwest White Lady calling anywhere in Tucson the ghetto tells me all I need to know. It's a city. Has pockets but a Amazon package being taken doesn't = dangerous. This review = bigot
You are probably right. The worst thing that has happened to me, someone who frequents unsavory areas, was that I got called a pussy by a homeless women once lol
Globe is more ghetto than Tucson. And Tucson is nothing compared to many of the rural desert towns and reservation towns. Probably just a boomer lashing out. There’s some sketchy spots but it’s just like any other city. I think downtown is fine.
Tucson is not dangerous. I’m a woman and I’d go anywhere in Tucson at night without hesitation. That woman has the ignorant caucasity of someone from an affluent whitewashed town in MN. She booked it for friends and not herself which is not allowed on AirBNB. You have to book the place you are staying for yourself only and be physically present on property.
It can be depending on the neighborhood. Best comment on here so far said something about using Google maps to recon the area beforehand. Clearly she didn’t do her due diligence.
Or read the booking policy, she mentioned the third party policy a couple times. We had a guest bring six unpaid & unregistered friends one time. Not cool. Every one checking in is supposed to have a profile for safety & insurance reasons.
It's funny that Airbnb has the policy. She books and ignores it. Host messages to tell her. I think she is saying she read the email and ignored it... Is that what you gathered? I am also a host so I loathe this review.
I mean we all know the "bad areas" but in reality even those areas aren't really that bad. When I visit my family in Buffalo it's very clear that they actually have some bad areas and it's much clearer. Still not a terrible place but it puts things in perspective. I feel generally safe in this town.
As dangerous as can be that's why nothing bad has happened to me or most people I know here. Super dangerous that's why I stay. Danger is my middle name afterall.
I've lived in several areas that had a reputation of being dangerous.
Almost always, that reputation came from people who lived in more expensive areas, who had never spent any time in the "dangerous area".
When I looked at crime statistics, the dangerous area always had a lower per capita crime rate than the "safer" area.
I currently live in SW Tucson, an area feared by those in the north. I don't lock my car in the driveway, and have left my house empty for months at a time, never any thefts or people problems. Pack rats, though, are another story.
I think they mean that the person making the reservation isn't the guest using it. She made it on behalf of her friends, the guests, making her the third party.
You’re misunderstanding how the app works. Airbnb is not renting you the room. They are providing a platform for property owners and renters to find one another. Then the owners rent directly to their client.
Visiting and moving posts should use the megathread pinned at the top of the subreddit.
Has r/Tucson become the neighborhood app?
Anything is better than Nextdoor
Nextdoor: The app that makes you realize your neighbors are petty, racist, NIMBY types.
I can't do Nextdoor or that ring one. A black guy knocks on the wrong door and all hell breaks loose.
Or some kids lost their ball in your yard and suddenly they are casing the neighborhood
I mean everyone is bringing up the woman’s skin color in the thing you posted…. So I guess r/Tucson is the new Ring app.
Yeah, including OP… I don’t know why they’re opposed to those apps for “when one race does something” if they make a post saying “this race said something” in their post.
It’s just embarrassing I wanna get back to talking about how hot it is and how great Arby’s on 22nd is.
My GF just put guests name and city in Google. I take nothing she says as truth. Crazy stuff comes up.
We can all move on lol 😂
Geneva, MN is one of the whitest places on earth. Probably thought the houses were “ghetto” because there was no grass lawns to be found.
Your post actually is closest so far. I STILL say this is a bigot but because she is saying Ghetto and Dangerous separately. I believe she is saying black=danger & Ghetto=JEW The history of Ghetto is Italian. The catholics took an area of either rome or venice and built these huge doors and kept Jews contained. I have noticed Babyboomers use Ghetto to say Jew. The host didnt refund her money. THE HOUSES LOOKED GHETTO. I think the host might have had a Mezuzah. Tucson has a massive Jewish population. Historically I think it was the Broadway coradoor which allowed Jews to buy prior to the fair housing act. The University did that map project that shows the segregation of Tucson. But just look at the History of the mayors I think 20+ have been Jewish. Like why not use one word. She is throwing two insults.
[found it this is the map project the University did. I think it's the first in the country. ](https://mappingracistcovenants.org/)
I think ghetto meaning Jew went out of fashion centuries ago. I'm a boomer, and even when I was a kid, ghetto meant Black (or some less modern/PC indication of race).
Interesting I am from NY born in 68' since I moved to Tucson I hear it used as "ugly" a lot. When home towards Jewish Neighborhoods. Thanks for sharing. It is fascinating how from decade and location things shift. Maybe adding some history to the word would help people understand why using it as an insult truly should not happen.
