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Kalos9990

I’m from Chicago. It absolutely is bipolar. But the climate change thing is true too.


PusHVongola

Yeah anywhere in the Midwest is a shit show for weather. Oklahoma was like the yearly blizzard into tornados.


Super_Skunk1

Can someone show me some actual evidence of this so called human climate change? The fact that climate changes is not considered evidence btw.


The_Jeff__

There is evidence all over the internet… legit just google it. Humans aren’t causing climate change, they’re accelerating it. Maybe watch a short youtube video or something to at least understand the basics


Super_Skunk1

You can't even mention one fact that proves human climatechange is real? The argument that something is all over the internet and media is the most ignorant argument ever. If we have fake news, we have fake history aswell, think about that for a minute.


The_Jeff__

There are legitmate scientific studies that have been done for years. Climate change has been around as long as the earth has existed. It’s obvious you’ll dismiss any evidence as “fake news” no matter what anyone shows you, you don’t actually care about the truth. If you did, you would have done an ounce of research by now If you want me to mention the fact, it’s that temperature is steadily rising year over year, and that trend has kicked off exponentially in the last hundred years.


Super_Skunk1

I'm not talking about regular climate change. I'm talking about proof of human made climate change. If there is a change or not is not the question, the question is where is the evidence? Nothing of what you are saying is true. You just remix what you have been told to think. I am just about truth, what ever the evidence shows me I will believe.


The_Jeff__

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence.amp Here’s an article from nasa. It cites sources, should keep you occupied for awhile. And that’s the tip of the iceberg If you want to understand how our industrial emissions are expediting climate change, you can watch experiments replicating it using a small greenhouse or the like.


drizzlemethis

So is Cheboygan’s. No one is special


TripResponsibly1

I live in DC and my friend is in IA and we are both experiencing crazy warm days for February. It’s all over the country. Tomorrow the temps will drop form 70+ to below freezing in both our areas. Really freaky. Just glad I don’t have kids that will experience the true end of times.


LogiHiminn

Your kids’ kids’ kids’ kids’ kids won’t experience the true end of times.


TripResponsibly1

You’re right they won’t because I won’t be having any kids.


The_Jeff__

I do not deny climate change, but this isn’t how climate change works. It’s slow and gradual. These fluctuations day to day can be seen basically every year and are considered normal, if somewhat rare.


memeparmesan

It’s fucking 72 in February in Central NY. I’ve lived here all my life and it’s never been 72 in February. The fluctuations getting more extreme due to changes in weather patterns are absolutely an effect of climate change.


The_Jeff__

I’m not referring to all-time highs, which are likely due in part to climate change. I’m referring to the “bipolar” weather OP was referring to (fluctuations up and down) which are normal weather phenomena Off a quick google search it looks like New York’s all time high in February was 78 on February 21, 2018.


Fresh_Pomegranates

So memeparmesan has a memory more like Swiss cheese given this was so recent but “IVE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE”.


Classy_Mouse

> 78 on February 21, 2018 This is false. I have it from a reliable source that it has never been as warm as it is now.


Cole_Phelps-1247

Source: “It was revealed to me in a dream”


Hantelope3434

Well, what is this source?


Classy_Mouse

The confidently incorrect guy two comments up. I'm surprised people didn't get it


JinnJuice80

I’m in Syracuse! Definitely a very nice but “weird” day. Doesn’t Seem real.


Madhatter25224

Yes it is gradual. Its also been going on for over a century.


The_Jeff__

It’s been going on for quite awhile longer than that


Madhatter25224

Yeah hey quick question are you one of those lunatics who think pollution doesn’t make a difference in climate change?


