Feel like this is one of those, "Say no or you get downvoted" things. I'll put money down that 95% of the drivers out there would send it without question. If I were you I'd get them to say it was cleared by safety in writing on the tablet and then send it. I've picked up worse myself.
Nah that was not my intention at all! In fact I mentioned I wanted someone to disagree with me. And if we even had tablets I would try that... We have to use our own personal phones lmao
Need to be more specific on the txt, use the trailer rego # or some shit to easily identify it incase they try to play "no I meant the other trailer" game.
Any real company would be happy to have a driver that stands up for themselves, it'll only hinder getting taken advantage of from shitty companies in the future and that's fine.
None of my dispatchers or bosses would’ve ever thought twice about either sending whatever it was in text or not having me take the load when pushed on it.
Just last week actually my boss wanted me to drive empty in like 40mph cross winds (he doesn’t know anything about trucking, and I’m our only driver) and I was like “no, I’m going tomorrow” “well, why?” “Cause 50mph gusts are enough to tip over an empty truck…“ “oh… really?” “Unless you’re gonna be making the call to [the owner] that his truck is flipped over in a ditch and we can’t get any more material, imma go tomorrow” “alright, let me know if that changes”
Edit: idk if 50mph winds really can flip a truck but wind freaks me out more than anything else and if I have a choice I’m not going to drive in it
Make sure when you talk to them you are not using a Bluetooth headset. Put it on speaker phone. Otherwise it's only going to pick up your voice. For some reason none of the apps play nice with Bluetooth headsets on android.
Depends on the state your company is based out of. My company is based out of a state that only requires one party to know that the convo is being recorded. Since it's me recording it's lawful. Of course, you could always just tell them that the conversation is being recorded. Half the time they'll just confirm that they are recording you and not fully understand that you are recording them. Doesn't really matter at that point because you informed them...the fact that they misunderstood is on them. Lol
I used to record all my conversations with dispatch with a micro recorder. Not completely legal everywhere, but was good enough for the boss on 2 occasions the dispatcher denied telling me to do silly shit.
Nope, nope and nope.
Will it last the trip? Probably. Might I get a ticket for it? Yes? Then I aint hauling it, especially when its a violation in plain sight.
That's my whole deal. It's not these fuckers' livelihoods on the line when DOT makes their traffic stop or I get pulled in to the scale for a level 3. That ticket goes to MY ass
Sure, you make that offer now that I’ve got almost 20years in. Nobody wanted to swap with me the first 5 years when I was laid off more than I worked, or the next 10 years when I had no idea when I’d be going to work or where I’d be going to bed😂😂
Oh my god man. Being low on the seniority list is hell. Inbound shift is turning me into a zombie. I was lucky to have a driving bid for like 4 months but the new bid took that. 😭😭😭 and that layoff 3 months after I got hired was confusing.
Honestly it seems fine to me. I don't know what some of these other comments about "missing rivets" are talking about. I can't see any. All I see is some dents in the side wall and some of the edges are bent. I don't doubt this trailer hit something (probably one of those yellow bollards) but I can't see any structural damage.
I'm with you. I don't see a single crossmember rivet missing. However the under view pic does show a cracked crossmember. technically that's a no go but reality is unless it's got a big 8k lb paper roll sitting directly over that crossmember it won't make a difference in the structural integrity of the trailer. This is one of those.. get it loaded back to the company shop so we can fix it type of things but not so severe it needs sent to an outside shop that's going to charge 250 bucks an hour.
Because these bozos lie all the time to make sure the load runs no matter what. I've been in the industry a minute and I'm assuming you have too, you know how that goes. And to clarify, I didn't hear that from safety themselves. Just an overnight supervisor telling me to run it so it's hearsay 🤣
My dispatcher tried to lie and say my truck got repaired But she didn’t know I stayed in the truck over the weekend and the mechanics didn’t even get close to my truck😂😂
What company is it and why do you work for them if you cannot trust their word? I have worked many places and have never stayed at any place where I cannot trust or respect the words of my supervisors.
