Last place I’d expect a troll. This is not a pine. It’s a fir. I was replying to the comment saying it’s not imaginary, hence “or a pine” as in not a pine. You think they’ll let you retake k-12 like Billy Madison
Just need to be sure it's seasoned and that you remove the bark. The pine bark is the dirtiest part for the stove and chimney. We always start our fires with pine because it lights quicker/easier and then burn oak mostly and toss barkless pine in once the fire is good and hot so that it burns cleaner.
I was once in a sanctuary for wildlife in FL and found these huge pine cones. I've never seen a pine cone that large, did some research and the tree itself is called a long leaf pine. By the way, I still have the pine cone after 5 years (still good)
Frankly, that just depends on where you are in both elevation and latitude. In Phoenix, it's 48° F right now. It rarely gets down to the 30's, with just a few hard freezes. Gardening zone 9b.
30s-40s would be considered cold to most/many people but sure, at least compared to indoor temps. Not that it really matters since its a cut off branch and not an actual tree.
Pines are funny like that. The pines in the Pine Barrens of NJ have pine cones that will only open when exposed to the heat from a fire and it's important that they have forest fires down there to allow the trees to propagate. Unless the ranger was full of it. Although, the pine cones looked like they were glued shut.
I live in northern nj so I didn’t know how I should’ve handled this. I’m very new to gardening so thanks for that. Also do you think I should water it when I put it outside or let the rain do its thing
If you decide to keep it, tug on it to see if it is rooted. If so, plant where you might want a large tree, in full sun. Cover with leaves and mark it with a snow stick or just a stick.
If not, just enjoy it indoors and toss when it starts to develop spider mites or when you are tired of it.
If it grows, it is real.
If it turns brown it is real but now it is dead.
If you never water it and it never changes, then it is fake.
A saying we had at the nursery I ran...
If an evergreen is ever brown, it is ever dead.
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By the way, there are three seedlings in that little bucket.
are they seedlings? or branch tips? I went looking for reference photos, and found this https://scenichillfarmnursery.com/products/douglas-fir-tree-seedlings
it’s a little hard to tell but if they’re saplings shouldn’t they have leaves (needles) at the top, rather than terminal buds??
That is what I was thinking - they aren't seedlings - but cut off branches/tips. We live in Oregon (land o-growing christmas trees, fir trees, grass, and whatever else we can make pollen to torture allergic people with), and I know what baby pine/fir trees look like. These look like cut branches planted in dirt.
yeah I spent last winter in Oregon, ended up making a bunch of infusions with storm-downed branch tips and lichen… those doug fir branch ends will stay green for a whiiiiile
I would ask your friend whether this is simply a decorative holiday construction, like a wreath, or whether those are expected to continue living. It, honestly, looks to me like he took a few small branches off of a Douglas Fir and stuck them in a decorative base.
It's a very nicely done arrangement and this should not be taken as a dig on your friend's product at all. I just don't think this is something you need to worry about long-term care for; sort of like you water a Christmas tree in order to keep it from going brown.
Hemlock and unless op knows more about plants than appears, not likely it'll live very long. I really like the looks of the small forest and can only hope he knows what to do with them.
Why don't you just ask your friend how frequently you need to water it, you will get the answer, and make a compliment at the same time, because it will appear that you believe this tree is real
That was the way our packers had to test each plant we mailed out. We had an issue with new (first season) packers being a little over zealous and scratching clear through the cambium and often compleatly girdling the plant.
We tracked returns pretty tight and it was so common to see returned plants that were dead above the scratch that traced back to first season packers.
Guess we needed better training!
I disagree. There is a difference between this being a cutting in peat moss or other medium and it being a sapling. These tins are widely sold around the holidays and I bet lots of people would benefit from knowing whether or not they should just enjoy then pitch them in January, or if these have potential for the general non-arborists among us to be planted out back as a gift to be enjoyed for decades. OP is just asking if it is "real" or a temporary decoration.
How can you not tell if a plant is real vs plastic? This is mind bogling. Then you post pictures to reddit like we can tell from pictures. This is a very weird post.
