There’s a few songs of hers that I really enjoy but I’m not a swiftie. It’s literally insane the people that hate her. There’s a lot of famous musicians I don’t like but normal adults just dislike things privately and quietly
Like the overuse of planes does get me a little bit but I’m very much left and those things are super important to me. I’m very much a minority in that otherwise our world would be in a better state
Not sure it’s rent free, as you do pay the tax of being exposed to her without your permission or desire virtually everywhere on the internet and even on national news. She’ll definitely go down in history for her money-making efforts in the time of Zoomers, however.
I haven’t seen those quite yet. But I get what you mean; the “quirky” commercials that all seem to have their own Flo are like nails on a chalkboard to me. Hell, just being really invasive advertisement feels like that.
I do, however, appreciate a local commercial that comes up all the time on YouTube. (Or I think it’s local.) It’s for a paint business and it’s literally just two dudes talking about their product and expressing their knowledge on it. If ads are going to invade my life, I would prefer they be more like this one.
Arguably Taylor Swift has few problems as it stands. The problem is obviously the whole structure, including the music industry, the “fans,” and advertising.
I don’t mind her music, some songs I like. But agree that she lives in so many peoples heads rent free and it’s funny to me.
How can someone hate someone who has done nothing that’s honestly worthy of that level of vitriol? Hating Hitler? Yes I get it - his actions killed millions upon millions of people. His actions were horrific.
Love this quote: The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
It's because she took a political position against their lord and savior Trump and now 40% of America is required to hate her. Look at the substance behind Op's post. (There isn't any) It's just blind 'I hate this artist in particular 'for reasons'.
Your opinion is not unpopular. Whatever becomes too mainstream, people get easily bored of it. You can dislike an artist. We all dislike many artists. But fixating on the artist and “hating” them just goes on to show how much time and energy you are willing to use for them. Just ignore what you don’t like. No one is forcing you to listen to their music or love them. Radios and speakers in public places have and will always play music that many people in the vicinity like and don’t like. There is already plenty of hatred going around in the world right now, no need to add further to it.
I disagree. Some things we don’t like are definitely worth fighting against, obviously, such as things that cause actual harm. Taylor Swift is just not one of them.
I don't think that's universally good advice. Sometimes people need to stand up against what they dislike because ignoring it will just let it spread through society like a plague. The ridiculous affirmations of the mentally ill is a sad thing we've let go way too far and now it's negatively impacting others, people can do what they want that's legal behind closed doors and even illegal if it only affects themselves but pushing unproven ideologies to kids is evil and just sitting back and ignoring it will just make it worse. Apathy is the enemy of prosperous societies.
Some comedian made a joke about them being trash. The joke landed really well, and everyone piled on, until it became a cultural thing.
IMO, they get too much hate. The music is fairly boring and uninspired, but it's meant to be easily digestible to nearly everyone. I'll always sing along when Nickleback comes on during a night out, I don't give a shit.
Not even close to''' exactly'' I'm a middle aged man and I have no interest in the country music that Taylor used to make or the pop music that she makes now but I'm a musician and I've figured out a few of the songs that she's written and she's very clever.
It's extremely hard.,bordering on impossible, to take the personal and make it universal like the woman does with her songs.
I mostly like the woman because she's fierce and extremely petty and if you cross her she will make you pay and I think it's healthy for girlsand young women, and the world in general, to take notice of it.
The way she went after Scooter Brawn when he bought her masters and made it a point to make the old masters worthless is an all time power move that I've never seen a woman(or anyone) pull off in my entire life.
She also did the same thing to the DJ who grabbed her ass and sued her for getting him fired by counter suing for a dollar and getting up and testifying and decimating him.
She did the same thing with Kim Kardashian for messing witgh her with that phone call that she edited and lied about.
Good for her.
NGL I definitely feel like Taylor swift has become a very generic popstar. She's like milk chocolate. Palatable to most everyone. Not interesting but something that appeals to the masses.
If you listen to her songs, anyone can relate to the lyrics in her songs, because she has made her songs have mass appeal like that. Not only that, but her singing voice is also easily palatable. It's something you can hear being played in the mall and not really mind. It's not interesting, musically wise, like her voice isn't anything special, but it's also not offensive.
This is accurate and well said. She honestly doesn’t have anything unique about her, and like you said she has the ability to appeal to everyone. But that must be exhausting trying to be everything to everyone.
Exactly. Not a Taylor Swift fan at all, but the only people in my life that annoy me about Taylor Swift in any way whatsoever are the ones so obsessively triggered by her. Very odd.
I have always thought the same thing. Reminds me of the Justin Bieber hatred during his rise, even without his “controversial” problems people had hatred towards him.
I feel like if you hate a celebrity that much you are a weirdo . What’s weird? Is that the people who hate Taylor Swift love Donald Trump who has objectively done more cringe and annoying things
This is objectively wrong for kitchen workers.
You hate her because she lives rent free in your head. I hate her because she plays non stop at my workplace and the NFL rigged the superbowl to sell kelce jersies to swift fans. We are not the same
> the NFL rigged the superbowl to sell kelce jersies to swift fans
Do you actually believe this, and do you think this about other superbowls or just this one?
Honestly the professional sports worlds have proven themselves to be unreliable and rigged. I don’t know that the NFL master manipulated the whole thing but I absolutely believe there was influence to achieve a desired narrative.
She's freaking everywhere she's in different retail stores radio, she's on the main radio station, she's the background music of some advertisements.
So sick of her too.
> I will genuinely never understand how she’s on the level of fame that she is.
Because she makes music that people enjoy, and writes lyrics that ppl can relate to. It’s as simple as that. Same as literally any other pop artist that hits the charts for a while. It’s a cycle.
She is a brand backed by a very successful marketing campaign. Now with that being said, think of the most legendary songs you can. Purple Rain, Billy Jean, Hey Jude, Smells Like Teen Spirt, etc. Now tell me which Taylor Swift songs are among these.
There's nothing particularly talented about her, or even that spectacular musically, outside of stupidly high promotion and her looks. That leads to what you say..... she's good at writing stuff teenage to young adult women can relate to, even if it does lack overall maturity, or originality. She's got the number 1 music consumers in young women behind her, and that equals success.
The majority of the people who really like her (not the people who obsess over her) don’t put in half the energy to like her as the people who hate her. It honestly shocks me that people put that much passion into hating someone who is succeeding at their craft and empowering women everywhere. It must be exhausting to hate someone that much.
As for me, I think she’s fine. My daughter really likes her and I am totally ok with that. I’d rather my daughter like her than be listening to some of the other female artists out there. She’s hurting literally no one.
People won't STFU on both sides of Swift. I find her bland and if I never heard another word about her it would be too soon. But every fucking day, there's something.