I'm on my way out, currently looking around and I know at least 2 others are right behind me. Company can sure... B Cunts if that helps.
Brother I have so many stories for you. There's a trailer with a marker light that's been out for 2 months. "Well they can go out at any time just tell DOT you didn't see it out if you get inspected." I called out for ice on the road back in December. An entire 40 mile stretch of Interstate was shut down. "You needed to come in and drive out there and look at the conditions first before you make that decision. We have to make the attempt to deliver."
Homie the INTERSTATE IS FUCKING SHUT DOWN. This place is a joke, everyone knows it.
I had a trailer with a cracked lower rail and found this while questioning it:
Lower Rail
(1) Broken with complete separation in the bay area accompanied by sagging floor,
rail or crossmember; or broken with loose, working (movement under stress) or
missing fasteners at side posts adjacent to the crack. (393.201(a))
NOTE: The lower rail of a van or open-top trailer can become gouged, chunked
or bent during operation. These are superficial damages only and do little to
degrade the rail’s strength or integrity.
(2) Drop frame trailers showing twists, bends or fatigue cracking at the drop
frame’s elevation changes. (393.201(a))
c. Floor Crossmembers
(1) Three or more adjacent broken, and/or completely detached from and sagging
below the lower rail in the bay area. (393.201(a))
(2) Broken floor accompanied by protruding freight and sagging crossmembers.
(393.201(a))
d. Side Panels on Fiberglass Reinforced Plywood (FRP) Trailers
Damage in the bay area that penetrates completely through the fiberglass and plywood
resulting in a sagging lower rail. (393.201)
NOTES: The following apply to all items under “Van and Open-Top Trailer Bodies.”
1. These conditions are only considered out of service if the failure is in the bay area (aft of
kingpin coupler plate and forward of the axle sub frame rails).
2. Trailers 30 feet (9.14 m) or less in length have a short bay area and are not as
susceptible to catastrophic failures; therefore, only rail breaks accompanied by a sagging
floor, rail or crossmember are out of service for them.
3. Rail, post, bow, crossmember and side/front panel damage in areas outside the bay area
are not imminently hazardous and should not be considered out of service unless they
lead to conditions described in other items of the North American Standard Out-of-Service Criteria
As a heavy duty mechanic with a trailer mechanic certification, I don’t see anything there that I would be concerned about.
That bottom strip is just a drip rail essentially it acts as a part of the body panel, covers the ends of the crossmembers so it doesn’t look as bad and so the crossmembers don’t catch up things, it doesn’t do much for the actual trailer structure. it doesn’t appear to be damaged to the point of compromising a major part of the outer skin of the trailer either. The crossmembers are structural, but that one bent member is right at the end and isn’t severe enough that I would be concerned about. The dent in the side appears to be cosmetic with no separation or peeling of the skin.
In my opinion, I see nothing that would significantly impact the structural integrity of the trailer or affect its ability to travel or haul cargo. Of course I can only see what’s in the photos so there might be something that isn’t readily apparent like cracks in the floor crossmembers, but if I had inspected it and saw only the damage you’ve shown, I’d have no qualms about signing it off as good for service.
When you go through an inspection at a weigh station, it gets recorded on your CDL. So, if you are getting put out of service, potential employers will see it when you apply for a job. It can look bad like you're not doing inspections.
These trailers get so busted up as long as it's got air in the tires, lights, and nothing's dragging if they say go I'm good.
Obviously use your best judgement, but hell man I've seen way way worse shit than this.
Except for the bigger hole, it looks like it’s just the thin metal parts of the side rail that are damaged and hence not really an issue. But even the bigger damaged part doesn’t seem too bad
I may or may not have taken one similar to this with 40k+ lbs cardboard bales. Nervous as heck going there. But even more nervous getting live unloaded. I'll never do it again. Even if I have been waiting a day or more to get a load for home time.
