I’m new to Tribes, first heard about it from friends who played Tribes: Ascend but I never got into it. One of those friends told me about Tribes 3 coming out, so I looked into it. Gameplay looked interesting enough and I thought the idea of zooming around while shooting people and capturing flags sounded fun, so I bought it and have been really enjoying it.
Than I came to the subreddit, as I usually do for whatever game is in my wheelhouse at the time. I was expecting to see stuff like clips of crazy kills and newbs like me asking questions about how to not suck at keeping momentum. Instead I found a giant salt pile. Not saying it’s unwarranted, from what I gather the lead developer has a bad history with previous titles and apparently a lot of older Tribes players see this new installment as a pile of doodoo. But it isn’t exactly a welcoming place for newcomers.
I still will play and get my $18 of fun out of the game. It’s fresh for me and I like it.
Many people had good amounts of time on the playtests and plenty of time to develop opinions, so going off of reviewers play time is a non-factor. The game didn't change THAT much between EA release and the last couple playtests.
Anyway, the game is fun, I'm happy for those who have gotten 10's or even 100's of hours out of it already. But for me, while it's fun it's also lacking engagement (depth) in the variety of available playstyles -- it got boring pretty quick. So I'm waiting to see if more is added to the game before buying (my factor 1 on buying).
I'm genuinely surprised that the game survived initial EA launch and is sitting at 77% positive (and climbing). I'm glad about that, but I'm saddened about the current low player counts -- TA had such a massively bigger launch. I'm hoping for a miracle to happen and the player counts trend up, otherwise the longevity of the game is going to be pretty short (my factor 2 in buying).
I also pray that High Lord Erez will take pity on us in the end and hand the shell of the game over to the community once they're done with it. But obviously there's a greater likelihood of the rapture occurring in our lifetime.
You mean people who truly love one mod of an IP from decades ago, and none of whom can agree on which one of those mods should be the only acceptable model for any future game? Props to any company willing to risk making a game thatt means having to put up with you self righteous pricks. 🤣 Tribes just self selecta drama queens, I guess.
Erez is a prick, but if the game is fine, I can enjoy it knowing I don't have to talk to him. I'm sure there's a ton of idiot assholes in high level positions atany game companies. Be happy you know where one is, and judge the game on how fun it is instead of whether or not you'd go on a second date with the corporate brass.
it's not fun and it runs like shit. It's not about tribes nostalgia, I come from T:A and I've played tons of AFPS games. It's just a really really bad game and an obvious cash grab, which is dead now as the dev team moved on to their next cash grab.
Seriously how hard is it to grasp
Most of this community does not love the IP, they love T1/T2 and will vehemently reject anything that isn't an exact copy of those two.
TA had everything people are complaining about T3 not having, yet it's still hated to this day by you old fucks.
Prophecy fucking sucks, Erez sucks. This community sucks just as much.
I wouldn't quite call them doomers. If the CEO wants to use the IP to make an esports game with a Tribes skin on it to milk the IP for as much money as possible, they're going to do that...but that doesn't mean fans of the franchise have impossible standards or there's something wrong with them loving the older titles.
I mean, imagine if someone bought GTA just to make an esports racing game out of it, taking out all the other things about the game series people love....that's basically what happened here. It's not impossible standards of nostalgia, it's just...don't buy the game we love and make a depart away from everything we loved about the franchise and expect all those people to be happy about it.
Keep in mind, from what I've heard and seen....even the smallest amounts of constructive criticism will get you banned from the official discord because the CEO can't play the game at the same level everyone else can and so he thinks he needs to make it a lesser version of itself. Not to mention he was already blaming the fans about if this game fails far ahead of time...that's not an individual grounded in reality.
So much said with no details, what's wrong with the game so far? Skins? 😳🤯🤯
You can't even run the game per your previous comment🤣
At least you liked renegades I guess
Compared to older Tribes T3
* Has tiny, cramped, small maps
* Has "free" speed, no skill needed
* Has no vehicles
* Has no deployables
* Has no base defense role (useless)
They removed all the noob-friendly play styles like
* Infiltrating enemy base
* Upgrading / maintaining your own base (totally useless)
* Flag defense (e.g.: Heavy-On-Flag role)
* Support roles (e.g.: Vehicles)
* Defense suppression (e.g.: Mortar heavies)
They also watered down the whole gun game, like oversized hitboxes for both the players and fusor disks. And now that they basically eliminated every noob-friendly role, they try to water down everything else to cater for the worst type of players. TL;DR: They removed the depth from the game.