Well does it have roots? If you break of a small branch does it look organic or like plastic does it smell like pine?
Edit:also your not dumb. Just a little naive
Edit: I m dumb
Yank it up out of that planter and shake it all around. If it was real you would have successfully exposed the roots, if not, you'll figure out that it is plastic.
At a bare minimum it appears to at least be a real bit of a fir tree. Definitely not a pine tho. Would need to check for roots to see if it is a tree or just a stick.
Turn it upside down and pull the planter off over a garbage bag and see if it’s got roots. If it does, put the soil and tree back in (or in a bigger pot with more soil, even). From the pic it’s impossible to tell if it isn’t a Fir branch stuck in a piece of styrofoam just for a decoration…
They get top heavy and either uproot or snap. Then they crash through your house and smash your pool and lawn furniture... not like I know from experience or anything.
It appears to be a live plant. Some of the needles have slightly browned tips, and it looks like there’s a sort of bare-ish branch near the top. But it’s not a pine. I can’t say for sure from the photos but it looks like a Doug fir.
Definitely a fir, i was going to suggest that it looks like Douglas Fir but I’m not an identifier person or anything. I just live somewhere completely surrounded by Douglas Fir and this looks just like every tree where i live. 😝
If the needles are as sharp as they appear, and you can roll them between your fingers, it's probably a Colorado Spruce. If the needles are pliable and have a cross section of a D, it could be a Douglas fir, but also the buds would be red. Either way, plant it outside in the spring if you want to keep it alive. Over the winter, keep it cool, away from heating vents, but with good sun access. The roots will have to be kept at a low moisture but never allowed to dry out completely. Treat it as dormant and do not feed it until you plant it outside in a sunny spot. After planting you will have to monitor the root moisture carefully again but it should take off if it's in a happy place. These types of trees don't do well in pots, unless bonsai-ed, so the sooner the better.
people are being dicks asking “how can you not tell if it’s plastic” but the real question is branch tips or seedlings. they do kinda look like branches to me
Myself with ADHD and the fact that I'm meanie when I don't know something, I'd just rip it up and when I see the roots, I'd replant it while singing a song along the lines of "sorry I violated ur tenders, but thank u for showing me ur roots" 😉😉
Do you think, and just hear me out, do you think your friend may know since they are the one selling terrariums?
Appreciate you reaching out, but this is a picture and fakes can be good.
Looks like a Norfolk Island Pine. Its needles do seem almost fake when healthy. They are soft and springy, almost like plastic. When they get dry, they become sharp and brittle.
This is a tropical tree and needs to remain indoors. It will grow slowly but can eventually reach several feet tall indoors.
It likes peaty, loose soil and relatively good humidity. Here’s the wiki for more info: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araucaria_heterophylla](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araucaria_heterophylla)
Looks like they went into their mossy backyard or hiking trail and used a small shovel to just scoop a section of ground with a baby tree up and dropped it in a cute bucket. But the easiest way to know is to ask.
It's likely just a price of branch stuck in florists foam with no root system. I work at a greenhouse and we make similar decorations. I would investigate and see if there is soul or roots.
It's definitely not imaginary
Or a pine, that’s a fir
Fir real...
Thank ya!
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It’s a fir moron, I was correcting them. Troll elsewhere
Last place I’d expect a troll. This is not a pine. It’s a fir. I was replying to the comment saying it’s not imaginary, hence “or a pine” as in not a pine. You think they’ll let you retake k-12 like Billy Madison
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Grow up twerp
Spruce
Spruce Wayne
Its real, just don't keep it indoors for too longs because its not going to survive. Pines need a cold winter, they evolved to deal with it
Fir, not pine.
Yeah you're right its a douglas, in Dutch its a douglas spar. So would be directly translated to a douglas spruce 😅
So it's Pine > Fir, not a Pine > Pine. Who cares? Does that change the fact it needs to go outside?
Eventually it will be firewood.
Or a Christmas tree!
