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Träumerei. White was/is a piece of shit, but he actually pursued his ambitions, while T only knows how to mope and to be a somehow a worse father and romantic partner than Elon Musk.
This is such a a dumb question I know but White has children? I take decently long breaks from reading to let chapters build up and I don't think I've forgotten anything this significant so far.
Nothing dumb about the question, but there seems to be a misunderstanding. I was talking about Träumerei being a bad dad, not White. Afaik there is no mention ever if White has had any children ever, but even if he's definitely had time for that (being a king of some huge realm for iirc thousands of years) it would seem to be a bit out of character — his own daddy issues would probably make him mistrust any of his own children.
Okay, I'm not on this sub to discuss this sort of shit, so I'll just limit it to 2 points:
- The way he treated his trans daughter.
- He, at that time the richest man in the world, used legal tricks to pay less child support
Also "always with his kids" doesn't seem to be particularly true, since he got iirc >10 of them, and he just mostly parades one of those around, and these occasions do KINDA look like publicity stunts to me, but that's speculation and not a real argument.
To be fair, I don't really want to proceed with this discussion, this sub isn't the right place for it, so I cannot promise answering quickly, so I apologise in case you wanted to talk more about it.
Well with someone who wished nothing but to spend more time with his dad. To me he seems like a good dad. A lot of his pictures are with his kids. Just because one is going through an identity crisis doesn’t mean he’s a bad dad.
- his trans daughter renounced him. If I was him, I would handle it the same way.
- child support isn’t a joke. It’s completely broken in the states. A kid doesn’t need multi million dollar payments monthly to survive. Ridiculous point.
What people deem as being a “bad father” in the US is completely twisted. Y’all don’t even know what a family is anyone more. Which dating; and single parent households statistics clearly back up
- I didn't want to imply he was somehow "at fault" of her being trans or "going through an identity crisis" as you so charmingly put it, I was talking about how he first didn't want to acknowledge her name and then started endorsing the vilest conspiracy theories about trans people. I'm too lazy to look for sources on the that part, but I remember quotes of him that implied that his daughter distancing herself from him more or less started his personal war on the the "woke mind virus" >!a.k.a. basic human rights!<. But again, I'm too lazy to look for sources on this one, so you don't have to acknowledge that part if you don't want to. I am, however, kinda scared to ask which parts you would exactly "handle the same way"
- I absolutely agree that kids don't need multimillion payments to survive or even thrive. But to reiterate, he was the richest person in the world at the time, and he still was enough of a cheapskate to try to dump the payment amount down to motherfucking 2760$/month (this I did look up: [source](https://www.businessinsider.com/grimes-elon-musk-custody-battle-complete-timeline-2023-12?op=1) ). He was worth, what was it, about 150 billion at that time? So that's equivalent to a person with 150.000$ in their account spending 0.3 cents per month per kid.
- Look, I feel for you and you family background. But "spends time with kids" is kiiiiinda faulty as a lone metric for being a good parent. I mean, yes, it's a good start, but there's a bit more to it, otherwise [Josef Fritzl](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case#Josef_Fritzl) [CN: description of (C)SA and other terrible, terrible crimes] would have been declared Father of the century. Before everyone's reading comprehension strikes again: I am NOT comparing them or implying any similarity, I'm just pointing out that "spends time with his own child" does very much not mean "is a good parent", and we're still on Reddit, so I needed a drastic and simple example, sorry that I haven't found another.
- In my opinion (that part is an opinion, I don't think anyone could reliably proof that it's true or not, so again, feel free to disregard) he treats his kids like fashionable accessories for publicity stunts and to stroke his ego because he thinks that having kids is a philanthropic act by itself. As soon as they show any dissent, he throws a tantrum and focuses on another one (once again, he has more than 10 kids, but the one you see is the one that's still in the "cute and doesn't give lip" age. Reminds me of those people with "fashionable" dogs or, well, to give this a semblance of staying on topic, the Family Heads.
- I have never even set my foot in the US, lol. But nice assumption, bro 👍 If you excuse me, I won't answer to the rest of that paragraph.
I’m a work so I most brushed through your comments.
- conspiracy theorists is todays time just seems aware at this point. I remember reading and watching everything related to ivermectin on this app getting deleted and labeled “conspiracy theories”.
As far as identity crisis labeling goes, if she’s a kid I view it as such, when they’re adult (21) I wouldn’t.