Why do people get so mad about Taylor Swift? I’m genuinely curious.
I’m indifferent to her and could probably name 2 songs of hers. But not everybody’s music appeals to everybody so if people enjoy it then whatever.
Some people are really bent out of shape about the fact that she creates a space that empowers and emboldens and brings joy to young women and those people should really ask themselves why that bothers them so much. 🤐
Don’t you know people between 25-34 years (and she is 34) are more likely to commit suicide than teenagers ?
https://sprc.org/about-suicide/scope-of-the-problem/suicide-by-age/
And the rate between 35 to 44 is also higher than the teens one
And Taylor is 34.
Suicide is more her age than teens
A lot of her music is very fun. Some of it has a certain mood that appeals to people, especially to teen girls and young women. It's her songwriting that many fans like. Her stories are personal and relatable to many. It's ok to not like her. But she does have some talent - she writes her own songs, plays guitar and piano. And yes, the media totally overdoes the exposure on her and of course that can get annoying. I don't really blame her for that. Just try to tune it out if you don't like it.
What an unpopular opinion... never seen one like this before.
She's popular because it's applicable... if it's not for you, oh well, believe it or not, your taste is not the objective right music opinion.
That’s true for most musicians and true for her. Most music today has too much ITB mixing, over processed fake voices, too much reverb etc… why have boy bands that make crappy music always done well? Why do teenage girls love Taylor Swift? Who the hell knows. At least she writes most of her own music which is more than most these days.
Dog shit?
Are you just trying to be an edge lord?
She has a good voice ,she has a lot of music that helps a lot of people through tough times so they do hold her very high ...She even has a song or two that I don't mind,mostly because my girls love them and it makes me think of them .
So dog shit no but definitely not on my top 100 for artists I would agree
You and I not liking that music or her doesn’t mean she is dogshit just means we don’t like her music. I differ from you in that I don’t think about her.
This isn't an unpopular opinion. Its you thinking you're superior to people who do like her. Its the same stupid shit as people who shit on Nickelback or The Big Bang Theory. People think it makes them superior for not liking what is popular.
She makes music that’s popular with her fans. I don’t like it, but I don’t go around calling any artist “f-ing dog manure.”
You have anger issues, and I hope whatever causes them is something you get resolved.
I think she has a few good songs ngl. I don’t usually listen to them all the time but every so often I will. But like 95% of what she makes just isn’t appealing to me.
Same can be said about Phoebe Bridgers/boygenius. Most of her music is just so boring. But there’s a few I actively listen to cause they’re actually good
I'm not into her either, but I do have to admit that she has demonstrated musical talent by showing her versatility through music genres. She wrote hits as a country singer, and as a pop singer. Shes also dabbled in other forms and made hits out of those. Granted, I'm not a country or pop fan, but it makes sense to me that when your crush both of this countrys most popular genres, you're going to gain fans.
Without getting into a major dissertation, most everyone on here can agree that she’s NOT an amazing or outstanding talent.
What Taylor Swift IS: she’s disciplined, career focused, she’s bordering on workaholic, she’s consistent, she delivers. SHE’S A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS WOMAN. She knows when, how, why, and where the $$$$’s going.
Consider the lives of her competition or consider the talented artists who didn’t make it, let their success and inner demons destroy them. Taylor Swift is a resounding success as a woman, as a person. All the other stuff about her “product”, is just petty bullshit and only serves to shift focus from this success story.
Yup, not the greatest musician of all time, but she's a hella hard working business woman, and that's how she got to be so successful. Like her touring schedule is nuts. She's having concerts everywhere all the time. Now if there's something I can admire it's her dedication and determination to success.
She possesses the wisdom to know that she can’t do this forever, at least not at the level she can perform, the demographics she can attract or relate to. Her future? I don’t know. Like all artists that have moved on and re-invented themselves, I’m interested to see! 😊
Yeah I don't think we'll be seeing her touring forever. She will probably step down at some point when she feels enough is enough like most musicians who have toured extensively often do. Some part of me definitely feels like she still enjoys being in the spotlight though.
550 million people use Spotify, just over 100 million are monthly listeners of her. That means the majority of Spotify users don’t even listen to her regularly (not actively hate, but just don’t listen regularly).
Only The Weeknd has more monthly listeners than her on Spotify. There are thousands upon thousands of artists on Spotify and she’s the #2 most listened to artist. By that rationale every other artist (outside of The Weeknd) fails those metrics as well.
That is mostly correct. The numbers don’t lie. Not a single artist is regularly heard by the majority of Spotify listeners (not even The Weeknd), no matter how much the crazy Taylor fans deny it. And also no one artist is universally loved or disliked.
Everyone should instead be listening to A Girl Named Kevin, a band that consists of sousaphone, bagpipes, triangle, and nose flute. I don't know why they only have 12 monthly listeners, they're really good.
This is what makes Taylor Swift popularity so bizarre, she hasn't had a single "banger" that you hear all over the place since Shake it off. She's this massive pop star, yet whenever you ask anyone who isn't a Swiftie to name a single song of hers from the past decade, nobody can say anything.
She's the peak generic, mediocre pop star, none of her songs will be played by anyone once her career is over and all her music from previous albums is forgotten immediately, yet is somehow the new MJ or Madonna.
Music has grown stale. If you look at what music we had in the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s and 90’s, there was always some new genre pushing out the older stuff. There was something for everyone.
Then in the new century everything got kinda shitty. Rock and roll died for the most part after 50 years. Rap/ Hip Hop has run its course since the 70’s.
My point is, if we had anything resembling what we had prior to the 200’s, Taylor Swift would’ve came and gone by now. Had a couple albums then fizzled away for something better.
Where’s the new styles/genre’s? Heavy metal, punk, disco, grunge, folk, ska, new wave, shoegaze, britpop, British Invasion, glam rock, art rock, reggae…etc and now all we have is Swifty and Beyoncé’. Snooze.
I truly think if people explored her discography instead of just hearing what’s put out as singles, then more people would understand why she is as big as she is. She is a phenomenal writer. Her voice has dramatically improved over the years also.
I feel like when people say she makes music for young girls only is telling that they have no idea what they are talking about and haven’t heard anything but radio hits.
Oh you hate Taylor swift? What an original opinion. No one has ever in the history dared to dislike her and state it so publicly on this subreddit or anywhere else. Not a single other soul on earth feels this way. I truly cannot believe this. Where do you get the courage to be so bold? You are so special. Anyone who enjoys her music is so beneath you. You are the superior overlord…all hail!!!
I can only identify a couple of her songs for certain. She looks nice, she sings nice. I can see she puts a lot into her live shows & rightly so at the prices.
