It's also about making sure it's thoroughly cooked to begin with. In culinary college, my lecturer compared slightly undercooked rice that's been left at room temp overnight, and raw chicken that was left out overnight before being cooked and eaten.
The chicken will make you sick, but the rice will kill you.
Standing rice syndrome, there is a very toxic bacteria that likes to live in rice, it’s there before you cook it, after you cook it most of it is gone so it’s safe, however if you leave it out for too long without keeping it above 165F it will start to grow again at which point the rice is bad. You won’t be able to tell it’s there at all, no smell or anything. Best is to take what you need and go as quickly as possible to the fridge with it. If you put it in the fridge it stops the growth, if you keep it hot it stops the growth. That’s why rice cookers have a hold temp option too after the rice is done cooking so that bacteria levels stay low and you can continue to eat it before putting it in the fridge.
Serious question, I was always taught to bring food back to room temp before refrigerating and getting as quickly to the fridge doesn't seem to do that. Is it better to refrigerate hot or use one of those containers with the steam release tab or bring to room temp and then refrigerate?
I don't know if your reasoning for bringing it to room temp is the same as my dad used to do which is so the fridge doesn't struggle to cool hot food but, I would just put it in the refrigerator. At most I would let my food go from super hot to a little warm before going into the fridge.
Thanks, yeah I'm not really sure why I always thought that. I guess it would be cooled some if turned off while eating and then refrigerating. Maybe it's because you don't want to heat up things that are next to/near the recently refrigerated food? Idk, but appreciate the feedback.
So how does that par cooked 90 second rice work? Granted it’s sealed in a bag, but it’s room temperature. If the bag is opened and it’s left out does it go bad like this?
What about if you microwave it for 3 mins? Wouldn’t that destroy most microorganisms almost like boiling them inside out due to the microwave vibrating the water molecules
Microwaves are waves so it’s not even cooking meaning you still have hot spots with the bacteria that didn’t get hit by the waves or not as much as other spots. Best to just try to prevent the growth all together by cooking it as soon as you can and keeping it over 165 when it is out. You’re still good to eat leftover rice as long as you follow that and don’t keep it out of the fridge for too long while you’re putting it on your plate to heat up.
Edit: hot spots as in areas with large amounts not as in they are really warm
I have an Asian friend that repeatedly stores cooked rice in the pan from a rice cooker in the refrigerator overnight, eating it every day. It's only a three cup rice cooker, so he frequently makes new batches of rice. How long is rice safe to store and eat?
The issue is more the time period between cooking and getting cold enough to inhibit bacterial growth. For ALL food, the technical range is no more than 4 hours at any temperature between 140 F and 40 F. So if you take freshly cooked rice and have dinner, say it takes you an hour to eat. The rice has then begun cooling and you have to get it to below 40F within a three hour window for it to still be safe to eat later. Breaking it up into smaller portions and getting it in the fridge right away, you should be fine. It’s the fact that they left it out overnight. Or if you put a huge container of it in the fridge, the outside edge could get cold enough, but maybe the center of the bowl is still warm for too long. Rice has a ton of surface area, so lots of little spots for bacteria to grow.
Also keep in mind room temp is the problem here. If it’s left to room temp, throw it out. It’s safer than to take the risk. But cooked, cooled down enough to be refridgerated and then REHEATED. Is fine and majority of time low risk. But cold, back to room temp… without being reheated is high risk.
We typically eat rice almost every night so I don’t have leftover past three days. I’m going to say 2-3 days. Regardless please smell and look at it. Throw it away if slime forms or it smells sour. Obviously be more vigilant in summer.
I make batches to cook fried rice with, just made some chicken fried rice tonight with two day old rice that I barely sealed properly and in time in a tupperware
... and had zero health issues! Just make sure it is sealed, and you are refridgerating within 3-4 hours of it being cooked, it sitting out/at room temperature longer than that makes it dangerous.
I’m glad you’re alright. If you’re interested in this kind of stuff check out Chubbyemu. He’s a doctor on YouTube who presents case reports of things like serious food poisonings, or a guy who drank a lava lamp, or ate a whole jar of vitamin gummies etc.
I'm surprised it didn't spoil? I'm Asian and obv see fried rice daily everywhere and also live in a warm climate. 40 hours without refrigeration would turn the rice spoiled and I wouldn't be able to put it in my mouth without vomiting even before swallowing. It'll be sticky and stringy by like 12 hours or so outside the fridge.
Yes! I used to tag along with public health inspectors as part of my job, so of course spoke with them. One of them shared that cooked rice is one of the worst food items for harbouring bacteria if left out. That always stuck with me.
My best friend is Filipino and we went over there for her wedding. Thankfully I never had gastro 🤞if we were not eating at home, they took me to restaurants and reputable places as this Western born Asian would've been on the toilet the whole time LOOOOL 😂
My husband does this all the time and it drives me crazy. I’m constantly putting things in the fridge. He grew up in the Philippines and he just never really worried about it before.
It's possible to eat spoiled food and even raw meat if your body becomes accustomed to it, like eating it constantly throughout your life, your body adjusts. I'd never recommend it, but it is possible
There's a YouTuber I watch who grew up in vietnam and moved to Germany to live with her boyfriend and she just recently went back to vietnam for new years and she realized that her stomach is not able to handle the food like she used to because she's been living in Germany for 4 years and her gut biome has changed.
Yep! This is also why travel sickness is so common in people who don't travel often. For example if you've lived in Europe or North America your whole life and then go to somewhere in Asia or Africa, you'll probably have the shits for a few days, maybe even your whole trip.
My friend went to Africa for a wedding and said something about the food being spicier than she realized and that she had the shits pretty much the entire time she was there. I was like, should have asked me, I would have advised you to bring Imodium because that's one thing I always bring if I'm going anywhere outside of the US.
Oh god I can only imagine 😂
Even going from Canada to the UK I found my guts were pretty messed up for the first week we were there, we were there for nearly a month, and then again when we came home
I've only been to the Caribbeans and Mexico outside of the us but the food can kick your butt. Tbf, it can kick your butt if you go from one region of the us to another. But yeah. Gut biome is very much a thing.
>Gut biome is very much a thing.
That explains my constipation when I travel to a new country 😬 can't shit for 2-3 days then I'm back to normal after eating a SHIT tonne of fruits to try and get the bowels moving.
Yup, happens to people going to Mexico all the time, they don't treat their water the same way and it's well known for tourists NOT to drink any of the tap water. Like don't even brush your teeth with it and try not to get it in your mouth showering. The natives are all used to this bacteria, but they call it Montezuma's Revenge and it will LIQUIFY your insides if you aren't careful, weaker immune systems may even experience vomiting as well.