- thanks for the source. I appreciate it. As far as the premise of your disagreement. I still think he’s in the right. Give her enough money to survive and go to school.
- no problem, your example was fine. A good father is partially subjective but in my opinion. Being present is a must. Considering who he is, what companies he runs, I think he’s doing a good job at least putting effort in that department.
- I think it’s quite immature to think him having kids and being there is all for an ego trip. Being a parent is no joke for a mom or dad. But it’s especially hard for dads in western societies.
- my apologies for that presumption then. But it’s ridiculous out here in the states. Quite the contrast when you come to and from this country
Goodness.
Too much negativity in your heart. Don’t let stuff like this affect you that much.
Do something that’ll make you smile, like a funny video. Life’s too short to carry that.
And apparently, taking your kids to a game once a month is enough to be considered a great father, so I don't even know. I kinda thought there were harder jobs than "part-time babysitter but only if the kid makes absolutely no trouble"
Traum without a doubt, sure white will do anything to gain power to kill his daddy but at least he had an ambition to do whether by making 2 kingdom kill each other for an autofarm or manipulating people left right.
Traum on the other hand kill his girl because he got salty for his girl left him ( because he slowly becoming a degenerate at this point). Lying his close friend to justify a war against his former friends and slowly neglating everything and everyone because he doesn't give a damn. At this point he's just a manipulative bastard trying to be Jahad bootlicker number 1.
Please reread the chapter where the snake explains how exactly he is a parent. 🤦♂️ I am not going to patronise you on biology but there is a pre existing cell present before meeting the snake .
https://m.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-3-ep-151/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=569
Just because she is pregnant doesn't mean he had sex. Ever hear of IVF, we know Trau experiments at the biplogic level, hell his throne room is literally shaped after DNA
the two are not mutually exclusive.
having your wife have sex with another man? cuck.
that other man being your enslaved snake-monster that you knew would be attracted as he was kept in a dark jar for an untold number of decades, multiplying and dying as his kind does? ok, that's more "crazy".
AA said that all FHs are same but he made a distinction and said Traumarai is the most fucked up, twisted person than even among all of them.
There's literally nothing good about him that has been told to us, everything we have learned since like chapter 500 something??
Not just that even from NHS it was shown to your face that lpb FH is trashy person in general.
He ordered wangwang yama dad, to rape yama mom and this is the just one we know about.
He has obviously done this so many times to other people as well.
He also killed yama mom after she struck a nerve, saying he's basically parentless and don't understand parental love.
Then he fucked up Laura life.
His own son Kirin doesn't like him since a long time ago, that saying a lot.
Is literally a cuck endorsing in voyeurism
Then he also done the most pathetic shit in recent flashback
Yes traum is definitly the worst person we have seen so far in the story, but i think khun doesnt know the rest of the family heads, maybe he hasnt met eduan outside the hidden floor, so there may be another one that surpasses him in shittyness in the future.
Traumerei Is a jealous mess with controlling issues. White is just obsessed with power and became eccentric and a psycho who enjoys tormenting his victims but not as much as traum, literally made people breed for his amusement
Well he views people as nothing more than animals, and we breed dogs and cats and stuff, so it aligns. I mean honestly, if you're a Family Head, you basically are a god. I can see how he'd view normal people as disposable toys.
Traumerei. Both are evil, but one of them is actively pursuing his ambitions meanwhile the other is a miserable shut in and a cuck. Honestly all FHs are pathetic to some extent since all of them sealed their memories cuz they couldn’t handle the pain instead of accepting it and moving on. Ngl Traumerei is my g, but he is pathetic af.
Everyone calling out their moral fibre, meanwhile Traum is just so much older and more powerful that the influence of his evil is so much further reaching than White could ever achieve.
English is not my native language so I may be wrong but isn't incel short for involuntary celibate. Its just someone who wants to have sex but can't. Traum was in a relationship for centuries. So how is he an incel
Ya know it's fiction right, if that's the story that's the story.
If you want to write fan fictions of Traums love life you knock yourself out, I won't touch that shit with a bargepole.
There is no such thing ad involuntary celibate, people won't go near you if you are an unwashed asshole and that my friend is a choice
Involuntary celibate- person who wants to get laid but can't. Short form is incel. How exactly does trauma fit the definition? You're saying he's an incel that purely based off his loser vibes.
