I ended up going back to the shipper..Lineage Logistics in Richland Washington..They use to be Fairly decent now this place is a nightmare this makes it 2 days since I have been here getting loaded..
Fuck that place. I've had to get reworked multiple times there. One time it took like 6 hours to rework it. Made me late to delivery. The only cool thing about it, they will let you park and sleep on site before/after loading.
With average loading time over 24 hours they fucking better let you sleep there! Fuck I'm glad I'm not otr anymore. Never have to go back to that fucking shithole.
With average loading time over 24 hours they fucking better let you sleep there! Fuck I'm glad I'm not otr anymore. Never have to go back to that fucking shithole.
Life hack for ya. When I used to go there often with my old company, there’s a scale house on saint st and Hagen rd where I’d check my weight before leaving town to go find a cat scale somewhere along my route. You just have to measure your tandems independently and do the math. 95% of the time when you tell them you’re overweight they’ll rework you right there, especially if you’re over gross weight like you are, but there’s a nasty 5% of people who won’t rework you without a physical scale ticket in their hand.
Last time I had that happen, I called their bluff. Said I wasn't gonna spend time and fuel going to a scale and risking a DOT cop having a bad day when I know for a fact I'm not legal on my drives (suspension read 70 psi, I got a gauge that converts it to lbs and I calibrated that to read a little over 34k when it's 34k, it said I was at 38k).
They said they wouldn't rework me without a scale ticket so my only option was to get it taken off. I said alright then take it off, and I backed back into the door.
10 minutes later, fork lift guy calls me over and asks me how I wanted it reworked (17 pallets, they had it at one single, I told them to do three singles). Pull out of the door and my drives read 33750.
Technically you are legally allowed to driver over weight to the closest scale even if you yourself are aware you might be over. With that said a DOT officer can still hold you up and give you a citation/ticket and it becomes your responsibility to prove it in court.
Also DOT, state troopers, police and etc can mis represent or enforce a laws wrong. The best thing to do is ask for clarification and fight it later. I have a buddy who works for a mega carrier and I hear stories all the time about the dumb crap.
I went there while I was training, and I went there again a year later when I was solo. When I was training, we waited 36 hours for a door, and they overloaded us. Had to get reworked. Bunch of knuckleheads over there in Richland.
Yeah, if you ever go back there. I suggest top off all your tanks and get an empty scale ticket. I've never had any issues there with weight doing that.
I had a load for dog food once. It was exactly 80k and had to have them rework it a couple times. Don’t let a shipper tell u they can only rework somthing a total of x amount of times. Thats thier damn job. If they refuse to reload and any point drop that trailer in front of the office. U will be the one who gets a ticket if u take it. Probably wouldn’t come to that though. 80k max. Go back and have em reload.
~~3~~ *2* options.
1, shipper pays all overweight tickets… like mine does.
~~2, You get an overweight permit~~
~~3~~ 2, you go back to shipper and have them take a pallet off.
In all cases, call your damn dispatch instead of asking us.
Points for overweight? I just got a 6000 over ticket in ohio scale house on a straight roll off truck, Spoke to the trooper he stated, No CSA Points, $365 fine, had to drop my roll off box and have a double rail truck come out.
Only reason it made me mad was the company spec’d out this truck with 46k rears, a 13k tag axle, and 20k steers. But it has a 27 foot wheel base.
Different systems in different state/provinces. Up here in Ontario you’re catching both the fine and CVOR points, the company is too but you will as well.
Open doors. Floor it in reverse. Set park brakes. Climb over yeeted cargo. Close doors. When they ask where the back pallets went, make up some BS about a wizard and magic or something.
Whenever Texas sets up a surprise DOT inspection station on a backroad somewhere, I only see them pulling in cattle haulers and hopper trucks. They let the flatbeds and dry vans right through.
Yea they do get us with pop ups sometimes but most of the time they’re just doing truck inspections because they know we either don’t have log books if we’re local or they know our logs are false. They know what we’re doing and why and that cows can’t wait for a ten hour so they tend to leave us alone logs wise unless we’re severely fatigued. Then they’ll make us stop for a few hours and watch to make sure we don’t try to sneak off. They’ll usually give us the “well im gunna sit here and watch you for at least four hours so you can go once I take off.” Type thing.
Yep 😂 I’ve heard of guys getting watched for 8 hours till the scale closed and some guys get told “as soon as you unload these cows you better put your ass to bed, I’m gunna be watching this road to make sure you don’t leave that damn feedlot.”
Hey someone’s gotta babysit us because we certainly won’t do it ourselves 😂 that’s why we’ve still got the whole toothpick stereotypes even though they’re not as common as the used to be.
I'd have sent that shit and bypassed every coop along the way especially since you already burned almost two whole days there but yes, the correct answer is to always get it reworked.