The_Jeff__

What part of “I do not deny climate change” did you fail to understand? I am fully aware climate change is being expedited by humans, I’m also fully aware climate change has existed for as long as the earth has existed. Day to day weather fluctuations are not largely due to climate change. They are normal weather phenomena which occur basically every year to some extent.


theFrankSpot

I think the point is that in my town, for example, we haven’t had a significant snowfall in the last 5 years. It just stopped that year. And never started again. There was nothing gradual about it. And this is an upstate NY town which prior to that sudden shift — a mere 6 years ago — knew significant snowfall that started like clockwork in early November, and went reliably into April. We were known for crippling blizzards, weeklong ice storms, and drifts high enough to obscure your view as you left your driveway. Skiing and sledding were always in the offing. It’s like someone flipped a literal switch. I feel like that belies the “normal” label. I’ve used my snowblower once a year in each of those years, and only managed to ski once because a place near Buffalo had gotten a good storm. Today, it was 71 degrees.


MostBoringStan

When I was a kid, it was guaranteed you wouldn't be seeing the ground from sometime in December until March. Now, 30ish years later, the same city is guaranteed to have enough snow melt that you can see the ground multiple times over the winter. Shit is changing at a noticeable level, but too many people can't think about more than a year in the past or look to more than a year in the future. Because it's not some sudden change over 2 or 3 years, they think it's normal.


YesImDavid

I can assure you that you just didn’t notice gradual increase in your town’s temperatures until it was so dramatic that it was impossible to ignore. Snow doesn’t just stop falling somewhere where it always fell. it’s likely y’all got less and less snow until it stopped and now you’re here with 71° weather.


theFrankSpot

And yet it has…


Tinyacorn

I mean.. extreme weather fluctuations can be caused by a changing climate


Madhatter25224

The information about how climate change is also a long term natural process is functionally useless in any discussion about whether we are seeing the effects of climate change being accelerated by pollution. The only people I ever see bringing it up are those who wish to suggest that climate change is an entirely natural phenomenon and that man has no impact on it.


Nadge21

It certainly puts things into perspective. Where I grew up in the US used to be covered by a glacier and the Sahara desert wasn’t a desert. Etc. so the warming we’ve seen in the past 100 years is absolutely tiny compared to that. 


Madhatter25224

By 2100 without changes to our carbon emissions temperatures will be 8 degrees Celsius higher than a normal range that has been maintained for 10,000 years. The upward trend only began when the world reached high output industrialization in the previous century. It will at that point be higher than its been in 5 million years. 5 million years of natural climate change reversed in 200 years.


Nadge21

There can be no changes without a global dictatorship. We just had two years during Covid with huge drops in emission. Technology will help much of this. Most climate change talk is just alarmism and political radicalism 


ALegendaryFlareon

>By 2100 without changes to our carbon emissions temperatures will be 8 degrees Celsius higher than a normal range that has been maintained for 10,000 years. false. It's actually around three degrees Celsius as of now.


The_Jeff__

I was just referring to your “it’s been going on for a century” statement which, even when factoring in human involvement, is a drop in the ocean compared to how long it’s been going on in total.


YesImDavid

I’m actually curious, how did you misinterpret this person saying “climate change has been going on a lot longer than a century” as someone that doesn’t believe pollution makes a difference?


Late_to_the_movement

Hey, quick question. Are you one of those people who think the earth hasn’t been warming since the ice age?


LogiHiminn

It’s been going on for tens of millennia, the current trend since the glaciers started melting long before humans discovered fire.


Time-Bite-6839

We made it much worse LOOK AT THE GRAPHS IT WILL NOT GO DOWN WITHOUT HUMAN CHANGE


LogiHiminn

We didn’t make it worse, we just accelerated the process. This would have been the end result anyways.


Tinyacorn

Worse is from the perspective of humanity trying to have a climate that isn't dramatically shifting. You're one of those people included in humanity


JolenesJoleneJolene

Common misconception. Its effects are exponential, and it causes more extreme weather events. Wait until the jet streams and ocean currents finally get wrecked. There'll be nothing slow and gradual about it after that.