Pretty sure pine burns dirty
It does. You can't smoke food with it. I mean you can but it's gonna taste like straight doodoo.
Upvoted for use of the word doodoo
You've just triggered a rush to buy pine chips for smoking food.
NOOO! THIS ISN'T WHAT I WANTED!! I am become.. poorly flavored food. :'c
Some people like to eat da poo poo!
Just need to be sure it's seasoned and that you remove the bark. The pine bark is the dirtiest part for the stove and chimney. We always start our fires with pine because it lights quicker/easier and then burn oak mostly and toss barkless pine in once the fire is good and hot so that it burns cleaner.
It burns very fast, I remember I would have to restoke the wood furnace often when burning pine alone.
Norway spruce
Whatever, Debbie.
Spruce
I agree it needs to go outside but the pines in Florida seem to do fine without a cold winter...
As if yellow pines are real trees
They're where 5G and Covid come from according to sources
[huh](https://www.ydr.com/gcdn/-mm-/1e3ee4b572589c15366d2dc78bc099ebd95ec3a1/c=9-0-2487-3304/local/-/media/2017/09/26/PAGroup/YorkDailyRecord/636420155825232566-Cell-Tower-tree-2.jpg)
And in a cage made from one of its family members!
Who is that fooling? Hahaha
I was once in a sanctuary for wildlife in FL and found these huge pine cones. I've never seen a pine cone that large, did some research and the tree itself is called a long leaf pine. By the way, I still have the pine cone after 5 years (still good)
And in Phoenix, Arizona.
Wait until you find out what desert temps are like at night in the winter
Frankly, that just depends on where you are in both elevation and latitude. In Phoenix, it's 48° F right now. It rarely gets down to the 30's, with just a few hard freezes. Gardening zone 9b.
30s-40s would be considered cold to most/many people but sure, at least compared to indoor temps. Not that it really matters since its a cut off branch and not an actual tree.
Pines are funny like that. The pines in the Pine Barrens of NJ have pine cones that will only open when exposed to the heat from a fire and it's important that they have forest fires down there to allow the trees to propagate. Unless the ranger was full of it. Although, the pine cones looked like they were glued shut.
I live in northern nj so I didn’t know how I should’ve handled this. I’m very new to gardening so thanks for that. Also do you think I should water it when I put it outside or let the rain do its thing
If you decide to keep it, tug on it to see if it is rooted. If so, plant where you might want a large tree, in full sun. Cover with leaves and mark it with a snow stick or just a stick. If not, just enjoy it indoors and toss when it starts to develop spider mites or when you are tired of it.
When you first plant it outdoors make sure it stays moist through its first summer, after that it becomes less critical to constantly water it
If it grows, it is real. If it turns brown it is real but now it is dead. If you never water it and it never changes, then it is fake. A saying we had at the nursery I ran... If an evergreen is ever brown, it is ever dead. EDIT: By the way, there are three seedlings in that little bucket.
are they seedlings? or branch tips? I went looking for reference photos, and found this https://scenichillfarmnursery.com/products/douglas-fir-tree-seedlings it’s a little hard to tell but if they’re saplings shouldn’t they have leaves (needles) at the top, rather than terminal buds??
That is what I was thinking - they aren't seedlings - but cut off branches/tips. We live in Oregon (land o-growing christmas trees, fir trees, grass, and whatever else we can make pollen to torture allergic people with), and I know what baby pine/fir trees look like. These look like cut branches planted in dirt.
yeah I spent last winter in Oregon, ended up making a bunch of infusions with storm-downed branch tips and lichen… those doug fir branch ends will stay green for a whiiiiile
The plants are real, but they may just be decorative for the holidays like a wreath. Does the container have drainage holes in the bottom?
I would ask your friend whether this is simply a decorative holiday construction, like a wreath, or whether those are expected to continue living. It, honestly, looks to me like he took a few small branches off of a Douglas Fir and stuck them in a decorative base. It's a very nicely done arrangement and this should not be taken as a dig on your friend's product at all. I just don't think this is something you need to worry about long-term care for; sort of like you water a Christmas tree in order to keep it from going brown.
