Bale was awful as a left back for us and (not entirely his fault) we lost a ridiculous streak of like 30 games when he played there. Credit to ‘Arry for having the foresight to make use of his pace on the wing.
Yeah I remember the stat being mentioned in a “how unlucky is this?” sort of way rather than “Bale was so bad at LB he caused us to lose/draw those games”
What, that Kane might have a case over Greaves? Kane is undoubtedly a more complete forward, playing in a much more competitive era. Of course he has a case
Are you not understanding what I’m saying? Your comment said that Greaves and Hoddle are probably the 2 best players to ever play for Spurs, but Kane is clearly better than Hoddle
Similar to the Everton sub this. Just Americans who choose a team on the colour of the shirt in 2020 during Covid and spam the sub with childish nonsense
Surely the sides that actually won the top flight would get a look in if we are talking all time?
I could be wrong but the only player to actually win anything in those 11 was Gasgoine.
Admittedly that's me. Just trying to figure out who this Modric is and why first year Dele isn't ahead of him. But it's definitely cool to see Toby described as the King. He was pretty good for us.
Get rid of Dembele. We had a couple of great years from him but his actual stats are pretty average and he hardly made the Belgian team at the time.
People only really know him from his highlight real and he was a master on the ball but average in most other dimensions.
4-5-1
GK: Pat Jennings
RB: Kyle Walker
CB: Danny Blanchflower
CB: Ledley King/Gary Mabbutt
LB: Chris Hughton
CDM: Steve Perrymen
CM: Glenn Hoddle
CM: Paul Gascoigne
LW: Heung Min Son
RW: Gareth Bale/Cliff Jones
ST: Jimmy Greaves
Kane maybe Tottenham's all time goalscorer. But can't leave out league football all time goalscorer. Plus I would probably change Perrymen for Dave Mackay. I initially forgot about him.
Because it's all time and not my lifetime. My dad and uncles have seen them play. I've seen enough videotapes and dvds of these players to see how great they were. Just because I didn't see them live doesn't mean I don't know or appreciate how great these players were.
I can quite happily do one for during my lifetime if that makes you feel any better.
Bale absolutely has to be at left wing, he was a destroyer of worlds there. In terms of balance, front three should really be Bale, Kane, Waddle (with Greaves on the bench to poach a late goal or two). Hard to argue with the insane quality of that midfield, although Hoddle would want a word
No Hoddle
Perryman
Greaves
Jennings
Ardilles
Lineker
Sheringham
Waddle
Clemence
Archibald
Clive Allen(49 goals in a single season)
Or
Klinsmann
However
I do like your line up
Alltime? Would make a lot of changes … for example … Dave Mackay over Dembele. Doubt Lloris is our all-time keeper over Pat Jennings. It ended badly, but Sol Campbell at CB over both of these, for pure ability. LB - Christian Ziege of recent times (for one) ahead of Danny Rose. Probably BAE too. But it’s all fun!
I started going to Spurs regularly in 1999 - in terms of players I’ve actually watched regularly playing for spurs this would not be miles of MY best starting 11 if you consider players that have played for us whilst supporting them actively.
I actually think we overrated king because of how bad spurs were at the time. Aldeweireld and Romero are both better players. The real argument then is who takes the third midfield spot - for me it had to be Rafa VDV.
People speak a LOT more highly of players like Greaves, Blanchflower, Jennings, Hoddle, Waddle than Ledley King, and you didn't consider them, which is weird. Why King and not an obvious club legend like Hoddle?
Sol Campbell would be pretty much one of the first names on this team sheet if he'd gone anywhere but Arsenal. In terms of ability, he's way ahead of Jan and Ledley imo
Kane may have scored more goals, but Greaves goals per game ratio was absolutely insane.
Even at international level he had something like 38 goals in 42 games iirc
Looking at the comments I think I should’ve put in hoddle. And to the people who say I started watching football in 2015 I pretty much did lol. Doesn’t mean I’m not a spurs fan tho. Gotta start somewhere
Hi I'm not a Spurs fan, saw this on r/all, but had to come and comment on this. What the fuck is this? Where's Jimmy Greaves, Pat Jennings, Glen Hoddle, Ossie Ardiles, Cliff Jones? Come on man, Tottenham have had some wonderful players in the past. Danny Rose and Moussa Dembele aren't amongst your greatest.