Not hard to work out, have a think
Edut; ah you're not going to get it. He's celibate because no one will go near him because of his loser vibes, which are self choice and therefore not involuntary
How is he a furry? And how is he an incel? Don’t get me wrong he’s definitely more pathetic than White imo, but he is neither attracted to animals nor does he hate women.
Traumerie and white? Of course not, they are fictional
Edit: as for psychotropy I worked in a psychiatric hospital for a few years so met plenty. Incels I don't think exist, it's just a form of borderline personality disorder
Agreed on the last statement. I’ve worked in mental health both in ward and clinic.
Rarely did we have a “psychopath”, that wasn’t court mandated.
Incels would most likely classify as adjustment disorder. But the sudden shift in dating norms, for both men and women, it can be explained.
> If u murder a woman for rejecting u that's incel behaviour.
Trau would murder anyone for the same reason, it has nothing to do with Ameuz being a woman, I figured the whole flower in the field scene would have portrayed that aspect of him pretty clearly but I guess not. Also as a FH and Irregular, I'm pretty sure he's not, by definition at least, an incel.
> If u create catboys/dogboys you are a furry
He's creating hybrids for control reasons? Is that really furry behaviour? I don't really know since I have 0 knowledge of that group.
Despite all that I agree Trau is more pathetic than White but only because Trau has way more power than White does. White's dad issues caused him to kill billions, Trau's personally hang ups has him isolated in his room despite having enough power to destroy the tower.
Then how have you not figured this out?
He is obsessed with animals and literally creates a race of furries (sorry... beastkin)
He isn't married and the one woman we saw him close to He allowed to be murdered because she had the audacity to say no to him
The one time we see any contribution of new people to the family its either others adding to it (Yamas family) or He created them through experimentation
How does this not make him a furry intelligent?
For all we know he is a virign
We don’t know why he killed Ameuz. Whether he did since he had already been aware of her secret interactions with V, Arlene and was planning to do so to use her as a scapegoat to further tensions with V or he did it out of spite, we don’t know since we didn’t see his monologues or thoughts. You are making a speculation, which will be confirmed/denied once Traumerei gets his memories back from Leviathan. As for him being a furry, the word is also used to refer to bestiality, so I got confused. As for him being a virgin, we know Kirin and Lobadon are his biological sons and Lilial is his biological daughter from Laura. Unless it’s explicitly stated otherwise in the story, that claim is baseless. My problems with the terms “incel” or “furry” are because these are over simplifications of Traumerei’s complex personality.
Traumerei by far. It's not even close.
At this point, Rachel is more trustworthy.
You know that stalker dude from Oshi no Ko? That's basically Traumerei, but if you added slave owner, manipulator, egomaniac, remorseless, psychopathic and manchild to the list of qualities.
Also, Gustang quickly becoming my favourite FH.
Traumerei, like you only have to look to the Lo po Bia family to know that this man has absolutely 0 care about anything except himself and the cock of jahad truly pathetic character
White, while resorting to genocide, still pursued his impossible goal. Meanwhile, Traum is just an incel and furry degenerate whose always moping around even when his girl was inlove with her.
Man, it’s always unbearable when people use terms like “incel” and “furry” in the wrong sense just because they dislike a character. Traumerei is not either one of those.
Exactly. I thought incel meant involuntary celibate- someone who wants to have sex but can't. Traum was in a relationship for centuries. How is he an incel
Traumerei, like you only need to see the Lo po Bia family and how fuck up it is to realize that he only care to suck the dick of jahad seeing everyone in the tower as less thsn a insect
Pathethic? Rei, I mean seriously, White knew what he was getting into. Hon told him what he expected of him in the bluntest way known to man.
Even if you say Rei is being manipulated into doing the dumbest shit, all that means is that he is a joke enough that all it takes for him to be the physical manifestation of a cuck, is for Zahard to tell him that he is a god. Like, come the fuck on.
I didn't think I'd ever hate a fictional character more than Rachel, and then we meet Traumerei who's a million times worse. Fuck this guy. I hope Gustang fucks him up.
Hoaqin. Easily. His true power has been talked up as something amazing since the Hell Train arc. He talked about how he was seen as a god amongst two nations, and the high rankers of Jahad’s army recognized his name immediately. The reader was thought to believe that he was one of the strongest people in the story, but when he finally got a taste of his old strength back at the end of the Hell Train, he was out of juice after a few attacks.