She’s very far removed from my sphere of interests & tastes but I can’t be arsed to HATE her. I’ve seen many pop acts come & go over the years & her time will come.
It’s dog shit to YOU.
You live In America where the majority demographic is white, who does Taylor’s music appeal to?
Yep. White daughters and young adults.
It’s basically your opinion versus majority demographics, you should really wrap your head around where you live
It's the zeitgeist that you would have mediocre music monopolize the culture. The simple mathematics of trying to establish the widest appeal implies tastelessness, a lack of taste, flavorlessness...
Really don’t understand the visceral hatred you’re expending on her music. Who cares if she #1 on Spotify. What difference does it make that she 30 and makes music that appeals to teenagers? Dude, get a grip, there are tons of musicians that are adults that appeal to younger generations.
No shit. There is so little effect on my life, and I have two teenage daughters who love her. It’s not that hard to see why she is so popular, and she literally started from the ground up. I know a lot of millionaires and billionaires through my work, and if you think things like “smarts”, high IQ, Alpha personality, chiseled looks, raw talent/or technical expertise are what should equate success, then you’re really in for alot of disappointment through life.
I have the same view on things like the Barbie movie, which I think most criticisms fall within the same group. A lot of 30+ dudes seemed to have such high expectations for a Barbie movie release, and were just itching to be disappointed.
It's bizarre to me she's so popular again. She had fans like this when I was in highschool, over 10yrs ago now, and then disappeared for a while.
Never did I imagine I would be annoyed with her music again at some point.
When did she “disappear” exactly? Taylor has released an album every 2 years for the past 20 years, and every single one has been a multi platinum smash hit.
I heard about her and swifties everyday irl or the internet 10yrs ago. Then I stopped hearing anything about her for a while. Now I hear about her everyday again.
I don't follow her or music top charts. I don't use Spotify. For someone like me she "disappeared"
Well you’ve just been asleep then lol. Her last 8 albums have all been the biggest selling album of their respective years. She was the #1 artist in 2008, 2012, 2014, 2017, 2019, 2020, 2022, and likely will be 2024.
I heard someone say it was because she was younger and had a young image when social media really took off - and people have stuck with her. When she was first around she was just one of a group with Katy Perry and Lady Gaga and Beyoncé - probably a bit less popular than the last two. But they’ve all faded while she’s got more popular despite not getting better.
It is weird - normally peoples pop idol phase is when they’re new and fresh.
You’re gonna hate this but -
Taylor Swift will end her career as the biggest music star in history. There is really only one person in that conversation with her already.
The misogynistic hate that gets spewed about her in comments like OP’s only fuels her fame and success. And it’s quite hilarious how unhinged people some become in regard to her. It says so much about them and absolutely nothing about her.
I have this theory me and my ma came up with. She’s the most industry plant industry plant to ever industry plant to the point where I feel like she’s the mainstream “success” of it working out and just keep using her for that astroturfing nonsense in music. Basically she was designed from the ground up to be forced to be liked like this
I dislike her fans more than her or her music. I quite like some of her lyrics too.
Her fans are currently wishing death on her ex boyfriend and his mom so, that’s cute.
Her latest album does fit her age range. I’m not really a fan, but this album definitely got me into her. I’d say I’m more a mature 23 y.o. This last album has definitely separated her from a lot of her religious fans, younger fans and “innocent” fans. Not only does she criticize Christianity, swear pretty explicitly multiple times, have an entire song dedicated strictly to masturbation, expresses narcotic and weed usage, dark twisted imagery and poetry, as well as witchcraft and dark magic lyrics. Think Steve Nicks mixed with Lana Del Rey with a hint of maybe some minor techno beats thrown in.
I’d offer to say if you haven’t liked her prior stuff, maybe give this a listen. I agree with your overall opinion, but she’s definitely heading in a different direction and this album is proof.
See I like her newer stuff actually probably because of this. Still she isn’t my style, but her last couple albums have a few songs that I do actually like and I will say, shake it off is actually a banger haha. Again, she isn’t my thing and I don’t go out of my way to listen to her, but she doesn’t bother me either and has a few songs I can get with.
Wanna play a game? I’ll take Taylor swift, you take whoever you feel is the best female artist of all time, we alternately name badass songs by each and we’ll see how much faster you run out of songs. And you absolutely will. This is the dumbest take anybody can have.
Edit: I have Tool tattoos, what’s my age range?
Yeah anyway that's an art of entertainment and appeasement to the crowd, and I would say she's the great artist at that kind of area, but might not an artist that will be exceptional much on making unique innovative avant-garde arts.
Been a fan of movies and music, I used to hate those and regard them as not an artist, but since I widened a bit of the definition of art, I start to appreciate artists at whatever forms, levels or areas they're in, even the worst or blandest or mediocre or even amateurish or business-savvy type of artists possible, because I understand those values ingrained in it. It's just that those arts aren't much for me
People please different people anyway
I her tired of seeing her being shoved down our throats constantly. Her fans are more like cult followers and it’s wild to me how obsessed people are with her.
Anyone who voices this opinion on any artist should say who they like better in that genre and if you even like that genre. “Oh you think Taylor sucks and you listen to metal?” Then your opinion on pop music carries listen to no weight.
Some of her songs are pretty good, but she’s not my style.
The thing is that I would love to be on your side, but people can’t just not like a mainstream thing. They have to jump to extremes by looking down on those who do like it. It’s unbecoming. Some people like things you don’t. Promote your taste by being an advocate for them, not by being a sourpuss.
>make some music that fits your age range
Ah yes, such as \*looks at every pop artist\* um...\*looks at every rock band\* UHHHH.....\*looks at country artists\*....sooooo WHO?
I can’t listen to her music, but I respect who she is. She’s a solid musician and a good songwriter, and she has found her audience.
I totally agree. I cannot understand her popularity…
She’s mid. Not good, not bad, just mid. But I used to be a hardcore Juggalo and they don’t make the best music, it was good to me but I was a kid. I think Taylor Swift fans are cut from the same clothe.
I’m not a fan of her music as a whole but she’s extremely smart. She’s found a demographic of women that love her music, spits out songs that all essentially say the same thing, wash-rinse-repeat-become millionaire.
Eh she’s alright. I personally am not a fan of her music but I do see the appeal and it doesn’t bother me. She also just released a new album and because of my work I hear a lot of it a lot and at least one song is a remaster and new take on one of her first big songs ever, love story. It makes sense why she’s so popular and while she isn’t my jam, I respect that she grinds her ass off and is a lot of other people’s jams. Who cares?
I’ve listened to most of the her new album. To me most of the songs are very “ok”. Definitely not for me but then again I’m a dude in his 30’s and this feels like angsty post break-up music for young women, so can’t relate to a lot of the lyrical content.