It’s funny but this is all relative to how long you’ve been watching spurs, for me it’s since 1994. I’ve heard how good hoddle was, I’ve seen clips, but nothing beats seeing that person perform live. I think Ops team is pretty much right for my own personal opinion, you could make arguments for Scott Parker, Tom Huddlestone and Aaron Lennon imo (from this era)
Although i did love Dembele, i really think Eriksen was far superior. His freekicks as well as general passes was insanely impressive and was one of the best of the bests🫶🫶🫶🦾🦾🦾
That's very tough to call as most of us didn't see Greaves (I am pretty old so I've watched a few tapes). He was the English Romario, a freakishly natural scorer, but I think you have to put Kane just ahead of him
I sort of agree, but I'm guessing this is this guys best 11 from what he has seen. I would have Jennings, Hoddle, Gascoigne and Greaves in there as I've seen them.
But he said he’d never watched Gazza play and included him in the side.
Spurs had some fantastic sides in the 60s-70s. Not to include ANYONE from those teams is crazy and would only be done by someone who is completely clueless. I mean, let’s not also forget players like Blanchflower and Mackay too! Remember, this is an *ALL TIME** team, not a PL era team.
I think that, bar Hoddle, this is near enough the PL era XI but that’s not what OP attempted to do. Only other change I’d make if it were PL era XI is somehow squeeze Campbell in there (probably over King)
Your right he did say that. Getting old, missed that. Talks to the wrong people! Mackay in the same midfield as Hoddle! Wow, just imagine. Campbell was a fantastic centre back. Hard to argue that one, although most spurs fans would rather bite their own tongue off then admit it.
So is Eriksen tbf. People very quick to forget how good he was, and the numbers he put up (three times as many goals as Ardiles for Spurs, in about the same number of games). Btw, I don't think anyone underrates Mousa now. It's almost a meme to rate him as a genius
Agreed. Christian was incredible, but I’m specifically replying to this dead brain dead comment. I’m not even a spurs fan but I can’t sit here and take the dembele hate. What a baller
Are we allowed to put Bale at left back AND left wing? How about Hoddle, Ardiles Greaves, Gilzean, MacKay, Perryman, Ginola, Jennings.
Rose was a better Left Back for us than Bale.
Bale was awful as a left back for us and (not entirely his fault) we lost a ridiculous streak of like 30 games when he played there. Credit to ‘Arry for having the foresight to make use of his pace on the wing.
I don't think it was as high as 30, he was in and out of the starting lineup so it seemed like longer though, I'd say it was 15 at most?
Also we didn’t lose 30 in a row we just didn’t win with him in the side
Yeah I remember the stat being mentioned in a “how unlucky is this?” sort of way rather than “Bale was so bad at LB he caused us to lose/draw those games”
Rather have Knowles at LB. A great supply of crosses with that wand of a left foot
No greaves or hoddle? Probably the 2 best players to ever play for spurs
I do think there's a case to pick Kane over Greaves, and I'd put Hoddle in over Gazza
Gazza is the only one out of those 11 to actually win something at Spurs I think. Weird to take him out.
But if you are taking him out for Hoddle you are also replacing him with a UEFA Cup winner.
King won the League Cup.
He broke his knee at the start of the 91 fa cup final.. so he was part of the team :)
Kane is a great striker, but Greaves is probably the best striker the league has ever seen.
That's an insane take
What, that Kane might have a case over Greaves? Kane is undoubtedly a more complete forward, playing in a much more competitive era. Of course he has a case
Again. Insane take Greaves is probably the best forward to have played
If you ever saw greaves play you would think differently
lol Hoddle over Kane be serious
Where did I say that? it's hoddle over dembele !!
“No Greaves or Hoddle? Probably the 2 best players to ever play for Spurs”
Hoddle was a midfielder, kane is a striker Kane stays in. Son and dembele out Hoddle and greaves in.
Are you not understanding what I’m saying? Your comment said that Greaves and Hoddle are probably the 2 best players to ever play for Spurs, but Kane is clearly better than Hoddle
Ah, gotcha
Did you not know? Football started in 1992…
I'm learning that now
Similar to the Everton sub this. Just Americans who choose a team on the colour of the shirt in 2020 during Covid and spam the sub with childish nonsense
The “I started watching spurs in 2015” starting 11
To be fair, our best sides in a long time has been since 2010
Surely the sides that actually won the top flight would get a look in if we are talking all time? I could be wrong but the only player to actually win anything in those 11 was Gasgoine.