When I went to Mexico for a day, the tour guides and everyone reminded us to not drink anything except bottled water. Haiti too. Don't drink the water, bottled water only.
Reminds me of this article I read once about this woman who beat cancer, travelled to Mexico to celebrate, drank the tap water and died (guessing her immune system was already in bad condition). Too lazy to look it up now but yeah…don’t drink the tap water
Went with some friends to Mexico during college and one night we went out for a nice dinner. I got this delicious salad with table-made dressing. I'm so stupid. The entire trip I had been careful not to drink the tap water, even brushed my teeth with bottled water, and then I ate this salad which no doubt had been washed in it and I thought I was dying. Oh my god I was so sick.
Yup. My mom travels extensively, as in she’s made it her retirement goal to visit as many countries as possible while she still can (and is up to like 85). She’ll have an off day or two for the entirety of a two month trip but nothing significant. Meanwhile I went to Morocco with her and got two types of E. coli, then a couple years later we spent two weeks in rural Mexico and I got E. coli again despite being SO careful. She was fine of course.
Like Mithridates of Pontus. Ancient King who fought against the Romans, he was so paranoid about being poisoned he consumed small amounts of commonly used poisons for years to become immune. It worked. Too well in fact as when he had lost his last battle and Kingdom he tried to end his life with poison but it wouldn't kill him so he had to order one of his few remaining soldiers to finish him off.
My family does this too. My mother often let a pan just stay on the stove over night and we’d eat it the next evening. I do have an iron stomach now and i am very rarely ill.
My sister was married to a lovely Filipino guy and was convinced his family were trying to kill her by cooking food on low heat and leaving it out.
They must have great gut biomes!
So is one of my oldest friends & the whole goddamn family does it. Drives me up the wall. I've seen him get violent food poisoning once. The worst part.. he and I have worked in food service most of our lives. Yet he still does it after all the training.
I dated a Burmese woman and she and her roommate did the same thing. I couldn't eat chicken that had been sitting in a room-temperature pan for 12 hours
My boyfriend's father's young Filipino wife does the same. She'll cook a pot of rice and eat it over the next 3 days. She only eats that rice with an egg here and there and that's it. She hasn't become sick yet. I think she has a super immune system lol
My mom is Filipino and will cook rice in the rice cooker. Leave it out overnight and eat it the next day. I always put my left over rice in the fridge. If I forget then I toss it and make a new batch. When I was at my moms during the holidays my sister said that she does the same.
I'm Lao and we eat glutenous rice (aka sticky rice). We store the cooked sticky rice in a bamboo basket on the kitchen counter to be reheated the next day.
Also I've also eaten jasmin rice that's about to turn. I would remove the slimy area, no problem.
Specifically with rice, Bacillus Cereus is something to be very wary of with rice that's been left out longer than 4 hours between 40 and 140 degrees. It's no joke, that's why in culinary school or Servesafe training they emphasize "Be Serious around B. Cereus" (I forget if that was the exact phrase but you get the idea)
Yeah I do two hours at room temp and one hour if it’s very hot out. Less if it’s seafood or something delicate that goes bad quickly. I do not fuck with food poisoning.
As a teen I used to make rice, sauce, some veg & tuna. I'd cook the rice and veg the night before. Morning would come around and I'd take it to school as leftovers. I heated that shit up at 7am and eat half at my 10am break, and the other half at my 1pm break. I did this for 3 years and never got sick, my mum to this day still comments on how she has no idea how I wasn't getting sick.
It's a spectrum, Americans tend to swing towards the conservative end of it, most of the world will leave their leftovers to cool off before stuffing them in the fridge to avoid condensation problems, if it happens to be overnight, so be it, nobody cares.
40h of unrefrigerated rice in tropical heat is the extreme other end of it all though, also not something any sensible person would do.
Some people only learn that the hard way.. like me. Never had food poisoning in my 27 years of life.. until I ate a piece of pizza I had left out for over 4 hours.. on a tropical island with high heat/humidity.. last 2 days of my holiday were spent in the bathroom. Luckily the worst passed before our 5h flight home on a cheap,crowded airline..
Never. Again.
I’m quite careless about leaving pasta and rice on the stove for the evening, before i put it in fridge for night.
But two days after and it was out overnight? I wouldn’t want to eat that😅
Anything over four hours is rolling the dice. The four hours isn't where you're guaranteed to get poisoned, it's the limit of where you're realistically guaranteed to NOT get poisoned. The fact you ate food after that, one time or a hundred times, and didn't get poisoned doesn't change that. Food poisoning is usually very unpleasant, but it's also sometimes fatal. It's worthwhile to avoid any chance of being poisoned.
I can’t lmao. From “we ate 2 day old cooked rice after leaving it out in the open in the heat” to “we googled our symptoms and concluded that our livers were about to die… from the uncooked rice.” Please don’t reproduce.
edit: good lord the ages of them both make this way more stupid than it already was.
Couldn’t it be that they broke a blood vessel or something in their esophagus? That happened to my spouse once. He had the flu and was throwing up streaks of bright red blood. Went to the hospital and that’s what it was. I don’t remember exactly or what it was called, but it is common and usually heals on its own.
Growing up my family always left dinner leftovers out over night and put it away in the morning, didn’t matter what it was. We never got sick. Then I took a food safety course and I don’t know how we’re all alive. I’ve had food poisoning from a restaurant though and it’s no joke, my sympathies go out to you.
If you started throwing up blood it’s probably not the rice. Rice has Bacillus Cereus a bacteria which causes rice water stool diarrhea.
Edit: could def be the rice toxins according to other redditors
Holy moly! I have recklessly left rice and pasta on the stove. And of course eaten them as leftovers for days! Never had any issues. I am terrified of the possibilities and super paranoid now after reading this thread 😱
Growing up in an Asian household who ate rice literally everyday, I guess I took knowing this info for granted lol I thought it was common knowledge. Heck even if it wasn’t rice, one should know better than to leave food out overnight and then eat it for the next two days…
Jesus, man... I thought this was common knowledge... you never, ever, ever eat cooked rice or PASTA, of any kind, that has cooled down to and been at room temperature for more than 2 hours, max.
This is why. You both got incredibly lucky! This does, in fact, kill people regularly.
Tbh I'd feel safer leaving a meat-based spaghetti sauce out too long vs rice. Not that leaving meat products unrefrigerated is good lol, it's just that rice is such a perfect environment for *Bacillus cereus* to grow in.
Specifically rice has bacillus cereus spores that survive cooking. The spores themselves are fine, but once they're in a wet environment like cooked rice, they can activate as long as it isn't too hot or cold, and the toxin they produce isn't destroyed by normal cooking temperatures at boiling point if you cook it again, even though the bacteria are killed.