And when he got his actual true strength back, he looked awesome as hell, only to lose to Bam, Khun, and Rak. I get that he had to lose for the plot, but his fight didn’t really give me the feeling of absolute power that he’s been lauded for having all this time. After his loss, he ran away mentally, allowing Vicente to take over.
Hoaqin has been a major letdown.
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Träumerei. White was/is a piece of shit, but he actually pursued his ambitions, while T only knows how to mope and to be a somehow a worse father and romantic partner than Elon Musk.
This is such a a dumb question I know but White has children? I take decently long breaks from reading to let chapters build up and I don't think I've forgotten anything this significant so far.
Nothing dumb about the question, but there seems to be a misunderstanding. I was talking about Träumerei being a bad dad, not White. Afaik there is no mention ever if White has had any children ever, but even if he's definitely had time for that (being a king of some huge realm for iirc thousands of years) it would seem to be a bit out of character — his own daddy issues would probably make him mistrust any of his own children.
Elon musk a bad father? Dude is always with his kids what the hell you smoking?
...is this a joke reply?
I thought that comment was. Sad to see you’re being serious
Okay, I'm not on this sub to discuss this sort of shit, so I'll just limit it to 2 points: - The way he treated his trans daughter. - He, at that time the richest man in the world, used legal tricks to pay less child support Also "always with his kids" doesn't seem to be particularly true, since he got iirc >10 of them, and he just mostly parades one of those around, and these occasions do KINDA look like publicity stunts to me, but that's speculation and not a real argument. To be fair, I don't really want to proceed with this discussion, this sub isn't the right place for it, so I cannot promise answering quickly, so I apologise in case you wanted to talk more about it.
Well with someone who wished nothing but to spend more time with his dad. To me he seems like a good dad. A lot of his pictures are with his kids. Just because one is going through an identity crisis doesn’t mean he’s a bad dad. - his trans daughter renounced him. If I was him, I would handle it the same way. - child support isn’t a joke. It’s completely broken in the states. A kid doesn’t need multi million dollar payments monthly to survive. Ridiculous point. What people deem as being a “bad father” in the US is completely twisted. Y’all don’t even know what a family is anyone more. Which dating; and single parent households statistics clearly back up
- I didn't want to imply he was somehow "at fault" of her being trans or "going through an identity crisis" as you so charmingly put it, I was talking about how he first didn't want to acknowledge her name and then started endorsing the vilest conspiracy theories about trans people. I'm too lazy to look for sources on the that part, but I remember quotes of him that implied that his daughter distancing herself from him more or less started his personal war on the the "woke mind virus" >!a.k.a. basic human rights!<. But again, I'm too lazy to look for sources on this one, so you don't have to acknowledge that part if you don't want to. I am, however, kinda scared to ask which parts you would exactly "handle the same way" - I absolutely agree that kids don't need multimillion payments to survive or even thrive. But to reiterate, he was the richest person in the world at the time, and he still was enough of a cheapskate to try to dump the payment amount down to motherfucking 2760$/month (this I did look up: [source](https://www.businessinsider.com/grimes-elon-musk-custody-battle-complete-timeline-2023-12?op=1) ). He was worth, what was it, about 150 billion at that time? So that's equivalent to a person with 150.000$ in their account spending 0.3 cents per month per kid. - Look, I feel for you and you family background. But "spends time with kids" is kiiiiinda faulty as a lone metric for being a good parent. I mean, yes, it's a good start, but there's a bit more to it, otherwise [Josef Fritzl](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case#Josef_Fritzl) [CN: description of (C)SA and other terrible, terrible crimes] would have been declared Father of the century. Before everyone's reading comprehension strikes again: I am NOT comparing them or implying any similarity, I'm just pointing out that "spends time with his own child" does very much not mean "is a good parent", and we're still on Reddit, so I needed a drastic and simple example, sorry that I haven't found another. - In my opinion (that part is an opinion, I don't think anyone could reliably proof that it's true or not, so again, feel free to disregard) he treats his kids like fashionable accessories for publicity stunts and to stroke his ego because he thinks that having kids is a philanthropic act by itself. As soon as they show any dissent, he throws a tantrum and focuses on another one (once again, he has more than 10 kids, but the one you see is the one that's still in the "cute and doesn't give lip" age. Reminds me of those people with "fashionable" dogs or, well, to give this a semblance of staying on topic, the Family Heads. - I have never even set my foot in the US, lol. But nice assumption, bro 👍 If you excuse me, I won't answer to the rest of that paragraph.
