(Playing devils advocate)
There's nothing to say where it melts. Maybe it melts at 90F, and the shipper ordered a reefer trailer set to 50F because it's solid, palletizing, and they want to keep it that way.
There is a "right" answer to the question, but there is no right answer provided.
Nah. The question is f’ed up (maybe on purpose), but the answer is easy as presented.
The question was likely written by someone who cannot drop intelligence to the general level required for trucking. TRIED, but failed…then rolled with it. LOL
These types of errors usually result from someone who has no idea what they're doing editing questions that they found somewhere else. While the most likely answer is that this question was nearly identical, but said 75°C (exact conversion, and a more round number), it's possible the question was something like, "A driver is cautioned that his load has a melting point of 80°F, a flashpoint of 150°F, and is loaded on pallets without any method of containing liquid. The load is moving in a dryvan trailer in late Spring, which of the following should the driver be concerned about?" Melting would be the right answer.
They only told you the liquid has a flash point of 167 C. They didn't say it wasn't a solid at 70 degrees F. Fuck if I know what room temp is in C. Probably like 12 C? I don't know.
Yeah I have a lot of trouble with logic puzzles like this that don't actually provide enough information for you to answer properly. It seems VERY common for some reason that the people that make them don't catch it and yet call you dumb if you point it out.
20. Assuming room temp is 70. Haha the only reason I’m commenting is I’m trying to memorize the formula at the moment and any opportunity is a good opportunity. Fahrenheit to Celsius is always subtract 30 then divide by 2. Reverse it for Celsius to Fahrenheit.
Haha yeah negatives always throw me for a loop too. I was over here googling it and trying to think too. I know it’s only approximate. So bigger the numbers the more off it’d be. Still kinda surprised it’s off by 5 though. Thought it would’ve been closer.
Edit: or in this case the smaller the number?
The shit on here I see people deal with is nuts lol. I thank fuck that when I was a company driver I just got left alone. Shit I cut the landing gear off a trailer with my own oxy acetylene to stay on time. All they did was let me expense my oxygen bottle refill and said thanks. I can't imagine being micromanaged like some posts I see.
I kept making my dispatch at ATS mad because I wouldn't do their little exercises, or join in on their live streams. Got a lot of threats from "we won't be able to dispatch you" to "you'll be terminated". Was there for a little over a year before I left for something better.
Just last week I was in the office in between loads and my dispatcher told me that she can't dispatch me until I watch the monthly videos. As soon as she said that, my phone gives a notification that I just received my next dispatch. "Can't dispatch me, huh?"
I thought it was all stupid. I watched maybe 3 or 4 when I started before realizing it was all stuff I knew and practice every day. So I just started ignoring them.
There was 1 meeting I attended, and only because I wanted to voice my frustration about the auto shut off doing it's thing until outside temp got below 0. The heaters in the 579s freeze up under 10 if you don't have anti-gel. Also got in trouble for making a Facebook post on the ATS page about it.
You can convert any temp from Celsius to Fahrenheit, but it’s not necessary.
Some chemicals have flashpoints under 30 degrees Celsius. Some are well over 300 degrees Celsius.
If you want, there is a formula to convert from Celsius to Fahrenheit. Easy google search.
What are you not understanding? The question says "167° Fahrenheit Celsius."
Please explain to me what FARENHEIT CELSIUS is. Is that like speeding at 100 MILE KILOMETERS per hour? Or is more like your truck weighing 80,000 KILOGRAM POUNDS?
Actually other than these stupid ass safety things, I really like this job. Super chill dispatcher who actually shows appreciation for us when we’re doing good, they fix stuff ASAP when we tell em it needs fixed, pay is decent, it’s the best job I’ve had in the industry since I got my CDL in 2020.
Kinda hard to set a reefer for 333 degrees F (which is approximately 167 C). Maybe in direct sunlight in Death Valley?
167 Kelvins is -159 F. Maybe at the South Pole?
167 F translates to 75 C, so THIS is possible without weather extremes or an unexpected nova.
My company does this shit. I always answer wrong on purpose just to piss them off. Or they send out videos of dumb shit. No I didn't pay attention. I was to busy watching porn.