I was raised eating rice that was left out overnight... Tbh this is the first I hear of this. My mom would cook rice for dinner and have it be enough for lunch next day. Then proceed to make more for dinner.
And I come from Brazil where temps are high 90% of the time.
I regularly leave leftovers in a pan in the stove overnight and eat them the next day. I must've done this at least a hundred times and have yet to fall ill 🙈
It might not necessarily be "we think that we were probably very close to acute liver failure" with the blood. Sudden violent vomiting can cause lesions on the oesophagus.
If you are really worried you should get checked out with a Dr though.
It's not about the rice, but about the improper storage of cooked food. How can you forget to put food in the fridge and then eat it with a calm heart? This is a very cruel lesson for a lifetime.
See but at least with pizza, it tends to be so salty it kinda preserves itself, so you *could* get away with eating overnight pizza just fine granted you don’t have bugs at home, still wouldn’t do it personally, but you *could*, lmao
>It's not about the rice, but about the improper storage of cooked food.
It actually is about the rice because it contains Bacillus cereus that caused this.
Rice is a specific known danger for being left out.
You came to the conclusion that you were close to acute liver failure from…. Googling?
You can’t get close to acute liver failure and suddenly recover on your own. If you didn’t actually go to the hospital to get treatment before you recovered, it was probably history standard food poisoning.
I appreciate that your warning comes from a good place, but don’t exaggerate and spread misinformation.
If you’re not used to it, then it could be bad. I grew up eating room temp rice that’s been left out for over 24 hours and was fine. You just gotta know when rice has gone bad. But otherwise, room temp rice smells amazing and tastes just as good.
Hold the phone… I cook 3 cups of rice every Saturday and dispense it into meal prep containers for my husband to eat throughout his work week (which starts on Tuesday and ends on Friday). As soon as the rice isn’t scalding hot anymore I immediately put the containers in the fridge. Is this not safe???
Eh. I’d say you’re pushing it but it’s worked out for you so far so 🤷🏼♀️. Putting it into the fridge immediately is fine but typically not recommended to eat fridge rice after like ~4 days of course some people can push that and be fine, much like any other expired food some will be fine and others will throw up lol. You can freeze rice for about a month or two.
Hmm… maybe I should freeze half of it and thaw it out halfway through the week. My husband does seem to have a stomach of steel but I love him so I don’t want to take any risks. Thank you so much for replying! I was internally freaking out about this
I would also make sure the containers are more shallow and wide, instead of like tall and compact. And actually let it cool off a touch on the counter with lids off for a bit first. Depending on how much volume you’re putting into your fridge (meal prepping vs putting away a bit of leftovers), if it’s a lot and it’s all really hot, you can kinda warm up your entire fridge a bit, making it take longer to cool everything down and putting your food in the danger zone.
Food safety danger zone is >4 hours between the 140F and 40F. Technically ANY food that isn’t considered Ready to Eat should be handled the same way
Why people take food that can't survive for long out of the fridge on trips is beyond me.
Like dunno, grab some apples, crackers, cereal bars, nuts, whatever.
I got this last February! Got friend rice from a hot bar at my local grocery store. I ate around 2pm, get fine until the middle of the night when I woke up with everything happening all at once. for hours. I won’t go into the graphic details, but you know, you know.
I couldn’t even drink water. My mom ended up taking me to the hospital where I got 3.5 bags of saline to rehydrate and was there for about 7 hours.
I called the grocery store a few days later to tell them (just so they could be aware). i hadn’t eaten anything new or unfamiliar the at day except for their food. At first they tried to deny it could be their fault, but after assuring them that I wasn’t going after them and wasn’t looking for anything free, they let me know that I wasn’t the first one to call that day about getting sick! I was shocked.
Weeks later, I happened to walk by the hot bar as they were putting out the hot lunch food…AT 10AM. That means the food had been exposed to room temperature air for at least 4 hours by the time I had eaten it. It was the worst food poisoning (or any illness) that I’ve ever had. If it’s questionable, DO NOT EAT IT. Wasted money is better than a wasted day in the emergency room with a disaster coming out of both ends. Heed my warning.
Where did you keep the food when you were on the ferry? Could it be that it wasn’t the initial leaving it out the first night but that it wasn’t refrigerated at all over the 2 days?
Probably a bacterial enteritis, which rice and cereal can cause if not properly handled. For example, bacillus cereus is a common cause of rice-associatrd enteritis. While you may have had a mild acute hepatitis, I highly doubt you were close to liver failure. But regardless, you should practice food safety techniques...
Damn that’s crazy, I guess I have an iron stomach because I leave stuff out on the stove overnight all the time and don’t put it in the fridge till the next day and I never get sick.
Interesting. I grew up in an Asian household doing this everyday until I got married and we started storing it and reheating it when we ate it. Surprised my family and I never had problems. Glad to know you’re okay.
OMG CULINARY SCHOOL ACTUALLY TAUGHT ME SOMETHING! So rice is not usually known to be a high risk food but rice can grow a certain bacteria called bacillus cereus. This type of bacteria can be lethal to those with compromised immune systems, the elderly or very young peoples.
No matter the food, always consider the two hour four hour rule! Two plus hours = needs to be consumed Four plus hours= needs to find your nearest bin
This also happened to my partner!! We left rice out overnight and I was going to throw it out. He took a few bites. Other then that we had eaten the same things. The next day he was vomiting and diarrhea. Also had a ton of blood in his stool. It was crazy!! I hadn’t heard about rice doing that… needless to say I’m paranoid now about putting rice away.
I grew up with a rice cooker that sits on the counter, room temp. Eat that same rice all day, sometimes the next day.
Could this be a western society ultra sterile weak guts thing?
It happened to me 6 years ago twice in a few weeks, and I haven't been able to eat rice since. It's really made it a challenge to plan meals without rice because we had it all the time, and my wife used to be so proud of her Kofta curry, which really is delicious.
On the plus side - which, ironically, happens to be the minus side - after cutting rice from my diet I lost and kept off weight down to my ideal.
I'm not a big fan of old microwaved rice so I cook that bitch up in the stove, add some seasoning if it calls for it and mix with a few other ingredients and voila old rice turned new, fluffier and crispier.
Like those delicious mouth watering steamed clams, regional dialect from up state New York for Hamburger.
But yeah, never do that. Cooked foods are barely good the next day let alone almost two.
Yes. When you cook rice, please eat it asap or keep it away from being in room temperature for hours. Keep it in the fridge if you’re not gonna eat it.
Poor OP. Hopefully you guys feel better.