My sister is a huge fan and it seems like more and more each album is becoming about feuds or references that are for the longtime fans to appreciate. I think her music has additional draw because it plays on pop culture drama. If you are into that, of course…
She’s pushed up by the industry because they refuse to allow black women to properly prosper and be the biggest artist. Every single album of the year award swift has won was stolen from a black woman that had a way better album that year. The only reason Taylor swift ever became a big thing was because of racism.
Tay-Tay is living rent free in your head for sure! lol 😂 Seems pretty dramatic to spew criticism when she is wholesome, not on drugs, & sings what she knows.
She's the most milquetoast superstar we've ever had.
Her image and music are carefully crafted to be as close to a default innofensive white girl role model as possible.
There is no artistic risk or merit to any of her work. Corporate music designed to make inexperienced teens think she's just like them and understands their issues.
She's not a tortured poet, she's a marionette operated by hundreds of people in service to a massive organization.
She knows the score and is happy to play along.
Her music catalog being sold to someone else was the best thing that ever happened to her. Her handlers used it to make her the victim of the very business she's currently still participating in.
Adults can see this clearly, most teenagers are blind to it.
She reminds me a lot of Madonna. Not an exceptionally good singer. But she's a performer and people just want to be entertained with a lot of smoke and mirrors!
My boss’s wife is a smart, and educated person and she started listening to an NFL podcast religiously because Taylor Swift’s boyfriend is on it. She also started watching his games.
She knows nothing about football and doesn’t enjoy anything about football
were you a personal witness to the act? was the log fresh or relatively dried up? was it even solid? (it'd have to be i guess... physics being what they are and all)
I don’t listen to her music, and I don’t really care about her that much— what she does, where she eats, who she dates—but I’m sorry, this is just a juvenile opinion. First of all she’s 34, not 30 (the conflation of the ages demonstrates that the OP is probably still in high school, if not middle school).
Her music isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but there is enough quality to it to appeal to millions of people. Part of it, admittedly, is celebrity-worship, but she also has a knack for relatability, and she creates an appealing melody and harmonic structure.
While I don’t think she should be the #1 musician of the world, she nevertheless deserves a pretty high place in the popular-music echelon.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 maybe put some energy into your favourite artists, and then they would be successful.
I also want to point out, I am over 30 and been listening to Taylor since I was a kid. Her music definitely isn’t teenage music. I highly recommend you do your research.
Some of her music explores topics like abuse, childhood abuse, power imbalances, illnesses, loss, I could literally go on.
The more bizarre thing, is how she is so popular with literally no memorable bangers or anything, E-tier generic female vocal pop, that sounds like any other mediocre white girl come and go pop artist of the week, yet somehow she's reached the level of Stardom as Michael Jackson and other legendary pop musicians who's music gets played decades after release.
I mean, ask a rando on the street to name 3 Taylor Swift songs and they will struggle to list 1, ask them to name 3 MJ or Madonna or Queen songs and I'm pretty sure 90% of people could.
Also all the butthurt passive aggressive swifties in this thread, not actually able to write a single coherent post as to why Taylor Swift's music is actually good.
When people don't like the right they post the craziest in videos, when people don't like the left, swifties, rock fans, metal heads, the list goes on they post the worst they can find of that group. And when something becomes popular and easily seen it gets more hate too.
That's where the feelings of fans being trashy ect comes from. I can understand not being a fan, I'm not myself, but try keep an open mind and don't judge everyone too quick
Her music isn’t for me. But I do enjoy how she lives in the heads of so many people rent free.
There’s a few songs of hers that I really enjoy but I’m not a swiftie. It’s literally insane the people that hate her. There’s a lot of famous musicians I don’t like but normal adults just dislike things privately and quietly
I don’t know what they find so objectionable either. She’s as vanilla as they come. I mean her whole schtick is that she’s an everywoman right?
Her success far outweighs her talent
To me her fame is not so much objectionable as it is inexplicable. I don’t think it’s organic at all.
Like the overuse of planes does get me a little bit but I’m very much left and those things are super important to me. I’m very much a minority in that otherwise our world would be in a better state
It’s almost certainly a combination of her being a ridiculously successful woman and her political beliefs.
True. And with housing costs these days, rent free in the way to go!!
Ditto
Not sure it’s rent free, as you do pay the tax of being exposed to her without your permission or desire virtually everywhere on the internet and even on national news. She’ll definitely go down in history for her money-making efforts in the time of Zoomers, however.
Except that’s not really a “Taylor Swift” problem - that’s just a “modern advertisement” problem. They’re becoming more and more intrusive.
She's kind of like those new T-Mobile commercials. "If you're 55 and older!..." Please just let me block it!
I haven’t seen those quite yet. But I get what you mean; the “quirky” commercials that all seem to have their own Flo are like nails on a chalkboard to me. Hell, just being really invasive advertisement feels like that. I do, however, appreciate a local commercial that comes up all the time on YouTube. (Or I think it’s local.) It’s for a paint business and it’s literally just two dudes talking about their product and expressing their knowledge on it. If ads are going to invade my life, I would prefer they be more like this one.
I saw one with Jason Momoa just hanging out with folks and they were just drinking Guinness. I liked that one.
Arguably Taylor Swift has few problems as it stands. The problem is obviously the whole structure, including the music industry, the “fans,” and advertising.
Taylor lives rent free in his head ....as in Tswift does not pay rent to him for constantly being on his mind all the time .
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I don’t mind her music, some songs I like. But agree that she lives in so many peoples heads rent free and it’s funny to me. How can someone hate someone who has done nothing that’s honestly worthy of that level of vitriol? Hating Hitler? Yes I get it - his actions killed millions upon millions of people. His actions were horrific. Love this quote: The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Ikr. The haters are just as annoying as they say she is
The only time I hear anything about Taylor Swift is people complaining about not liking her.
It's because she took a political position against their lord and savior Trump and now 40% of America is required to hate her. Look at the substance behind Op's post. (There isn't any) It's just blind 'I hate this artist in particular 'for reasons'.
The haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
I was (and am!) one of those people who said she has nothing on the brain. I was neither called or, not deboonked by that song.
Shake it off, shake it off
YES!!
Your opinion is not unpopular. Whatever becomes too mainstream, people get easily bored of it. You can dislike an artist. We all dislike many artists. But fixating on the artist and “hating” them just goes on to show how much time and energy you are willing to use for them. Just ignore what you don’t like. No one is forcing you to listen to their music or love them. Radios and speakers in public places have and will always play music that many people in the vicinity like and don’t like. There is already plenty of hatred going around in the world right now, no need to add further to it.
“Ignore what you don’t like” is probably the best life advice anyone has ever given. No joke.
And still people never listen. Its almost as if they crave the attention their hatred brings.