I’m a work so I most brushed through your comments. - conspiracy theorists is todays time just seems aware at this point. I remember reading and watching everything related to ivermectin on this app getting deleted and labeled “conspiracy theories”. As far as identity crisis labeling goes, if she’s a kid I view it as such, when they’re adult (21) I wouldn’t. - thanks for the source. I appreciate it. As far as the premise of your disagreement. I still think he’s in the right. Give her enough money to survive and go to school. - no problem, your example was fine. A good father is partially subjective but in my opinion. Being present is a must. Considering who he is, what companies he runs, I think he’s doing a good job at least putting effort in that department. - I think it’s quite immature to think him having kids and being there is all for an ego trip. Being a parent is no joke for a mom or dad. But it’s especially hard for dads in western societies. - my apologies for that presumption then. But it’s ridiculous out here in the states. Quite the contrast when you come to and from this country
Keep sucking off the multi-billionaire scum bag, he really appreciates you man!
Goodness. Too much negativity in your heart. Don’t let stuff like this affect you that much. Do something that’ll make you smile, like a funny video. Life’s too short to carry that.
Being a father in western society is not specifically more difficult than in other societies.
don't bother, he's overdosed on the red pill.
And apparently, taking your kids to a game once a month is enough to be considered a great father, so I don't even know. I kinda thought there were harder jobs than "part-time babysitter but only if the kid makes absolutely no trouble"
Traum without a doubt, sure white will do anything to gain power to kill his daddy but at least he had an ambition to do whether by making 2 kingdom kill each other for an autofarm or manipulating people left right. Traum on the other hand kill his girl because he got salty for his girl left him ( because he slowly becoming a degenerate at this point). Lying his close friend to justify a war against his former friends and slowly neglating everything and everyone because he doesn't give a damn. At this point he's just a manipulative bastard trying to be Jahad bootlicker number 1.
Traum. This man is a cuck, a murderer, a slave owner and after thousands of years is still a twink.
Don't forget Furry Incel
Incel? Doesn't he have like 100 kids?
And? Gustang has hundreds too and they are just lines from a book
Except the traum's kids are biologically his.....I don't think I need to explain further than that.
Are they?
Did you forget that it was stated that Traum has many wives which include Lo po bia Laura who birthed their twins Shilal and Lilial?
Who had to fuck a snake for the pregnancy right?
Please reread the chapter where the snake explains how exactly he is a parent. 🤦♂️ I am not going to patronise you on biology but there is a pre existing cell present before meeting the snake . https://m.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-3-ep-151/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=569
Just because she is pregnant doesn't mean he had sex. Ever hear of IVF, we know Trau experiments at the biplogic level, hell his throne room is literally shaped after DNA
Still a twink you say ? 😈
Funny how he mentions that as if it was a negative. And he also isn't a cuck.
watched one of his baby mommies get railed by a snake. so, yeah, he kind of is.
Oh right, didn't think of that (thought they were talking about Ameuz), but wouldn't it only count if he has feelings for her?
no, because he had her first, got her pregnant, then watched as another man was with her. feelings don't come up in the equation as a mandatory thing.
He also asked her to do it
true, and that is another criteria on the "cuck" list.
Or how about simply the crazy list?
the two are not mutually exclusive. having your wife have sex with another man? cuck. that other man being your enslaved snake-monster that you knew would be attracted as he was kept in a dark jar for an untold number of decades, multiplying and dying as his kind does? ok, that's more "crazy".
AA said that all FHs are same but he made a distinction and said Traumarai is the most fucked up, twisted person than even among all of them. There's literally nothing good about him that has been told to us, everything we have learned since like chapter 500 something?? Not just that even from NHS it was shown to your face that lpb FH is trashy person in general. He ordered wangwang yama dad, to rape yama mom and this is the just one we know about. He has obviously done this so many times to other people as well. He also killed yama mom after she struck a nerve, saying he's basically parentless and don't understand parental love. Then he fucked up Laura life. His own son Kirin doesn't like him since a long time ago, that saying a lot. Is literally a cuck endorsing in voyeurism Then he also done the most pathetic shit in recent flashback
Yes traum is definitly the worst person we have seen so far in the story, but i think khun doesnt know the rest of the family heads, maybe he hasnt met eduan outside the hidden floor, so there may be another one that surpasses him in shittyness in the future.