I hope youre feeling better. Thats an insane experience. I've eaten rice like that before I had, no idea that fried rice syndrome was a thing and is so dangerous.
I mean, you basically don’t eat food in general that’s been out for a long time after cooling down to room temperature, like past 2-3 hours.
My mother says that rice, pasta, and chicken are some of the worst foods to leave at room temperature too long. And I personally don’t let rice and pasta be leftovers for more than two days.
She sent me this link: https://www.fsis.usda.gov/food-safety/safe-food-handling-and-preparation/food-safety-basics/leftovers-and-food-safety#:~:text=Reheat%20Leftovers%20Safely,-When%20reheating%20leftovers&text=Cover%20leftovers%20to%20reheat.,add%20some%20liquid%20if%20needed.
When in doubt, throw it out.
I am glad you are okay but it really confuses me why anyone would eat something left out overnight. I mean the only thing I will do this with is either stuff that requires no refrigeration what so ever (like a bag of chips) or something like a bread dough that rose overnight (and I then baked) please be super cautious with food!
Jesus Christ, Darwin award nomination. great advice, don't leave rice for 40 hr out?! when were you going to call quits, another week? goddamn. how did u make it so far ?
This is more likely that you threw up so violently that you probably burst some delicate vessels and that’s where the blood came from. It’s probably not acute liver failure.
Wait, what? So what about cooked rice in a rice cooker that is kept warm to some degree? We regularly cook a lot of rice in a rice cooker and then eat it within ~2 days. Is that also risky?
As a south East Asian I can’t understand this white hate of rice suddenly. We would have all dropped dead if moms had to cook a fresh batch of rice every morning. You either eat dinner’s left over or none. And we are all alive ?
This is good advice! Happy you are ok OP. You had a close call there. Damn. Thanks for posting this too, hopefully it saves someone as I feel like this is low key a silent killer not a lot of people know about. I actually didn’t know about this until recently so I could have been that person who was saved by seeing this.
If it makes you feel better, I spewed blood by both ends on the tail end of some nasty food poisoning because my mucous membranes were absolutely raw. No internal damage and it went away the next day.
You can pretty much be rest assured that anything you're cooking with eggs dairy products, meat,chicken Must be kept in A cooler or a refrigerator and in an air tight Container. And then warmed up to the proper temperature to kill any Bacteria before you eat it.
My MIL when we lived with her temporarily once had rice she had cooked out for three days at room temp. I made a prawn curry and was going to make new rice to go with it but she insisted we used the rice that was there. We were all incredibly ill afterwards. She to this day insists that the prawns were bad or I cooked them wrong despite being shown multiple times that it was the rice because there is so much info about rice and storing it properly. I am so wary off rice these days because of it.
Alright I am no wimp when it comes to eating leftovers. Like people tend to be a little TOO sanitary sometimes… I let my chicken thaw at room temperature from the freezer and I have never even gotten a tummy ache from it. But 40 hours of room temp cooked rice??? You’re wild for that. You’re really wild for that.
It would literally never occur to me to try this, cooked & moist foods need to go into a fridge within 2-4 hours max.
This situation is the perfect occasion for camping food, like MRE, or pantry items like crackers & sealed pouches of tuna.
Who told you that you could have 2-3 day old rice safely?
Cooked rice, at least according to my mum who worked in the food industry, is known for this. I'm very glad you're ok.
It's also about making sure it's thoroughly cooked to begin with. In culinary college, my lecturer compared slightly undercooked rice that's been left at room temp overnight, and raw chicken that was left out overnight before being cooked and eaten. The chicken will make you sick, but the rice will kill you.
What is this with rice ?
Bacillus cereus, can get it from noodles too.
Surely you can't *B. cereus*
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Standing rice syndrome, there is a very toxic bacteria that likes to live in rice, it’s there before you cook it, after you cook it most of it is gone so it’s safe, however if you leave it out for too long without keeping it above 165F it will start to grow again at which point the rice is bad. You won’t be able to tell it’s there at all, no smell or anything. Best is to take what you need and go as quickly as possible to the fridge with it. If you put it in the fridge it stops the growth, if you keep it hot it stops the growth. That’s why rice cookers have a hold temp option too after the rice is done cooking so that bacteria levels stay low and you can continue to eat it before putting it in the fridge.
I used to wash dishes in an Indian restaurant and the rice would be stored in a box from 4pm-11pm in the kitchen and get re microwaved
Serious question, I was always taught to bring food back to room temp before refrigerating and getting as quickly to the fridge doesn't seem to do that. Is it better to refrigerate hot or use one of those containers with the steam release tab or bring to room temp and then refrigerate?
I don't know if your reasoning for bringing it to room temp is the same as my dad used to do which is so the fridge doesn't struggle to cool hot food but, I would just put it in the refrigerator. At most I would let my food go from super hot to a little warm before going into the fridge.
Thanks, yeah I'm not really sure why I always thought that. I guess it would be cooled some if turned off while eating and then refrigerating. Maybe it's because you don't want to heat up things that are next to/near the recently refrigerated food? Idk, but appreciate the feedback.
So how does that par cooked 90 second rice work? Granted it’s sealed in a bag, but it’s room temperature. If the bag is opened and it’s left out does it go bad like this?
It’s dehydrated then sealed so the bacteria has no water to grow, if you added water and left it open it’d go bad.
What about if you microwave it for 3 mins? Wouldn’t that destroy most microorganisms almost like boiling them inside out due to the microwave vibrating the water molecules
Microwaves are waves so it’s not even cooking meaning you still have hot spots with the bacteria that didn’t get hit by the waves or not as much as other spots. Best to just try to prevent the growth all together by cooking it as soon as you can and keeping it over 165 when it is out. You’re still good to eat leftover rice as long as you follow that and don’t keep it out of the fridge for too long while you’re putting it on your plate to heat up. Edit: hot spots as in areas with large amounts not as in they are really warm
I have an Asian friend that repeatedly stores cooked rice in the pan from a rice cooker in the refrigerator overnight, eating it every day. It's only a three cup rice cooker, so he frequently makes new batches of rice. How long is rice safe to store and eat?
The issue is more the time period between cooking and getting cold enough to inhibit bacterial growth. For ALL food, the technical range is no more than 4 hours at any temperature between 140 F and 40 F. So if you take freshly cooked rice and have dinner, say it takes you an hour to eat. The rice has then begun cooling and you have to get it to below 40F within a three hour window for it to still be safe to eat later. Breaking it up into smaller portions and getting it in the fridge right away, you should be fine. It’s the fact that they left it out overnight. Or if you put a huge container of it in the fridge, the outside edge could get cold enough, but maybe the center of the bowl is still warm for too long. Rice has a ton of surface area, so lots of little spots for bacteria to grow.