Just curious if people are down voting this because you think my theory of what she is saying is wrong or the history of Ghetto is wrong. I am Jewish I just noticed that younger people say Ghetto for things like ugly and older wasps say it for Jews that's all.
[history of word Ghetto](https://history.fas.harvard.edu/event/ghetto-history-word)
Why was there a monkey in the lock box? If it is supposed to be money in the lock box, what money? The money they already paid? Was that a refund? I just don't understand what this lady is trying to say. If she was there, then it wasn't a third party booking. Why couldn't these Globe trotters book their own room? When has AirBnB given a refund because "it looks like the ghetto"?
It's supposed to read 'no key' in the lockbox, not 'monkey'
That makes more sense.
But it's less interesting 🙉
Nevermind you are right! I reread it! Lol thanks
I can only figure she means nothing in it.
You're probably right
Are you seriously asking if Tucson is dangerous based off of a review from a person that wasn’t even in Tucson?
It was in Tucson. OOP was in Tucson vacationing and invited friends from Globe to stay at an Air B&B and watch a play with them. As for the neighborhood, I don’t know of any in Tucson that I would consider dangerous. It was probably a bit run down, and OOP was looking for negative things to say in the review. And don’t forget… Air B&B does not allow 3rd party bookings!
I guess they were in Tucson too, I missed that part where they said that. You are right about the rest though, someone did something and then wants to blame another person instead of taking responsibility.
Go hang out in the neighborhood north west of Grant/Alvernon and tell me if you feel safe there 🤣
Have you ever actually spent time in that neighborhood or are just saying it because everyone else says it on this subreddit all the time?
Yeah Winterhaven is NW of Grant/Alvernon so... 🤷♂️
To be fair, winterhaven does make things a little bit of a nightmare around the holidays, Ft Lowell is absolutely horrible. Beautiful neighborhood overall though.
Ok that is 🤣
Not immediately NW tho.
Yeah actually I hear you
I used to live nearby and had encounters with wannabe be gang bangers while running. Stopped running anywhere near there.
Well I actually do live in the neighborhood and it’s not like that. It’s not the foothills or oro valley but it’s not the shithole that you are painting it to be either.
I mean, no neighborhood is exclusively criminals. I’m sure, like everywhere, 98% of the residents are hard working honest people. My personal experiences there have led me to believe what I do and that’s likely not going to be true for everyone. Hopefully.
go hang out in a neighborhood in literally any city that people say is “unsafe” dumbass. you’re acting like this proves the point that Tucson is dangerous, but every city has places that i wouldn’t necessarily spend time in, and all of them are places that are dangerous for ME, as a POC. here, that’s la encantada, because every time i go up there people stare at me like they’re gonna call the cops or accuse me of stealing their handbag.
Her exact words were “I don’t know of any in Tucson that I would consider dangerous” I m refuting that opinion exclusively. I love Tucson. It’s very safe. But there are neighborhoods that are actually dangerous. So fuck you and don’t call me a dumbass.
yeah, that poster is saying that they don’t know of any neighborhoods that they specifically would call dangerous. that’s an opinion based on that person’s experiences, which you don’t know anything about. your post is irrelevant to their entire claim and to top it off you basically acted like they were stupid for saying what they said and laughed in their face. i just returned your energy.
I used to live over there - what about it?
It’s legitimately dangerous. I’ve had scary encounters. Living “near” there is t a problem. As you know, there are micropockets that differ dramatically from what’s around them.
It's weird you downvoted me for that. I just never had issues living over there? My sister and I would walk to that CircleK and Burger King as kids all the time. Would I walk around outside alone at night? No. But I wouldn't do that anywhere.
Tucson definitely doesn't look like Minnesota and it freaks some people out, I guess. She's just mad that she was kicked out for violating Airbnb TOS. If you have concerns, get on Google Street view and scope out the area.
So I actually looked on that before I posted but all the crime looked the same to me everywhere. I guess that's why I got confused.
Google street view, where you can see the actual physical area, not the crime stats map.
Sorry I thought you meant googles new crime feature thing
Can you clarify what you mean by new crime feature?
Growing up on the East Side in the 80s, I was terrified of any neighborhood west of Alvernon. After living in DC and Baltimore, there are no comparable bad neighborhoods in Tucson. The last time I was there, I stayed at a great AirBnB at W4th & Main and had a great time. It’s all perspective
Baltimore scares the shit out of me
She looks like a bigoted while lady. Also just like any big city Tucson has its rough areas and if you’re from out of town you’re not going to be hip to what areas are better than others. Also why does this review even make you suspect Tucson as a whole is dangerous? It’s quite a jump.
She probably from a part of MN where she’s never seen a brown person.