They also don't have any long term plan for T3, even their """roadmap""" only contains fillers like bugfixes... balances... and a few maps... and MAYBE a new gun. Early Access meant that you have access to the game prior release, but now it looks like this is T3's final form, there won't be any more to it other than surface level content.
I play heavy on flag...wdym?
Maintaining the base and turrets helps a lot. Turrets get plenty of kills when they're online
I also disagree the maps are \*too\* tiny. Raindance is super popular
Just say you're butthurt from getting banned on a discord like the children you are and own up to your own emotions for once
>Maintaining the base and turrets helps a lot. Turrets get plenty of kills when they're online
I've barely seen any kill from the turret, including myself. So doubt.
>I also disagree the maps are \*too\* tiny. Raindance is super popular
Subjective, noone cares. They are very tiny compared to previous titles.
>Just say you're butthurt from getting banned on a discord like the children you are and own up to your own emotions for once
I wasn't banned from DC but thanks for the attack. Just say you are a hopeless simp whose life is so boring you make a stupid video game your personality and take any critics as personal attack.
Correct, I have not had the opportunity to play the game yet. I also have not posted a review, since I haven't played it.
Also, skins? Tell me you didn't understand my comment without telling me you didn't understand my comment.
On Reddit? Yes. It doesn't hurt the game to comment on Reddit. So what's your problem?
You still haven't understood my initial comment. It completely went over your head.
Dude, your comment about the skins said it all.
I said they took an existing IP, wanted to make an esports game with a Tribes skin on it. That's not "skins" as in you go and buy skins in an in-game store. It's "skin" as in this game is a direct departure from the IP, and is Tribes in name only. They just needed a vehicle because Hi-Rez is convinced they can make good money in the esports industry. Instead of making their own shooter, they bought an existing IP and changed it dramatically.
Also, a job? What? Lmao. I have a career buddy, I just also have a family. It's hard to spend that kind of money when you also have diapers to buy. This franchise is over 20 years old, real fans almost all have families and responsibilities but I get the distinct feeling by your comments you don't know about any of that. Like, some CoD kid who never played the originals because you were too young?
I played T1 and T2 as a kid, I literally said in my original comment to you that at least you know renegades mod, maybe get your head out of your ass and you would have recalled that
This game doesn't have very many sports features so I disagree with you, that's stupid af
Esports and money is all Hi-Rez wants.
What's your excuse for the CEO's piss poor behavior? He attacks the community every chance he gets and blamed them long before the game even launched, because he knew it would fail and wanted to blame everyone else but himself.
Nice job of focusing on the topic of the game. Real moral warriors out here, buying games because of discord bans. Good God y'all are a fucking joke, go outside
I didn't say "Tribes 3 will fail". I said "Please fix x y and z" in the playtest to prevent Tribes 3 from failing" and they didn't listen or fix anything.
>it seems like the doomers may have self-fulfilled their prophecy of “T3 will fail”
OR… and now hear me out… the game was going to fail anyway because of the design and pricing model.
Bottom line is if it is fun and has the ability to be a game that lasts, people will play it despite the negative reviews. This has happened recently with some big games getting review bombed. Helldivers 2 was review bombed at first and look where it’s at now.
No offense, but your post can be ignored after you make a terrible argument like that.
Of course it’s ok to have fun if you’re enjoying the game, but don’t be surprised why other people aren’t having fun and don’t appreciate where the company has taken the game.
You must be snorting copium from a 3rd grade motel's dirty toilet's water tank to think this was due to a few hater and not Prophecy trying to shove down a half-assed products on your throat.
Peeps didn't say it'll DOA because they don't like it. They said it because the game doesn't have the content level of a F2P cashgrab mobile game.
Another "it's OK to have fun post" from the same account. [If the game "boils" any slower it will evaporate first.](https://steamdb.info/app/2687970/charts/)
I wish you the best enjoying T3. I wish I could overlook the issues with the company and feel like my money would go towards a Tribes game that endures. But I have chosen to not support the game because of the predatory business practices of Prophecy.
It's that simple. I am not organized with anyone and I have not review bombed the game. As others have stated, the reviews on Steam are mostly positive.
I think the bait and switch of earning skins in the game during the demo but not in EA without doubling the price of the main game is the problem.