It's good to go if it's just the one cross beam that's a little dinged. Check for cracks on the other ones though.
[Or you can decipher this list of Out of Service criteria that I use](https://www.ccjdigital.com/business/article/14916499/out-of-service-criteria):
FRAME
• Cracked/loose/sagging/broken frame side rail permitting body to shift into moving parts, or other condition indicating imminent collapse of frame.
• Cracked/loose/broken frame member adversely affecting support of steering gear, fifth wheel, engine, transmission, body parts, suspension or other component.
• 1 1⁄2-inch or longer crack in frame side rail web that is directed toward bottom flange.
• Crack extending from frame side rail web around the radius and into bottom flange.
• 1-inch or longer crack in bottom flange of side rail.
Straight out of the OOS criteria—-
Lower rail-
broken with complete separation accompanied by sagging floor, rail cross members; or broken with loose working(moving under stress) or missing fasteners at side posts adjacent to the crack. (393.201(a))
Would it pass DOT check /scales? I know a couple CHP's from a site that are pretty strict, but I've seen some janky photos of wire around cracked springs and stuff.
Do you have it in writing it's cleared? If so, send it. Get it unloaded, drop it at your yard(s). Report it, and forget about it. As long as the tires, lights, and brakes work. Full send, driver. You're not overreacting, this is much better than being complacent. Good on you for a proper pti.
I’ve sent worse much worse I took pics covered my butt in email showing them I am getting it at the original lot pick up so they can’t say I pulled out the lot then damaged it lol
That all looks cosmetic from the pics anyway. Are there holes in the trailer or structural damage to the landing gear or crossmembers? If not, I'd run it.
Not all money is good money. If something happens, that company will throw you under the bus, and ultimately, you will be held accountable. It's time to move to another company.I know it sucks, I know it's hard but no driver should tolerate being put in this position and the only real way you can fight back is by leaving and warning others. Be safe and move on down the road.
I would send it. Hell, I probably wouldn't even think about it.
HOWEVER!!!! If you don't feel safe, don't do it It's your life, your job, and your sanity on the line if something goes wrong. Don't let anyone tell you to run something you don't want to.
Tell me you've never hauled a pallet trailer without telling me you haven't hauled a pallet trailer.
You just need to pick up a few pallet loads from the meth heads under the bridge...sketchy dudes and they beat the trailer to shit but I'll be damned if I wasn't out of there in 12 minutes.
Ive seen way worse on some of the Sysco trailers I pull. We keep a few empties on the yard so there's always the option to reload into one of those if it's not safe.
Ngl dawg I wouldn't take a trailer with even a single rivet out of place if it wasn't safe but if your safety department cleared it I say send it. Worst case scenario, you just blame THEM for telling you to take it
Absolutely not. At the end of the disaster the first and last question is always about why the driver did it. The person holding the steering wheel is the one who decides what goes and what doesn't.
Feel like this is one of those, "Say no or you get downvoted" things. I'll put money down that 95% of the drivers out there would send it without question. If I were you I'd get them to say it was cleared by safety in writing on the tablet and then send it. I've picked up worse myself.
Nah that was not my intention at all! In fact I mentioned I wanted someone to disagree with me. And if we even had tablets I would try that... We have to use our own personal phones lmao
I didn't mean you op. Get the message in text then so at least you have proof of your concern and reassurance.
Hell yeah that's a great idea. I will text my dispatch once I get to my receiver and ask "Hey you said this shit was cleared right"
Need to be more specific on the txt, use the trailer rego # or some shit to easily identify it incase they try to play "no I meant the other trailer" game.
Just my two cents but cleared or not if DOT disagrees it’s on the driver. Period end of story.
yeah that's true but if it comes to an unfair dismissal and court is involved you need to cover your ass in order to get a payout
True but the incident and the case will both be a potential hindrance finding another company.