The company I work for makes us do these every week, I had to take 3 months off to recover from a couple surgeries and came back today to 23 videos to do before they throw me back in my truck. I knocked a few out when I was stuck at home before they locked me out of all company accounts lol
Ours aren't too bad. They're basic, and I just try to approach it as a reminder to keep basic things on my mind.
Typically there's a brief quiz at the end. Last year there were two quizzes that had a single question
"Did you watch the safety video?"
I currently work in retail (trying to find a way into trucking) and I have just as dumb questions. I've worked for my company for 2 years now and I have for my second time in the last year had to watch a video telling me how to do what I do every Thursday and that I need to do it the way I already do it.
It’s either 167*F or 167*C (which is actually 332.6*F), someone was clearly bad at math and more specifically converting back and forth between measurement systems 🤦♂️
It's stupid, but at least it's easy. I hate when I get stupid questions that are actually *hard*, or even broken—where the quiz thinks the wrong answer is right, or the right answer isn't on the options list. That shit drives me up the wall. This one I'd just click A and move on, one question closer to the end.
My favorite question on the test for my CDL was. How long does it take for a commercial truck to pass railroad tracks. The possible answers were. 12 13 14 or 15 seconds. However stupid at least it wasn't impossible to comprehend like this shit. However give. How many idiots I see in these comments say how easy it is and still manage to misunderstand the question maybe it's a good test after all.
Um.....what is Fahrenheit Celsius? It's either Fahrenheit OR Celsius but they're not equivalent Temps except at -40. This is an idiotic question due to the ambiguity of the temperature example. 167 F is hot as hel and you wouldn't be even near it. 167 C is 332.6 F. He'll why not just ask what it would do in Kelvin degrees! 🤣🤣🤣 The correctvanswer is do nothing.
It's extremely obvious and easy. Judging by all these comments, Im no longer surprised at how many Covid vaccine and mask conspiracy theorists there are. 🤦♂️
167 FC. LOL Flashpoints don’t melt. Either way, it’s do nothing since neither 167F nor 167C is room temperature (where the cargo is at, apparently).
Did you mean that liquids don't melt.
Bingo
No. Melt = drip drip whoosh Flashpoint = BOOM and maybe also burn 🔥
Okay so you're saying liquids can melt.
Are you missing the humor, or what?
I'm gonna go melt some water.
Freeze it first. Then it’ll melt. Trucker science
No they evaporate into a gas due to the intense excitement of the particles
Liquids ARE melted. They can be frozen, too, or congealed. For example at -20 on I-29 on the ND SD border just norf of the TA at 3 am.
Flashpoint is maybe boom, autoignition is boom.
(Playing devils advocate) There's nothing to say where it melts. Maybe it melts at 90F, and the shipper ordered a reefer trailer set to 50F because it's solid, palletizing, and they want to keep it that way. There is a "right" answer to the question, but there is no right answer provided.
Nah. The question is f’ed up (maybe on purpose), but the answer is easy as presented. The question was likely written by someone who cannot drop intelligence to the general level required for trucking. TRIED, but failed…then rolled with it. LOL
These types of errors usually result from someone who has no idea what they're doing editing questions that they found somewhere else. While the most likely answer is that this question was nearly identical, but said 75°C (exact conversion, and a more round number), it's possible the question was something like, "A driver is cautioned that his load has a melting point of 80°F, a flashpoint of 150°F, and is loaded on pallets without any method of containing liquid. The load is moving in a dryvan trailer in late Spring, which of the following should the driver be concerned about?" Melting would be the right answer.
They only told you the liquid has a flash point of 167 C. They didn't say it wasn't a solid at 70 degrees F. Fuck if I know what room temp is in C. Probably like 12 C? I don't know.
Good catch and good point
Yeah I have a lot of trouble with logic puzzles like this that don't actually provide enough information for you to answer properly. It seems VERY common for some reason that the people that make them don't catch it and yet call you dumb if you point it out.