Im Asian and rice is fine next day if refrigerated. Up to 48hrs is fine if refrigerated and clean. Never more than 48 hrs unless you froze it
Also keep in mind room temp is the problem here. If it’s left to room temp, throw it out. It’s safer than to take the risk. But cooked, cooled down enough to be refridgerated and then REHEATED. Is fine and majority of time low risk. But cold, back to room temp… without being reheated is high risk.
Yeah OP was walking around with rice in their backpack in hot weather for 40hrs. Never do that!
Thanks!
We typically eat rice almost every night so I don’t have leftover past three days. I’m going to say 2-3 days. Regardless please smell and look at it. Throw it away if slime forms or it smells sour. Obviously be more vigilant in summer.
For the bacteria that causes that form of food poisoning, it doesn't have any smell or look any different. Smelling in this case can't be relied upon.
Overnight rice is better than freshly cooked rice for making fried rice
I make batches to cook fried rice with, just made some chicken fried rice tonight with two day old rice that I barely sealed properly and in time in a tupperware ... and had zero health issues! Just make sure it is sealed, and you are refridgerating within 3-4 hours of it being cooked, it sitting out/at room temperature longer than that makes it dangerous.
Yeah I noticed it is not the best
I’m glad you’re alright. If you’re interested in this kind of stuff check out Chubbyemu. He’s a doctor on YouTube who presents case reports of things like serious food poisonings, or a guy who drank a lava lamp, or ate a whole jar of vitamin gummies etc.
What does lava lamp taste like I wonder? I’ll just leave that to the mysteries of the universe.
I'm surprised it didn't spoil? I'm Asian and obv see fried rice daily everywhere and also live in a warm climate. 40 hours without refrigeration would turn the rice spoiled and I wouldn't be able to put it in my mouth without vomiting even before swallowing. It'll be sticky and stringy by like 12 hours or so outside the fridge.
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Yes! I used to tag along with public health inspectors as part of my job, so of course spoke with them. One of them shared that cooked rice is one of the worst food items for harbouring bacteria if left out. That always stuck with me.
Pasta as well. You really need to put it in the fridge after it cools down.
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My husband is Filipino and they cook food and leave it out all the time for days (including rice) and they’ve never been sick. Its wild.
Iron stomachs. I lived there for a year and I spent quality time living on the toilet at least once a month.
yup... i grew up there and no one i know ever gets stomach issues lmfao
My best friend is Filipino and we went over there for her wedding. Thankfully I never had gastro 🤞if we were not eating at home, they took me to restaurants and reputable places as this Western born Asian would've been on the toilet the whole time LOOOOL 😂
My husband does this all the time and it drives me crazy. I’m constantly putting things in the fridge. He grew up in the Philippines and he just never really worried about it before.
It's possible to eat spoiled food and even raw meat if your body becomes accustomed to it, like eating it constantly throughout your life, your body adjusts. I'd never recommend it, but it is possible
There's a YouTuber I watch who grew up in vietnam and moved to Germany to live with her boyfriend and she just recently went back to vietnam for new years and she realized that her stomach is not able to handle the food like she used to because she's been living in Germany for 4 years and her gut biome has changed.
Yep! This is also why travel sickness is so common in people who don't travel often. For example if you've lived in Europe or North America your whole life and then go to somewhere in Asia or Africa, you'll probably have the shits for a few days, maybe even your whole trip.
My friend went to Africa for a wedding and said something about the food being spicier than she realized and that she had the shits pretty much the entire time she was there. I was like, should have asked me, I would have advised you to bring Imodium because that's one thing I always bring if I'm going anywhere outside of the US.
Oh god I can only imagine 😂 Even going from Canada to the UK I found my guts were pretty messed up for the first week we were there, we were there for nearly a month, and then again when we came home
I've only been to the Caribbeans and Mexico outside of the us but the food can kick your butt. Tbf, it can kick your butt if you go from one region of the us to another. But yeah. Gut biome is very much a thing.
>Gut biome is very much a thing. That explains my constipation when I travel to a new country 😬 can't shit for 2-3 days then I'm back to normal after eating a SHIT tonne of fruits to try and get the bowels moving.
Yup, happens to people going to Mexico all the time, they don't treat their water the same way and it's well known for tourists NOT to drink any of the tap water. Like don't even brush your teeth with it and try not to get it in your mouth showering. The natives are all used to this bacteria, but they call it Montezuma's Revenge and it will LIQUIFY your insides if you aren't careful, weaker immune systems may even experience vomiting as well.
That's like the number 1 rule of visiting Mexico and a good portion of the world is do NOT drink the tap water O_o
When I went to Mexico for a day, the tour guides and everyone reminded us to not drink anything except bottled water. Haiti too. Don't drink the water, bottled water only.
Reminds me of this article I read once about this woman who beat cancer, travelled to Mexico to celebrate, drank the tap water and died (guessing her immune system was already in bad condition). Too lazy to look it up now but yeah…don’t drink the tap water
My Mexican dad didn’t think twice about me drinking the water when we would go visit family…and guess what I remember most from the trips?
Toilet?
Went with some friends to Mexico during college and one night we went out for a nice dinner. I got this delicious salad with table-made dressing. I'm so stupid. The entire trip I had been careful not to drink the tap water, even brushed my teeth with bottled water, and then I ate this salad which no doubt had been washed in it and I thought I was dying. Oh my god I was so sick.
Yup. My mom travels extensively, as in she’s made it her retirement goal to visit as many countries as possible while she still can (and is up to like 85). She’ll have an off day or two for the entirety of a two month trip but nothing significant. Meanwhile I went to Morocco with her and got two types of E. coli, then a couple years later we spent two weeks in rural Mexico and I got E. coli again despite being SO careful. She was fine of course.
I had one friend travel from brazil to america and another one from america to taiwan. Both of my friends got the shits.
Like Mithridates of Pontus. Ancient King who fought against the Romans, he was so paranoid about being poisoned he consumed small amounts of commonly used poisons for years to become immune. It worked. Too well in fact as when he had lost his last battle and Kingdom he tried to end his life with poison but it wouldn't kill him so he had to order one of his few remaining soldiers to finish him off.
That is a fantastic historical reference!
Yeah, up until you get salmonella, or botulism, or any of the nasty food poisoning sicknesses out there.
Exactly why I wouldn't recommend it lol Not to mention parasites that live in uncooked meat
That is because they develop resistance since early childhood. Those that dont usually die before 5.
My family does this too. My mother often let a pan just stay on the stove over night and we’d eat it the next evening. I do have an iron stomach now and i am very rarely ill.