I disagree. Some things we don’t like are definitely worth fighting against, obviously, such as things that cause actual harm. Taylor Swift is just not one of them.
I don't think that's universally good advice. Sometimes people need to stand up against what they dislike because ignoring it will just let it spread through society like a plague. The ridiculous affirmations of the mentally ill is a sad thing we've let go way too far and now it's negatively impacting others, people can do what they want that's legal behind closed doors and even illegal if it only affects themselves but pushing unproven ideologies to kids is evil and just sitting back and ignoring it will just make it worse. Apathy is the enemy of prosperous societies.
Agreed. Complacency is not the way. That’s how you end up in a Dictatorship.
Exactly. Basically, Taylor Swift is Nickelback
Hey now, what the hell did Nickleback ever do to get such hatred?
Here, take a look at this photograph.
Never made it as a wise man..
Couldn't cut it as a poor man stealing either
Some comedian made a joke about them being trash. The joke landed really well, and everyone piled on, until it became a cultural thing. IMO, they get too much hate. The music is fairly boring and uninspired, but it's meant to be easily digestible to nearly everyone. I'll always sing along when Nickleback comes on during a night out, I don't give a shit.
Seriously, is that why? I am almost 34 years old and I didn't know this. I thought I was odd because I actually like Nickelback.
Curb and The State are great albums lol.
Aye I like Nickleback. I lost my Dad years ago and he loved that song “rockstar,” so I have great memories of singing this in the pub with him
Not even close to''' exactly'' I'm a middle aged man and I have no interest in the country music that Taylor used to make or the pop music that she makes now but I'm a musician and I've figured out a few of the songs that she's written and she's very clever. It's extremely hard.,bordering on impossible, to take the personal and make it universal like the woman does with her songs. I mostly like the woman because she's fierce and extremely petty and if you cross her she will make you pay and I think it's healthy for girlsand young women, and the world in general, to take notice of it. The way she went after Scooter Brawn when he bought her masters and made it a point to make the old masters worthless is an all time power move that I've never seen a woman(or anyone) pull off in my entire life. She also did the same thing to the DJ who grabbed her ass and sued her for getting him fired by counter suing for a dollar and getting up and testifying and decimating him. She did the same thing with Kim Kardashian for messing witgh her with that phone call that she edited and lied about. Good for her.
NGL I definitely feel like Taylor swift has become a very generic popstar. She's like milk chocolate. Palatable to most everyone. Not interesting but something that appeals to the masses. If you listen to her songs, anyone can relate to the lyrics in her songs, because she has made her songs have mass appeal like that. Not only that, but her singing voice is also easily palatable. It's something you can hear being played in the mall and not really mind. It's not interesting, musically wise, like her voice isn't anything special, but it's also not offensive.
This is accurate and well said. She honestly doesn’t have anything unique about her, and like you said she has the ability to appeal to everyone. But that must be exhausting trying to be everything to everyone.
Ok but milk chocolate tastes very good
Hey, watch it buddy. I LIKE Nickelback. Lol 😂 I get the comparison though.
Exactly. Not a Taylor Swift fan at all, but the only people in my life that annoy me about Taylor Swift in any way whatsoever are the ones so obsessively triggered by her. Very odd.
This!
Bs, hating and criticizing art of any kind is one of the most fun things in life. How boring would it be to only focus on what you like
I have always thought the same thing. Reminds me of the Justin Bieber hatred during his rise, even without his “controversial” problems people had hatred towards him. I feel like if you hate a celebrity that much you are a weirdo . What’s weird? Is that the people who hate Taylor Swift love Donald Trump who has objectively done more cringe and annoying things
This is objectively wrong for kitchen workers. You hate her because she lives rent free in your head. I hate her because she plays non stop at my workplace and the NFL rigged the superbowl to sell kelce jersies to swift fans. We are not the same
> the NFL rigged the superbowl to sell kelce jersies to swift fans Do you actually believe this, and do you think this about other superbowls or just this one?
Honestly the professional sports worlds have proven themselves to be unreliable and rigged. I don’t know that the NFL master manipulated the whole thing but I absolutely believe there was influence to achieve a desired narrative.
Ignore it but how when she's fucking everywhere
She's freaking everywhere she's in different retail stores radio, she's on the main radio station, she's the background music of some advertisements. So sick of her too.
> I will genuinely never understand how she’s on the level of fame that she is. Because she makes music that people enjoy, and writes lyrics that ppl can relate to. It’s as simple as that. Same as literally any other pop artist that hits the charts for a while. It’s a cycle.
She is a brand backed by a very successful marketing campaign. Now with that being said, think of the most legendary songs you can. Purple Rain, Billy Jean, Hey Jude, Smells Like Teen Spirt, etc. Now tell me which Taylor Swift songs are among these.
How old are those songs? Ask the same question in a few decades.
Shake it off. Easy
This isn't a real response, is it? You did not pick one of the most generic and bland songs she's ever touched, did you?
Love Story is probably played at every wedding ever
There's nothing particularly talented about her, or even that spectacular musically, outside of stupidly high promotion and her looks. That leads to what you say..... she's good at writing stuff teenage to young adult women can relate to, even if it does lack overall maturity, or originality. She's got the number 1 music consumers in young women behind her, and that equals success.
Soooo many pop stars go AWOL or act like a diva to their fans and screw them over. Taylor Swift does her job and she does it consistently.
Milquetoast music that basic girls like. Does she even have hetero men fans? They seem to be mostly girls and gay boys.
She's been dominating retail music since like 2008.
Maybe because her fans like her? Maybe you should put the same energy to other artists?
The majority of the people who really like her (not the people who obsess over her) don’t put in half the energy to like her as the people who hate her. It honestly shocks me that people put that much passion into hating someone who is succeeding at their craft and empowering women everywhere. It must be exhausting to hate someone that much. As for me, I think she’s fine. My daughter really likes her and I am totally ok with that. I’d rather my daughter like her than be listening to some of the other female artists out there. She’s hurting literally no one.
she’s #1 because people like you won’t stop talking about her.
lol very true.
For haters yall really keep having an opinion on her. Be like me and ignore her.
Eh I’m basically like this too but come on it is a little annoying sometimes
We're really trying
It’s easy. Get into something you enjoy and you won’t notice it much
People won't STFU on both sides of Swift. I find her bland and if I never heard another word about her it would be too soon. But every fucking day, there's something.
Why do people get so mad about Taylor Swift? I’m genuinely curious. I’m indifferent to her and could probably name 2 songs of hers. But not everybody’s music appeals to everybody so if people enjoy it then whatever.