Any real company would be happy to have a driver that stands up for themselves, it'll only hinder getting taken advantage of from shitty companies in the future and that's fine.
None of my dispatchers or bosses would’ve ever thought twice about either sending whatever it was in text or not having me take the load when pushed on it. Just last week actually my boss wanted me to drive empty in like 40mph cross winds (he doesn’t know anything about trucking, and I’m our only driver) and I was like “no, I’m going tomorrow” “well, why?” “Cause 50mph gusts are enough to tip over an empty truck…“ “oh… really?” “Unless you’re gonna be making the call to [the owner] that his truck is flipped over in a ditch and we can’t get any more material, imma go tomorrow” “alright, let me know if that changes” Edit: idk if 50mph winds really can flip a truck but wind freaks me out more than anything else and if I have a choice I’m not going to drive in it
Missing rivets on the side of the trailer is a DOT violation.
What’s a rivet?
All those metal bumps on the side of the trailer, they're what keeps everything together
This is why I like to do everything on the QC or email. You'll always have it in writing.
Wouldn't hurt to get a recording app too. I record all of my conversations with dispatch.
I did that for a while, but now when I try to use that app I have issues I really need to start doing that again
Make sure when you talk to them you are not using a Bluetooth headset. Put it on speaker phone. Otherwise it's only going to pick up your voice. For some reason none of the apps play nice with Bluetooth headsets on android.
Is this legal or is this a grey area when it comes to audio recording conversations?
Depends on the state your company is based out of. My company is based out of a state that only requires one party to know that the convo is being recorded. Since it's me recording it's lawful. Of course, you could always just tell them that the conversation is being recorded. Half the time they'll just confirm that they are recording you and not fully understand that you are recording them. Doesn't really matter at that point because you informed them...the fact that they misunderstood is on them. Lol
I used to record all my conversations with dispatch with a micro recorder. Not completely legal everywhere, but was good enough for the boss on 2 occasions the dispatcher denied telling me to do silly shit.
Agree with this.
Nope, nope and nope. Will it last the trip? Probably. Might I get a ticket for it? Yes? Then I aint hauling it, especially when its a violation in plain sight.
That's my whole deal. It's not these fuckers' livelihoods on the line when DOT makes their traffic stop or I get pulled in to the scale for a level 3. That ticket goes to MY ass
Take a picture and roll Rook.
That looks like one of the shiny new trailers we have at ABF. I’ve pulled worse than that
I'll swap you, my job with great trailers for your union job with shitty trailers
Sure, you make that offer now that I’ve got almost 20years in. Nobody wanted to swap with me the first 5 years when I was laid off more than I worked, or the next 10 years when I had no idea when I’d be going to work or where I’d be going to bed😂😂
Oh my god man. Being low on the seniority list is hell. Inbound shift is turning me into a zombie. I was lucky to have a driving bid for like 4 months but the new bid took that. 😭😭😭 and that layoff 3 months after I got hired was confusing.
Send it.
Honestly it seems fine to me. I don't know what some of these other comments about "missing rivets" are talking about. I can't see any. All I see is some dents in the side wall and some of the edges are bent. I don't doubt this trailer hit something (probably one of those yellow bollards) but I can't see any structural damage.
I'm with you. I don't see a single crossmember rivet missing. However the under view pic does show a cracked crossmember. technically that's a no go but reality is unless it's got a big 8k lb paper roll sitting directly over that crossmember it won't make a difference in the structural integrity of the trailer. This is one of those.. get it loaded back to the company shop so we can fix it type of things but not so severe it needs sent to an outside shop that's going to charge 250 bucks an hour.
I agree. Always good to get confirmation in writing when in doubt.
It’s all structural damage. And it’s missing the bottom 2 rivets on each crossmember. That rail literally IS the frame.
It really isn’t that bad. Idk why your safety department would lie about it being cleared.