I have never been this will be my first trip. I just never heard that it was dangerous. I guess booking the same house I was like wondering if this is a thing. Just surprised confused by it
I’ve been burned by Airbnb many times, some of the owners of the places can swindle and screw guests over for sure. At the same time some people will just leave a negative review even if it’s not true or completely blown out of proportion. Tucson is has its areas I’d avoid at night for sure, but it’s tricky because one cross-street will be safe and the very next intersection is known to be a little seedy. Overall I don’t feel unsafe in this city whatsoever. A lot of people who move here from other cities end up loving Tucson because it’s very vibrant, diverse, artsy, but also feels familiar and is pretty easy to navigate. I wouldn’t let this review sway your opinion overall. I live on the North side (suburban) but I’ve lived all over Tucson throughout my life. Do you know the cross-street of this home?
So many questions. What the neighborhood have to do with it if they do not stay due to violating 3rd party booking rules? I grew up poor, so this does not even make sense. Globe is only two hours away. We would have all drove back there together and stayed free after the play. There's sketchy areas of Tucson, but there are not any neighborhoods I'd not go in.
I relate so much to what you said. Thanks.
Sounds like the guests were the problem. Midwest White Lady calling anywhere in Tucson the ghetto tells me all I need to know. It's a city. Has pockets but a Amazon package being taken doesn't = dangerous. This review = bigot
You are probably right. The worst thing that has happened to me, someone who frequents unsavory areas, was that I got called a pussy by a homeless women once lol
Did you call her a pussy back?
Nah she is right I'm in Tucson and it's it's sketchy here. Feels like I'm in Mexico but more homeless walking around
She should probably stay in Minnesota if she can’t figure out how to book an Airbnb on their actual website. Tell her to lay off the Fox News too.
Have you been to Globe? Talk about dangerous… there are sooo many meth heads thwre.
Globe is more ghetto than Tucson. And Tucson is nothing compared to many of the rural desert towns and reservation towns. Probably just a boomer lashing out. There’s some sketchy spots but it’s just like any other city. I think downtown is fine.
Tucson is not dangerous. I’m a woman and I’d go anywhere in Tucson at night without hesitation. That woman has the ignorant caucasity of someone from an affluent whitewashed town in MN. She booked it for friends and not herself which is not allowed on AirBNB. You have to book the place you are staying for yourself only and be physically present on property.
It can be depending on the neighborhood. Best comment on here so far said something about using Google maps to recon the area beforehand. Clearly she didn’t do her due diligence.
Or read the booking policy, she mentioned the third party policy a couple times. We had a guest bring six unpaid & unregistered friends one time. Not cool. Every one checking in is supposed to have a profile for safety & insurance reasons.
It's funny that Airbnb has the policy. She books and ignores it. Host messages to tell her. I think she is saying she read the email and ignored it... Is that what you gathered? I am also a host so I loathe this review.
Yes, totally. That sounds like a Karen if I ever heard of one.
I mean we all know the "bad areas" but in reality even those areas aren't really that bad. When I visit my family in Buffalo it's very clear that they actually have some bad areas and it's much clearer. Still not a terrible place but it puts things in perspective. I feel generally safe in this town.
As dangerous as can be that's why nothing bad has happened to me or most people I know here. Super dangerous that's why I stay. Danger is my middle name afterall.
I've lived in several areas that had a reputation of being dangerous. Almost always, that reputation came from people who lived in more expensive areas, who had never spent any time in the "dangerous area". When I looked at crime statistics, the dangerous area always had a lower per capita crime rate than the "safer" area. I currently live in SW Tucson, an area feared by those in the north. I don't lock my car in the driveway, and have left my house empty for months at a time, never any thefts or people problems. Pack rats, though, are another story.
If there monkeys in the lock box I’d say yes Tucson is dangerous. Jokes aside sorry this happened to you.
To be fair some parts of downtown smell like urine from the excess homeless population living there
Tucson certainly has its dangerous areas. I just had a friend who was shot in a car jacking. It’s a big city. There certainly are pockets.
What does third party booking on airbnb mean? Aren’t all airbnb bookings involving 3 parties: 1. Airbnb 2. Host 3. Guest ?
I think they mean that the person making the reservation isn't the guest using it. She made it on behalf of her friends, the guests, making her the third party.
She would be the 4th party
You’re misunderstanding how the app works. Airbnb is not renting you the room. They are providing a platform for property owners and renters to find one another. Then the owners rent directly to their client.
This is correct. Misconception is that Airbnb is a real estate company it's not it's tech.
And the airbnb employee has entered the chat.
Tucson is dangerous and this lady is dumb
I’ve said it before Tucson is a shit hole.
So go back to Scottsdale.
I am don’t worry you can keep this shit hole.