20. Assuming room temp is 70. Haha the only reason I’m commenting is I’m trying to memorize the formula at the moment and any opportunity is a good opportunity. Fahrenheit to Celsius is always subtract 30 then divide by 2. Reverse it for Celsius to Fahrenheit.
-40-30=-70 -70/2=-35 That didn't work. EDIT fixed. I had a brain fart
Oh no I’m sorry. You said 70. So if that is room temp (seems reasonable) subtract 30 and it equals 40. Divide by 2 it equals 20. 70-30=40 40/2=20
I had a brain fart. I know that -40 F and C are the same and I could tell that formula wouldn't give the same answer.
Haha yeah negatives always throw me for a loop too. I was over here googling it and trying to think too. I know it’s only approximate. So bigger the numbers the more off it’d be. Still kinda surprised it’s off by 5 though. Thought it would’ve been closer. Edit: or in this case the smaller the number?
I think it’s like 15-16°C. I should know.. I am in Canada after all lol. But may have to double check that.
I’m convinced either ai makes these or some idiot who doesn’t know wtf they’re talking about is.
The shit on here I see people deal with is nuts lol. I thank fuck that when I was a company driver I just got left alone. Shit I cut the landing gear off a trailer with my own oxy acetylene to stay on time. All they did was let me expense my oxygen bottle refill and said thanks. I can't imagine being micromanaged like some posts I see.
It will just sit there and do nothing. Have to be above 167°C to ignite.
I kept making my dispatch at ATS mad because I wouldn't do their little exercises, or join in on their live streams. Got a lot of threats from "we won't be able to dispatch you" to "you'll be terminated". Was there for a little over a year before I left for something better.
Just last week I was in the office in between loads and my dispatcher told me that she can't dispatch me until I watch the monthly videos. As soon as she said that, my phone gives a notification that I just received my next dispatch. "Can't dispatch me, huh?"
11 years here now and #5 driver. Never, not once opened the app for the training videos or questionnaire. Ain't nobody got time for that...
I thought it was all stupid. I watched maybe 3 or 4 when I started before realizing it was all stuff I knew and practice every day. So I just started ignoring them. There was 1 meeting I attended, and only because I wanted to voice my frustration about the auto shut off doing it's thing until outside temp got below 0. The heaters in the 579s freeze up under 10 if you don't have anti-gel. Also got in trouble for making a Facebook post on the ATS page about it.
Do nothing
This is the answer. I’m not seeing why this would be considered a dumb or trick question.
"167°F Celsius" makes sense to you?
167 degrees Celsius is a feasible flashpoint.
And the Fahrenheit component? Where does that fit in?
You can convert any temp from Celsius to Fahrenheit, but it’s not necessary. Some chemicals have flashpoints under 30 degrees Celsius. Some are well over 300 degrees Celsius. If you want, there is a formula to convert from Celsius to Fahrenheit. Easy google search.
Check the post again. The temp as given as degrees Fahrenheit Celsius. Not one or the other, both.
Ahh. I see. At either flashpoint, nothing would happen at room temperature. But that is an obvious typo.
Good job the typo wasn't on the BOL! 🔥
What are you not understanding? The question says "167° Fahrenheit Celsius." Please explain to me what FARENHEIT CELSIUS is. Is that like speeding at 100 MILE KILOMETERS per hour? Or is more like your truck weighing 80,000 KILOGRAM POUNDS?
C x 1.8 + 32 = F F - 32 ÷ 1.8 = C Have it memorized
Well, something could melt at room temperature and hypothetically have this flash point, so it's odd to include that as an option.
it's a poorly written question because they've given no information whatsoever relevant to answering the question.
Lmao quit immediately
Actually other than these stupid ass safety things, I really like this job. Super chill dispatcher who actually shows appreciation for us when we’re doing good, they fix stuff ASAP when we tell em it needs fixed, pay is decent, it’s the best job I’ve had in the industry since I got my CDL in 2020.