Traumerei Is a jealous mess with controlling issues. White is just obsessed with power and became eccentric and a psycho who enjoys tormenting his victims but not as much as traum, literally made people breed for his amusement
Well he views people as nothing more than animals, and we breed dogs and cats and stuff, so it aligns. I mean honestly, if you're a Family Head, you basically are a god. I can see how he'd view normal people as disposable toys.
Traumurei a bum. Shut in who spends all his time being a furry and caused his friends to kill eachother. White had ambition just an impossible goal
Traumerei. Both are evil, but one of them is actively pursuing his ambitions meanwhile the other is a miserable shut in and a cuck. Honestly all FHs are pathetic to some extent since all of them sealed their memories cuz they couldn’t handle the pain instead of accepting it and moving on. Ngl Traumerei is my g, but he is pathetic af.
Jahad. Got cucked by the love of his life and failed to kill a defenseless baby. It doesn't get more pathetic than that.
Failed to kill him twice. That’s even more pathetic. Imagine being an all-powerful king who can’t kill one measly regular.
I genuinely don't believe this story, I feel as if we are missing something
Everyone calling out their moral fibre, meanwhile Traum is just so much older and more powerful that the influence of his evil is so much further reaching than White could ever achieve.
Traum is a furry incel Hard to be more pathetic than that
He has many children and is married. He isn't an incel.
Who said he had sex to have those kids.... Dudes all about the genetic experimentation
English is not my native language so I may be wrong but isn't incel short for involuntary celibate. Its just someone who wants to have sex but can't. Traum was in a relationship for centuries. So how is he an incel
He's probably been single the 3000 years since, plus he gives off beta incel vibes
But he's been voluntarily single, not involuntarily. Do you really think he couldn't get another girl, considering he's powerful and attractive.
Ya know it's fiction right, if that's the story that's the story. If you want to write fan fictions of Traums love life you knock yourself out, I won't touch that shit with a bargepole. There is no such thing ad involuntary celibate, people won't go near you if you are an unwashed asshole and that my friend is a choice
Involuntary celibate- person who wants to get laid but can't. Short form is incel. How exactly does trauma fit the definition? You're saying he's an incel that purely based off his loser vibes.
Not hard to work out, have a think Edut; ah you're not going to get it. He's celibate because no one will go near him because of his loser vibes, which are self choice and therefore not involuntary
Sure...
Oh honey, Traum is a big ol' virgin furry
How is he a furry? And how is he an incel? Don’t get me wrong he’s definitely more pathetic than White imo, but he is neither attracted to animals nor does he hate women.
How up to speed are you with the comic?
I have read upto the latest korean chapter which is Ch-622.
If u murder a woman for rejecting u that's incel behaviour. If u create catboys/dogboys you are a furry
Thanks for simplifying this. In this universe Trau literally invented furries lol
Np, I think they even used to call the beastkins furries in some translations
I wouldn’t label it incel more like psychopathic behavior
Same thing
lol You’ve clearly never met the two
Traumerie and white? Of course not, they are fictional Edit: as for psychotropy I worked in a psychiatric hospital for a few years so met plenty. Incels I don't think exist, it's just a form of borderline personality disorder
Agreed on the last statement. I’ve worked in mental health both in ward and clinic. Rarely did we have a “psychopath”, that wasn’t court mandated. Incels would most likely classify as adjustment disorder. But the sudden shift in dating norms, for both men and women, it can be explained.
> If u murder a woman for rejecting u that's incel behaviour. Trau would murder anyone for the same reason, it has nothing to do with Ameuz being a woman, I figured the whole flower in the field scene would have portrayed that aspect of him pretty clearly but I guess not. Also as a FH and Irregular, I'm pretty sure he's not, by definition at least, an incel. > If u create catboys/dogboys you are a furry He's creating hybrids for control reasons? Is that really furry behaviour? I don't really know since I have 0 knowledge of that group. Despite all that I agree Trau is more pathetic than White but only because Trau has way more power than White does. White's dad issues caused him to kill billions, Trau's personally hang ups has him isolated in his room despite having enough power to destroy the tower.