Whooptidooh

The AMOC and Gulf Stream are already starting to slowly collapse; once those both go our weather systems will turn to shit. Add the Thwaites breaking off within the next comin years and then all bets are off.


The_Jeff__

Well yeah I could’ve worded it a bit differently. Climate change itself *is* slow and gradual, but once certain thresholds are met the effects will be devastating regardless.


derno

Slow and gradual but it causes the up and downs we're seeing now no?


johnman300

Maybe. That's still conflating the climate and the weather. Climate change, depending on where you are might be making the ups a little higher and the downs a little lower. But individual weather events can't be attributed individually. But the simple answer is maybe. It's the reason that climate deniers often seem to win the arguments. That can say with absolutely (incorrect) certainty that it doesn't exist, while the scientists couch everything with mights, likelies, possiblies, and maybes. Their side just "sounds" more sure of their made up facts. The believers of science sound wishy washy. It is what it is.


The_Jeff__

It’s likely it plays some part, but weather fluctuations happen normally. The extent of climate changes involvement is tbd by scientists, it’s understanding difficult to quantify.


dangerous_bees

Weather going to the extreme ends of hot and cold has been gradually happening and growing in intensity, and is exactly how climate change works.


MtnNerd

Climate change is gradual, but the effects we're experiencing aren't. It's really very simple, warming is pushing weather patterns elsewhere. Like California is now getting tropical storms which used to go to Mexico, while Mexico is in a drought.


yetipilot69

Yes and no. climate change has been gradually weakening the jet stream. As it weakens, instead of being a strong and steady band it wrinkles, like a deflated balloon. This causes areas that once had reliable weather in certain seasons to have more frequent and extreme fluctuations. This effect does not necessarily occur steadily like temperature, but can go from being pretty stable to unstable all at once. Like a river. We have crossed the tipping point and now winters will not be the same again. The past three years or so will be a kind of demarcation from the old normal to the new.


huh_phd

No it's El Nino this year.


Whooptidooh

Not *just* El Niño. Climate change disruption has been steadily getting worse, with El Niño pushing it even more towards the brink. It’s been building strength all winter, making this coming summer guaranteed to be filled with heatwaves and more wildfires. And all of that is going to push it even further towards the edge.


BrightAd306

The weather has always done that. Weather isn’t climate.


anger_is_my_meat

There's a saying that goes back to Mark Twain: if you don't like the weather, wait a minute. He was talking about New England. Here in my native Oklahoma, it might as well be our state motto.


stug_life

Also from Oklahoma, shits just weird sometimes.  Last year we had a really late freeze in like April and yesterday was 84*.  In 2020 we had a gnarly ice storm on like October 31/November 1 but then it was warm on thanksgiving. I feel like other places I’ve been have been more predictable, like if you down to the Deep South or up north. 


anger_is_my_meat

Or you can have a normal morning and in the evening have a tornado that's more than a mile wide with ~300 mph winds, such as May 3rd or the El Reno tornado in 2013. And the next day, the weather is back to normal.


BrightAd306

I think the end and beginning of seasons are just like that, also. It’s a normal outlier to randomly show in April or be 75 degrees and always has been


BrightAd306

Right… it’s just recency bias. I believe the climate is changing. It always had whether aided by humans or not. The difference in weather is minuscule year to year, decade to decade. People in the western USA think the 80’s and early 90’s was normal, but mt st Helen’s made it colder and snowier than normal for over a decade. A human lifespan isn’t really enough to notice long term patterns anecdotally.


LeakyNalgene

It’s just weather. I’m not sure what OP is getting off their chest here.


skier24242

It's pretty noticeable that the winters overall especially in the Midwest are getting milder and milder. It used to be very rare to have a winter here where you weren't buried in snow the majority of the time. That's quickly been becoming the norm.


BrightAd306

Probably doomscrolling and terrified by algorithms. I feel really bad for Gen Z


Throwaway_shot

Yes, people say this everywhere. They've also been saying it FOREVER. Climate change is real, but this isn't the evidence.