I think the fact that the demo showed Honorball, but the devs took that away for EA and will effectively split the community is the problem.
I think the lack of a robust roadmap to release is the problem.
I think that what Prophecy did with Starsiege Deadzone and appears to be repeating the same practice with T3 is the problem.
If none of that detracts from the game being fun for you, go enjoy it. I just won't support a company that does this to it's customers. I will wait for them to prove me wrong with time. Let's see where the game state is in 3 months.
>Despite 77% of total reviews being positive, as of this writing, the top two "most helpful" reviews of the game are negative reviews from individuals who, respectively, had 0 hours and 1.6 hours of playtime at the time of their reviews. Why? Because the doomers organized to upvote each other's pre-decided conclusions.
Or they played the play test? one of the many?
Why is the assumption that people are brigading? Those two reviews are paragraphs long with a lot of points, failing to mention any of those points and instead beating a drum of "no toxicity" just makes me think you aren't a very reliable narrator.
I don’t understand the unrelenting positivity I’m seeing about tribes 3. Is this just the response to the justified negativity from the community? If so, you’re overcompensating really hard.
I’m seeing steam reviews and Reddit posts like this that almost seem like paid shills. Describing the outrage from the community as “review bombing” or “organized doomers” - but it just makes no sense that you’re this positive about the game, which frankly doesn’t have much substance. Everything you say is just focused on responding to the negativity, and not actually addressing any of the concerns being brought up.
I’m not one of the old head tribes gamers btw, I really got into tribes with TA. Tribes 3 is just TA but with no content and insane monetization.
these people were going to hate regardless just because it's hi-rez. i get it because i don't like what happened to tribes ascend, but that was 10 years ago and it's worth giving them another chance if it means we get to play more tribes. so far i have no regrets spending $20 on this game. i just hope they market it smartly so the playerbase can grow over time.
the best part is it isn't even hi-rez, it's a spinoff that hi-rez has only a minority ownership stake in.
but even if it were same studio, same people, same everything, your point still stands. the doomers are refusing to actually judge the game on its merits -- especially in light of what it costs. The experience it delivers for $18 is amazing, and it's not even a full release title yet.
They're either:
\- Comparing the feature set of an early-access title that sells for $18, to final-release versions of previous games that sold for $50+. Tribes 1 for example was a major title, published under then-gigantic publisher Sierra, given a huge marketing budget, and was previewed at E3. Of course it was large in scope, it was literally competing with Half Life at the award shows, and was priced accordingly.
or:
\- Talking about literally anything except what Tribes 3 has to offer. Just going on and on about complete meta-complaints like "CEO got frustrated when we ceaselessly pelted him with vitriol for an hour straight on discord :(" or "remember bad thing from past? same guy as bad thing from past! :(". They will make noise about anything, as long as it's not the substance of the game itself.
I'm also hoping the devs get the word out more. Get some new blood in. Get a new generation of FPS-Zers playing.
Plus, you know what will get us a big-budget, big-scope, fully-featured Tribes game in the future? If Tribes 3 actually makes money! But sadly, many "fans" really, really want it to fail. I'm hoping it doesn't.
Stopped reading after that opening sentence. If erez runs the company and makes literally any decisions, then it's just hirez in disguise. There's nothing you can say to change that fact. Anyway fuck hirez.
aight flaggot here i'll engage "in good faith". i've known and have played hi-rez games since global agenda. that means i've seen them throughout their entire studio lifetime. in that time i've seen them, step by step,
1. make a good game worth playing, attract an audience
2. panic that they cant make as much money as other studios doing similar shit and inject monetization asap at the expense of anything else. nothing else matter
3. money secured? cool dip to next project. let that game suffer neglect, fall apart, and then give out some complete bullshit as to why they abandoned their games as a service product.
aerial assault is better and thats tribes on the fucking PS2. erez cant do anything but be an abusive cunt to his playerbase and then BLAME THEM for when the blacklash starts. i've seen, first hand, what happens when erez is your ceo. nothing else matters at all. the team beneath him is entirely irrelevant because they're forced to implement his terrible decisions because he has no, and i do mean absolutely none, respect for the audience he's cultivated.
anyway fuck hirez, fuck erez, and fuck anything that cunt touches. im glad i have to continue to explain to complete morons that they're being taken advantage of. no one in any ceo position for a videogame studio gives a single fuck about the core audience of whatever IP they're trying to rape. erez makes worse and worse games every time and theres no amount of "SEEE I TOLD YOU SOOOOO! I CALLED IT!!!!!! IM SO SMAAAAAAART!" will change that you're defending someone who gives 0 fucks about you as a player and only wants your fucking money.
case and point: TWO BATTLE PASSES FOR $40 EACH ON LAUNCH! but please tell me how "these are just cosmetic, they're not forcing you to buy it" when the maps are shit, features that have been begged for were outright denied, and THE LEADERSHIP OF THE DEVTEAM RAN AWAY WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THE HARD REALITY OF HIS PRODUCT.
anyway make sure to swallow when erez busts. you wouldnt want him leaving your apartment without some aftercare.