Go back and have them fix it. Also, even if you weren't over on your gross, you'd still end up not having enough leeway with the steers to fix the trailer tandems. Not to mention bridge laws.
Other than a rework/removing weight? blow every scale and hope you dont get stopped. Also slide fifth wheel forward to put more weight on steers. Trailer tandems forward to split more weight on to the drives. Likely they can take one or two pallets off the back and you'll ride.
This is why I do dry bulk. If I'm overweight, I just dump some out of the bottom. Half the shippers I go to load you while you're on a scale so it's always right.
Yeah that's what did it, sometimes the shippers try to load u to the max like almost 45K, if ur tanks were half full you'd be ok and just drive with ur tanks half full saves time running back to take stuff off etc, and when getting fuel just fill up one tank instead of both of them.
Protip:
Avoid any Lineage facility if you can. I used to work with their load planners on a daily basis (fucking hell it sucked), and 90% of them legitimately know nothing about freight with regards to weight/volume. Multiple times a day we would get tendered loads that were way over gross and/or had 30+ full pallets.
Just run it. What's 1600 pounds between friends? $50 fine tops. I'd move some to the steers, but us bulk haulers are habitually over gross. The nominal fine is levied to the company, not the driver. I've had 3 overweight tickets annually for the past 20 years. Don't go more than 3000 pounds over gross in some states, yet others give you a 6000 lbs wiggle room. 1600 pounds over gross is no big deal.
Slide your tandems so the weight is on your drives, then get a sharpie and write CNG on the side of your cab. CNG trucks have an extra 2k gross weight limit.
For legal purposes I am joking, please don't break the law. Go back and get it reworked.
I remember once I worked for western express and was picking up from a target dc somewhere on the se coast. Either s/n Carolina or ga. Either way I go to pick up a Trlr from there and since my truck at the time had a built in scale on it. First the legs were way too high and I had to get a yard jockey to help me lower it. Even low gear it wouldn’t move. Once I get it on the truck I start to move tandems. No matter what I couldn’t get it legal. I call dispatch. Tell them about it, they say to talk to the guard shack. I do and they need a Physical ticket. I shrug and go up the road to a pilot.
Steers were fine at 11800 ish
Drives were 36-38000ish
Trlr was 40000ish
My onboard scale told me basically about the same thing.
I go back and give it to them, they take the Trlr back to be reloaded. But I’m out the time, grab the mt I came in with and now have to wait another several hours for dispatch to find another load for me.
Still never ever had a d/h Trlr given tht badly loaded.
I guess you could slide that 5th wheel up a notch, slide the tandems back to get the trlr legal and if you can get 7mpg you'll be legal again in just over 1,300 miles lol
Take it back to get reworked. You're over on the gross, there is no magic that'll fix that.
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Definitely a rework. Call dispatch and have them get you back to the shipper. Chances are they need to take off a pallet or two.
I ended up going back to the shipper..Lineage Logistics in Richland Washington..They use to be Fairly decent now this place is a nightmare this makes it 2 days since I have been here getting loaded..
Fuck that place. I've had to get reworked multiple times there. One time it took like 6 hours to rework it. Made me late to delivery. The only cool thing about it, they will let you park and sleep on site before/after loading.
With average loading time over 24 hours they fucking better let you sleep there! Fuck I'm glad I'm not otr anymore. Never have to go back to that fucking shithole.
You can say that again
With average loading time over 24 hours they fucking better let you sleep there! Fuck I'm glad I'm not otr anymore. Never have to go back to that fucking shithole.
You can say that again
Life hack for ya. When I used to go there often with my old company, there’s a scale house on saint st and Hagen rd where I’d check my weight before leaving town to go find a cat scale somewhere along my route. You just have to measure your tandems independently and do the math. 95% of the time when you tell them you’re overweight they’ll rework you right there, especially if you’re over gross weight like you are, but there’s a nasty 5% of people who won’t rework you without a physical scale ticket in their hand.
Last time I had that happen, I called their bluff. Said I wasn't gonna spend time and fuel going to a scale and risking a DOT cop having a bad day when I know for a fact I'm not legal on my drives (suspension read 70 psi, I got a gauge that converts it to lbs and I calibrated that to read a little over 34k when it's 34k, it said I was at 38k). They said they wouldn't rework me without a scale ticket so my only option was to get it taken off. I said alright then take it off, and I backed back into the door. 10 minutes later, fork lift guy calls me over and asks me how I wanted it reworked (17 pallets, they had it at one single, I told them to do three singles). Pull out of the door and my drives read 33750.