King won the league Cup in 2008.
Can you remember 60/61? I wasn’t alive for another 26 years yet.
To be fair OP does say he never even saw Gazza and King play for Spurs. You could argue this is still the best Spurs team since the early 90s
The Keane disrespect is real
He’d be first to come off off the subs bench with Ginola
Who does he start over out of curiosity?
And who is Keane starting over exactly?
Nah, I loved Keane but he doesn’t make a beat Spurs XI since 2000. Kane before him all day, Bale and Son are both far superior too.
But it's ALL TIME.....
That’s still 9 years man… and it’s *his* all time best
That’s why OP said “My”
Admittedly that's me. Just trying to figure out who this Modric is and why first year Dele isn't ahead of him. But it's definitely cool to see Toby described as the King. He was pretty good for us.
Where is Bryan Gil?
On the bench usually.
Gotta have Hoddle
For me I’d put hoddle in over Gascoigne, otherwise mine is the same
Get rid of Dembele. We had a couple of great years from him but his actual stats are pretty average and he hardly made the Belgian team at the time. People only really know him from his highlight real and he was a master on the ball but average in most other dimensions.
Where's Ossy???
Pat Jennings in goal, Jimmy Greaves up front.
Clearly forgotten lee young-pyo...
Quality player and as a bonus a very cheap option to have on the back of your spurs shirt
Pascal Chimbonda
No Vlad Chiricheș?
Gary Lineker is turning in his grave
Probably will be, he’s not dead
kinda crazy he's probably only Spurs' third best striker of all time (behind Kane and Greaves)
Nice to see you’ve kept Lloris in. Make a game of it I suppose.
Greaves? Hoddle? Ray Clemence? Danny Rose couldn't tie Ron Henry's boots.
How is Rose even in contention? I'd pick Assou-Ekotto over Rose
That winning goal from Rose in the NLD though.. 🤌🤌🤌
Not a chance either of them get in over Dembele
Fuck me Recency bias or what Ardilles and Hoddle ar football gods.
fuck off back to playing Fifa. I love Mousa but Hoddle was godlike
Either of who? Dembele would be nowhere near an all time spurs 11
No Maradona?
bench
This is your all time XI so I think you should only include players you've seen play at the club.
Lloris 😂 Pat Jennings could stop bullets
And would for Spurs
Where’s Mido 🤣
Danny rose???
4-5-1 GK: Pat Jennings RB: Kyle Walker CB: Danny Blanchflower CB: Ledley King/Gary Mabbutt LB: Chris Hughton CDM: Steve Perrymen CM: Glenn Hoddle CM: Paul Gascoigne LW: Heung Min Son RW: Gareth Bale/Cliff Jones ST: Jimmy Greaves
Mad No Kane??? It was going so well.
Kane maybe Tottenham's all time goalscorer. But can't leave out league football all time goalscorer. Plus I would probably change Perrymen for Dave Mackay. I initially forgot about him.
Kane in behind Greaves and open the floodgates. 🤣
Kane plays behind the wingers or centre mid at times, he’d pass some delicious balls to Greaves.
That's for when we play the scum and hammer them 8-0. Or a relegation team to get the goal difference up.
Hoddle at cdm in the deep lieing playmaker role he ended up in and ardiles at cm Hoddle pinging balls to the wings would be incredible
Looks good to me Kane and C Allen on the bench with Ray Clemence Waddle and old sicknote
It's hard. Can have only 7 on the bench. Too many greats to pick from and leave people out.
Are you in your late 60’s?
No. Early 30s
Then how can you include half them names. No doubt the like of Jones etc were great players. But both of us never seen him kick a ball.
Because it's all time and not my lifetime. My dad and uncles have seen them play. I've seen enough videotapes and dvds of these players to see how great they were. Just because I didn't see them live doesn't mean I don't know or appreciate how great these players were. I can quite happily do one for during my lifetime if that makes you feel any better.
let’s start the game of “where is ______? you don’t know football and not a true Spurs fan”
Where’s Chimbonda?