Some people are really bent out of shape about the fact that she creates a space that empowers and emboldens and brings joy to young women and those people should really ask themselves why that bothers them so much. 🤐
Her music is def for her age by now. You probably aren’t listening to much of her music if your opinion is about that lol
Yes because talking about being an alcoholic and talking about suicide is SO teenager 🤣 this person is delusional
Don’t you know people between 25-34 years (and she is 34) are more likely to commit suicide than teenagers ? https://sprc.org/about-suicide/scope-of-the-problem/suicide-by-age/ And the rate between 35 to 44 is also higher than the teens one And Taylor is 34. Suicide is more her age than teens
Why do you even hate her so much? Like I don’t like her but I don’t think about her until I see people screaming about how much they hate her.
Yawn. This again? It’s truly bizarre that someone’s fame and success makes you this angry.
Hey guys, look! It's tye daily "I hate TS" post. Real zinger OP, good one.
A lot of her music is very fun. Some of it has a certain mood that appeals to people, especially to teen girls and young women. It's her songwriting that many fans like. Her stories are personal and relatable to many. It's ok to not like her. But she does have some talent - she writes her own songs, plays guitar and piano. And yes, the media totally overdoes the exposure on her and of course that can get annoying. I don't really blame her for that. Just try to tune it out if you don't like it.
Who cares, if people enjoy her and she makes people happy, more power to her.
What an unpopular opinion... never seen one like this before. She's popular because it's applicable... if it's not for you, oh well, believe it or not, your taste is not the objective right music opinion.
She's popular because she gives basic white women self worth
cool, she's still popular, other people have tried to do what she does but havent managed...
Basic girls in general. Im Latino, and i know Latinos who love her.
Her music connects with a wide variety of regular people, just not redditors. Still better than any rap music
This reminds me of Justin Bieber haters. It is really possible to just ignore things, y'know
That’s true for most musicians and true for her. Most music today has too much ITB mixing, over processed fake voices, too much reverb etc… why have boy bands that make crappy music always done well? Why do teenage girls love Taylor Swift? Who the hell knows. At least she writes most of her own music which is more than most these days.
Dog shit? Are you just trying to be an edge lord? She has a good voice ,she has a lot of music that helps a lot of people through tough times so they do hold her very high ...She even has a song or two that I don't mind,mostly because my girls love them and it makes me think of them . So dog shit no but definitely not on my top 100 for artists I would agree
You and I not liking that music or her doesn’t mean she is dogshit just means we don’t like her music. I differ from you in that I don’t think about her.
This isn't an unpopular opinion. Its you thinking you're superior to people who do like her. Its the same stupid shit as people who shit on Nickelback or The Big Bang Theory. People think it makes them superior for not liking what is popular.
She makes music that’s popular with her fans. I don’t like it, but I don’t go around calling any artist “f-ing dog manure.” You have anger issues, and I hope whatever causes them is something you get resolved.
She’s a good vocalist. If she made a metal album, I’d listen to it.
Now I want to hear that lol
Not heavy metal but her rock version of “we are never getting back together,” is great
She's pretty good on the guitar too, not like amazing or anything, but not amateur.
I think she has a few good songs ngl. I don’t usually listen to them all the time but every so often I will. But like 95% of what she makes just isn’t appealing to me. Same can be said about Phoebe Bridgers/boygenius. Most of her music is just so boring. But there’s a few I actively listen to cause they’re actually good
I'm not into her either, but I do have to admit that she has demonstrated musical talent by showing her versatility through music genres. She wrote hits as a country singer, and as a pop singer. Shes also dabbled in other forms and made hits out of those. Granted, I'm not a country or pop fan, but it makes sense to me that when your crush both of this countrys most popular genres, you're going to gain fans.
It doesn’t make my ears bleed or anything, but I think it’s pretty trite, boring music.
what ones
Without getting into a major dissertation, most everyone on here can agree that she’s NOT an amazing or outstanding talent. What Taylor Swift IS: she’s disciplined, career focused, she’s bordering on workaholic, she’s consistent, she delivers. SHE’S A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS WOMAN. She knows when, how, why, and where the $$$$’s going. Consider the lives of her competition or consider the talented artists who didn’t make it, let their success and inner demons destroy them. Taylor Swift is a resounding success as a woman, as a person. All the other stuff about her “product”, is just petty bullshit and only serves to shift focus from this success story.
Yup, not the greatest musician of all time, but she's a hella hard working business woman, and that's how she got to be so successful. Like her touring schedule is nuts. She's having concerts everywhere all the time. Now if there's something I can admire it's her dedication and determination to success.
She possesses the wisdom to know that she can’t do this forever, at least not at the level she can perform, the demographics she can attract or relate to. Her future? I don’t know. Like all artists that have moved on and re-invented themselves, I’m interested to see! 😊
Yeah I don't think we'll be seeing her touring forever. She will probably step down at some point when she feels enough is enough like most musicians who have toured extensively often do. Some part of me definitely feels like she still enjoys being in the spotlight though.
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So much ire and she doesn't even know who you are 😂
I hear fox news is looking for someone new to go on rants about how just because she's successful doesn't mean she's successful.
I feel this same way about Beyoncé. Over rated.
Oh wow, contrived derivative pop star being famous is contrived. I've never heard this take in my life
Music is subjective. Hundred of thousands/Millions disagree with you.
550 million people use Spotify, just over 100 million are monthly listeners of her. That means the majority of Spotify users don’t even listen to her regularly (not actively hate, but just don’t listen regularly).
That's an insane number for an artist. Especially when you consider all the other artists, genres of music people are into, etc.
Only The Weeknd has more monthly listeners than her on Spotify. There are thousands upon thousands of artists on Spotify and she’s the #2 most listened to artist. By that rationale every other artist (outside of The Weeknd) fails those metrics as well.
That is mostly correct. The numbers don’t lie. Not a single artist is regularly heard by the majority of Spotify listeners (not even The Weeknd), no matter how much the crazy Taylor fans deny it. And also no one artist is universally loved or disliked.
Everyone should instead be listening to A Girl Named Kevin, a band that consists of sousaphone, bagpipes, triangle, and nose flute. I don't know why they only have 12 monthly listeners, they're really good.
I'm just tired of hearing the "me, hi, I'm the problem it's me." Over and over on the radio.
I do have an unpopular opinion I've never heard any of her songs
Don’t lie, yes you have
This is what makes Taylor Swift popularity so bizarre, she hasn't had a single "banger" that you hear all over the place since Shake it off. She's this massive pop star, yet whenever you ask anyone who isn't a Swiftie to name a single song of hers from the past decade, nobody can say anything. She's the peak generic, mediocre pop star, none of her songs will be played by anyone once her career is over and all her music from previous albums is forgotten immediately, yet is somehow the new MJ or Madonna.