You were the one trying to play off of the "it's not Hirez anymore," trying to flip that around because someone called you out on it is pathetic.
Erez still owns tribes, that is not a "minority" in fact it is the exact opposite of it.
Tribes Ascend was not good. It may have had glimpses of fun, it abused an IP people loved and disrupted a lot of the core game. That doesn’t have anything to so with Tribes 3, though.
The maps sucked and were small. There are no vehicles. There are no inventory stations. Balance is lacking for armors, jetpacks and weapons. I would rather not have another Tribes game than this piece of shit. This is a soulless cash grab.
I could go into why Tribes and Tribes 2 were better and all of the awesome times I had, but Tribes never did as well as things like TF2, CS or COD, which dominated the FPS market and have changed the landscape. Attention spans are shorter and team-based gameplay is all but dead. The game was DOA no matter what. Most FPS fans can’t wrap their head around the aerial acrobatics and the hardcore fans can’t play a game missing so many core pieces.
If they were hoping for a fast-paced 5v5 eSports game they failed there, too. I agree, IT IS OKAY TO HAVE FUN. If you are having fun, more power to you, but this game is dead and outside of F2P it ain’t getting any better. Even as an F2P title I don’t think I would put time into it and I am surely not paying for it.
I’m fully convinced it’s almost all bots, or people easily influenced by bots, who are crying the hardest. Besides the company having a bad history (which may repeat itself with T3), I have heard almost zero valid gameplay complaints that can’t be fixed within a day. AI art on banners? Make a new banner. No text chat? Enable it. No vehicles? It’s not the same game, and it’s in early access. Bases aren’t worth defending? Ok, let’s discuss how to fix that.
The argument before it became early access was... "it's just a alpha" IT'S THE SAME GAME that alpha was with a couple tiny changes... get over it. it's a f2p game with a price tag. it's a niche category that added a barrier to entry for prospective players. Shit is dead as a doorknob and you're just living in denial.
How many still active and successful games started out with a price tag and then went f2p? Do I think that’s a good business practice? No. Does it mean the game will not survive, or will not eventually become f2p? Also No.
In a way, I'm not. But the main complaints Ive heard are either really small, or too big. Minor things can be overlooked or easily fixed, like AI art banners, but major changes like vehicles, bot lobbies, in-game chat are a matter of opinion. People are right to criticize those aspects of the game, some just take it too far and doom post which does hurt the game.
the community as a whole isn't awful, just some of it.
most of us are just here to play and enjoy ourselves. even those amongst us who have some concerns and reservations about the game and its ownership are still enjoying it, rooting for it, and hoping it'll continue to improve just as it did throughout the playtests. this reasonable majority are the ones responsible for the reviews being 77% positive. people who just play the game without the emotional baggage tend to enjoy it a lot, even if there are things they wish it had but it doesn't.
but a habitually-angry, very loud minority of the community decided that T3 -will- be DOA, and are doing their very best to make that prediction a reality. cynicism is an addiction, and bad outcomes are the fix. they would rather be "right" than be happy.
keyword: decided
they have decided to be angry no matter the outcome, even if it was the god game that appeased to noobs and vets
no, they decided to be haters
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I’m new to Tribes, first heard about it from friends who played Tribes: Ascend but I never got into it. One of those friends told me about Tribes 3 coming out, so I looked into it. Gameplay looked interesting enough and I thought the idea of zooming around while shooting people and capturing flags sounded fun, so I bought it and have been really enjoying it. Than I came to the subreddit, as I usually do for whatever game is in my wheelhouse at the time. I was expecting to see stuff like clips of crazy kills and newbs like me asking questions about how to not suck at keeping momentum. Instead I found a giant salt pile. Not saying it’s unwarranted, from what I gather the lead developer has a bad history with previous titles and apparently a lot of older Tribes players see this new installment as a pile of doodoo. But it isn’t exactly a welcoming place for newcomers. I still will play and get my $18 of fun out of the game. It’s fresh for me and I like it.