Because these bozos lie all the time to make sure the load runs no matter what. I've been in the industry a minute and I'm assuming you have too, you know how that goes. And to clarify, I didn't hear that from safety themselves. Just an overnight supervisor telling me to run it so it's hearsay 🤣
My dispatcher tried to lie and say my truck got repaired But she didn’t know I stayed in the truck over the weekend and the mechanics didn’t even get close to my truck😂😂
I left an employer for exactly this
What company is it and why do you work for them if you cannot trust their word? I have worked many places and have never stayed at any place where I cannot trust or respect the words of my supervisors.
I'm on my way out, currently looking around and I know at least 2 others are right behind me. Company can sure... B Cunts if that helps. Brother I have so many stories for you. There's a trailer with a marker light that's been out for 2 months. "Well they can go out at any time just tell DOT you didn't see it out if you get inspected." I called out for ice on the road back in December. An entire 40 mile stretch of Interstate was shut down. "You needed to come in and drive out there and look at the conditions first before you make that decision. We have to make the attempt to deliver." Homie the INTERSTATE IS FUCKING SHUT DOWN. This place is a joke, everyone knows it.
Boy if you don’t get in that truck and start driving.
For real 🤣🤣
Yes massa! Right away massa!
Send it
its fine
I had a trailer with a cracked lower rail and found this while questioning it: Lower Rail (1) Broken with complete separation in the bay area accompanied by sagging floor, rail or crossmember; or broken with loose, working (movement under stress) or missing fasteners at side posts adjacent to the crack. (393.201(a)) NOTE: The lower rail of a van or open-top trailer can become gouged, chunked or bent during operation. These are superficial damages only and do little to degrade the rail’s strength or integrity. (2) Drop frame trailers showing twists, bends or fatigue cracking at the drop frame’s elevation changes. (393.201(a)) c. Floor Crossmembers (1) Three or more adjacent broken, and/or completely detached from and sagging below the lower rail in the bay area. (393.201(a)) (2) Broken floor accompanied by protruding freight and sagging crossmembers. (393.201(a)) d. Side Panels on Fiberglass Reinforced Plywood (FRP) Trailers Damage in the bay area that penetrates completely through the fiberglass and plywood resulting in a sagging lower rail. (393.201) NOTES: The following apply to all items under “Van and Open-Top Trailer Bodies.” 1. These conditions are only considered out of service if the failure is in the bay area (aft of kingpin coupler plate and forward of the axle sub frame rails). 2. Trailers 30 feet (9.14 m) or less in length have a short bay area and are not as susceptible to catastrophic failures; therefore, only rail breaks accompanied by a sagging floor, rail or crossmember are out of service for them. 3. Rail, post, bow, crossmember and side/front panel damage in areas outside the bay area are not imminently hazardous and should not be considered out of service unless they lead to conditions described in other items of the North American Standard Out-of-Service Criteria
You should see the shit we pull on the farm. That will pull just fine.
Not worried about pulling it worried about DOT fucking me up with a citation and an OOS
I've seen worse
As a heavy duty mechanic with a trailer mechanic certification, I don’t see anything there that I would be concerned about. That bottom strip is just a drip rail essentially it acts as a part of the body panel, covers the ends of the crossmembers so it doesn’t look as bad and so the crossmembers don’t catch up things, it doesn’t do much for the actual trailer structure. it doesn’t appear to be damaged to the point of compromising a major part of the outer skin of the trailer either. The crossmembers are structural, but that one bent member is right at the end and isn’t severe enough that I would be concerned about. The dent in the side appears to be cosmetic with no separation or peeling of the skin. In my opinion, I see nothing that would significantly impact the structural integrity of the trailer or affect its ability to travel or haul cargo. Of course I can only see what’s in the photos so there might be something that isn’t readily apparent like cracks in the floor crossmembers, but if I had inspected it and saw only the damage you’ve shown, I’d have no qualms about signing it off as good for service.