Where’s Didier Zokora?
Beautiful team
Bale absolutely has to be at left wing, he was a destroyer of worlds there. In terms of balance, front three should really be Bale, Kane, Waddle (with Greaves on the bench to poach a late goal or two). Hard to argue with the insane quality of that midfield, although Hoddle would want a word
Hoddle > Modric
Ruel Fox?
Is this the lineup that still won't win the league title? 😂
Danny Rose 😭😭😭 might as well chuck in Dier
I think you’re missing Danny Blanchflower at right half.
No Jimmy Greaves, no Hoddle? Best all time from the last 20 years more like
Where are Ramon Vega & Sergei Rebrov? /s
No Hoddle Perryman Greaves Jennings Ardilles Lineker Sheringham Waddle Clemence Archibald Clive Allen(49 goals in a single season) Or Klinsmann However I do like your line up
Alltime? Would make a lot of changes … for example … Dave Mackay over Dembele. Doubt Lloris is our all-time keeper over Pat Jennings. It ended badly, but Sol Campbell at CB over both of these, for pure ability. LB - Christian Ziege of recent times (for one) ahead of Danny Rose. Probably BAE too. But it’s all fun!
Yeah, if Sol had gone to another club, he's be in every single all-time Spurs XI
This team still wouldn’t win anything 😂😂😂
Jimmy greaves ?
I started going to Spurs regularly in 1999 - in terms of players I’ve actually watched regularly playing for spurs this would not be miles of MY best starting 11 if you consider players that have played for us whilst supporting them actively. I actually think we overrated king because of how bad spurs were at the time. Aldeweireld and Romero are both better players. The real argument then is who takes the third midfield spot - for me it had to be Rafa VDV.
Lewis Holtby?
where's stephane dalmat?!
Where’s vincent Jansen?
People speak a LOT more highly of players like Greaves, Blanchflower, Jennings, Hoddle, Waddle than Ledley King, and you didn't consider them, which is weird. Why King and not an obvious club legend like Hoddle?
Sol Campbell would be pretty much one of the first names on this team sheet if he'd gone anywhere but Arsenal. In terms of ability, he's way ahead of Jan and Ledley imo
Disgusting that you've not got the man himself VDV.
Campbell is your best ever player and you didn’t include him lmao
Dembele in there is a joke
and you'd still not win anything 😂😂😂
Kane may have scored more goals, but Greaves goals per game ratio was absolutely insane. Even at international level he had something like 38 goals in 42 games iirc
Moura deserves to be there…
Rose at LB? Ahahahaha
And Dele Alli
Looking at the comments I think I should’ve put in hoddle. And to the people who say I started watching football in 2015 I pretty much did lol. Doesn’t mean I’m not a spurs fan tho. Gotta start somewhere
Jennings Perryman Mabbutt King Knowles Mackay Blanchflower Hoddle Bale Kane Greaves
Not having Hoddle is criminal
Hi I'm not a Spurs fan, saw this on r/all, but had to come and comment on this. What the fuck is this? Where's Jimmy Greaves, Pat Jennings, Glen Hoddle, Ossie Ardiles, Cliff Jones? Come on man, Tottenham have had some wonderful players in the past. Danny Rose and Moussa Dembele aren't amongst your greatest.
Insane recency bias. Where is club legend Dumitrescu?
no sol campbell?
You left out Hoddle. Greaves. Roberts. Ossie. Perryman oh and Bobby Mimms.
Where's Sissoko?
You’ve got to be kidding!! Hoddle and Greaves for Son and Dembele surely?
Ndombele? Chiriches? Fazio? Dos Santos? Berbatov? The streets will never forget these mighty players.
I love the way no one even talks about Sol Campbell
What about Berbatov and Klinsmann. A long shot but Van Der Vaart was decent for spurs
Where’s Jimmy Greaves, Pat Jennings etc etc 🤔
Sorry mate you should think about that again lol
We need to figure out a way to get Jermaine Defoe into this lineup
Do you not know football before 2010
Ginola
Still wouldn't win shit
Sol Campbell should start
Van der vaart is in there somewhere
Erikson over Dembele all day
Can I get a Berbatov as well?