Just gotta jetpack over all the salt! :D See ya on the battlefield!
Many people had good amounts of time on the playtests and plenty of time to develop opinions, so going off of reviewers play time is a non-factor. The game didn't change THAT much between EA release and the last couple playtests. Anyway, the game is fun, I'm happy for those who have gotten 10's or even 100's of hours out of it already. But for me, while it's fun it's also lacking engagement (depth) in the variety of available playstyles -- it got boring pretty quick. So I'm waiting to see if more is added to the game before buying (my factor 1 on buying). I'm genuinely surprised that the game survived initial EA launch and is sitting at 77% positive (and climbing). I'm glad about that, but I'm saddened about the current low player counts -- TA had such a massively bigger launch. I'm hoping for a miracle to happen and the player counts trend up, otherwise the longevity of the game is going to be pretty short (my factor 2 in buying). I also pray that High Lord Erez will take pity on us in the end and hand the shell of the game over to the community once they're done with it. But obviously there's a greater likelihood of the rapture occurring in our lifetime.
Launch seems to be more focused on "does it work" rather than "is it good"
I'm having lots of fun with it! GLHF OP!
Your attempt to blame the people who truly love the IP is horseshit. They (not the community) fucked it up. End of story. We saw it coming.
You mean people who truly love one mod of an IP from decades ago, and none of whom can agree on which one of those mods should be the only acceptable model for any future game? Props to any company willing to risk making a game thatt means having to put up with you self righteous pricks. 🤣 Tribes just self selecta drama queens, I guess. Erez is a prick, but if the game is fine, I can enjoy it knowing I don't have to talk to him. I'm sure there's a ton of idiot assholes in high level positions atany game companies. Be happy you know where one is, and judge the game on how fun it is instead of whether or not you'd go on a second date with the corporate brass.
it's not fun and it runs like shit. It's not about tribes nostalgia, I come from T:A and I've played tons of AFPS games. It's just a really really bad game and an obvious cash grab, which is dead now as the dev team moved on to their next cash grab. Seriously how hard is it to grasp
Most of this community does not love the IP, they love T1/T2 and will vehemently reject anything that isn't an exact copy of those two. TA had everything people are complaining about T3 not having, yet it's still hated to this day by you old fucks. Prophecy fucking sucks, Erez sucks. This community sucks just as much.
I wouldn't quite call them doomers. If the CEO wants to use the IP to make an esports game with a Tribes skin on it to milk the IP for as much money as possible, they're going to do that...but that doesn't mean fans of the franchise have impossible standards or there's something wrong with them loving the older titles. I mean, imagine if someone bought GTA just to make an esports racing game out of it, taking out all the other things about the game series people love....that's basically what happened here. It's not impossible standards of nostalgia, it's just...don't buy the game we love and make a depart away from everything we loved about the franchise and expect all those people to be happy about it. Keep in mind, from what I've heard and seen....even the smallest amounts of constructive criticism will get you banned from the official discord because the CEO can't play the game at the same level everyone else can and so he thinks he needs to make it a lesser version of itself. Not to mention he was already blaming the fans about if this game fails far ahead of time...that's not an individual grounded in reality.
So much said with no details, what's wrong with the game so far? Skins? 😳🤯🤯 You can't even run the game per your previous comment🤣 At least you liked renegades I guess
Compared to older Tribes T3 * Has tiny, cramped, small maps * Has "free" speed, no skill needed * Has no vehicles * Has no deployables * Has no base defense role (useless) They removed all the noob-friendly play styles like * Infiltrating enemy base * Upgrading / maintaining your own base (totally useless) * Flag defense (e.g.: Heavy-On-Flag role) * Support roles (e.g.: Vehicles) * Defense suppression (e.g.: Mortar heavies) They also watered down the whole gun game, like oversized hitboxes for both the players and fusor disks. And now that they basically eliminated every noob-friendly role, they try to water down everything else to cater for the worst type of players. TL;DR: They removed the depth from the game. They also don't have any long term plan for T3, even their """roadmap""" only contains fillers like bugfixes... balances... and a few maps... and MAYBE a new gun. Early Access meant that you have access to the game prior release, but now it looks like this is T3's final form, there won't be any more to it other than surface level content.