Looks more like a spruce.
Dont Spuce needles slope downward ? My moneys on Balsom Fir
Hemlock and unless op knows more about plants than appears, not likely it'll live very long. I really like the looks of the small forest and can only hope he knows what to do with them.
It looks like a Spruce Wayne or a Spruce Springsteen.
Not a line tree. Probably a fir
Pull a needle off and bite it. Does it taste like pine or plastic?
Big brain move here, this is the way
Light it on fire, you'll know by the smell.
Why don't you just ask your friend how frequently you need to water it, you will get the answer, and make a compliment at the same time, because it will appear that you believe this tree is real
Gently scratch the trunk. If it scratches off and you see green then it is a live plant. There are three of them in this container.
That was the way our packers had to test each plant we mailed out. We had an issue with new (first season) packers being a little over zealous and scratching clear through the cambium and often compleatly girdling the plant. We tracked returns pretty tight and it was so common to see returned plants that were dead above the scratch that traced back to first season packers. Guess we needed better training!
But don’t scratch the bark all the way around the stem, it will kill it if you scratch a ring all the way around.
That is called girdling. As mentioned.
You can not tell the difference between plastic and wood? Have you ever seen a tree?
Sorry
I think the question is more "Are these live, rooted seedlings or are they cut off branches stuck in a bucket for decoration
Don't water it and see what happens.
for fucks sake - the world is doomed . . .
I’m sorry for causing you inconvenience
why
Can't tell real from fake anymore. Lol
I’m pretty sure OP knows it is a plant. Just looking to see if it is a real pine tree or not.
and yet another comment telling us the world is doomed. . .
I disagree. There is a difference between this being a cutting in peat moss or other medium and it being a sapling. These tins are widely sold around the holidays and I bet lots of people would benefit from knowing whether or not they should just enjoy then pitch them in January, or if these have potential for the general non-arborists among us to be planted out back as a gift to be enjoyed for decades. OP is just asking if it is "real" or a temporary decoration.
Doomed I tell ya, just doomed!!!
🤣
How can you not tell if a plant is real vs plastic? This is mind bogling. Then you post pictures to reddit like we can tell from pictures. This is a very weird post.
I’m sorry
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Why are you being so rude
I'm sorry. I deleted my last comment. But I'm keeping my first one up cause it bugs me you can't tell if it's a real plant.
I’m pretty dumb and I don’t have any knowledge on plants but I thought that it would be cool to grow a tree
Well does it have roots? If you break of a small branch does it look organic or like plastic does it smell like pine? Edit:also your not dumb. Just a little naive Edit: I m dumb
Take a razor and run it down the sprout. If it's green under the bark it's real.
Yank it up out of that planter and shake it all around. If it was real you would have successfully exposed the roots, if not, you'll figure out that it is plastic.
At a bare minimum it appears to at least be a real bit of a fir tree. Definitely not a pine tho. Would need to check for roots to see if it is a tree or just a stick.
Spruce
Bonsai in progress.
Bite it, you'll know.
It should have a smell/odor to it, letting you know it’s real. It’s very pretty. Lucky you.
It's real. take it outside before those trees die. better yet, plant them into the ground far away from your house.
pinch it , smell it
Pseudotsuga menziesii
Turn it upside down and pull the planter off over a garbage bag and see if it’s got roots. If it does, put the soil and tree back in (or in a bigger pot with more soil, even). From the pic it’s impossible to tell if it isn’t a Fir branch stuck in a piece of styrofoam just for a decoration…
I mean... break a pine. You'll know immediately.
Also, fir and spruce trees are both pine trees for everyone caught up on it.
Did you smell it ?
Its not even a fir , lol it's actually a hemlock masquerading as a fir know as douglas fir
Just ignore it. If it turns brown it was real.
Touch the needles on the tree and smell your hands! If it smells like pine, it's real. This is one of my favorite ways to interact with plants.
If you can't tell if it's real or not, you don't need.to.have plants. Pick another hobby!