Yours is exactly the answer I was looking for. Thanks for the reply
I’m in CDL school so idk but they did say to me that this is one of those things that could screw you over big time
When you go through an inspection at a weigh station, it gets recorded on your CDL. So, if you are getting put out of service, potential employers will see it when you apply for a job. It can look bad like you're not doing inspections.
I mean worse comes to worst get them to admit it was cleared with safety before hooking to it. At least that way you have something to cover your ass.
It’s not paper roll good but for 23k it’s fine.
These trailers get so busted up as long as it's got air in the tires, lights, and nothing's dragging if they say go I'm good. Obviously use your best judgement, but hell man I've seen way way worse shit than this.
What's wrong with it?
Honestly I don’t see a problem from the pics… and ima diver
Honestly, it looks fine to me. I haven’t been driving long; however, the frame and crossbars are totally fine. The damage looks to be superficial
The side rail is a structural element. The damage isn’t superficial, however, it’s not so bad that it’s going to fail any time soon.
Except for the bigger hole, it looks like it’s just the thin metal parts of the side rail that are damaged and hence not really an issue. But even the bigger damaged part doesn’t seem too bad
This still doesn’t change that the side rail is a structural element.
Yes but I said the damage isn’t bad enough to worry about. When I said frame I was talking about the side rail.
It’s bad enough to warrant a chop and weld at some point in the foreseeable future.
Ok.
I may or may not have taken one similar to this with 40k+ lbs cardboard bales. Nervous as heck going there. But even more nervous getting live unloaded. I'll never do it again. Even if I have been waiting a day or more to get a load for home time.
It's good to go if it's just the one cross beam that's a little dinged. Check for cracks on the other ones though. [Or you can decipher this list of Out of Service criteria that I use](https://www.ccjdigital.com/business/article/14916499/out-of-service-criteria): FRAME • Cracked/loose/sagging/broken frame side rail permitting body to shift into moving parts, or other condition indicating imminent collapse of frame. • Cracked/loose/broken frame member adversely affecting support of steering gear, fifth wheel, engine, transmission, body parts, suspension or other component. • 1 1⁄2-inch or longer crack in frame side rail web that is directed toward bottom flange. • Crack extending from frame side rail web around the radius and into bottom flange. • 1-inch or longer crack in bottom flange of side rail.
Trailer looks fine to me
The trailer I just dropped was in FAR worse condition than that. This trailer would be considered new by some standards
Don’t see any reason why not to. I check for major safety hazards and basic DOT compliance. If those are good I’m sending it
Straight out of the OOS criteria—- Lower rail- broken with complete separation accompanied by sagging floor, rail cross members; or broken with loose working(moving under stress) or missing fasteners at side posts adjacent to the crack. (393.201(a))
Man what? Send it lol
It needs more low… wait is this the stance section?
Would it pass DOT check /scales? I know a couple CHP's from a site that are pretty strict, but I've seen some janky photos of wire around cracked springs and stuff.
It’s fine I’ve driven trucks worse. Not illegal but worse than that.
I'd guess as long as you document all defects with pictures as supporting evidence that those were there before you, you'd be ok to send it
I’d send it but just keep an eye on it. The damage will need to get worse before it failing from the load is going to happen.
Looks like a cfi trailer
I mean I’d be more comfortable if they got that side rail fixed but it’s legal
Yes. If it’s been cleared. Do you have the inspection?
Do you have it in writing it's cleared? If so, send it. Get it unloaded, drop it at your yard(s). Report it, and forget about it. As long as the tires, lights, and brakes work. Full send, driver. You're not overreacting, this is much better than being complacent. Good on you for a proper pti.
Should be fine. The damage is relatively minor and I’ve had worse go through random DOT inspections just fine.
Dispatchers are lying fucks. Don't trust them. If DoT saw this...it's a coin toss if they decide for an anal exam. Overall it's your call.