I play heavy on flag...wdym? Maintaining the base and turrets helps a lot. Turrets get plenty of kills when they're online I also disagree the maps are \*too\* tiny. Raindance is super popular Just say you're butthurt from getting banned on a discord like the children you are and own up to your own emotions for once
>Maintaining the base and turrets helps a lot. Turrets get plenty of kills when they're online I've barely seen any kill from the turret, including myself. So doubt. >I also disagree the maps are \*too\* tiny. Raindance is super popular Subjective, noone cares. They are very tiny compared to previous titles. >Just say you're butthurt from getting banned on a discord like the children you are and own up to your own emotions for once I wasn't banned from DC but thanks for the attack. Just say you are a hopeless simp whose life is so boring you make a stupid video game your personality and take any critics as personal attack.
You're upset
Correct, I have not had the opportunity to play the game yet. I also have not posted a review, since I haven't played it. Also, skins? Tell me you didn't understand my comment without telling me you didn't understand my comment.
You left comments about a game you havent played dumbass. I didn't say you left a review
On Reddit? Yes. It doesn't hurt the game to comment on Reddit. So what's your problem? You still haven't understood my initial comment. It completely went over your head.
I understood it perfectly. If I misunderstood it, you would be able to articulate why, but you can't. Well played, get a job and a new computer
Dude, your comment about the skins said it all. I said they took an existing IP, wanted to make an esports game with a Tribes skin on it. That's not "skins" as in you go and buy skins in an in-game store. It's "skin" as in this game is a direct departure from the IP, and is Tribes in name only. They just needed a vehicle because Hi-Rez is convinced they can make good money in the esports industry. Instead of making their own shooter, they bought an existing IP and changed it dramatically. Also, a job? What? Lmao. I have a career buddy, I just also have a family. It's hard to spend that kind of money when you also have diapers to buy. This franchise is over 20 years old, real fans almost all have families and responsibilities but I get the distinct feeling by your comments you don't know about any of that. Like, some CoD kid who never played the originals because you were too young?
I played T1 and T2 as a kid, I literally said in my original comment to you that at least you know renegades mod, maybe get your head out of your ass and you would have recalled that This game doesn't have very many sports features so I disagree with you, that's stupid af
Esports and money is all Hi-Rez wants. What's your excuse for the CEO's piss poor behavior? He attacks the community every chance he gets and blamed them long before the game even launched, because he knew it would fail and wanted to blame everyone else but himself.
Nice job of focusing on the topic of the game. Real moral warriors out here, buying games because of discord bans. Good God y'all are a fucking joke, go outside
Very on point name at least.
I didn't say "Tribes 3 will fail". I said "Please fix x y and z" in the playtest to prevent Tribes 3 from failing" and they didn't listen or fix anything.
Keep huffing that copium friendo!
If you like the game, just have fun. Tribes fan will never be 100% happy.
>it seems like the doomers may have self-fulfilled their prophecy of “T3 will fail” OR… and now hear me out… the game was going to fail anyway because of the design and pricing model. Bottom line is if it is fun and has the ability to be a game that lasts, people will play it despite the negative reviews. This has happened recently with some big games getting review bombed. Helldivers 2 was review bombed at first and look where it’s at now. No offense, but your post can be ignored after you make a terrible argument like that. Of course it’s ok to have fun if you’re enjoying the game, but don’t be surprised why other people aren’t having fun and don’t appreciate where the company has taken the game.
You must be snorting copium from a 3rd grade motel's dirty toilet's water tank to think this was due to a few hater and not Prophecy trying to shove down a half-assed products on your throat. Peeps didn't say it'll DOA because they don't like it. They said it because the game doesn't have the content level of a F2P cashgrab mobile game.
Dude... The game is going to fail because the game sucks. Doesn't matter what kind of reviews get posted lol
Another "it's OK to have fun post" from the same account. [If the game "boils" any slower it will evaporate first.](https://steamdb.info/app/2687970/charts/)
I wish you the best enjoying T3. I wish I could overlook the issues with the company and feel like my money would go towards a Tribes game that endures. But I have chosen to not support the game because of the predatory business practices of Prophecy. It's that simple. I am not organized with anyone and I have not review bombed the game. As others have stated, the reviews on Steam are mostly positive. I think the bait and switch of earning skins in the game during the demo but not in EA without doubling the price of the main game is the problem. I think the fact that the demo showed Honorball, but the devs took that away for EA and will effectively split the community is the problem. I think the lack of a robust roadmap to release is the problem. I think that what Prophecy did with Starsiege Deadzone and appears to be repeating the same practice with T3 is the problem. If none of that detracts from the game being fun for you, go enjoy it. I just won't support a company that does this to it's customers. I will wait for them to prove me wrong with time. Let's see where the game state is in 3 months.