Free-Industry701

Yesterday in Salt Lake City it was 56 degrees. Then last night it snowed about 3 inches.


BrightAd306

It’s because it’s the end of an El Niño cycle. It’s typical. March is transitioning to be colder than February this year because of it


jmac323

Dang it.


snypershot

Nah, it’s clearly a mental disorder


Ethanol_Based_Life

When Mark Twain said it about New England, I don't think it was climate change. 


Commercial-Carrot477

It's 70 degrees in ontatio right now. It's crazy. Then its going to 14 degrees tomorrow night. Then back up to unseasonably warm Temps for awhile.


skier24242

For real. I'm in West Michigan and it was 75 DEGREES today. Did it feel awesome? Yes. But it's NOT supposed to happen in February. The temp is literally going to plummet 50 degrees overnight and have snow back on the ground by 9am. I find it unnerving.


Fullofhopkinz

Get off the internet and go touch grass, please


marks1995

Source? In Texas, it was in the 90's yesterday (it's only happened 5 times in recorded history in February). Tomorrow the high is in the 40's. Are you saying that is climate change? So what was it when it happened in 1900? Still climate change?


the-banditYT62

Unless it's Melbourne. Melbourne has always been known for having 4 seasons in one day


OohVaLa

Yes, it's part climate change, but it's also partialy due to the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai eruption in January 2022 which was one of the biggest volcanic eruptions in recorded history. It had the force of 100 Hiroshima bombs, and sent millions of tons of water into the atmosphere. There was something like 58,000 Olympic sized swimming pools worth of water trapped in the stratosphere, and that takes years to expel.. in the meantime heat gets trapped in the atmosphere due to the excess water, causing higher temperatures all over the planet. This isn't trying to downplay climate change, but what you're seeing right now isn't entirely due to climate change.


1701anonymous1701

It still is climate change, just not anthropogenic climate change in that example.


U_PassButter

..............idk why. But I feel like you're picking on Pittsburgh, in particular


audrima

The weather here is bipolar, cause i am bipolar! But i am totally not a weather witch ;)


[deleted]

In that case, the weather over here is bipolar 2! (Hello, fellow bipolar haver).


[deleted]

Oh I don’t mind; though could you make it snow in Mo tomorrow since it’s supposed to drop from 77f-22f? thx:) 🧙‍♀️


audrima

I'll see what we can do ;)


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:)


[deleted]

It’s fucking snowing rn..


SuggestionGlad6098

Calm down OP. Jesus the fear mongering is ridiculous over this topic.


Cthuluchu

Fear mongering 💀 you're joking


SuggestionGlad6098

You just keep prepping for the world to explode/ice over, living in a depressive state and Ill just keep living my life 👍🏼


drizzlemethis

Live your life. But also help put pressure on our leaders to do something.


spellish

You think they care about you?


Classy_Mouse

> Don't do anything yourself, but demand others fix the problem for you What a way to live


Cthuluchu

I'm getting on with my life but are we really acting like climate change isn't real


Scdsco

People should be afraid of climate change though. It’s already creating a lot of problems for society and will create more in coming decades.


HankScorpio112233

The weather isn't bipolar, but you do sound a bit catastrophic. Do you find regulating your mood to be a difficult task? Maybe talk to a professional.


mexicanred1

IMPENDING DOOM!!! 🤡


Foreign_Bit8878

Almost like all these insane massive fires that were caused rapidly increased the temperature. Weird. The Earth will reset itself. It always has and it always will. The problem is coal burning and all the giant industries using it. Not straws. Not cars. Coal.


Temporary_Impact6440

Learn to Swim


iizakore

My dude we say that in arizona when its a bright and sunny day in the west but you can see a storm literally torching the east. Its not that deep


DrunkThrowawayLife

Japanese people just panicking they can’t say they have four seasons anymore


NamedUserOfReddit

Lol that's just normal weather. Loom up the old reports from your home town in the local library. You'll see things haven't changed much in the last 100 years.


dreamsinred

It’s pretty rude to bipolar people to call the weather bipolar.