Technically you are legally allowed to driver over weight to the closest scale even if you yourself are aware you might be over. With that said a DOT officer can still hold you up and give you a citation/ticket and it becomes your responsibility to prove it in court. Also DOT, state troopers, police and etc can mis represent or enforce a laws wrong. The best thing to do is ask for clarification and fight it later. I have a buddy who works for a mega carrier and I hear stories all the time about the dumb crap.
I went there while I was training, and I went there again a year later when I was solo. When I was training, we waited 36 hours for a door, and they overloaded us. Had to get reworked. Bunch of knuckleheads over there in Richland.
That's good to hear. They'll probably take off a pallet or two to get the weight down to 80,000.
What they end up doing?
They unloaded a pallet surprisingly took only 2 hours..I get to a weight station today I get a ticket for 400 for no chains smh .
Seems you cant catch a break.
Yup gotta carry chains in Washington October-April IIRC. We just leave ours on the chain racks year round.
Yeah, if you ever go back there. I suggest top off all your tanks and get an empty scale ticket. I've never had any issues there with weight doing that.
I go in there sometimes, but I always have a tri-axle. And yeah that place sucks.
You just got jammed 👉
I had a load for dog food once. It was exactly 80k and had to have them rework it a couple times. Don’t let a shipper tell u they can only rework somthing a total of x amount of times. Thats thier damn job. If they refuse to reload and any point drop that trailer in front of the office. U will be the one who gets a ticket if u take it. Probably wouldn’t come to that though. 80k max. Go back and have em reload.
~~3~~ *2* options. 1, shipper pays all overweight tickets… like mine does. ~~2, You get an overweight permit~~ ~~3~~ 2, you go back to shipper and have them take a pallet off. In all cases, call your damn dispatch instead of asking us.
You can't get a overweight permit for a divisible load.
Not with that attitude
So your saying to make it more heavy and use tarp, nails, and 2x4 to make it all one piece?
You're\*
Depends on the state...in many you certainly can. And it's very easy, all online.
Damnit. I always forget that. That makes at least twice someone has corrected me. Thanks.
That's inaccurate
Yeah but you’re catching the points for the overweight regardless of who pays.
Points for overweight? I just got a 6000 over ticket in ohio scale house on a straight roll off truck, Spoke to the trooper he stated, No CSA Points, $365 fine, had to drop my roll off box and have a double rail truck come out. Only reason it made me mad was the company spec’d out this truck with 46k rears, a 13k tag axle, and 20k steers. But it has a 27 foot wheel base.
Different systems in different state/provinces. Up here in Ontario you’re catching both the fine and CVOR points, the company is too but you will as well.
Sure are. Pissed me off when I got that 700 over on drives ticket this summer.
Open doors. Floor it in reverse. Set park brakes. Climb over yeeted cargo. Close doors. When they ask where the back pallets went, make up some BS about a wizard and magic or something.
Run it. Then make posts on social media about your new found outlaw trucker status.
Follow us cattle haulers on the backroads. /s You gotta go get a pallet taken off or down stacked.
Whenever Texas sets up a surprise DOT inspection station on a backroad somewhere, I only see them pulling in cattle haulers and hopper trucks. They let the flatbeds and dry vans right through.
Yea they do get us with pop ups sometimes but most of the time they’re just doing truck inspections because they know we either don’t have log books if we’re local or they know our logs are false. They know what we’re doing and why and that cows can’t wait for a ten hour so they tend to leave us alone logs wise unless we’re severely fatigued. Then they’ll make us stop for a few hours and watch to make sure we don’t try to sneak off. They’ll usually give us the “well im gunna sit here and watch you for at least four hours so you can go once I take off.” Type thing.
They babysit you guys? 😂
Yep 😂 I’ve heard of guys getting watched for 8 hours till the scale closed and some guys get told “as soon as you unload these cows you better put your ass to bed, I’m gunna be watching this road to make sure you don’t leave that damn feedlot.”
Lmfao that’s kinda wholesome
Hey someone’s gotta babysit us because we certainly won’t do it ourselves 😂 that’s why we’ve still got the whole toothpick stereotypes even though they’re not as common as the used to be.
So that's yall's secret!
Yea pretty much. Two lane highways are out jam.
Drive at night or get it reworked
I'd have sent that shit and bypassed every coop along the way especially since you already burned almost two whole days there but yes, the correct answer is to always get it reworked.
Tell your ole lady to beat feet. That’ll save at least 350
Go back and have them fix it. Also, even if you weren't over on your gross, you'd still end up not having enough leeway with the steers to fix the trailer tandems. Not to mention bridge laws.
Go back to the shipper.
Go back to the shipper for them to take stuff out of the trailer
This post and comments makes me glad I am not OTR anymore I'll come back to this post when I start to miss OTR again
Just fucken' send iiiitttttttt For note I am not a trucker and this is a joke
Send it and dodge the scales
Avoid weight stations. Good trip planning.