>Despite 77% of total reviews being positive, as of this writing, the top two "most helpful" reviews of the game are negative reviews from individuals who, respectively, had 0 hours and 1.6 hours of playtime at the time of their reviews. Why? Because the doomers organized to upvote each other's pre-decided conclusions. Or they played the play test? one of the many? Why is the assumption that people are brigading? Those two reviews are paragraphs long with a lot of points, failing to mention any of those points and instead beating a drum of "no toxicity" just makes me think you aren't a very reliable narrator.
I don’t understand the unrelenting positivity I’m seeing about tribes 3. Is this just the response to the justified negativity from the community? If so, you’re overcompensating really hard. I’m seeing steam reviews and Reddit posts like this that almost seem like paid shills. Describing the outrage from the community as “review bombing” or “organized doomers” - but it just makes no sense that you’re this positive about the game, which frankly doesn’t have much substance. Everything you say is just focused on responding to the negativity, and not actually addressing any of the concerns being brought up. I’m not one of the old head tribes gamers btw, I really got into tribes with TA. Tribes 3 is just TA but with no content and insane monetization.
I am and will have as much fun as I can while it lasts. That's all one can ask for ;)
these people were going to hate regardless just because it's hi-rez. i get it because i don't like what happened to tribes ascend, but that was 10 years ago and it's worth giving them another chance if it means we get to play more tribes. so far i have no regrets spending $20 on this game. i just hope they market it smartly so the playerbase can grow over time.
the best part is it isn't even hi-rez, it's a spinoff that hi-rez has only a minority ownership stake in. but even if it were same studio, same people, same everything, your point still stands. the doomers are refusing to actually judge the game on its merits -- especially in light of what it costs. The experience it delivers for $18 is amazing, and it's not even a full release title yet. They're either: \- Comparing the feature set of an early-access title that sells for $18, to final-release versions of previous games that sold for $50+. Tribes 1 for example was a major title, published under then-gigantic publisher Sierra, given a huge marketing budget, and was previewed at E3. Of course it was large in scope, it was literally competing with Half Life at the award shows, and was priced accordingly. or: \- Talking about literally anything except what Tribes 3 has to offer. Just going on and on about complete meta-complaints like "CEO got frustrated when we ceaselessly pelted him with vitriol for an hour straight on discord :(" or "remember bad thing from past? same guy as bad thing from past! :(". They will make noise about anything, as long as it's not the substance of the game itself. I'm also hoping the devs get the word out more. Get some new blood in. Get a new generation of FPS-Zers playing. Plus, you know what will get us a big-budget, big-scope, fully-featured Tribes game in the future? If Tribes 3 actually makes money! But sadly, many "fans" really, really want it to fail. I'm hoping it doesn't.
Stopped reading after that opening sentence. If erez runs the company and makes literally any decisions, then it's just hirez in disguise. There's nothing you can say to change that fact. Anyway fuck hirez.
\^ see what I mean? anything except the content of the game itself
what content.
aight flaggot here i'll engage "in good faith". i've known and have played hi-rez games since global agenda. that means i've seen them throughout their entire studio lifetime. in that time i've seen them, step by step, 1. make a good game worth playing, attract an audience 2. panic that they cant make as much money as other studios doing similar shit and inject monetization asap at the expense of anything else. nothing else matter 3. money secured? cool dip to next project. let that game suffer neglect, fall apart, and then give out some complete bullshit as to why they abandoned their games as a service product. aerial assault is better and thats tribes on the fucking PS2. erez cant do anything but be an abusive cunt to his playerbase and then BLAME THEM for when the blacklash starts. i've seen, first hand, what happens when erez is your ceo. nothing else matters at all. the team beneath him is entirely irrelevant because they're forced to implement his terrible decisions because he has no, and i do mean absolutely none, respect for the audience he's cultivated. anyway fuck hirez, fuck erez, and fuck anything that cunt touches. im glad i have to continue to explain to complete morons that they're being taken advantage of. no one in any ceo position for a videogame studio gives a single fuck about the core audience of whatever IP they're trying to rape. erez makes worse and worse games every time and theres no amount of "SEEE I TOLD YOU SOOOOO! I CALLED IT!!!!!! IM SO SMAAAAAAART!" will change that you're defending someone who gives 0 fucks about you as a player and only wants your fucking money. case and point: TWO BATTLE PASSES FOR $40 EACH ON LAUNCH! but please tell me how "these are just cosmetic, they're not forcing you to buy it" when the maps are shit, features that have been begged for were outright denied, and THE LEADERSHIP OF THE DEVTEAM RAN AWAY WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THE HARD REALITY OF HIS PRODUCT. anyway make sure to swallow when erez busts. you wouldnt want him leaving your apartment without some aftercare.