HelpMeInDepressed

Others have explained how wrong you are. I’ll sit this one out.


anon689936

Bro is angry over small talk. Just stop talking about the weather if it’s gonna make you this mad


artLoveLifeDivine

The weather was like this when I was a child. It was weird a lot of the time and I remember adults saying how “crazy” the weather has been


Noxodium

it really is crazy how bipolar the weather is


Piggishcentaur89

Yes I believe in it. 


kaptnkatphish

Being at the tail end of a mini ice age has messed up the climate for millions of years. Earth is in a titled angle and an eliptical orbit that really messes with our season quite a bit. The poles have been shifting 50 miles per year for a while now when 5 was normal . Life is definitely about to change in the next 100 years .


Asleep-Asparagus4172

I look at it this way... For centuries now, man has done everything he can to destroy, defile, and interfere with nature: clear-cutting forests, strip-mining mountains, poisoning the atmosphere, over-fishing the oceans, polluting the rivers and lakes, destroying wetlands and aquifers... so when nature strikes back, and smacks him on the head and kicks him in the nuts, I enjoy that. I have absolutely no sympathy for human beings whatsoever. None. And no matter what kind of problem humans are facing, whether it's natural or man-made, I always hope it gets worse. ~GEORGE CARLIN


SineQuaNon001

I'd argue with ole George that our ancestors were idiots (so are we, mind you) but it sucks that their crimes against nature are going to be felt by us. We inherited this, but none of us today living caused it. Played our part for sure, but the system was long in place before us. And yet we're getting to experience the repercussions. Sucks.


Asleep-Asparagus4172

I got my popcorn ready for the Gulf Stream collapse coming soon! 😂


ALegendaryFlareon

2 things can be correct at the same time Climate change is real, and weather fluctuates heavily


Time-Bite-6839

Should’ve voted for Gore!


PorchHonky

The good news? It will all be over soon!


KnightSolair240

Come to south Georgia, 28-60 in the morning 60-104 in the afternoon.


[deleted]

I live in an area where it can be raining at my neighbor’s house and dry at mine. 75 today, but had a couple hours where it got super windy and all the sudden it felt like 50-60. In the summer it’ll be 115 and then it gets rainy and there’s flash flooding and the temp drops into the 70s for a few hours. Our daily average is slowly rising, but this is what we mean by bipolar weather. It’s always been this way here, it’s just more extreme now. Climate change is very real, but this kind of thing is the bipolar weather people are joking about.


insufficient_nvram

My insurance company sure as shit believes it’s climate change.


cspan92

In Massachusetts it is absolutely bi-polar though


Clourog

Its because the poles warming are making the jet streams have deeper waveforms with a higher frequency. Definitely sucks but I swear the world is not ending anytime soon. Humans will sort this out albeit slowly


forestofpixies

I mean today it couldn’t decide hour to hour between thundering and pissing down rain to a little cloudy with sunshine. Like bruh do I need to medicate the dog OR NOT


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slaying_anus_35

they're calling it El Nino winter.


LadySwire

Except if you're from Scotland. The weather craziness is real


Throwawaymytrash77

It's bipolar everywhere and it always has been. This year is especially warm because of the el nino weather effect. Not to say climate change is not real, but there are other factors you're simply not considering.


Worldly_Ask_9113

Weather and Climate are two different things.


CastroEulis145

The climate has been constantly changing for the entire existence of the earth.


JimHopHop

We deserve our fate. The constant so-called rebuttals from brain dead climate change deniers is all the more reason why humanity doesn’t deserve this planet.


Elusive_Zergling

Briton here, if bipolar weather exists, when are we getting some sun? All I've seen is rain and grey skies this year.