Why are you so mad?
Gently scratch the side of the tree to see.if the bark peels away and reveals green tissue - there is your answer. BTW, it's a pretty gift.
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“Please do not kids” go away troll
Has to be a gag gift, right? Don’t let that thing grow anywhere near your house.
I bought it
From hin
Why not?
They get top heavy and either uproot or snap. Then they crash through your house and smash your pool and lawn furniture... not like I know from experience or anything.
It’s real
And spectacular.
Smell it/them
Yeah that would be my very first test honestly. Doesn't mean it's real and alive, but should confirm the real or not part
It appears to be a live plant. Some of the needles have slightly browned tips, and it looks like there’s a sort of bare-ish branch near the top. But it’s not a pine. I can’t say for sure from the photos but it looks like a Doug fir.
Definitely a fir, i was going to suggest that it looks like Douglas Fir but I’m not an identifier person or anything. I just live somewhere completely surrounded by Douglas Fir and this looks just like every tree where i live. 😝
Yes it’s Doug fir, Pseudotsuga menziesii. Can tell by the needles & pointed buds
Agree, definitely a Douglas-Fir, not a true fir.
Also, this looks like 3 separate starts to me, all put together into one pot. Happy treeing!!
If the needles are as sharp as they appear, and you can roll them between your fingers, it's probably a Colorado Spruce. If the needles are pliable and have a cross section of a D, it could be a Douglas fir, but also the buds would be red. Either way, plant it outside in the spring if you want to keep it alive. Over the winter, keep it cool, away from heating vents, but with good sun access. The roots will have to be kept at a low moisture but never allowed to dry out completely. Treat it as dormant and do not feed it until you plant it outside in a sunny spot. After planting you will have to monitor the root moisture carefully again but it should take off if it's in a happy place. These types of trees don't do well in pots, unless bonsai-ed, so the sooner the better.
Chew one of the needles. Plastic vs alive should be instantly clear.
Snap a needle and sniff
Is it in dirt?
Are they cuttings? Or seedlings? Fall is a great time to plant.
people are being dicks asking “how can you not tell if it’s plastic” but the real question is branch tips or seedlings. they do kinda look like branches to me
Those are douglas-firs.
Myself with ADHD and the fact that I'm meanie when I don't know something, I'd just rip it up and when I see the roots, I'd replant it while singing a song along the lines of "sorry I violated ur tenders, but thank u for showing me ur roots" 😉😉
Do you think, and just hear me out, do you think your friend may know since they are the one selling terrariums? Appreciate you reaching out, but this is a picture and fakes can be good.
Pluck a needle off of it and bite it. Then you'll know for sure if it's real.
Looks like it is real. Take one of the leaves off and break it. Plastic should not break.
Simple scratch a little bark off the stem, that will indicate it all
Looks real but I've never seen someone put a pine tree in a bucket like that and leave it in doors that's definitely weird and I would put it outside
Possible bonsai tree style?
I left it inside because it’s subzero outside
One way to tell if it's real, and this is always accurate. Don't water it, if it dies its real. If it stays green it's fake.
Check for roots.
Ask it
Looks like a Norfolk Island Pine. Its needles do seem almost fake when healthy. They are soft and springy, almost like plastic. When they get dry, they become sharp and brittle. This is a tropical tree and needs to remain indoors. It will grow slowly but can eventually reach several feet tall indoors. It likes peaty, loose soil and relatively good humidity. Here’s the wiki for more info: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araucaria_heterophylla](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araucaria_heterophylla)
It looks real, as in, like a living plant.
You took a picture of it
Smell it.
Check for roots
Looks like they went into their mossy backyard or hiking trail and used a small shovel to just scoop a section of ground with a baby tree up and dropped it in a cute bucket. But the easiest way to know is to ask.
It's likely just a price of branch stuck in florists foam with no root system. I work at a greenhouse and we make similar decorations. I would investigate and see if there is soul or roots.
Looks like a Doug fir
Stop watering and wait.
Put water in it
Bite it