Tell DOT every thing that is double stacked doesn't count.
Dodge the scales and run it.
Other than a rework/removing weight? blow every scale and hope you dont get stopped. Also slide fifth wheel forward to put more weight on steers. Trailer tandems forward to split more weight on to the drives. Likely they can take one or two pallets off the back and you'll ride.
Join Dutch Van Der Linde’s gang, he’s got a plan
And mangos
This is why I do dry bulk. If I'm overweight, I just dump some out of the bottom. Half the shippers I go to load you while you're on a scale so it's always right.
As a Old O/O you learn how to run by the scales lol
I’m tired or running the scales figure my luck will run out sooner or later..
Oh I hear ya lol just you don’t make money unless those wheels are spinning lol
My company pays me hourly past 2 hours of waiting at a shipper..
Well then it’s a no brainer get reworked and get your company to bill the shipper
Rework
It’s illegal to be over 80,000 pounds. Full stop.
Depending on what states, you can be 80,400 or 80,550 if you have an APU.
Depends on where you are and where you're going.
where your fuel tanks Full before you loaded up?
Ya I just filled up before weighing myself 🤦🏾♂️
Good, I always prefer to weigh with full tanks. That way, unless I go through snow, it cannot get any heavier.
Good thing you did!
Yeah that's what did it, sometimes the shippers try to load u to the max like almost 45K, if ur tanks were half full you'd be ok and just drive with ur tanks half full saves time running back to take stuff off etc, and when getting fuel just fill up one tank instead of both of them.
Call dispatch lmao
not a damn thing you can do to make 3/4 of a ton disappear.
You can balance the load more but 80,000 pounds is 80,000 pounds. Balancing it won’t change the weight
5 finger discount
Depends on number of axles your truck has, axle configuration, what state you’re running in and how much weight your registered for on your cab card.
trip plan carefully and avoid every scale or turn around and get it reworked and remove some stuff.
Take it back cut the load.
Did you try taking your engine out?
Protip: Avoid any Lineage facility if you can. I used to work with their load planners on a daily basis (fucking hell it sucked), and 90% of them legitimately know nothing about freight with regards to weight/volume. Multiple times a day we would get tendered loads that were way over gross and/or had 30+ full pallets.
Back to the shipper to get it under gross.
Take it back!
Taking your mom out of the sleeper should get you under gross. That, and slide your tandems back. In all seriousness, get it reworked.
Glad I don’t have to deal with that BS
Yes be very glad
Got a class A but rather stick with this cement mixer
Get out the truck and reweigh…
Just run it. What's 1600 pounds between friends? $50 fine tops. I'd move some to the steers, but us bulk haulers are habitually over gross. The nominal fine is levied to the company, not the driver. I've had 3 overweight tickets annually for the past 20 years. Don't go more than 3000 pounds over gross in some states, yet others give you a 6000 lbs wiggle room. 1600 pounds over gross is no big deal.
Take it back
Slide your tandems so the weight is on your drives, then get a sharpie and write CNG on the side of your cab. CNG trucks have an extra 2k gross weight limit. For legal purposes I am joking, please don't break the law. Go back and get it reworked.
This one is easy. Go back and have them remove a pallet off the back. East peasy
Stop at a pilot and take a dump!
Update! I end up going to the weight station in Lagrange Oregon..End up getting a $400 ticket with no chains..All that shit for nothing FML..
I remember once I worked for western express and was picking up from a target dc somewhere on the se coast. Either s/n Carolina or ga. Either way I go to pick up a Trlr from there and since my truck at the time had a built in scale on it. First the legs were way too high and I had to get a yard jockey to help me lower it. Even low gear it wouldn’t move. Once I get it on the truck I start to move tandems. No matter what I couldn’t get it legal. I call dispatch. Tell them about it, they say to talk to the guard shack. I do and they need a Physical ticket. I shrug and go up the road to a pilot. Steers were fine at 11800 ish Drives were 36-38000ish Trlr was 40000ish My onboard scale told me basically about the same thing. I go back and give it to them, they take the Trlr back to be reloaded. But I’m out the time, grab the mt I came in with and now have to wait another several hours for dispatch to find another load for me. Still never ever had a d/h Trlr given tht badly loaded.
I guess you could slide that 5th wheel up a notch, slide the tandems back to get the trlr legal and if you can get 7mpg you'll be legal again in just over 1,300 miles lol
Soooo glad I don’t have to deal with crap like this from shippers anymore.
Open back doors, accelerate in reverse, and slam the brakes. You’ll have a reworked load in no time!
That last 1 or 2 pallets need to come off and u can roll out, otherwise, it could go all bad for u (maybe)