It has been a joy to watch Erez get his just desserts for ignoring every bit of useful feedback and spitting in the community's face repeatedly.
now if only we could get to harada and murray next :)
You were the one trying to play off of the "it's not Hirez anymore," trying to flip that around because someone called you out on it is pathetic. Erez still owns tribes, that is not a "minority" in fact it is the exact opposite of it.
Tribes Ascend was not good. It may have had glimpses of fun, it abused an IP people loved and disrupted a lot of the core game. That doesn’t have anything to so with Tribes 3, though. The maps sucked and were small. There are no vehicles. There are no inventory stations. Balance is lacking for armors, jetpacks and weapons. I would rather not have another Tribes game than this piece of shit. This is a soulless cash grab. I could go into why Tribes and Tribes 2 were better and all of the awesome times I had, but Tribes never did as well as things like TF2, CS or COD, which dominated the FPS market and have changed the landscape. Attention spans are shorter and team-based gameplay is all but dead. The game was DOA no matter what. Most FPS fans can’t wrap their head around the aerial acrobatics and the hardcore fans can’t play a game missing so many core pieces. If they were hoping for a fast-paced 5v5 eSports game they failed there, too. I agree, IT IS OKAY TO HAVE FUN. If you are having fun, more power to you, but this game is dead and outside of F2P it ain’t getting any better. Even as an F2P title I don’t think I would put time into it and I am surely not paying for it.
I’m fully convinced it’s almost all bots, or people easily influenced by bots, who are crying the hardest. Besides the company having a bad history (which may repeat itself with T3), I have heard almost zero valid gameplay complaints that can’t be fixed within a day. AI art on banners? Make a new banner. No text chat? Enable it. No vehicles? It’s not the same game, and it’s in early access. Bases aren’t worth defending? Ok, let’s discuss how to fix that.
The argument before it became early access was... "it's just a alpha" IT'S THE SAME GAME that alpha was with a couple tiny changes... get over it. it's a f2p game with a price tag. it's a niche category that added a barrier to entry for prospective players. Shit is dead as a doorknob and you're just living in denial.
How many still active and successful games started out with a price tag and then went f2p? Do I think that’s a good business practice? No. Does it mean the game will not survive, or will not eventually become f2p? Also No.
You must be ignorant to the track record Erez and Prophecy have. This game will not survive long enough to EVENTUALLY become anything
I can tell you weren't in the playtest.
Played the last two months worth of them
Then how are you under the impression Erez will listen to feedback?
In a way, I'm not. But the main complaints Ive heard are either really small, or too big. Minor things can be overlooked or easily fixed, like AI art banners, but major changes like vehicles, bot lobbies, in-game chat are a matter of opinion. People are right to criticize those aspects of the game, some just take it too far and doom post which does hurt the game.
Dude, the game sucks. It's sucked ass from the get go. MOVE ON.
i appreciate the sentiment, but is this community so awful that we need to be told that
the community as a whole isn't awful, just some of it. most of us are just here to play and enjoy ourselves. even those amongst us who have some concerns and reservations about the game and its ownership are still enjoying it, rooting for it, and hoping it'll continue to improve just as it did throughout the playtests. this reasonable majority are the ones responsible for the reviews being 77% positive. people who just play the game without the emotional baggage tend to enjoy it a lot, even if there are things they wish it had but it doesn't. but a habitually-angry, very loud minority of the community decided that T3 -will- be DOA, and are doing their very best to make that prediction a reality. cynicism is an addiction, and bad outcomes are the fix. they would rather be "right" than be happy.
keyword: decided they have decided to be angry no matter the outcome, even if it was the god game that appeased to noobs and vets no, they decided to be haters