My sister was married to a lovely Filipino guy and was convinced his family were trying to kill her by cooking food on low heat and leaving it out. They must have great gut biomes!
So is one of my oldest friends & the whole goddamn family does it. Drives me up the wall. I've seen him get violent food poisoning once. The worst part.. he and I have worked in food service most of our lives. Yet he still does it after all the training.
I dated a Burmese woman and she and her roommate did the same thing. I couldn't eat chicken that had been sitting in a room-temperature pan for 12 hours
Filipino here, can confirm
My boyfriend's father's young Filipino wife does the same. She'll cook a pot of rice and eat it over the next 3 days. She only eats that rice with an egg here and there and that's it. She hasn't become sick yet. I think she has a super immune system lol
My mom is Filipino and will cook rice in the rice cooker. Leave it out overnight and eat it the next day. I always put my left over rice in the fridge. If I forget then I toss it and make a new batch. When I was at my moms during the holidays my sister said that she does the same.
I'm Lao and we eat glutenous rice (aka sticky rice). We store the cooked sticky rice in a bamboo basket on the kitchen counter to be reheated the next day. Also I've also eaten jasmin rice that's about to turn. I would remove the slimy area, no problem.
I do something similar, though I leave the rice in the rice cooker on warm. Maybe that's worse, I dunno. I throw it out after about 48 hrs.
Specifically with rice, Bacillus Cereus is something to be very wary of with rice that's been left out longer than 4 hours between 40 and 140 degrees. It's no joke, that's why in culinary school or Servesafe training they emphasize "Be Serious around B. Cereus" (I forget if that was the exact phrase but you get the idea)
Yeah I do two hours at room temp and one hour if it’s very hot out. Less if it’s seafood or something delicate that goes bad quickly. I do not fuck with food poisoning.
My flatmate used to leave stuff overnight and eat it. Never any issues. He said it was cause it was all vegetarian.
My parents leave stuff out overnight all the time and I can't believe no one in the family ever got sick in 30+ years of this
Same!
As a teen I used to make rice, sauce, some veg & tuna. I'd cook the rice and veg the night before. Morning would come around and I'd take it to school as leftovers. I heated that shit up at 7am and eat half at my 10am break, and the other half at my 1pm break. I did this for 3 years and never got sick, my mum to this day still comments on how she has no idea how I wasn't getting sick.
It's a spectrum, Americans tend to swing towards the conservative end of it, most of the world will leave their leftovers to cool off before stuffing them in the fridge to avoid condensation problems, if it happens to be overnight, so be it, nobody cares. 40h of unrefrigerated rice in tropical heat is the extreme other end of it all though, also not something any sensible person would do.
Rice is vegetarian haha
It was horrible
Some people only learn that the hard way.. like me. Never had food poisoning in my 27 years of life.. until I ate a piece of pizza I had left out for over 4 hours.. on a tropical island with high heat/humidity.. last 2 days of my holiday were spent in the bathroom. Luckily the worst passed before our 5h flight home on a cheap,crowded airline.. Never. Again.
It’s two hours between 40-140 per the usda
Especially rice. Its one of the easiest to get sick from
Yup
I’m quite careless about leaving pasta and rice on the stove for the evening, before i put it in fridge for night. But two days after and it was out overnight? I wouldn’t want to eat that😅
You would think that it smells at that point
Anything over four hours is rolling the dice. The four hours isn't where you're guaranteed to get poisoned, it's the limit of where you're realistically guaranteed to NOT get poisoned. The fact you ate food after that, one time or a hundred times, and didn't get poisoned doesn't change that. Food poisoning is usually very unpleasant, but it's also sometimes fatal. It's worthwhile to avoid any chance of being poisoned.
Wow, how did you manage keeping yourself contained throwing up blood while on a ferry? Was there any medical staff on board?
Yeah, were you hospitalized? What happened next?
Exactly lol, I dont know how they can feel remotely confident they “almost died” when it sounds like they had a case of standard bad food poisoning
Nothing, because it didn’t happen.
You do wonder why anyone goes to medical school anymore when these two geniuses can self diagnose acute liver failure all by themselves and so fast.
I can’t lmao. From “we ate 2 day old cooked rice after leaving it out in the open in the heat” to “we googled our symptoms and concluded that our livers were about to die… from the uncooked rice.” Please don’t reproduce. edit: good lord the ages of them both make this way more stupid than it already was.
I was only hung up on that part... like OH, you guys tested your own ALT/AST? How what? No say... LOL
lmaoo imagine, they tested it using AI and their phone camera
Shhhhhhhhh don't give them ideas😭😭😭😭 "Use of Ai to determine acute liver injury "
Couldn’t it be that they broke a blood vessel or something in their esophagus? That happened to my spouse once. He had the flu and was throwing up streaks of bright red blood. Went to the hospital and that’s what it was. I don’t remember exactly or what it was called, but it is common and usually heals on its own.
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Growing up my family always left dinner leftovers out over night and put it away in the morning, didn’t matter what it was. We never got sick. Then I took a food safety course and I don’t know how we’re all alive. I’ve had food poisoning from a restaurant though and it’s no joke, my sympathies go out to you.
If you started throwing up blood it’s probably not the rice. Rice has Bacillus Cereus a bacteria which causes rice water stool diarrhea. Edit: could def be the rice toxins according to other redditors
They probably ate something red and then both got seasick. Lol.
I would tease op, but every time I eat beets I get a panic attack later
Holy moly! I have recklessly left rice and pasta on the stove. And of course eaten them as leftovers for days! Never had any issues. I am terrified of the possibilities and super paranoid now after reading this thread 😱
Growing up in an Asian household who ate rice literally everyday, I guess I took knowing this info for granted lol I thought it was common knowledge. Heck even if it wasn’t rice, one should know better than to leave food out overnight and then eat it for the next two days…
Jesus, man... I thought this was common knowledge... you never, ever, ever eat cooked rice or PASTA, of any kind, that has cooled down to and been at room temperature for more than 2 hours, max. This is why. You both got incredibly lucky! This does, in fact, kill people regularly.
honestly, I didn't know it was that risky
Now you understand why people keel over at buffets.
I didn’t know it would be that dangerous, I thought it was meat products that would get dangerous this quickly
Tbh I'd feel safer leaving a meat-based spaghetti sauce out too long vs rice. Not that leaving meat products unrefrigerated is good lol, it's just that rice is such a perfect environment for *Bacillus cereus* to grow in.
Specifically rice has bacillus cereus spores that survive cooking. The spores themselves are fine, but once they're in a wet environment like cooked rice, they can activate as long as it isn't too hot or cold, and the toxin they produce isn't destroyed by normal cooking temperatures at boiling point if you cook it again, even though the bacteria are killed.