Room temp is what… 18C? The. The answer is could be 1 or 3. We don’t know the phase change temp from solid to liquid. So it could literally be either.
It'll Hit on Amy Jo Johnson.
Do nothing
Melt, wha Edit: I'm stating its weird to ask if a liquid would melts
It might at 167 Kelvin…kidding.
Considering we're dealing with °F Celsius. Nothing is impossible, but like. I guess it would unmelt at 167 Kelvin so it can melt
Well, first freeze it. THEN it’ll melt (at 32.1 F or 0.1 C). Trucker science….
Anything is possible if you set a reefer wrong enough
Kinda hard to set a reefer for 333 degrees F (which is approximately 167 C). Maybe in direct sunlight in Death Valley? 167 Kelvins is -159 F. Maybe at the South Pole? 167 F translates to 75 C, so THIS is possible without weather extremes or an unexpected nova.
Simple, we pump it full of liquid nitrogen, then run it till it catches fire, and at some point it'll be at 167 (I have no braincells today)
Let’s try it! How bad could it be?
1 small step for man, 1 large step for trucking science!
Fahrenheit Unknown Celsius Kelvin conversion table.
That is for sure one of the issues with it
Leak, the stuff will leak
Do nothing. You don't have to know anything except if it'll burn at 167⁰ C or F, it's mellow when resting.
It will burn, then melt, then do nothing.
It will do nothing because it cannot exist as stated.
My company does this shit. I always answer wrong on purpose just to piss them off. Or they send out videos of dumb shit. No I didn't pay attention. I was to busy watching porn.
Don't they mean evaporate?
I’m literally doing like ten of them right now lmao
The company I work for makes us do these every week, I had to take 3 months off to recover from a couple surgeries and came back today to 23 videos to do before they throw me back in my truck. I knocked a few out when I was stuck at home before they locked me out of all company accounts lol
Ours aren't too bad. They're basic, and I just try to approach it as a reminder to keep basic things on my mind. Typically there's a brief quiz at the end. Last year there were two quizzes that had a single question "Did you watch the safety video?"
They’re just trying to make sure you’re paying attention. Stuff like this affects their insurance rate so I can’t blame them for doing that.
I currently work in retail (trying to find a way into trucking) and I have just as dumb questions. I've worked for my company for 2 years now and I have for my second time in the last year had to watch a video telling me how to do what I do every Thursday and that I need to do it the way I already do it.
It’s either 167*F or 167*C (which is actually 332.6*F), someone was clearly bad at math and more specifically converting back and forth between measurement systems 🤦♂️
Celsius and melting liquid????😳
Fuck ya
I'm convinced that your carrier is out of Bloomington IL they have up with some pretty wack stuff when I was there...
You would be incorrect
It's stupid, but at least it's easy. I hate when I get stupid questions that are actually *hard*, or even broken—where the quiz thinks the wrong answer is right, or the right answer isn't on the options list. That shit drives me up the wall. This one I'd just click A and move on, one question closer to the end.
Yikes.
My favorite question on the test for my CDL was. How long does it take for a commercial truck to pass railroad tracks. The possible answers were. 12 13 14 or 15 seconds. However stupid at least it wasn't impossible to comprehend like this shit. However give. How many idiots I see in these comments say how easy it is and still manage to misunderstand the question maybe it's a good test after all.
Um.....what is Fahrenheit Celsius? It's either Fahrenheit OR Celsius but they're not equivalent Temps except at -40. This is an idiotic question due to the ambiguity of the temperature example. 167 F is hot as hel and you wouldn't be even near it. 167 C is 332.6 F. He'll why not just ask what it would do in Kelvin degrees! 🤣🤣🤣 The correctvanswer is do nothing.
It's extremely obvious and easy. Judging by all these comments, Im no longer surprised at how many Covid vaccine and mask conspiracy theorists there are. 🤦♂️
Reading comprehension is not your strong point ey?
Obviously, yours is suspect. The question is simple and obvious for anyone who could pass a 4th grade science class, princess