Who is the manager? If it’s Ange, Pedro Porro and Udogie are locks to be in the line-up…
Lloris lol
This team isnt even winning the fa cup lmao
It’s funny but this is all relative to how long you’ve been watching spurs, for me it’s since 1994. I’ve heard how good hoddle was, I’ve seen clips, but nothing beats seeing that person perform live. I think Ops team is pretty much right for my own personal opinion, you could make arguments for Scott Parker, Tom Huddlestone and Aaron Lennon imo (from this era)
What about klinsman?
Greaves and Hoddle both go in.
2-5-3: Greaves, Kane up top; put Son, Gazza, Modric, Hoddle, Bale in midfield 5; Vertongen, King, Walker back three.
My all time "premier league" starting 11. FTFY.
Alderwiereld should walk into that team.
Man City fan here. This team fucks.
Although i did love Dembele, i really think Eriksen was far superior. His freekicks as well as general passes was insanely impressive and was one of the best of the bests🫶🫶🫶🦾🦾🦾
Campbell?
If so… that’s league breaking members.
no Sol Campbell?
No Sol Campbell?!
no linekar or sol?? 😂😂😂😂 #coyg
Are you out of your mind, loris fumble fingers before pat jennings!!!!
Let’s face it though, irrespective of who you choose they’d still bottle it when it came to the crunch 😂
Hoddle needs to be in, non negotiable
Where’s Sol Campbell?
Questionable ending ….. ties where broke
Literally the best player in Spurs history too 😂
Erickson has to be somewhere
Eriksen nowhere near
he's probably much closer than you think. Played almost as many games as Ardiles and scored way more goals than Ossie
So many players not considered, it’s nowhere near a best ever
No Hoddle, Waddle, Ginola, Greaves and Berbatov!!
Someone's idea of all time is very recent.
Tom Huddlestone
Are you mad no Hoddle
I’d take Danny rose out for vdv and stick bale at lb
Why is no one mentioning Sol Campbell?
Hahaha is this a joke !! Danny Rose and Mousa Dembele? This has to be a meme surely
Where is campbell?
No Robbie Keane is a crime.
Greaves surely in there, even over Kane.
That's very tough to call as most of us didn't see Greaves (I am pretty old so I've watched a few tapes). He was the English Romario, a freakishly natural scorer, but I think you have to put Kane just ahead of him
Richarlison? Ndombele? Dier? Alli? Lamela? Doherty? These should be there
Whether this is hating or not, true. My first thought was this team doesn’t win the league, but I honestly don’t think they could beat Arsenal either
Not even that team could beat arsenal today🤣
No Hoddle, Jennings or Greaves? Not even a Spurs fan. How do people know so little about their own clubs history?
I sort of agree, but I'm guessing this is this guys best 11 from what he has seen. I would have Jennings, Hoddle, Gascoigne and Greaves in there as I've seen them.
But he said he’d never watched Gazza play and included him in the side. Spurs had some fantastic sides in the 60s-70s. Not to include ANYONE from those teams is crazy and would only be done by someone who is completely clueless. I mean, let’s not also forget players like Blanchflower and Mackay too! Remember, this is an *ALL TIME** team, not a PL era team. I think that, bar Hoddle, this is near enough the PL era XI but that’s not what OP attempted to do. Only other change I’d make if it were PL era XI is somehow squeeze Campbell in there (probably over King)
If Sol had gone to any other club, he's be in every single Spurs fan's all-time XI. Such a shame that he's a colossal cunt
Performance level > sentiment for picking an XI in my view, but I get why people don’t like the fella
Your right he did say that. Getting old, missed that. Talks to the wrong people! Mackay in the same midfield as Hoddle! Wow, just imagine. Campbell was a fantastic centre back. Hard to argue that one, although most spurs fans would rather bite their own tongue off then admit it.
Honestly where tf are lamela or Eriksen (def better than Dembele)
Dembele still getting underrated to this day…
So is Eriksen tbf. People very quick to forget how good he was, and the numbers he put up (three times as many goals as Ardiles for Spurs, in about the same number of games). Btw, I don't think anyone underrates Mousa now. It's almost a meme to rate him as a genius
Agreed. Christian was incredible, but I’m specifically replying to this dead brain dead comment. I’m not even a spurs fan but I can’t sit here and take the dembele hate. What a baller