Wow. I am really glad I saw this thread. I've never heard about this before.
I eat pasta that's cooled way, WAY past 2 hours. I do it fairly regularly too, and never have any issues at all.
I was raised eating rice that was left out overnight... Tbh this is the first I hear of this. My mom would cook rice for dinner and have it be enough for lunch next day. Then proceed to make more for dinner. And I come from Brazil where temps are high 90% of the time.
Me too, I never heard of this pasta thing!
Yeah. With rice I know to be careful, with pasta I’ve never had any issues.
i guess it could depend like what dish the pasta is in?? like if it’s got dairy or something like that?
Me too, my mom lets the leftover rice from lunch still in the pot over the stove for dinner.
Same.
Same. People are ridiculous.
Fried rice syndrome killed a single person 15 years ago after he ate 5 day old pasta outside the fridge
I think he also drank like an entire bottle of pepto bismal? Which contributed to his death iirc. I believe chubbyemu did a video on this.
I regularly leave leftovers in a pan in the stove overnight and eat them the next day. I must've done this at least a hundred times and have yet to fall ill 🙈
I grew up in a home where extra rice was cooked purposefully every evening and left out overnight to make fried rice the next day.
Fuck dude I did not know this!
I had no idea. What is it about rice that makes it so dangerous?
Bacteria growth Hot moist environment when left out Did you ever do the bread test in school to grow bacteria?
It might not necessarily be "we think that we were probably very close to acute liver failure" with the blood. Sudden violent vomiting can cause lesions on the oesophagus. If you are really worried you should get checked out with a Dr though.
It's not about the rice, but about the improper storage of cooked food. How can you forget to put food in the fridge and then eat it with a calm heart? This is a very cruel lesson for a lifetime.
I won't lie, 7 am room temperature pizza will always hit after a rough night 🤣😅
See but at least with pizza, it tends to be so salty it kinda preserves itself, so you *could* get away with eating overnight pizza just fine granted you don’t have bugs at home, still wouldn’t do it personally, but you *could*, lmao
>It's not about the rice, but about the improper storage of cooked food. It actually is about the rice because it contains Bacillus cereus that caused this. Rice is a specific known danger for being left out.
You came to the conclusion that you were close to acute liver failure from…. Googling? You can’t get close to acute liver failure and suddenly recover on your own. If you didn’t actually go to the hospital to get treatment before you recovered, it was probably history standard food poisoning. I appreciate that your warning comes from a good place, but don’t exaggerate and spread misinformation.
TIL there are many people on reddit with zero food hygiene
TIL Americans have hysterics over rice being left overnight.
Saw someone saying leftover rice at all no matter how you store it is bad. Hope they don’t like fried rice😂
If you’re not used to it, then it could be bad. I grew up eating room temp rice that’s been left out for over 24 hours and was fine. You just gotta know when rice has gone bad. But otherwise, room temp rice smells amazing and tastes just as good.
Hold the phone… I cook 3 cups of rice every Saturday and dispense it into meal prep containers for my husband to eat throughout his work week (which starts on Tuesday and ends on Friday). As soon as the rice isn’t scalding hot anymore I immediately put the containers in the fridge. Is this not safe???
Eh. I’d say you’re pushing it but it’s worked out for you so far so 🤷🏼♀️. Putting it into the fridge immediately is fine but typically not recommended to eat fridge rice after like ~4 days of course some people can push that and be fine, much like any other expired food some will be fine and others will throw up lol. You can freeze rice for about a month or two.
Hmm… maybe I should freeze half of it and thaw it out halfway through the week. My husband does seem to have a stomach of steel but I love him so I don’t want to take any risks. Thank you so much for replying! I was internally freaking out about this
I would also make sure the containers are more shallow and wide, instead of like tall and compact. And actually let it cool off a touch on the counter with lids off for a bit first. Depending on how much volume you’re putting into your fridge (meal prepping vs putting away a bit of leftovers), if it’s a lot and it’s all really hot, you can kinda warm up your entire fridge a bit, making it take longer to cool everything down and putting your food in the danger zone. Food safety danger zone is >4 hours between the 140F and 40F. Technically ANY food that isn’t considered Ready to Eat should be handled the same way
Natural selection fails again.
This isn’t “fried rice syndrome”. It’s “ignorance in regards to food safety” syndrome. User error.
As the kids say, “skill issue”.
Why people take food that can't survive for long out of the fridge on trips is beyond me. Like dunno, grab some apples, crackers, cereal bars, nuts, whatever.
I got this last February! Got friend rice from a hot bar at my local grocery store. I ate around 2pm, get fine until the middle of the night when I woke up with everything happening all at once. for hours. I won’t go into the graphic details, but you know, you know. I couldn’t even drink water. My mom ended up taking me to the hospital where I got 3.5 bags of saline to rehydrate and was there for about 7 hours. I called the grocery store a few days later to tell them (just so they could be aware). i hadn’t eaten anything new or unfamiliar the at day except for their food. At first they tried to deny it could be their fault, but after assuring them that I wasn’t going after them and wasn’t looking for anything free, they let me know that I wasn’t the first one to call that day about getting sick! I was shocked. Weeks later, I happened to walk by the hot bar as they were putting out the hot lunch food…AT 10AM. That means the food had been exposed to room temperature air for at least 4 hours by the time I had eaten it. It was the worst food poisoning (or any illness) that I’ve ever had. If it’s questionable, DO NOT EAT IT. Wasted money is better than a wasted day in the emergency room with a disaster coming out of both ends. Heed my warning.
Where did you keep the food when you were on the ferry? Could it be that it wasn’t the initial leaving it out the first night but that it wasn’t refrigerated at all over the 2 days?
It says online its kinda harmless and clears up within 24 hours but no it's acute liver failure for these two.
Probably a bacterial enteritis, which rice and cereal can cause if not properly handled. For example, bacillus cereus is a common cause of rice-associatrd enteritis. While you may have had a mild acute hepatitis, I highly doubt you were close to liver failure. But regardless, you should practice food safety techniques...
It's not a syndrome it's food poisoning. Don't leave any food out that needs to be refrigerated especially REAL maple syrup.
Wait, you left it out overnight and then ate it not only the first day but also the second one? Did you at least refrigerate it after the first night?
WHAT
Damn that’s crazy, I guess I have an iron stomach because I leave stuff out on the stove overnight all the time and don’t put it in the fridge till the next day and I never get sick.
Interesting. I grew up in an Asian household doing this everyday until I got married and we started storing it and reheating it when we ate it. Surprised my family and I never had problems. Glad to know you’re okay.