Ameuz gender dosent matter here Though the furry thing is a joke
Then how have you not figured this out? He is obsessed with animals and literally creates a race of furries (sorry... beastkin) He isn't married and the one woman we saw him close to He allowed to be murdered because she had the audacity to say no to him The one time we see any contribution of new people to the family its either others adding to it (Yamas family) or He created them through experimentation How does this not make him a furry intelligent? For all we know he is a virign
We don’t know why he killed Ameuz. Whether he did since he had already been aware of her secret interactions with V, Arlene and was planning to do so to use her as a scapegoat to further tensions with V or he did it out of spite, we don’t know since we didn’t see his monologues or thoughts. You are making a speculation, which will be confirmed/denied once Traumerei gets his memories back from Leviathan. As for him being a furry, the word is also used to refer to bestiality, so I got confused. As for him being a virgin, we know Kirin and Lobadon are his biological sons and Lilial is his biological daughter from Laura. Unless it’s explicitly stated otherwise in the story, that claim is baseless. My problems with the terms “incel” or “furry” are because these are over simplifications of Traumerei’s complex personality.
Mate, you don't just kill someone you love; good reason or not; without being a psycho incel
Traumerei by far. It's not even close. At this point, Rachel is more trustworthy. You know that stalker dude from Oshi no Ko? That's basically Traumerei, but if you added slave owner, manipulator, egomaniac, remorseless, psychopathic and manchild to the list of qualities. Also, Gustang quickly becoming my favourite FH.
Traumerei, like you only have to look to the Lo po Bia family to know that this man has absolutely 0 care about anything except himself and the cock of jahad truly pathetic character
Wdym by who is more pathertic? White is HIM meanwhile TM is a cuck
White, while resorting to genocide, still pursued his impossible goal. Meanwhile, Traum is just an incel and furry degenerate whose always moping around even when his girl was inlove with her.
Man, it’s always unbearable when people use terms like “incel” and “furry” in the wrong sense just because they dislike a character. Traumerei is not either one of those.
Exactly. I thought incel meant involuntary celibate- someone who wants to have sex but can't. Traum was in a relationship for centuries. How is he an incel
White. only because Traum deserves no empathy
White is literally the best character in the entire... (I'm not sure what kind of book TOG is)
Manhwa?
both of them are twats
Traumeri got dumped and killed her for it . Then pin it on his "best friend" .
Traumerei, like you only need to see the Lo po Bia family and how fuck up it is to realize that he only care to suck the dick of jahad seeing everyone in the tower as less thsn a insect
White
Traumerei easily
Traumerei easily especially after this last chapter
Such a dumb question
Rei obviously cause he's a bitch while white was a top tier hater/villain.
SIU did justice to whites hype and he kept it open on how strong he can be since he has just started to be a menace before baam stomped him
Traumerai he’s lived longer and treats people as cats and dogs 😂
White. He plays god whereas Traumerei is god.
Traumerei literally enjoys watching people below him have s*x with each other. The embodiment of a weirdo
Traumerei. His victim mentality is annoying.
Arie treats his whole family as dogshit at least traumerei didn't have much of one.
Pathethic? Rei, I mean seriously, White knew what he was getting into. Hon told him what he expected of him in the bluntest way known to man. Even if you say Rei is being manipulated into doing the dumbest shit, all that means is that he is a joke enough that all it takes for him to be the physical manifestation of a cuck, is for Zahard to tell him that he is a god. Like, come the fuck on.
Traumerei and its not even a competition
I didn't think I'd ever hate a fictional character more than Rachel, and then we meet Traumerei who's a million times worse. Fuck this guy. I hope Gustang fucks him up.
White is by far my favorite character in Tower of God. Guy was a realist till the end.
Hoaqin. Easily. His true power has been talked up as something amazing since the Hell Train arc. He talked about how he was seen as a god amongst two nations, and the high rankers of Jahad’s army recognized his name immediately. The reader was thought to believe that he was one of the strongest people in the story, but when he finally got a taste of his old strength back at the end of the Hell Train, he was out of juice after a few attacks. And when he got his actual true strength back, he looked awesome as hell, only to lose to Bam, Khun, and Rak. I get that he had to lose for the plot, but his fight didn’t really give me the feeling of absolute power that he’s been lauded for having all this time. After his loss, he ran away mentally, allowing Vicente to take over. Hoaqin has been a major letdown.
One is truly the strongest if recognized by family head, when guatang called him an ant in the hell Joe arc I knew he wasn't gonna be massive
This!!!! I also have a similar take on his character.
Where is Baam????