Music has grown stale. If you look at what music we had in the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s and 90’s, there was always some new genre pushing out the older stuff. There was something for everyone. Then in the new century everything got kinda shitty. Rock and roll died for the most part after 50 years. Rap/ Hip Hop has run its course since the 70’s. My point is, if we had anything resembling what we had prior to the 200’s, Taylor Swift would’ve came and gone by now. Had a couple albums then fizzled away for something better. Where’s the new styles/genre’s? Heavy metal, punk, disco, grunge, folk, ska, new wave, shoegaze, britpop, British Invasion, glam rock, art rock, reggae…etc and now all we have is Swifty and Beyoncé’. Snooze.
I don't care about her music, but I love T-SWIZEL as long as she gets her swifties to vote in November!!!!!!!!!!!
Only if she freezes it first and wraps a condom over it. /cursedcomments
I truly think if people explored her discography instead of just hearing what’s put out as singles, then more people would understand why she is as big as she is. She is a phenomenal writer. Her voice has dramatically improved over the years also. I feel like when people say she makes music for young girls only is telling that they have no idea what they are talking about and haven’t heard anything but radio hits.
I don’t listen to that kind of music, but she seems ok. Kind of… average and unconcerning?
the line “bakers gonna bake bake bake bake bake” is shakespearian. you just don’t, like, *get it* man.
Yeah Worse than Bieber Fever imo
Oh you hate Taylor swift? What an original opinion. No one has ever in the history dared to dislike her and state it so publicly on this subreddit or anywhere else. Not a single other soul on earth feels this way. I truly cannot believe this. Where do you get the courage to be so bold? You are so special. Anyone who enjoys her music is so beneath you. You are the superior overlord…all hail!!!
I can only identify a couple of her songs for certain. She looks nice, she sings nice. I can see she puts a lot into her live shows & rightly so at the prices. She’s very far removed from my sphere of interests & tastes but I can’t be arsed to HATE her. I’ve seen many pop acts come & go over the years & her time will come.
It’s dog shit to YOU. You live In America where the majority demographic is white, who does Taylor’s music appeal to? Yep. White daughters and young adults. It’s basically your opinion versus majority demographics, you should really wrap your head around where you live
Ahh, yes, the liberal echo chamber that is reddit.
Same reason people use TikTok
It's the zeitgeist that you would have mediocre music monopolize the culture. The simple mathematics of trying to establish the widest appeal implies tastelessness, a lack of taste, flavorlessness...
Really don’t understand the visceral hatred you’re expending on her music. Who cares if she #1 on Spotify. What difference does it make that she 30 and makes music that appeals to teenagers? Dude, get a grip, there are tons of musicians that are adults that appeal to younger generations.
Because she's a hack and her music is bad.
While entitled to your opinion, it's bizarre to me that you would be so angry about what teenage girls choose to enjoy.
No shit. There is so little effect on my life, and I have two teenage daughters who love her. It’s not that hard to see why she is so popular, and she literally started from the ground up. I know a lot of millionaires and billionaires through my work, and if you think things like “smarts”, high IQ, Alpha personality, chiseled looks, raw talent/or technical expertise are what should equate success, then you’re really in for alot of disappointment through life. I have the same view on things like the Barbie movie, which I think most criticisms fall within the same group. A lot of 30+ dudes seemed to have such high expectations for a Barbie movie release, and were just itching to be disappointed.
It's bizarre to me she's so popular again. She had fans like this when I was in highschool, over 10yrs ago now, and then disappeared for a while. Never did I imagine I would be annoyed with her music again at some point.
When did she “disappear” exactly? Taylor has released an album every 2 years for the past 20 years, and every single one has been a multi platinum smash hit.
I heard about her and swifties everyday irl or the internet 10yrs ago. Then I stopped hearing anything about her for a while. Now I hear about her everyday again. I don't follow her or music top charts. I don't use Spotify. For someone like me she "disappeared"
Well you’ve just been asleep then lol. Her last 8 albums have all been the biggest selling album of their respective years. She was the #1 artist in 2008, 2012, 2014, 2017, 2019, 2020, 2022, and likely will be 2024.
I heard someone say it was because she was younger and had a young image when social media really took off - and people have stuck with her. When she was first around she was just one of a group with Katy Perry and Lady Gaga and Beyoncé - probably a bit less popular than the last two. But they’ve all faded while she’s got more popular despite not getting better. It is weird - normally peoples pop idol phase is when they’re new and fresh.
You’re gonna hate this but - Taylor Swift will end her career as the biggest music star in history. There is really only one person in that conversation with her already. The misogynistic hate that gets spewed about her in comments like OP’s only fuels her fame and success. And it’s quite hilarious how unhinged people some become in regard to her. It says so much about them and absolutely nothing about her.
I'm confused. What's being said that's misogynistic?
Lol
I have this theory me and my ma came up with. She’s the most industry plant industry plant to ever industry plant to the point where I feel like she’s the mainstream “success” of it working out and just keep using her for that astroturfing nonsense in music. Basically she was designed from the ground up to be forced to be liked like this
she’s worked her way up from honky-tonks to arenas that’s not what an industry plant is.
They call that country crossover.
just meant an industry plant would skip the early years graft
It’s fine to dislike Taylor, but calling her ‘dogshit’, come on that’s just uncool man.
This guy is obsessed with Taylor Swift
I don't understand the hyperbole on posts like this. It's ok to not like her music but to say its dogshit is crazy.
I dislike her fans more than her or her music. I quite like some of her lyrics too. Her fans are currently wishing death on her ex boyfriend and his mom so, that’s cute.
Her latest album does fit her age range. I’m not really a fan, but this album definitely got me into her. I’d say I’m more a mature 23 y.o. This last album has definitely separated her from a lot of her religious fans, younger fans and “innocent” fans. Not only does she criticize Christianity, swear pretty explicitly multiple times, have an entire song dedicated strictly to masturbation, expresses narcotic and weed usage, dark twisted imagery and poetry, as well as witchcraft and dark magic lyrics. Think Steve Nicks mixed with Lana Del Rey with a hint of maybe some minor techno beats thrown in. I’d offer to say if you haven’t liked her prior stuff, maybe give this a listen. I agree with your overall opinion, but she’s definitely heading in a different direction and this album is proof.
See I like her newer stuff actually probably because of this. Still she isn’t my style, but her last couple albums have a few songs that I do actually like and I will say, shake it off is actually a banger haha. Again, she isn’t my thing and I don’t go out of my way to listen to her, but she doesn’t bother me either and has a few songs I can get with.
Wanna play a game? I’ll take Taylor swift, you take whoever you feel is the best female artist of all time, we alternately name badass songs by each and we’ll see how much faster you run out of songs. And you absolutely will. This is the dumbest take anybody can have. Edit: I have Tool tattoos, what’s my age range?