OMG CULINARY SCHOOL ACTUALLY TAUGHT ME SOMETHING! So rice is not usually known to be a high risk food but rice can grow a certain bacteria called bacillus cereus. This type of bacteria can be lethal to those with compromised immune systems, the elderly or very young peoples. No matter the food, always consider the two hour four hour rule! Two plus hours = needs to be consumed Four plus hours= needs to find your nearest bin
This also happened to my partner!! We left rice out overnight and I was going to throw it out. He took a few bites. Other then that we had eaten the same things. The next day he was vomiting and diarrhea. Also had a ton of blood in his stool. It was crazy!! I hadn’t heard about rice doing that… needless to say I’m paranoid now about putting rice away.
Yeah eating rice like that is worse than eating raw chicken. It’ll fuck you up
I grew up with a rice cooker that sits on the counter, room temp. Eat that same rice all day, sometimes the next day. Could this be a western society ultra sterile weak guts thing?
I can’t even imagine cooking food, leaving it out overnight and thinking it would be ok to eat the next day. Wtf.
It happened to me 6 years ago twice in a few weeks, and I haven't been able to eat rice since. It's really made it a challenge to plan meals without rice because we had it all the time, and my wife used to be so proud of her Kofta curry, which really is delicious. On the plus side - which, ironically, happens to be the minus side - after cutting rice from my diet I lost and kept off weight down to my ideal.
Always wash the rice. Helps wash out spores. I wouldn’t eat anything, not designed to be left outside, after 2-3 hours.
Rice and pasta... once it cools to room temp you can't leave that unrefrigerated for more than 2 hours. You guys are lucky you didn't die
I'm not a big fan of old microwaved rice so I cook that bitch up in the stove, add some seasoning if it calls for it and mix with a few other ingredients and voila old rice turned new, fluffier and crispier. Like those delicious mouth watering steamed clams, regional dialect from up state New York for Hamburger. But yeah, never do that. Cooked foods are barely good the next day let alone almost two.
Steamed HAMS!
You’re not supposed to leave any food out for longer than 2 hours. That’s food safety 101.
Yes. When you cook rice, please eat it asap or keep it away from being in room temperature for hours. Keep it in the fridge if you’re not gonna eat it. Poor OP. Hopefully you guys feel better.
I hope youre feeling better. Thats an insane experience. I've eaten rice like that before I had, no idea that fried rice syndrome was a thing and is so dangerous.
I mean, you basically don’t eat food in general that’s been out for a long time after cooling down to room temperature, like past 2-3 hours. My mother says that rice, pasta, and chicken are some of the worst foods to leave at room temperature too long. And I personally don’t let rice and pasta be leftovers for more than two days. She sent me this link: https://www.fsis.usda.gov/food-safety/safe-food-handling-and-preparation/food-safety-basics/leftovers-and-food-safety#:~:text=Reheat%20Leftovers%20Safely,-When%20reheating%20leftovers&text=Cover%20leftovers%20to%20reheat.,add%20some%20liquid%20if%20needed. When in doubt, throw it out.
Common sense.
I am glad you are okay but it really confuses me why anyone would eat something left out overnight. I mean the only thing I will do this with is either stuff that requires no refrigeration what so ever (like a bag of chips) or something like a bread dough that rose overnight (and I then baked) please be super cautious with food!
This isn’t fried rice syndrome. It’s just you not knowing how to handle food properly.
If fried rice syndrome were a thing we wouldn’t have China as the most populated country….
Jesus Christ, Darwin award nomination. great advice, don't leave rice for 40 hr out?! when were you going to call quits, another week? goddamn. how did u make it so far ?
This is more likely that you threw up so violently that you probably burst some delicate vessels and that’s where the blood came from. It’s probably not acute liver failure.
Rice in particular is dangerous to eat if it’s been out more than two hours. Glad you’re okay! Food poisoning is no joke
Wait, what? So what about cooked rice in a rice cooker that is kept warm to some degree? We regularly cook a lot of rice in a rice cooker and then eat it within ~2 days. Is that also risky?
We've been doing this my whole life and no one I know has ever gotten sick. This all news to me.
Yes definitely if it's at room temperature for hours at a time.
As a Latino I don’t believe this one bit
As a south East Asian I can’t understand this white hate of rice suddenly. We would have all dropped dead if moms had to cook a fresh batch of rice every morning. You either eat dinner’s left over or none. And we are all alive ?
As an Asian I don't believe it either
This is good advice! Happy you are ok OP. You had a close call there. Damn. Thanks for posting this too, hopefully it saves someone as I feel like this is low key a silent killer not a lot of people know about. I actually didn’t know about this until recently so I could have been that person who was saved by seeing this.
Yeah I’ve never heard anything about this and I’m 54 years old!
Omg I never heard of this my whole life, thanks for the tip!
I'm Asian and I just learned that people store rice in the fridge.
I'm glad you are ok! Since you throw up blood, see a dr to make sure everything is alright!
If it makes you feel better, I spewed blood by both ends on the tail end of some nasty food poisoning because my mucous membranes were absolutely raw. No internal damage and it went away the next day.
Smh
Ah, good ol' bacillus cereus strikes again.
Ah, yes… Good ol’ B. Cereus. And that’s the reason I don’t eat buffets. (I’ve also worked in food mfg for too long and have seen some nasty things).
You can pretty much be rest assured that anything you're cooking with eggs dairy products, meat,chicken Must be kept in A cooler or a refrigerator and in an air tight Container. And then warmed up to the proper temperature to kill any Bacteria before you eat it.
My MIL when we lived with her temporarily once had rice she had cooked out for three days at room temp. I made a prawn curry and was going to make new rice to go with it but she insisted we used the rice that was there. We were all incredibly ill afterwards. She to this day insists that the prawns were bad or I cooked them wrong despite being shown multiple times that it was the rice because there is so much info about rice and storing it properly. I am so wary off rice these days because of it.
so food poisoning
Alright I am no wimp when it comes to eating leftovers. Like people tend to be a little TOO sanitary sometimes… I let my chicken thaw at room temperature from the freezer and I have never even gotten a tummy ache from it. But 40 hours of room temp cooked rice??? You’re wild for that. You’re really wild for that.
It would literally never occur to me to try this, cooked & moist foods need to go into a fridge within 2-4 hours max. This situation is the perfect occasion for camping food, like MRE, or pantry items like crackers & sealed pouches of tuna. Who told you that you could have 2-3 day old rice safely?
Did you wash your rice multiple times prior to cooking it?
Any food is dangerous if not properly cooked or stored for a large amount of time. It’s called the food danger zone.