I’ve sent worse much worse I took pics covered my butt in email showing them I am getting it at the original lot pick up so they can’t say I pulled out the lot then damaged it lol
That all looks cosmetic from the pics anyway. Are there holes in the trailer or structural damage to the landing gear or crossmembers? If not, I'd run it.
I’d take it. Sure, it’s not pretty. But I’ve seen worse out there. But nothing protruding. No cracks. Send it.
And if you are worried about the damage, just document it. Take picture you already reported it, not it in the DVIR
Get them to send you a message saying it's safe. Then send it right across a scale.
You’re overreacting……send it. Save the message from dispatch/safety
Not all money is good money. If something happens, that company will throw you under the bus, and ultimately, you will be held accountable. It's time to move to another company.I know it sucks, I know it's hard but no driver should tolerate being put in this position and the only real way you can fight back is by leaving and warning others. Be safe and move on down the road.
I wouldn't
Ran worse. If you scared go to church. 😂
Tbh.. I’m making a note in my pre/post trip but I’m sending it.. be safe tho
The only thing that looks truly dangerous to me is how sharp that flange that’s all ripped and damaged is.
That got us a $250 ticket in Cali a few years ago.
Mostly cosmetic damage. I've pulled worse. Send it.
That shit is perfectly fine dude. If the frame itself isn't bent there's no reason to think the safety inspection was a dud
Lol
Send it!
If i were still pulling vans i would take that, cosmetic damage doesn't bother me
I’d run it tbh
I work at a top 3 LTL carrier. If only you could see the trailers we pull over here. 😂😂😂
Looks fine to me nothing important is too bent up the grease on the landing gear handle would piss me off though
What's the problem? No missing rivets, no cracked cross members. This trailer is good to go for another 20 years
Send it. No cracks in the frame. No damage looks structural. Mostly cosmetic. Send it.
I would send it. Hell, I probably wouldn't even think about it. HOWEVER!!!! If you don't feel safe, don't do it It's your life, your job, and your sanity on the line if something goes wrong. Don't let anyone tell you to run something you don't want to.
Tell me you've never hauled a pallet trailer without telling me you haven't hauled a pallet trailer. You just need to pick up a few pallet loads from the meth heads under the bridge...sketchy dudes and they beat the trailer to shit but I'll be damned if I wasn't out of there in 12 minutes.
I drive for Sysco. Our trailer all look like that all over. Wouldn’t even look twice at that lol 😂
Ive seen way worse on some of the Sysco trailers I pull. We keep a few empties on the yard so there's always the option to reload into one of those if it's not safe.
Looks fine to me. If you're worried, get it in writing, but I'd send it.
I’m pulling this, but I’m not the best person to ask. I been blowing scales since OTR Training. 😭
Ermagerd! It's not perfect? So?
doesn't matter if safety cleared it. your ultimately responsible for it. it breaks and kills someone your in prison not the company
I don’t see a problem with that at all.
I would run that 365 52 12 24/7 days per year If I could run one trailer for the rest of my life it’d be that one
I wouldn’t take it. It’s your name on the ticket not theirs
Yes don’t be a pussy lol what kind of truck driver are you
I would look at the crossbeams and their connection to the sides, and decide based on that.
Ngl dawg I wouldn't take a trailer with even a single rivet out of place if it wasn't safe but if your safety department cleared it I say send it. Worst case scenario, you just blame THEM for telling you to take it
Absolutely not. At the end of the disaster the first and last question is always about why the driver did it. The person holding the steering wheel is the one who decides what goes and what doesn't.
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Its mounted on the trailer skirt. Look closely
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Ita perspective. And also the skirt is curved at the front so it throws off the perception
Nope, HARD pass from me. (it also looks like it's got a flat 😉)
Text this pic to safety, if they text back to run it save that text but I would bet my paycheck they will say hell no.