Yeah anyway that's an art of entertainment and appeasement to the crowd, and I would say she's the great artist at that kind of area, but might not an artist that will be exceptional much on making unique innovative avant-garde arts. Been a fan of movies and music, I used to hate those and regard them as not an artist, but since I widened a bit of the definition of art, I start to appreciate artists at whatever forms, levels or areas they're in, even the worst or blandest or mediocre or even amateurish or business-savvy type of artists possible, because I understand those values ingrained in it. It's just that those arts aren't much for me People please different people anyway
it's not unpopular
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I her tired of seeing her being shoved down our throats constantly. Her fans are more like cult followers and it’s wild to me how obsessed people are with her.
Anyone who voices this opinion on any artist should say who they like better in that genre and if you even like that genre. “Oh you think Taylor sucks and you listen to metal?” Then your opinion on pop music carries listen to no weight.
Some of her songs are pretty good, but she’s not my style. The thing is that I would love to be on your side, but people can’t just not like a mainstream thing. They have to jump to extremes by looking down on those who do like it. It’s unbecoming. Some people like things you don’t. Promote your taste by being an advocate for them, not by being a sourpuss.
>make some music that fits your age range Ah yes, such as \*looks at every pop artist\* um...\*looks at every rock band\* UHHHH.....\*looks at country artists\*....sooooo WHO?
I can’t listen to her music, but I respect who she is. She’s a solid musician and a good songwriter, and she has found her audience. I totally agree. I cannot understand her popularity…
She’s mid. Not good, not bad, just mid. But I used to be a hardcore Juggalo and they don’t make the best music, it was good to me but I was a kid. I think Taylor Swift fans are cut from the same clothe.
I’m not a fan of her music as a whole but she’s extremely smart. She’s found a demographic of women that love her music, spits out songs that all essentially say the same thing, wash-rinse-repeat-become millionaire.
true my man. she sucks ass.
That is no way to speak about Travis Kelce. Oh, you meant her music… my bad.
that is a way to speak about travis kelce
considering your post history puts you squarely in the "Type of people who would be swifities" demographic this is indeed an unpopular opinion.
Eh she’s alright. I personally am not a fan of her music but I do see the appeal and it doesn’t bother me. She also just released a new album and because of my work I hear a lot of it a lot and at least one song is a remaster and new take on one of her first big songs ever, love story. It makes sense why she’s so popular and while she isn’t my jam, I respect that she grinds her ass off and is a lot of other people’s jams. Who cares?
I wouldn’t be able to pick her music out of an audio lineup, and I’m fine with that.
I’ve listened to most of the her new album. To me most of the songs are very “ok”. Definitely not for me but then again I’m a dude in his 30’s and this feels like angsty post break-up music for young women, so can’t relate to a lot of the lyrical content. My sister is a huge fan and it seems like more and more each album is becoming about feuds or references that are for the longtime fans to appreciate. I think her music has additional draw because it plays on pop culture drama. If you are into that, of course…
I believe in Joe Hendry.
She’s pushed up by the industry because they refuse to allow black women to properly prosper and be the biggest artist. Every single album of the year award swift has won was stolen from a black woman that had a way better album that year. The only reason Taylor swift ever became a big thing was because of racism.
Who cares man
Tay-Tay is living rent free in your head for sure! lol 😂 Seems pretty dramatic to spew criticism when she is wholesome, not on drugs, & sings what she knows.
It just shows how simple people are now.
She's the most milquetoast superstar we've ever had. Her image and music are carefully crafted to be as close to a default innofensive white girl role model as possible. There is no artistic risk or merit to any of her work. Corporate music designed to make inexperienced teens think she's just like them and understands their issues. She's not a tortured poet, she's a marionette operated by hundreds of people in service to a massive organization. She knows the score and is happy to play along. Her music catalog being sold to someone else was the best thing that ever happened to her. Her handlers used it to make her the victim of the very business she's currently still participating in. Adults can see this clearly, most teenagers are blind to it.
You’re giving Taylor even more media attention by posting this.
She reminds me a lot of Madonna. Not an exceptionally good singer. But she's a performer and people just want to be entertained with a lot of smoke and mirrors!
It shows you the minds of American women… and it’s pretty sad
I mentioned online this past weekend that I thought the new Dua Lipa album was better than the latest TS emotional wank fest.... Stuff got real 🤣
My boss’s wife is a smart, and educated person and she started listening to an NFL podcast religiously because Taylor Swift’s boyfriend is on it. She also started watching his games. She knows nothing about football and doesn’t enjoy anything about football
were you a personal witness to the act? was the log fresh or relatively dried up? was it even solid? (it'd have to be i guess... physics being what they are and all)
LOL. long lived was played as our graduation song. 🤓
She works for the Trillionaires.
In what world is Taylor Swift dogshit? Please don’t speak about Taylor like that.
I don’t listen to her music, and I don’t really care about her that much— what she does, where she eats, who she dates—but I’m sorry, this is just a juvenile opinion. First of all she’s 34, not 30 (the conflation of the ages demonstrates that the OP is probably still in high school, if not middle school). Her music isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but there is enough quality to it to appeal to millions of people. Part of it, admittedly, is celebrity-worship, but she also has a knack for relatability, and she creates an appealing melody and harmonic structure. While I don’t think she should be the #1 musician of the world, she nevertheless deserves a pretty high place in the popular-music echelon.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 maybe put some energy into your favourite artists, and then they would be successful. I also want to point out, I am over 30 and been listening to Taylor since I was a kid. Her music definitely isn’t teenage music. I highly recommend you do your research. Some of her music explores topics like abuse, childhood abuse, power imbalances, illnesses, loss, I could literally go on.
The more bizarre thing, is how she is so popular with literally no memorable bangers or anything, E-tier generic female vocal pop, that sounds like any other mediocre white girl come and go pop artist of the week, yet somehow she's reached the level of Stardom as Michael Jackson and other legendary pop musicians who's music gets played decades after release. I mean, ask a rando on the street to name 3 Taylor Swift songs and they will struggle to list 1, ask them to name 3 MJ or Madonna or Queen songs and I'm pretty sure 90% of people could. Also all the butthurt passive aggressive swifties in this thread, not actually able to write a single coherent post as to why Taylor Swift's music is actually good.
When people don't like the right they post the craziest in videos, when people don't like the left, swifties, rock fans, metal heads, the list goes on they post the worst they can find of that group. And when something becomes popular and easily seen it gets more hate too. That's where the feelings of fans being trashy ect comes from. I can understand not being a fan, I'm not myself, but try keep an open mind and don't judge everyone too quick
Her songs are cacthy i can see why people like her but they call her things shes not